The Creation of Arda - Timeline of Arda #1
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- The Ainulindalë or Music of the Ainur is the foundation and creation of our beloved legendarium. I have really wanted to make this video for a long time, and I really hope you all enjoy it! Let me know what you think about it, and don't forget to leave your vote for next week's video on the Facebook poll! Thank you all, and thank you to the online artists who have created some of the visuals used in this video!
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I do believe that you are the chief lore master for lord of the rings on TH-cam. Congratulations.
Thank you, I am honoured to even be thought of like that. It means so much to me! :)
Men of the West I speak only the truth. You have the most accurate videos I can find.
I agree; your knowledge of the subject is mind-blowing. I really enjoy your videos--- thank you
@@MenoftheWest I really enjoyed reading the sirmarillion by professor Tolkien himself and the hobbit and the lord of the rings
Tom bombadil is a merry fellow,
Bright blue his jacket is and his boots are yellow,
None have ever caught him yet,
For Tom, he is the master,
His songs are stronger songs,
And his feet are faster
Eru Illuvitar was like "sing this song with me" and melkor was like "u can't tell me what to do dad" and manwe was like "bro stop" and melkor was like "YOURE NOT EVEN MY REAL BRO YOU'RE JUST MY BRO IN ILLUVITAR'S MIND" and then Illuvitar was like "ok we're done all of you go to your earth"
I LOL’d at this 🤣
And they all were like "ahh come ooon "
LOL
Genius, ain't it? 😊
Morgoth was born an edgy teenager
"The first war inside time"
I loved that line
I really enjoy the thought that a universe could come to be from a song, music is so powerful. Perhaps our own world being spoken into existence is its own kind of song.
there is serious scientific rumors that it is , that matter is vibration , music is vibration
The ultimate song of life lol
Well I myself believe that our world we live apon and the universe has been created in just that way...& is very beautiful to think about it happening in just that way...😇💙💫🏞
Our own world was brought into existence by the song "Come on Eileen"
If you study the vedic texts, the bible or the gnostic gospels, it is so.
Creation was sung/spoken into being.
Tolkien taking the Old Testament and Greek Myths into one story. Great telling, it's so nice to hear it read from the books rather than hear people speak only from the films. Love this channel!
Can you please stop asking us if we want more videos?!
OF COURSE we want more videos!!! Lol.
Love them. You do an amazing job!
There's something so profoundly beautiful about a world created through the power of music. I've always cherished Ainulindalë, it's so compellingly written in such a poetic and mystical way; it's as though you're reading a sacred text (arguably, you _are_ 😆). C'est magnifique.
Brilliant video as always my man, you never miss.
I've read The Silmarillion a hundred times and still found this video interesting. Good job.
I have always thought each "section" of the song corresponds to the ages of middle earth. The breaks are always after a huge discordant part of the song which matched the battles at the end of each age. Only the 4th age was unsung and the all of the players in first three ages left middle earth for the age of men. The final age was Iluvitar's creation alone, the age of men.
Under-rated comment. This is a lovely explanation, I would love to believe that this was Tolkien's intention.
@@Comakino sadly it is not true
Ive always had that thought as well!
I read all the books many years ago, I am 55 now, what I find astonishing is that the cast that Peter Jackson assembled, fit so perfectly with the vision of these characters, which I saw
in my minds eye, when I read the books as a teenager. We all will play a part in bringing the balance back. Surprised you didn't quote Illuvatars' response to Melkors' music.
Every time I watch the Fellowship of the Ring and I see Frodo stand up amidst the shouting and chaos, and say "I will take it, I will take the ring to Mordor" tears come to my eyes,
even writing this and thinking about, is bringing a tear. Wow can Tolkien write a story or what! Of course I had to wait quite a while to finally have the privilege to read the Silmarillion.
Magnum Opus Indeed.
It wouldnt surprise me if Jackson actually read the books and decided to bring it to life, before spending some time looking for people who properly fit the descriptions xD
Such a complex mythology! You can truly tell how much love Tolkien put into his world.
great illustrations, can't get enough of the tales and history of Middle Earth. Yes, the two trees!
This is by far my favorite story in the Lord of the Rings Universe. I am so glad that you covered it. Maybe next you can cover the different sources of light, the great lamps, the trees and the sun & moon. You could even discuss the creation of the stars and the silmarillions.
Make a video about Dagor Dagorath please I think it would very intresting
I am new to this channel but you are already my favorite youtuber
Thank you for making videos about my favorite series:Lord of the Rings
Epofin Ltd Thank you so much, it means a lot! I'm happy to entertain!
Dagor Dagorath would be amazing, but how about all clashes and battles in a mini series?
Fuck yea
Men of the West You are awesome man
Imagine a movie in modern day middle Earth. The end of times. An epic involving the Valar.
Tolkien cosmogony is amongst the Very Best Out There. I have this feeling it contains powerful hidden truths about ourselves and our existence. The man was a Genius. Great video!
Some of the Ainur are like inspired by Greek Mythology.
Manwe - Zeus (king and god of the sky)
Ulmo - Poseidon (god of the seas)
Mandos - Hades (god of the dead)
Varda - Asteria (goddess of the stars)
Yavanna - Demeter (goddess of harvest and agriculture)
Aule - Hephaestus (god of fire and forges)
Tulkas - Ares (god of war)
Irmo - Morpheus (god of dreams
Arien - Apollo (god of the sun)
Tillion - Artemis (goddess of the moon and the hunt)
Vana - Persephone (the goddess of spring)
Vaire - the Fates/Moirai
Orome - Orion (the great hunter)
Este - Asclepius (god of healing)
and so on...
Norse mythology, rather than Greek. Tulkas is a clone of Thor rather than Ares. In character, the closest he is to a Greek figure, is Heracles.
I think melkor/morgoth is lucifer because he wanted to create life too and pride
It's a pantheon of it's own, and ofc you can draw parallels to other mythologies because most of the deiteys are representation of nature
Dagor Dagorath is undoubtedly based on Ragnarök (Norse mythology), it shares a LOT of comparisons.
Although I didn't learn much from this video, I highly enjoyed it.
Really? I thought Dagor Dagorath referred to the battle of Armageddon, the last battle prophesied about in Revelation chapters 16 and 19. “Then I saw the beast and the kings of the earth and their armies gathered together to wage war against the Rider on the horse and His army.” (Revelation 19:19)
Drink everytime he says "legendarium"
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Martin Munkvik Hahahaha
Great Videos!! I Really Enjoy your Videos that Explain things that are Barely Mentioned i( or Not Mentioned art all ) in the main Books~ The Hobbit & LOTR.
I just Finished a 3 Day Hobbit Movie Marathon ☆☆ Extended Version ☆☆ & Your Videos Really Help to "Flesh Out" the books and Movies!
Thanks! 😁
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Dude, your vids are just like candy to me, everytime i see new one in my feed im rubbing my hands like Mr Burns
So glad you made this! Just in time for bed. Keep it up man. Love this so much.
Thank you so much! Have a good night!
I'm so happy I found this channel. I don't have enough free time to read through everything myself and piece the details together, so it's nice to find a channel that does that for me :)
You had totally made me picture the grandeur and cosmic level of the songs as the first time I held in my hands and begun the reading of The Silmarillion. You put so much heart on your depictions I can't do anything else but to held my eyes on the screen and start seen beyond to what you're describing... I really love your videos.
Keep the lore being spreaded!
Aaron Barrantes Thank you very much, and I am honoured to be able to help you relive that experience. I will keep trying to do that and more for you all!
I'm so glad i found your channel yesterday. It seems like me and a whole bunch of other people are finding your channel lately.
What I most appreciate is the topics that you draw from 'The Silmarillion'. I don't feel bad about admitting that it was a very difficult book to read. As soon as I finished it, i read it again and it was only that 2nd read through where things started clicking.
Keep up the VERY good work.
P.S., I'm waiting for an epic character history of Galadriel. One of my favorite literary characters of all time.
Memnoch Thank you so very much, I am glad to have you with us! From the "Silmarillion" to the 13 pages of "The New Shadow" and everything in between, I love covering Tolkien's works! And I'll add that video to my to-do list! Thanks again!
Best creation myth ever!
Im exactly the same about the Silmarillion. It was the most difficult yet best book i have ever read but going back through it you pick up more that you understand.
We can see Eru as the artist, Flame Imperishable is his magical pen and all he just do is think and paint what he thinks. All of existence is just his drawings.
Very sweet man. Really enjoying this!! Keep it going man,.
Song of sorrow: men?
Song of repetition: elves?
vitamindubya It very well could be, I like that idea!
It's hard to correlate the song to the middle earth timeline.
Some believe the songs represent major events, births, or races coming to middle earth.
Some believe the song may represent the various fighting of the gods, such as first verse is the forming of the planet surface which morgoth corrupted, second can be the coming of elves, third is the humans (rhe rough notes during all the songs may be Morgoth/sauron trying to take over the world with balrogs and orcs)
Some believe the song and events represent the fading of middle earth. There used to be many magic glades and forests in beginning ages, but everything wears down to rationalism, and into the power of humans by end of third age.
Perhaps the songs are the three ages of Middle Earth. I don't know much about the three ages, but the time of the Lord of the Rings is often referred to as the Third Age. It is that one that ends in a giant climatic finale where all evil is at the verge of overcoming the world, when suddenly good rises victorious to end the Third Age.
The first theme was for the creation of Adra and the natural world, the second theme possibly the creation of non sentient life, the third theme was the creation of the Children of Illuvatar. We are specifically told in the Silmarillion that Elves and Men were created with the third theme of Illuvatar.
The song of endless repetition was simply the manifestation of Melkor's violence, hatred and rage.
I think that Dagor Dagarth is based on the book of Revelations from the Bible. This is likely due to Tolkien being a devout catholic. I think that in the Lord of the Rings world, Dagor Dagaroth will eventually happen, but none save Iluvatar know when it will happen just like how it says in the Bible that none except God know when the end times will come.
Illuvatar represents God,
Melcor represents Satan,
Manwe represents Michael?
I do enjoy the parallels of J.R.R. Tolkien's writings to the Bible. However, because I've only seen commentary (like this) on his works and haven't read Simarillian myself, I don't fully understand the parallels.
Kenton Park I always thought that Tulkas (please forgive me if I misspelled his name) represents Michael since in the story he is the one who wrestles and captures Melkor each time, despite the fact that he will not strike the final blow. I am not sure whether to recommend the Simarillian or not; it starts out good but a little long, but it soon gets bogged down in boring stories about elves that might or might not affect the overall story. The worst part is that you are not sure what elf stories will have an important role later on.
Actually it's more comparable to Ragnarok. Tolkien also drew a lot on Norse stories.
Cegesh That is an excellent point. I never noticed the similarities until now.
Kenton Park I would definitely recommend the Silmarillion. I enjoyed it more than the Lord of the Rings, because Tolkien's strength as a writer is world-building, and his style of prose lends itself more to the epic poem format of the Silmarillion than to the more standard fantasy novel format of LotR.
Such a great upload. My partner and I are always very happy when you do a new upload. Keep it, mate.
Another fantastic video! I don't usually comment much but I would like to say it would be cool to see a theory on what if Gandalf survived in Moria and stayed on with the fellowship and how it all would play out. If you have a list of theories you will be doing in the the near future than add this one to it! :D
I really got goosebumps while you were describing the music of the Ainur just like how i got goosebumps while reading Ainulindale
What an outstanding series...thank you so much for bringing more clarity to the history of Middle Earth; something I discovered at age 14 some 45 years ago. Well done sir!
The Silmarillion is my favourite book, especially the story of the creation of Arda. Thank you for this vid and keep on telling your story and reflections upon the various topics, they are very insightful.
Had a rough week and didn't sleep well, but this video is perfect for listening to whilst writing, helps relax. You have a true gift and one of the most comforting voices Yoystan, thank you for doing these videos. Couldn't imagine writing fantasy or the past two days without your videos, you're the best.
And I for one love Dagor Daggorath because it means Melkor finally gets his comeuppance at the hands of Turin, and love the idea of a new Song of the Ainur, one that results in an utopia as seen in the Post-Ragnarok world of Norse Mythology. It is idealistic, but sometimes such idealistic ideas are funner.
The Ainulindalë is one of my favourite parts of all of Tolkien's writing. The imagery is beautiful.
On your pronunciation of Maiar, an "ai" is pronounced "eye", as in eyeball, not "ay". So it's m-EYE-ar, not m-AY-ar. Oddly you pronounce Ainur correctly even though it's spelled the same :P
AlphaZaku Thank you for letting me know, I'll improve on that in the future! Have a good one!
Men of the West Appendix E in LotR is a dedicaticated pronunciation guide, it's well worth the read.
You must love literature so much
@@AlphaZaku maiar is maiar not meiar
@@adrianciobanu5856 This post was to explain how the word sounds when spoken. You can see in my first sentance I know how the word is spelled. The second and third occurances are to show it phonetically to understand how it should and shouldn't be pronounced.
This is incredibly helpful in keeping a lot straight … the book of lost tales, unfinished tales, and the silmarillion are tough to wrap my head around. So thank you.
DUDE! Im a huge lotr nerd! Im so glad i found you. You have become my favourite youtuber right now.
Yaaass! I was waiting for this. Damn I love this channel!!
In many ways it reads like the Old Testament
#tolkienisCatholic
Very much so. Sounds familiar.
He's got a touch of Zoroastrianism in here too
@@samanthadrennan That would imply Melkor and Eru were equal in strength though, which they aren't.
Bro let's talk u played shadow of war its lit
@@theradgegadgie6352 not necessarily.
It could also imply that the good in the world is subtle and in small increments and the evil is obious, hard hitting and direct. However in the long run, the subtle force of good will win.
Men of the West, again kudos for a great work done. Make one on Dagor Dagorath when you have time on your hands for it. Keep it up friend!
lets all just think about one man's brain. that created all this. what a genius. bloody loved this video and series MOTW. always love ur work.
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From what i remember having read in the silmarillion (perhaps in an earlier version) Melkor's dissonance was never able to take over the entirety of the song like that, even when the dissonance grew and more and more maiar picked up this new dark song within the greater chorus, it apparently swayed back and forth a bit but it was never able to overcome the good part of the song, infact the dissonance was weaved into the song in such a way that it *added* to the beauty of it rather than destroy it in the end. Eru even said so to Melkor, that all his evil struggle would only lead to more beauty and wonder in the end and that he would not be able to overcome Eru's own will.
I absolutely love the way music and song is reflected all throughout the story of ME. Silmarillion have a tale of a powerful elf battling Sauron in the first age, with song alone. Gandalf used song, not to mention Tom Bombadil who could control both the living trees in his forest as well as barrow wights using nothing but the power of his song.
Mr BigCookie I believe he was able to over come the second song, but then they simply restarted when it became too much. Though it could be that there was still some of the other Ainur still singing when it ended. Thanks for letting me know! Have a good one! :)
It was a long time ago so i could very well be wrong on that point but regardless it is a very cool story. Thank you for doing these videos for me to nerd over haha, such good quality!
I really love this channel. Thank you for all of your hard work :)
Great video, I just subscribed and I love middle earth, so looking forward to the next video, and thank you for covering this.
My favorite to listen to you right now.
Totally dig your videos man.
Thanks man, happy to entertain!
I once tried to read the Silmarillion but I could make no sense of it at all. Then I saw one of your video's. Tried reading it again. Ahh. Now it makes sense. Thank you.
do you have a patreon? id love to give a few bucks!
Sebastian G. Thank you so much, that is really flattering, but as of now I don't yet have a patreon. I want to improve and continue to grow more for you all before I can even think of asking for donations. Thank you so much, truly, and I'll let you know if/when I make one! Have a great day!
@@MenoftheWest are you insane?? I discovered you today and you are one of my favorite youtubers if not my very favorite! You should get paid, man. God bless!
Sandra Simonovska Thanks Sandra, I’m glad! That means a lot! :)
This is truly a great piece of work here brother. You have an understanding of this story that is hard to find. I will watch anything and everything you make.
Super dope. Your videos are becoming very professional. Especially the audio.
What makes this channel very good is the passion you share with your knowledge of the Tolkien universe. good stuff and i really enjoy ths channel
Lovely images, and deep philosophy. Keep it up. :)
Awesome video series just keep going don’t stop! I live listening to these while I work! You do a great job explaining the lord behind Tolkien’s universe!!
Yes please!! I love your videos! Continue the series!
Been watching your some of your videos the last couple of days. Just wanted to say that I think you do great work and that I've liked what I've seen so far. Subbed.
I would love to see a video that discusses each individual Valar and maybe some of the more well-known Maier that serve them.
Loved the vid! Can u do more videos on the spirits like melkor (sorry if I misspelled)? Maybe do a video for each like ur character spotlights ?
This was an absolutely great video!!! Keep it going! Two tree's yes, that would be great
its amazing that only 2 weeks ago i remember you having 2.5K now... with 16k Well Done!
there is nothing more interesting than to learn about Dagor Dagorath BTW i'm new in tolkien's legendarium and this channal is helping me so much to dive into this magnificent world so keep up the good work and thanks ahead
Yes, PLEASE!! I love these. I actually enjoy your vids. And I make notes as I watch. then, while reading, I can go back to my notes if need be.
Your awesome my friend!!! Always have been a big lotr fan and you have inspired my wife and I to learn sindarin! Keep em coming!!!
I would like to see a Dagor Dagorath video. I believe it is possible and more likely than anything we have from the legendarium.
Great video. I have read the Silmarilion, but since it is not in my native language (the copy I have), I struggled to grasp the full history and missed some details. A synopsis video, like this one, is of great help in understanding the history, though I had to pause the video and think about the story for myself (to organize the information) at several moments.
English is my native language and even then, reading it is a challenge because there are so many names, places, and events to remember. But it is a rewarding challenge!
I just love your videos! There are some similar, but yours are the best. Beautiful pictures, all is understandable, just brilliant.
Yes, I want to hear more on bith your questions.
Great work! Thank you!
Just imagine the epic battle between all good and evil that would be so cool
its dagor dagorath
it happens in the end of world
Thank you! A suggestion for your videos since you asked, add some visuals from any LOTR video games that depict what you are talking about if possible. That'll make the videos more engaging and will also avoid the copyright strikes you would get from adding movie clips.
Great idea, I will do that in future videos! Thank you so much!
Men of the West There's a great LotR mod for Mount and Blade:Warband. It's called "last days of the third age"
Chrysippus Laughing Really!!!??? I love the sound of that! :) I'm going to check that out, thank you so much for telling me about it! Have a good one!
So Mellor was a heavy metal vocalist in a church choir?
Great stuff guys, keep up the good work.
Keep up the good work, man!
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WONDERFULLY done content!
Do one about the Dead Men of Dunharrow, easily one of the most intense parts in the book and the movie.
Love the page! Any videos that you do I enjoy. Would love to see more of this series and most definitely a video on Dagor Dagoroth.
great videos, have a sub.
they also serve as a nice introduction to Tolkien's heritage in general, hopefully bringing more people to read the books that started it all.
Just discovered and subbed to your channel a couple of weeks ago, I absolutely love your vids. This is my favorite Tolkien-centered channel, hands down, and I've learned so much about his wonderful universe through your presentations. Thank you so much for all the work you do on your content, it's excellent and I'm always stoked when you post something new.
I don't know if it would be a question that would justify an entire video (and forgive me if you've already covered it in a vid I might have missed), but I've always wondered if Gandalf had some historical beef with Durin's Bane?
After it snared him off the bridge in Khazad-dum, Gandalf survived the initial fall (though he was weakened) and he followed the Balrog for more than a week, yes? I have always wondered why he chose to go after the Balrog instead of regaining strength & searching for a way out of Moria to rejoin the Fellowship.
Did Gandalf have some kind of history with that particular Balrog which made him determined to destroy it? Was there a reason relating to the fate of the Fellowship or The One Ring? Or was Gandalf just like "No Balrog is gonna pull *me* off a bridge and get away with it, son!" ??
It's just one of those little questions that has remained in my head, but I've never quite been able to answer. If you (or any other lovely commenter) happens to know, I'd love to find out!
And again, thanks so much for the Middle-Earth education!
Yes, More like this!
O MY FUCKING ERU!
Your narration is AMAZING.
*rushes to re-read the Simarilion*
I like the smaller channels as if u get here early I can read basically all the comments
Its many many years since I first discovered Tolkiens works and read them avidly but after a while I got fed up with the numerous interpretations and commentaries, it all seemed, well, just like whats happening with JKRowlings books. A bit over the top to put it politely. However I like your videos, they have been informative, well illustrated and haven't stretched ones credulity by over doing the analysis, especially since you are careful to append quotes to show the provenance of your assertions. A very interesting body of work on your part, well done!
You are really making me hungry for reading all the books again!!
You make excellent lore vidoes. I'd like to see one on your thoughts on if the arkenstone is a Silmaril
Chris Garcia That theory has always interested me as well. I'll be sure to make a video on it! Thank you for the suggestion!
Maybe talk about Feanor next. Always enjoyed his story.
wonderful content my friend....please never stop never stopping
I didn't expect a Hungarian map in your video, but it's a nice surprise :D
I love how Tolkien weaves his own mythology and imagination into the narrative of his worldview and belief system to create a fictional universe that is relatable and insightful but different and an enjoyable journey.
Thank you, great video as always!
Hello Men, great video. I am a new subscriber. The first video I saw was the Wizards Of Middle Earth one and I was already hooked. Can you please make a video about all of the dwarves from the Hobbit and the history of each of them? Thorin could probably have his own epic history video maybe.
EmperorMAD Thank you, welcome to the community! And I would love to make those videos at some point! Have a good one!
Such a good video, yet again
Jesus your subscriber numbers have exploded
Just read about this in the Simarillion, but loved that you translated into English😂. Tolkien' sentence structure truly is something great.
Nicely told! Please do more!
*Thank you for **_keeping Imagination Alive!_*
Can you we please do a video about galadriel??? From the beginning of her time to the creation of lothlorien. To her eventually leaving middle earth
wow best video I've seen , keep up the good work 😋😋
can't wait for next week
verry good, good ediukation grate video. i love it. kontinue your good wourk it is grate funn to wath.
I once tried to compose a song based off of the Song of the Ainur, and it was terrible...
Also, you should make a video about Dagor Dagorath. Dagor Dagorath has always interested me so much, and it is so sad there is so little information on it. At the rate your channel is growing, you might get the attention of Christopher Tolkien himself and he might have information about it to share with you. You have gained 16,001 subscribers in just four weeks!
I also have another idea for a video: magic and its properties.
Lastly, please, I beg of you, read the pronunciation guide... Ainulindalë is pronounced eye-new-lean-doll-lay.
You are constantly mispronouncing things, and Ainulindalë wasn't the only mistake in the video, it was just the one that brought me to my knees.
There should be after "Of the Rings of Power and the Third Age", but if your copy doesn't have it, use this link: www.katychamberchorus.com/LOTR-Pronunciation-Guide.html
Michael Davis Thank you for watching and for your suggestions! I have been using IPA and pronunciation guides for as many words as I can, and I'll continue to do so to improve on them. I believe most to be correct, but I will still try to grow with that! Thank you, have a great day Michael!
It's funny I entered this video thinking about Dagor Dagorath and how I feel it would be a good ending and hoping you would make a video. So what you waiting for? Get to it XD. But I can't comment and not say well done on the video so well done is was great XD
I love this channel!!! ♥️♥️♥️
Hey man, I recently found your videos and I already love them and subscribed. I love everything Lord of the Rings. Is there any way you could do a video on Ungoliant?