Slight correction for the expected base power of population bomb, it is actually 180.88 expected base power. I did not account for the move having 99% accuracy on each hit in my calculation, my apologies. Thanks @anthonygutsev5301 and @lofibrazil1787 for pointing this out
@@lipika2841I like longer videos too, but only when there’s actually enough content to fill the time. If you’ve only got 7 minutes’ worth of content, make a 7 minute video. If you’re going to make a 20 minute video, you’d better have three times as much content, not the same content just repeated and stretched thin.
@@exollix5255BUT, being a signature move of nezcrozma, it has 3 abilities, ultra necrozma (usum only), prism armor, wich reduces supereffective hit dmg against you, and neuroforce, wich boosts all supereffective moves you make by 25%, note that photon geyser is still a 100 acc 100 power move, wich uses atk or spatk, wichever is the highest, add with that the fact that its max lvl100 spatk stat can be 454 and bam
Also, iirc it hits neutrally the first time, but when theyre grounded, they can be hit super efective, for example, a thundurus when hit the first time by thousand arrows will be neutral, but the second time it will be super effective
Great list! I think the fact that most of these are from the recent games and the oldest signature move is from XY, says a lot about the power creep in pokemon tbh. I know that a lot of older moves that used to be exclusive got more widespread over time, but GameFreak definitely seems more willing to make gimmick mons with broken moves nowadays.
Ivy Cudgel & Flower Trick are both so good. Behemoth Blade was ridiculously good in Sw&Sh, but will be just as oppressively OP in S&V. Also Most Ball/Luster Purge, V-Create & Dragon Ascent.
I was gonna mention fishous rend, but when I rlly think about it that move is only as busted as it is because of the mon who gets it, which happens to be dracovish who has useable speed and most importantly strong jaw, if it was given to a non strong jaw mon it likely wouldn’t be that OP
What do you think about Sacred Fire and why isn't it on the list? I would replace Hyper Drill with it since the 5% miss is negligible and a 50% burn chance is huge. It's basically way crazier than Scald and Volcanion's signature move for that high of a chance alone. Burn is also a pretty strong status since it shuts down most physical threats that aren't part fire or currently aren't due to Tera, so I think that justifies it on the list.
Whether they're relevant or not, these r the potential drawbacks of the mentioned moves that can come into play (sometimes): Spectral thief: makes contact, if the user has contrary the stolen stat boosts will turn into stat drops(?), normal is immune Population Bomb: can make contact to the target upto 10 times, relies on the Wide Lens item to be reliable so if it's knocked off then the move becomes very hit or miss (literally), ghost is immune to this Rage Fist: makes contact, normal has an immunity to it, its power doesnt go up if the user hits itself in confusion or if its Substitute is struck 1000 Arrows: if the target has an Substitute, the brilliant effect of the move doesnt apply Hyper Drill: makes contact, Ghost's immune Surging Strikes: Shell & Battle Armor are protected from its critical hits, does contact to the opponent 3 times Geomancy: Power Herb is 1-time use only so if the user is forced to switch out for whatever reason, it'll have to go for the 2 turn move to gain back its stat boosts, the item can be knocked off, uhh like any stat raising move..Contrary but how & where could it be actually applicable?
@@peshomighty5051 dang saying "no such thing as move animations" is harsh cuz there're some cool animations like Eternabeam, Dragon Darts, Pyro Ball & Surging Strikes in Gen8, Torch Song etc.
@@lipika2841 I love that in the anime Pin missile coming from guzmas Golisopod is actually missiles. So yeah the anime is ten times better. Pokemon Horizons and Pokemon generations. Also yeah I like multihit moves but I Love multiturn moves like roll out, Iceball, outrage and the fated Thrash!. th-cam.com/play/PLQWzKIaERirwv9M89dxN3bNLY0PyuChOU.html
How is it worse? No retreat is Omni boost but you can’t switch X deer just needs to use its item slot and gets doubled sp atk sp def and speed, insane And you can still switch out if needed
@@x_bell1142 because population bomb checks accuracy for each individual hit, you would calculate 10 hits without wide lens as 0.9^10 (34.9%) and 10 hits with wide lens as 0.99^10 (90.4%) , as the accuracy from each individual hit is changed from 0.9 to 0.99.
And then the very next generation with Z-moves and Geomancy they said "Prepare for trouble and make it Quadruple", also hey remember that useless signature move Hold Hands of the Event Exclusive Pattern Vivillon more of you didn't get? And it would take another three generations for the Pattern to become available again but the move itself was an event exclusive? Well you're about to really wish you had gotten that now! 😅 Everyone loves to joke about Z-moves being the worst of the Generational battle mechanics and I couldn't disagree more. And this is proof.
Slight correction for the expected base power of population bomb, it is actually 180.88 expected base power. I did not account for the move having 99% accuracy on each hit in my calculation, my apologies. Thanks @anthonygutsev5301 and @lofibrazil1787 for pointing this out
Still wrong, because maushold always has technician which means the basepower becomes around 280. A MASSIVE difference
@@vaishaligoel2321nah in vgc it ran friend guard pretty often
Still hits harder than a Stab Hyperbeam straight to the face though and hits through the Ability Sturdy.
YEET THE BABY! 😅
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I think it's actually 189.22. Doing (.99^10) * 200 doesn't work, since if you miss that last hit, you still did 90% of the damage.
It’s worth adding that Urshifu’s ability unseen fist makes Surging Strikes even better by bypassing protect
Until people started running Punching Glove to make sure it doesn't get worn down by Iron Barbs or Rocky Helmet 😂
I like that this isnt 20 minutes long lol some poketubers really know how to stretch these kinda lists out too much, this is chill and to the point
Thanks!
But I also like long form content so I don't mind potentially stretched out videos.
@@lipika2841I like longer videos too, but only when there’s actually enough content to fill the time. If you’ve only got 7 minutes’ worth of content, make a 7 minute video. If you’re going to make a 20 minute video, you’d better have three times as much content, not the same content just repeated and stretched thin.
Ceaseless Edge, Stone Axe, Lumina Crash, Torch Song and Dire Claw are all nuts.
Triple arrows>
Photon geyser, it makes necrozma a beast
@@astrowastaken_2359cant it hit dark types too?
@@exollix5255oh yea forgot bout that, still is ridiculous
@@exollix5255BUT, being a signature move of nezcrozma, it has 3 abilities, ultra necrozma (usum only), prism armor, wich reduces supereffective hit dmg against you, and neuroforce, wich boosts all supereffective moves you make by 25%, note that photon geyser is still a 100 acc 100 power move, wich uses atk or spatk, wichever is the highest, add with that the fact that its max lvl100 spatk stat can be 454 and bam
Not as flashy, but astral barrage and glacial lance deserve an honorable mention for being 120 base power no drawback spread moves
glacial lance is actually 130 BP!
@@galatcs it was nerfed this gen
Those are on the draft of the list for part 2!
My favorite move, Make it Rain, word of caution, better make sure you faint the pokemon.
I cannot believe a rap idiom has made it into Pokémon. Seriously what a time to be alive
Feel like Ceaseless Edge is worth mentioning. Not as over the top as a lot of moves here but wow its affect is unbelievably strong
It's at least better than Hyper Drill, since normal doesn't even hit for SE damage and Ghost is immune to it.
You forgot to mention that thousand arrows also knocks the flying opponent down so your partner can hit them with ground moves
True!
Also, iirc it hits neutrally the first time, but when theyre grounded, they can be hit super efective, for example, a thundurus when hit the first time by thousand arrows will be neutral, but the second time it will be super effective
Great list! I think the fact that most of these are from the recent games and the oldest signature move is from XY, says a lot about the power creep in pokemon tbh. I know that a lot of older moves that used to be exclusive got more widespread over time, but GameFreak definitely seems more willing to make gimmick mons with broken moves nowadays.
_Dire Claw NEEDS to be on there somewhere._
_Shit's insane. 💀_
4th most popular vid. Keep going man. I’m enjoying your chill vids
I'd like to see a list of the top 10 *former* signature moves, which were signature for at least one Gen before getting distributed
Judgement should be here too as an honourable mention. 120bp 100% type of your choise move +stab
Ivy Cudgel & Flower Trick are both so good. Behemoth Blade was ridiculously good in Sw&Sh, but will be just as oppressively OP in S&V. Also Most Ball/Luster Purge, V-Create & Dragon Ascent.
Forgetting Ceaseless is crazy
true, swap Triple Arrows with Ceaseless Edge and its a pretty good top 10 list
I wish that Azelf, Mespirit, and Uxie learned Tail Glow and had Terrain setting abilities
great video!
Fishious Rend, Stone Axe, Dire Claw, Revival Blessing.
Fishious rend and revival blessing aren't signature moves since more than one pokémon can learn it, but stone axe and dire claw will be in part 2!
So many of these moves were introduced in only the last 3 gens
Hoopa and Marshadow included 😎
Id really like compilation videos like "life draining moves" "fliching moves" etcetc
I mean the actual biggest drawbacks of Gigaton Hammer are that it can only be learned by Pokémon with base 75 (Tinkaton) or base 20 (Smeargle) Attack.
Great video keep it up
Here’s what Ive learned:
Gamefreak has a hard time making balanced physical ghost moves LOL
Lets see a 2nd video about signature moves.
I was gonna mention fishous rend, but when I rlly think about it that move is only as busted as it is because of the mon who gets it, which happens to be dracovish who has useable speed and most importantly strong jaw, if it was given to a non strong jaw mon it likely wouldn’t be that OP
Pecharunt malignat chain
Kinda weird that Glacial Lance and Astral Barrage didn't make it. And Aura Wheel.
Glacial lance and astral barrage will be in part 2!
What do you think about Sacred Fire and why isn't it on the list? I would replace Hyper Drill with it since the 5% miss is negligible and a 50% burn chance is huge. It's basically way crazier than Scald and Volcanion's signature move for that high of a chance alone.
Burn is also a pretty strong status since it shuts down most physical threats that aren't part fire or currently aren't due to Tera, so I think that justifies it on the list.
Sacred fire is good, but not technically a signature move since both Ho-Oh and Entei can learn it
The powercreep is crazy
I’d like to throw in Dire Claw as an honorable mention.
Whether they're relevant or not, these r the potential drawbacks of the mentioned moves that can come into play (sometimes):
Spectral thief: makes contact, if the user has contrary the stolen stat boosts will turn into stat drops(?), normal is immune
Population Bomb: can make contact to the target upto 10 times, relies on the Wide Lens item to be reliable so if it's knocked off then the move becomes very hit or miss (literally), ghost is immune to this
Rage Fist: makes contact, normal has an immunity to it, its power doesnt go up if the user hits itself in confusion or if its Substitute is struck
1000 Arrows: if the target has an Substitute, the brilliant effect of the move doesnt apply
Hyper Drill: makes contact, Ghost's immune
Surging Strikes: Shell & Battle Armor are protected from its critical hits, does contact to the opponent 3 times
Geomancy: Power Herb is 1-time use only so if the user is forced to switch out for whatever reason, it'll have to go for the 2 turn move to gain back its stat boosts, the item can be knocked off, uhh like any stat raising move..Contrary but how & where could it be actually applicable?
i never understood why geomancy is a thing. you can use two quiver dances and u get the same boosts.
With power herb Geomancy becomes a one turn move. No draw backs.
Population Bomb is also boosted by Maushold's Technician btw. So a 10 hit Population Bomb would have 300 power.
Extreme eevoboost, though it's a signature z-move, but it's so absurd it got EEVEE banned from ubers
True
They need to go ahead & give "thousand arrowz" to Decidueye
Maybe but the animation of it shows Zygarde shooting a bunch of green cells at the target.
Now in Pokemon games there's no such thing as "move animations". So just give signature moves to weaker Pokemon to make them at least viable.
@@peshomighty5051 dang saying "no such thing as move animations" is harsh cuz there're some cool animations like Eternabeam, Dragon Darts, Pyro Ball & Surging Strikes in Gen8, Torch Song etc.
@@lipika2841 I love that in the anime Pin missile coming from guzmas Golisopod is actually missiles. So yeah the anime is ten times better. Pokemon Horizons and Pokemon generations.
Also yeah I like multihit moves but I Love multiturn moves like roll out, Iceball, outrage and the fated Thrash!.
th-cam.com/play/PLQWzKIaERirwv9M89dxN3bNLY0PyuChOU.html
Smeargle: 😶🌫️
Gigaton Hammer's drawback:
Tinkaton
Boomburst is not signature, but it has so little wielders - and ist most certainly one of the most outrageous moves that exist.
Surprised Mighty cleave doesn't make it, i mean, its a physical rock move with 95 base power and 100 accuracy, need i say more?
I started making this video before the DLC came out, so that move will definitely be on part 2!
Music in the video?
This is the GTS theme from pokemon x and y
Blood Moon
the number 1 signature is obviously sketch
How about glacial lance and astral barrage?
Those are good too!
bro forgot all of the partner moves
Oopsie
Where is flower trick? Flower trick is busted
Can you really say that Geomancy is one of the best signature moves if it's for all intents and purposes a worse No Retreat?
How is it worse? No retreat is Omni boost but you can’t switch
X deer just needs to use its item slot and gets doubled sp atk sp def and speed, insane
And you can still switch out if needed
Nice video, but your maths for the population bomb wide lens calculation chances is wrong
How so?
@@x_bell1142 because population bomb checks accuracy for each individual hit, you would calculate 10 hits without wide lens as 0.9^10 (34.9%) and 10 hits with wide lens as 0.99^10 (90.4%) , as the accuracy from each individual hit is changed from 0.9 to 0.99.
That is correct, my mistake. I was only checking accuracy once in my calculation. The correct expected power should be 180.88 @@lofibrazil1787
And then the very next generation with Z-moves and Geomancy they said "Prepare for trouble and make it Quadruple", also hey remember that useless signature move Hold Hands of the Event Exclusive Pattern Vivillon more of you didn't get? And it would take another three generations for the Pattern to become available again but the move itself was an event exclusive? Well you're about to really wish you had gotten that now! 😅
Everyone loves to joke about Z-moves being the worst of the Generational battle mechanics and I couldn't disagree more. And this is proof.
Where is V-create🥲