@@TheAxtonman The fremen spread out in fanatical legions after the events of Dune as Paul had seen in his visions and they kill and take over in his name, leading to the deaths of 61 billion people.
@@TheAxtonman The next two books should be read to appreciate the flow of the story, but TL;DR it's detailed in Dune Messiah (especially) and Children of Dune that the Fremen legions from Arrakis and the Fremen Fedaykin death troops spread out to bring Paul's jihad to the rest of the populated planets in the Imperium, a war that kills ~61 billion people. This movie diverges dramatically from what actually happens in the next two books because "peace" and "love" were not what Paul was after, and he falls into despair over what he caused and became. Paul is a messiah for about 5 minutes before everything goes to shit with his name on it. Oh, he does not cause the rain either. Precipiation eventually happens on Arrakis but it's not because he's a literal god.
@@ericjay71 Jesus was not responsible for the human-lead atrocities that were committed in his name long after he was unjustly executed. He taught his followers to "love your enemies". To this day people twist teachings to their own whim. "When pointing the finger of blame, point in the mirror." Edit: This was in reply to an inaccurate comment that evidently has been removed by the poster.
Very intriguing alternative ending. The death of Thurfir Hawat together with Paul's marriage proposal to Princess Irulan actually enhanced my appreciation of the film. Well done.
I felt so bad for Hawat in the book. He kept misjudging people, letting people down, then being manipulated by the baron. This last moment with him is the saddest part of the book to me.
same and i loved how paul was fully willing to sacrifice himself to let Thuffir live. Dune doesnt have a lot of emotion but I always got the feeling that Leto's men really did love paul and vice versa. The bit where gurney runs into jessica late in the book is amazing too
I love this movie so much, the costumes, the atmosphere, the music, the prophetic story, the locations and artworks. This movie is so much better then people give it credit for.
Despite it’s box office failure, I’ve always thought the film a victim of the science fiction purist critics, I still regard as good, but somewhat abridged. However, the many alternative scenes illustrate how much better it could have been .
I do not think the book purists caused the film to fail, average movie goers did not get a more intellectual film like this in its era just over their head most wanted dumbed down entertainment, plus Hollywood execs forced massive cuts to the film which really hurt its story and the marketing was terrible compared to other high dollar films, so it was a combo.
@@deanfirnatine7814 I always find it strange that the film became a cult classic after home release. Perhaps because the viewers had more time to study it & appreciate the nuances. Hopefully the soon to be released latest version becomes the success story Dune deserves. If it does perhaps then sequels will be made, st long last.
It was a victim of regular critics more than science fiction purists. Also people who weren't into science fiction wanted nothing to do with this movie. It's not nearly as accessible as something like Star Wars.
A book can handle the complex themes and political intrigue of Dune. The huge majority of Sci-Fi movie fans want a two hour escape with an easy to follow plot line and lotsa Zoom-Zoom-Zap-Zap.
@@deanfirnatine7814 ... That's true, it was originally planned to either be a trilogy or 2 parts. I'm certain of the 2 parts though, which was discussed when Ridley Scott was the hired director in the late 1970's during early screen writing, a few years before Lynch. Today, the Villeneuve version gives redemption to that 2-parter concept to help flesh out the novel twice as long as the Lynch version. However, I might have preferred a trilogy, but space them out 1 year apart instead of the normal 2 years. Having read the novel in 1983, there is just so much detail to get through, but I do "get it" that a normal viewing audience would probably get bored with the religion & politics in the story as well. It would take a really good script & director to keep the audience watching without confusion or yawning.
3:45 I always loved that part of the scene where Paul, with 1 word, sets the most powerful Bene Gesserit back on her heels and leaves no doubt her power is a shadow to his.
In the space of 20 seconds they establish who has the most power in the universe - the Emperor is most powerful in name but is still subservient to the Spacing Guild and Bene Gesserit, yet Paul's powers now exceed the Bene Gesserit and he controls the spice, he has everyone by the balls
DUNE is a terribly underappreciated film. People ALWAYS complain that movies NEVER live up to the novel but it's ALWAYS the case so deal with it! At the time the movie was made, the effects were state of the art. The actors were top notch or soon to be famous. I ALWAYS watch it when it pops up on cable.
There was only problem with Dune; it was too long; I recorded it and and converted it to a miniseries. I appreciate it more by watching one half tonight, then the second half tomorrow.
Yes!!! Simon Vance also narrated "Time of the Wolf" by James Wilde (A probable inspiration of the Robin Hood legends) and is a fantastic narrator. I loved his work from the previous book and was very excited to recognize his voice here!
While technically being a deleted scene it infuriates me that this is right now a better adaption of the arc of Thufir Hawat than the new version. There is NO excuse. There honestly should not exist a single thing that the David Lynch version does better than the DV version and yet here we are. Both Dr Yueh and Hawat were handled much better. Damn
The new movie does have allot of issues with some of them dealing with the characters. I also don't like the fact that the spice guild was not hardly seen at all. They also missed allot of other stuff from the book that should have been in the movie. I hear the original unedited version was almost 20 hours. He cut allot out that he filmed. He still got stuff wrong but it is what it is.
Sting's hair was done PERFECTLY in this movie. Like something straight out of anime. Very authentic. I can't wait for the remake. And that says a LOT because I am sick of remakes.
Robert Busek that role hasn’t been cast, or at least has not been announced if he’s in this film. There is talk that while the Emperor and Princess Irulan will not be physically in the first part, that neither will Feyd.
@@phantomtheorist3388 -- Thanks for the update! Not having Feyd early on is a very strange choice, given that the Atreides-Harkonnen feud figures so heavily in the novel. Is it confirmed that the movie will come in two parts? If so, is there any news on where they will split the novel?
Robert Busek yes there has been lots of news on this. The Beast is gonna be featured in this first film and so is the Baron, so that rivalry will still be super prominent. The CEO of the company producing this and a few other people as well, have said its official they will be doing a part two, and since the very beginning Denis has said he plans to make this in two parts to actually do the story justice. They said there is a clear place where you would end the first film, and many believe it to be somewhere from Jessica and Paul ending up in the desert after the attack, and Paul’s fight with Jamis.
I saw Sir Stuart at a Convention. Love him as an actor but he destroyed my belief in him when he panned his roll in this movie. Or at least he stated that “Gods, what a monster!” was the worst line he ever uttered. Personally, I think I would utter something similar if I unexpectedly came face to face with a 500 metre beast.
@@moffch4319 ... Well you have to remember that Patrick was a last-minute replacement for Aldo Ray, the actor originally cast as Gurney, but Aldo had some health issues (alcoholic) at the time that crept up during the shoot, so he got dismissed/fired. Because of that short a time, Patrick probably did not have enough time to get an emotional attachment to this Dune project, nor that he probably never read the novel.
@@robwebnoid5763 Don’t get me wrong. I love him as an actor. He has the formal training and experience to handle anything he puts his mind to. Of course, my taste is not in line with the vast majority. Otherwise De Laurentiis’s Dune would have been the top box office grossing movie of the year.
@@moffch4319 ... Well the other thing too is Lynch thought he was getting another actor named Patrick Stewart, not this Brit. There was probably no more time to cast another actor as they had to keep production schedule going. Aldo Ray did "look" the part of Gurney, wise, stocky & surly. Perhaps thats why they got Josh Brolin to play the part, because he looks like a mean SOB since Gurney is a military/combat leader. The problem with Dune 1984 is Universal Studios cut it down to 2 hours. Not good for a 400-page novel. It was originally planned as either trilogy or 2 parts (2 parts I'm certain), back when Ridley Scott was hired in the late 1970's during early screen writing. After the cut, it was honed down to 3 hours, then again finally to 2. This really disappointed Lynch & he had to cut a lot out of the script & hence it just turned into a mess for him. He disowned the movie in later years after all the flack he & the movie took. Today, the Villeneuve version gets to redeem that 2-part concept, which is really more reasonable for a long book, although maybe a trilogy may have been more respectful to the length of the story.
The original (this ending based off that film) is such an iconic movie. The new Dune (or first part of the set/trilogy) moved along at a good pace, can't wait for the follow-up(s). You did a good job on your edit.
I've heard that sean young is an uber crazed loon. And that's saying something in Hollywood. I think they could have done better. Virginia though. A classic beauty.
@@KRISHNAWARRIOR For 57, Virginia still looks good. She and her brother, Michael (look up his recent pictures for a shock), smoked, which we all know, along with sun exposure, ages the skin faster than normal. Regardless, age catches up to us all. Youth and beauty are fleeting, and to face its loss with dignity takes great courage.
I didn't even know this was out there! Thank you for putting it up! I have been a huge fan of this movie from the first time I saw it when it first came out!! I always try to watch it at least once every couple of months, so this was a real treat! Thank you very much!!
It's a pity that the only on-screen portrayal of Thufir's death that comes close to the novel is in a deleted scene from 40 years ago. Neither the TV miniseries nor the Villeneuve movies were apparently interested in Thufir, like at all.
Dune is masterpiece. Chani, Lady Jessica, Tufir Hawat... so loyal to Paul Atreides. Such a passion and determination in their blue eyes ( the spice)!❤️
Yeah, both in Dune and in real life... it seems the human solution to "bringing peace" is to cause more loss of life than existed before, all in the name of "right". It's amazing how many people are so certain they're "right"... and are willing to kill for it. Every time I read Dune or see one of the movies, that point stands out above everything else. Are Paul and Leto the heroes... or are they worse than their predecessors? Although Dune is science fiction, it very accurately portrays the atmosphere of real life: several "houses" all controlling the lives of their citizens... or else.
i read the books and saw the movie when it came out at the theaters. by reading the books first i was able to follow the movie. i loved it. I had all the books in the series and i lost them when my apartment burnt down years ago. wow the things you remember that you had but didn't miss them until a moment like this.
i work as an extra in this movie back in 1983 here in Mexico City, Dino de Laurentis have 2 movies at the same time DUNE and Conan the Barbarian with Arnold Slazenger
The best movie I have seen. It's so Avant guard! Ahead of its time. Great concept of all time history. Thank you, all endings have a message. Good job!
I Watch and Read and Watch and Read all the Commentaries and Analyses and History and I STILL SAY, 1 of the Greatest Movies Ever! AND I Stiil.Say THANKS for this clip.Sam !!!
Excellent ending! Haven't seen the film in years, and this just popped up by youtube automatically after I watched something else, and I didn't look at your explanation before I watched it. After it was over I thought, wait a minute, this IS the ending. Why is it called "alternative" ending? This is just what I remembered, I thought. Then I read your explanation. Good work Sam!
Love the extended version. This was great. I always felt bad for Irulan in this scene. I think it was actually something the sci-fi series pulled off a bit more effectively.
Saw it when i was 14 and it is one of the few movies that sucked me into it like a black hole. It is like Starwars just more sincere. No bullshit kick as mentality or stupid jokes. True fear and adventure with a dark soundtrack...
“A beginning is a very delicate time. Know then, that is is the year 10191. The known universe is ruled by the Padishah Emperor Shaddam the Fourth, my father. In this time, the most precious substance in the universe is the spice Melange. The spice extends life. The spice expands consciousness. The spice is vital to space travel. The Spacing Guild and its navigators, who the spice has mutated over 4000 years, use the orange spice gas, which gives them the ability to fold space. That is, travel to any part of the universe without moving. Because the Guild controls all interplanetary travel, they are the highest power in the Universe. The Spice also plays a very secret role in the Bene Gesserit sisterhood, of which I am a part. The sisterhood has been interfering with the marriages, and the children thereof, of the great Houses of the Universe, cleverly intermixing one bloodline with another to form the Kwisatz Haderach, a super being. They plan to control this super being and use his powers for their own selfish purposes. The breeding plan has been carried out in a strict manner for 90 generations. The goal of the super being is in sight. But now, so close to the prize, a Bene Gesserit woman, Jessica, the bound concubine of Duke Leto Atreides, who has been ordered to bear only daughters, has given birth to a son. Oh, yes. I forgot to tell you. The spice exists on only one planet in the entire universe. A desolate, dry planet with vast deserts. Hidden away within the rocks of these deserts are a people known as the Fremen, who have long held a prophecy that a man would come, a messiah, who would lead them to true freedom. The planet is Arrakis, also known as Dune.”
I don't know why there was so much hate for this movie? There have been remakes (sci-fi channel) but none really measured up to this version. Frank Herbert gave us a dark, brooding vision of the universe whose denizens had endured endless wars, religious fanaticism, and technological stagnation due to the dangers of AI. I wished they could make better renditions of Herbert's books like Heretics of Dune and Children of Dune. But this version I have on Laserdisc and it's my favorite, no CGI and tasteful special effects.
@@kelleysmith6146 Well the info dump up top at the beginning of the movie may have been an indicator. But I agree it was a pretty good adaptation, and it influenced a bunch of computer games while practically inventing the RTS genre.
@@C716 only because the movie studio railroaded him every step of the way. Maybe Dennis Villanueve will have more autonomy in his version that comes out next year
The TV version was a two-part, total of 186 minutes. David Lynch had his name removed from it, as he only made the 137 minutes theatrical cut. It was released on DVD as "Dune: Extended Edition".
I loved this movie, the script, the actors/actresses, the costumes, and the special effects. The person who created the full-sized worms that were ridden on is reported to have cried when he saw what they looked like in the last battle scene. I haven't watched the remake and I am not sure I want to.
Dune is such a complicated series to comprehend...this was a very great adaptation of trying to bring it to the screen...if it were to follow the book exactly...it would be several hrs longer and it would be extremely hard to follow...this movie was one of the best Sci-Fy movies ever made
Watched a 'the making of Dune' documentary, it really makes you appricaite the film a lot more when you learn what all they did to make it look more authentic (for that era).
The music score, costumes and general tone of this movie where amazing at the time. Very under appreciated movie cause it didn't follow the books accurately. I remember seeing this in the theaters, not expecting much. I was high on weed that day, and that whole intro with the princess and that beautiful synth score in the background, explaining the qualities of the mind expanding spice and its political effects on the universe blew my mind.
Thurfir Hawat was like an uncle to Paul Atreides (aka Maudib), so his death is especially painful to watch. He was a mentor and friend to Paul, and a very loyal subject to Duke Leto and the Lady Jessica. KNOW A MENTAT BY HIS RED STAINED LIPS.
Thufir served the Atreides for three generations Paulus, The Old Duke Leto, The Just And of course, Paul himself The only time he felt he ever failed them, was the time Paulus was killed in the Bullring the time he was gored to death by a Salusan bull!
I always wanted to take all the different versions and recut them into a complete full version. Yeah I watch Dune many times in my youth, I always thought it was a great sci-fi.
Much better than the other endings I saw. I always wondered by Irulan was even in the movie! She had a bit part where she was wandering through a room at the beginning, and her father said she had to leave. The last time was a glimpse of her at the ending.
if you know anything about military history, it's not uncommon. I think there was something in the books about fremen drummers? But it's been decades, I could be wrong.
All the Special Editions I have, and NONE of these outtakes....thank you for sharing, as I will look out for a release on DVD.. Meanwhile, New Dune ahead!
Herbert worked on this movie. This is the vision from the original author. It was inspired by great castle, spanning many years. People put it down, but if you really like dune. This is the one, approved by all involved. To great extent. He was the mouse. He was army. He was a locust. Actors put their hearts into it. Sting would not have attached is it truly was 'bad castle'. Because out how great and inspiring the true story really is. Frank Herbert is legend. Even Vader would agree that this story is supreme. This movie is vision.
I love dune the book so much, and I enjoy the movie but believe you need to know the book first for it to make any sense- just too complex to be made into one film imho.
I'm afraid my wife's training in the "voice" equals or exceeds mine. There are times one does need to "obey" commands after a 30 year career as physician in an inner city emergency room.
Nope. Zimmer is phenomenally overrated. He doesn't compose score so much as background noise like a fan or roaring. I can vividly remember the melodies from the 1984 film but cannot remember one from the 2021 and I have watched it three times.
hard to believe that in 2021 i'm still seeing footage from Lynch's "Dune" that i've never seen before! Please oh please can some wrest this whole project away from Dino D, and make the longest version (okay, i know it was already too long for some folks!), and include all the updated effects (visual and sound) created by some masterful creators (and Dune fans) whose work can be seen on youtube. Rafaella Delaurentis! You're clearly the only one who could pull such a project together...please consider!
to the man who pointed out the sound effects for the floor breaking is the sound of a bowling ball hitting the pins.... i can now never unhear the sound of the pins WHY
I just saw the Lynch version, and to be honest, I didn't hate it. There were many things I liked about Lynch's version, even though the studio forced him to cut the movie from over 4 hours to 2 hours and messed up the story line. The characters, the costumes, the art, the sludgy, perverted atmosphere... there were so many great things about it. If it had been made and edited the way Lynch wanted it to be made, it would have been a much better movie...
I think part of the problem is Dune book fans expected it to be a close film telling of the novel but when it wasn't they hated it. Then the casual audience was lost on a lot of the concepts I don't think it's a bad film at all not great but not bad and the deleted scenes added more to the film I do think the modern film is telling the story better due to it been in 2 parts
Herbert's Dune was one of those monumental epics that have always proven so difficult to bring to the screen. At the time this version was filmed and with the technology of the day this was a well made film, an excellent cast of actors and despite some odd changed to the plot still rather faithful to Herbert. That said it had it's flaws but still considering the vast size of the time frame involved and the vast scope of space, worlds and characters in the original story enough of Herbert's ideas are still here to make an impressive film, far better than many have claimed. After so many years it is still worth watching. I have not seen the new remake but just from the short clips I've seen there is one point that glares at me, an issue I have with far too many films these days. The lead actor chosen to play Paul is another in a long line of whimpy, skinny, pretty boy types who just does not have the presence or physical stature to portray a character such as Paul Atreides. Kyle McLachlan was of the same type and one of the thing I hated about the older film. Even though with time he became a much better actor it's too late now to fix. I don't want the lead to look like Stallone or Arnold but to at least have a bit more manliness about him since there is a lot of action in the story. The original plot moves forward in time some years to where Paul is a more mature man and starting with a scrawny pretty boy all you are ever going to have is a scrawny pretty boy. When Paul becomes the master of the known universe he needs to have the stature and bearing of a real man who can impress and awe just by his mere appearance. There is an agenda be among many modern film makers to downplay the manliness of their leads till they all look like those skinny drug addict eurotrash models in all the perfume ads. If they could get away with recasting Paul as a female I'm sure they would. Now I have nothing against strong female leads, I would watch anything with Lucy Lawless, but I would prefer they come up with original characters instead of changing their gender in a bit to apeal to the sjw in the crowd. Not to open a different can of worms but the same goes for changing the race of a character such as with Marvel's Nick Fury. I'm older, I grew up reading the adventures of Sgt Fury and his howling commandos, and later Col Fury of Shield. He is an iconic character and despite the fact that I love Samuel Jacksons work and he has done a great job in the new movies I would have preferred if he was just a new character, Major so and so or General whoever Furys boss and leave Nick Fury alone. The same with Captain Marvel. He was a brave kree warrior and deserved to be respected and kept as he was. Carol Danvers could have been given her powers and a new name but leave Mar-vell alone. But like I said I'm older and I guess I'm on the losing side now. There is nothing wrong with females or actors of color being major characters just leave the originals alone and use a little imagination to come up with something new
I thought Paul wasn't skinny ENOUGH. Nor any of the Fremen. They were living on survival rations and barely enough water to hold onto life. NTL, I agree with your general rant.
Sadly, no DVD is sold with the deleted scenes, which actually flesh out the movie to even better fit the book. We need an updated Dune movie with this quality of acting.
I always felt that this adaptation had a great visual look, and was cast well. But the SyFy channell three part miniseries has the proper themes and script. I always dreamed that someday someone should marry the two in a final adaptation, and it is here in 2020. But I will always look at my copy of the David Lynch version with favor for taste and aesthetic, because it's just a beautiful movie to look at.
After seeing the trailers of the new Dune movie, I believe that it will only fall halfway between the two. I wish someone would marry the two strengths, but I doubt anyone ever will.
I always wondered why the princess, who played almost no role in the theatrical release, was the narrator. With this ending, where she is going to be his wife, it now makes some sense that she would tell the story.
I owned the DVD of Dune 1 which had both versions of the movie. The Alternate version on the one side and the main theatrical release on the other side. After watching both versions, I found myself preferring the Alternate Dune as the better of the two 😮 because it was more believable than the mainstream version. Darker and more sinister but much more meatier but it's a case of the Exterminator clearing out the vermin and claiming his throne at the same time 😊. A strong movie indeed
The new one has scale, no one is questioning that. Lynch's film had scale too. But more importantly it has what any space opera should have that the new version dearly lacks: Grandeur.
@Tahkaullus01. Don't forget that Lynch compressed entire story in single movie while modern one was just a prolog for it... so don't judge "book" by its cover... because we don't know what they have in the store for the next two movies. 😉
The original movie gave out small book that contained glossaries and the names of the characters written in it for the moviegoers. I was one of them! But alas, I lost mine! I would give a great deal for one of them; even for a glance and copy! I give the poster 10 STARS for putting this up here! I hope that you're not snagged by TH-cam for playing copyrighted material, because this is definitely worth money. It's only available in certain circumstances.
Seeing the new Dune just made me want to watch this. The 2021 version was the most vacant cinematic experience I've ever had, and was depressing if this is the way movies are going. At least Lynch gave atmos and Toto gave a great score
@@Miafunfactory No something was missing, movies is a subjective experience so don't tell other people to like something that you found satisfying. Everyone won't feel the same as you. I also prefer the old version though the new dune isn't bad, it just lacks something that this dune although not perfect captured 4 me.
@@yavaulie2839 Yeah, it certainly has more life in it. There's no good just throwing talent at a picture; it has to stick, and it just didn't with the new one (I also acknowledge that I have an unhealthy hatred of Hans Zimmer, but I really require music in my music, and he's a glorified audio fx guy).
@@yavaulie2839For me, my problems with lynches movie is that I think the cast in 2021s dune absolutely desemates the older actors, particularly Timothee, furgeson, Skarsgard, and Issac. They are all on point. This new version also gave more justice to the heart of the source material than lynches and also things that were out of reach at the time like the depiction of the sandworms, the sets , the whole universe of dune, everything just feels so alive and real. Another thing is, I don't find the new film dull or having a "lack of spirit", it just has a different atmosphere from the original movie which is fine, and I much prefer Denis take than lynches in my opinion.
Yeah, I've loved this for over 30 years, but never could get into the books, so it was weird when I found out a few months ago that she was the Baron's secret lovechild...
I didn’t remember that. I DO remember that Jessica went against the order when she had a boy instead of a girl. The girl would have married Feyad and THEIR son would have been the Kwisatz Haderak. That was why Paul was tested with the Gom Jabber - to make sure he wasn’t “a monster”.
It was revealed she is the second offspring the Baron. Her mother Mohiam blackmailed the Homosexual Baron into a sexual encounter which produce a somewhat ugly girl. Then the Baron raped Mohiam and that union produced Jessica
@@NealCEdwards me too. I could never get into reading Rings books, either when I tried. Or, the movies. Dune '84 IS one of the Great Classics of all time! "The Riii-ghteous?!"
"It's gonna take a lot to take me away from you There's nothing that a hundred Fremen or more could ever do I bless the rains down in Arakis Gonna take some time to do the things we never had"
@@mariakelly5 Actually, Toto did do the soundtrack. They did the instrumentals. I had the tape soundtrack back in the day. th-cam.com/video/NMnM1Qww2xs/w-d-xo.html
I saw a special screening of this in Seattle with Frank Herbert prior to the theatrical release. I believe this was David Lynch's first color film. Eraserhead and The Elephant Man were the depth of his catalogue at the time. It was filled with his trademark low frequency and irritating sounds to unsettle the viewer subconsciously.
I saw it. It was awesome. Trying to condense this book into a movie would have been a real challenge. I think Lynch did a decent job. I've read the book and IMHO I think it's pretty cool!
Atmospheric describes this movie. Despite a good plot, it is more a feeling than logic. I like the other ending better except the additional Benefits Gesserit quote. That was a worthy epithet.
Love this movie. I watch it as often as time permits. This is the first time I’ve seen this. Think they should’ve combined this engine and the ending that was used. Remember, “Never a drop of rain in Arakis.” The whole point was to see it rain. Really well done.
Patrick Stewart hasn't aged since Excalibur. It must be the Spice!
Yes, that's why the spice must flow
The old spice maybe.
the spice mixed in with earl grey xD
The spice expands consciousness. The spice is life.
lol so true
Fun fact, in the books Paul always has his drummers on standby just in case a knife fight breaks out.
WHOA
Never leaves home without them.
Before he acquired his drummers, he used to beatbox to signify an imminent beatdown.
🤣🤣🤣
lies
Sting looks like he’s having the time of his life in this part.
@Mona Vanderwaal why wasn't he drinking tea???
…in the Sahara..? Apropos..
he had the best underwear ever filmed.
Like dang, I would too.
I love how this movie makes it sound like Paul will bring peace, but in the books he’s responsible for Jihad that kills billions.
Like Muhammad.
can you explain?
@@TheAxtonman The fremen spread out in fanatical legions after the events of Dune as Paul had seen in his visions and they kill and take over in his name, leading to the deaths of 61 billion people.
@@TheAxtonman The next two books should be read to appreciate the flow of the story, but TL;DR it's detailed in Dune Messiah (especially) and Children of Dune that the Fremen legions from Arrakis and the Fremen Fedaykin death troops spread out to bring Paul's jihad to the rest of the populated planets in the Imperium, a war that kills ~61 billion people. This movie diverges dramatically from what actually happens in the next two books because "peace" and "love" were not what Paul was after, and he falls into despair over what he caused and became. Paul is a messiah for about 5 minutes before everything goes to shit with his name on it.
Oh, he does not cause the rain either. Precipiation eventually happens on Arrakis but it's not because he's a literal god.
@@ericjay71 Jesus was not responsible for the human-lead atrocities that were committed in his name long after he was unjustly executed. He taught his followers to "love your enemies". To this day people twist teachings to their own whim. "When pointing the finger of blame, point in the mirror."
Edit: This was in reply to an inaccurate comment that evidently has been removed by the poster.
"I can kill with a word...but for this Harkkonen, I'll use a blade instead."
after seeing this scene u know why. the sweetness of revenge !
.."And then smash his desecrated corpse with a word.."
“I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear."
Very intriguing alternative ending. The death of Thurfir Hawat together with Paul's marriage proposal to Princess Irulan actually enhanced my appreciation of the film. Well done.
I wouldn't exactly call it a proposal. That would imply there was the possibility of her refusing.
This one fits the book alittle more.
He proposed, to the Emperor, the he marry his daughter to Paul or the Emperor can die.
He wasn't exactly asking her for her hand.
Gee, who could turn down such a romantic proposal. :)
This was the ending they should have used, because that last line is how the book ended
I felt so bad for Hawat in the book. He kept misjudging people, letting people down, then being manipulated by the baron. This last moment with him is the saddest part of the book to me.
same and i loved how paul was fully willing to sacrifice himself to let Thuffir live. Dune doesnt have a lot of emotion but I always got the feeling that Leto's men really did love paul and vice versa. The bit where gurney runs into jessica late in the book is amazing too
I love this movie so much, the costumes, the atmosphere, the music, the prophetic story, the locations and artworks. This movie is so much better then people give it credit for.
This version would have been one of greatetst films ever made, if it had ever got made : th-cam.com/video/m0cJNR8HEw0/w-d-xo.html
The books were much better but the movie is passable.
I love everything in that movie for the first day. It's a "chef d'oeuvre" as we say in french.Thanks to u Sam.
It was bettervthen the goddess awful Sci Fi channel version
@@bigtutubi6731 you are an ass a very little ass
I don’t care what anyone thinks or says Dune is a masterpiece of cinema.
I agree. Even though the tech was not there, the acting was there.
truth!
@@0xeb- The acting was there! A consistent adaptation of source material that would make any sense, on the other hand, was not.
@@zefciu correct. I read because it is hard to condense the book into two hours. They had to cut corners.
ZebsFrend We’re talking about this movie, not the books and not movie adaptation of books in general. This movie was a masterpiece of cinema.
Despite it’s box office failure, I’ve always thought the film a victim of the science fiction purist critics, I still regard as good, but somewhat abridged. However, the many alternative scenes illustrate how much better it could have been .
I do not think the book purists caused the film to fail, average movie goers did not get a more intellectual film like this in its era just over their head most wanted dumbed down entertainment, plus Hollywood execs forced massive cuts to the film which really hurt its story and the marketing was terrible compared to other high dollar films, so it was a combo.
@@deanfirnatine7814 I always find it strange that the film became a cult classic after home release. Perhaps because the viewers had more time to study it & appreciate the nuances. Hopefully the soon to be released latest version becomes the success story Dune deserves. If it does perhaps then sequels will be made, st long last.
It was a victim of regular critics more than science fiction purists. Also people who weren't into science fiction wanted nothing to do with this movie. It's not nearly as accessible as something like Star Wars.
A book can handle the complex themes and political intrigue of Dune. The huge majority of Sci-Fi movie fans want a two hour escape with an easy to follow plot line and lotsa Zoom-Zoom-Zap-Zap.
@@deanfirnatine7814 ... That's true, it was originally planned to either be a trilogy or 2 parts. I'm certain of the 2 parts though, which was discussed when Ridley Scott was the hired director in the late 1970's during early screen writing, a few years before Lynch. Today, the Villeneuve version gives redemption to that 2-parter concept to help flesh out the novel twice as long as the Lynch version. However, I might have preferred a trilogy, but space them out 1 year apart instead of the normal 2 years. Having read the novel in 1983, there is just so much detail to get through, but I do "get it" that a normal viewing audience would probably get bored with the religion & politics in the story as well. It would take a really good script & director to keep the audience watching without confusion or yawning.
The way he says "Muad'dib" with pleasant surprise still cracks me up now as an adult.
Indeed.
3:45 I always loved that part of the scene where Paul, with 1 word, sets the most powerful Bene Gesserit back on her heels and leaves no doubt her power is a shadow to his.
"SILENCE!!!" *Voice
-Muad'Dib
Truly the best part of the whole movie.. Paul sticks it to her. The emporer, the guild. They all screwed now.
He put her ass in the kitchen for sure.
In the space of 20 seconds they establish who has the most power in the universe - the Emperor is most powerful in name but is still subservient to the Spacing Guild and Bene Gesserit, yet Paul's powers now exceed the Bene Gesserit and he controls the spice, he has everyone by the balls
DUNE is a terribly underappreciated film. People ALWAYS complain that movies NEVER live up to the novel but it's ALWAYS the case so deal with it! At the time the movie was made, the effects were state of the art. The actors were top notch or soon to be famous. I ALWAYS watch it when it pops up on cable.
There was only problem with Dune; it was too long; I recorded it and and converted it to a miniseries.
I appreciate it more by watching one half tonight, then the second half tomorrow.
Love this film, I always watch when it comes on especially the extended version. My mom always teases me about watching it.
ALWAYS
Top notch casting
A true sci fi classic.
The audible version of this book is a great listen. Lots of different voice actors make it a come to life.
Yes!!! Simon Vance also narrated "Time of the Wolf" by James Wilde (A probable inspiration of the Robin Hood legends) and is a fantastic narrator. I loved his work from the previous book and was very excited to recognize his voice here!
While technically being a deleted scene it infuriates me that this is right now a better adaption of the arc of Thufir Hawat than the new version. There is NO excuse. There honestly should not exist a single thing that the David Lynch version does better than the DV version and yet here we are. Both Dr Yueh and Hawat were handled much better. Damn
It also annoyed me that there’s a rift between Paul and Chani but 🤷🏻♂️
@@Feniansoulit was terrible, did she question her faith/the prophecy in the books like in the film?
The new movie does have allot of issues with some of them dealing with the characters. I also don't like the fact that the spice guild was not hardly seen at all. They also missed allot of other stuff from the book that should have been in the movie. I hear the original unedited version was almost 20 hours. He cut allot out that he filmed. He still got stuff wrong but it is what it is.
Ok, was I the only one who got a little misty-eyed when poor Thufir gave his life to Paul?
Yeah Thufur was awesome.
Nope.
No. This kingly behaviour of the longest order
Nope.
Fret not jws1272 for you are a member of a brother/sisterhood that does exactly that. You are not alone. Stand not ashamed for we understand.
Sting's hair was done PERFECTLY in this movie. Like something straight out of anime. Very authentic. I can't wait for the remake. And that says a LOT because I am sick of remakes.
Jinkin Lavislad it isn’t a remake, it’s an adaption of the novel.
Who’s playing Feyd in the version coming out in 2020?
Robert Busek that role hasn’t been cast, or at least has not been announced if he’s in this film. There is talk that while the Emperor and Princess Irulan will not be physically in the first part, that neither will Feyd.
@@phantomtheorist3388 -- Thanks for the update! Not having Feyd early on is a very strange choice, given that the Atreides-Harkonnen feud figures so heavily in the novel. Is it confirmed that the movie will come in two parts? If so, is there any news on where they will split the novel?
Robert Busek yes there has been lots of news on this. The Beast is gonna be featured in this first film and so is the Baron, so that rivalry will still be super prominent. The CEO of the company producing this and a few other people as well, have said its official they will be doing a part two, and since the very beginning Denis has said he plans to make this in two parts to actually do the story justice. They said there is a clear place where you would end the first film, and many believe it to be somewhere from Jessica and Paul ending up in the desert after the attack, and Paul’s fight with Jamis.
I love how for my entire life Patrick Stewart had looked and sounded the same. Amazing man. 😎
I saw Sir Stuart at a Convention. Love him as an actor but he destroyed my belief in him when he panned his roll in this movie. Or at least he stated that “Gods, what a monster!” was the worst line he ever uttered.
Personally, I think I would utter something similar if I unexpectedly came face to face with a 500 metre beast.
I’ve heart it was because of the Spice
@@moffch4319 ... Well you have to remember that Patrick was a last-minute replacement for Aldo Ray, the actor originally cast as Gurney, but Aldo had some health issues (alcoholic) at the time that crept up during the shoot, so he got dismissed/fired. Because of that short a time, Patrick probably did not have enough time to get an emotional attachment to this Dune project, nor that he probably never read the novel.
@@robwebnoid5763 Don’t get me wrong. I love him as an actor. He has the formal training and experience to handle anything he puts his mind to.
Of course, my taste is not in line with the vast majority. Otherwise De Laurentiis’s Dune would have been the top box office grossing movie of the year.
@@moffch4319 ... Well the other thing too is Lynch thought he was getting another actor named Patrick Stewart, not this Brit. There was probably no more time to cast another actor as they had to keep production schedule going. Aldo Ray did "look" the part of Gurney, wise, stocky & surly. Perhaps thats why they got Josh Brolin to play the part, because he looks like a mean SOB since Gurney is a military/combat leader. The problem with Dune 1984 is Universal Studios cut it down to 2 hours. Not good for a 400-page novel. It was originally planned as either trilogy or 2 parts (2 parts I'm certain), back when Ridley Scott was hired in the late 1970's during early screen writing. After the cut, it was honed down to 3 hours, then again finally to 2. This really disappointed Lynch & he had to cut a lot out of the script & hence it just turned into a mess for him. He disowned the movie in later years after all the flack he & the movie took. Today, the Villeneuve version gets to redeem that 2-part concept, which is really more reasonable for a long book, although maybe a trilogy may have been more respectful to the length of the story.
The original (this ending based off that film) is such an iconic movie. The new Dune (or first part of the set/trilogy) moved along at a good pace, can't wait for the follow-up(s). You did a good job on your edit.
Sean Young and Virginia Madsen were just stunning in their youth.
I too loved this film. It was epic. Moody. Atmospheric. Fabulous cast.
I've heard that sean young is an uber crazed loon. And that's saying something in Hollywood. I think they could have done better. Virginia though. A classic beauty.
@@1111atreides Yeah, she was featured on Celebrity Rehab a few years back.
yes Virgina Madsen was unbelievable beautiful, I googled her quite a while ago and was SO disappointed how age destroyes the face of some people ..
@@KRISHNAWARRIOR
For 57, Virginia still looks good. She and her brother, Michael (look up his recent pictures for a shock), smoked, which we all know, along with sun exposure, ages the skin faster than normal. Regardless, age catches up to us all. Youth and beauty are fleeting, and to face its loss with dignity takes great courage.
I didn't even know this was out there! Thank you for putting it up! I have been a huge fan of this movie from the first time I saw it when it first came out!! I always try to watch it at least once every couple of months, so this was a real treat! Thank you very much!!
I bet the new movie won’t be 3 hours long like this original!
It's a pity that the only on-screen portrayal of Thufir's death that comes close to the novel is in a deleted scene from 40 years ago. Neither the TV miniseries nor the Villeneuve movies were apparently interested in Thufir, like at all.
Still holds up. I love this movie. I've seen it 100 times.
Dune is masterpiece. Chani, Lady Jessica, Tufir Hawat... so loyal to Paul Atreides. Such a passion and determination in their blue eyes ( the spice)!❤️
Legend has told that the legendary eyebrows of Thufir Hawat defeated the moustache of Sam Elliot in a battle to the death.
....but no one has ever defeated the Dude's mullet.... cause it abides!
😂😂👌
He was pakled
It was rumored that the only fight Chuck Norris ever lost was the time he fought Thufir's eyebrows!
And then the same legendary eyebrows of Thufir Hawat defeated the bad eyebrows of Eugene Levy and Colin Farrell also in a battle to the death.
Why wasn't this the original theatrical ending? It ties up everything WAY nicer than the immediate ending of the theatrical.
Has Patrick Stewart just always been 70?
lol
ROFL that'll be SIR Patrick Stewart for you pleb
he lost his hair at age 18 because he suffered of alopecia areata
Slammediadotca He is a vampire. Hes been bitten at that age and will forever stay that age lol
Its the spice. He was born 70 but is getting younger.
“Where there was war, Muad’dib would bring peace”… lmaooooo
Yes on arakis
And where there was peace, they brought war, she wasn't wrong lol
Hey, if everyone on one side is dead or forced to convert--that counts as peace, right?
Eyeless Paul before heading to the desert: "They really got us in the second half"
Yeah, both in Dune and in real life... it seems the human solution to "bringing peace" is to cause more loss of life than existed before, all in the name of "right". It's amazing how many people are so certain they're "right"... and are willing to kill for it. Every time I read Dune or see one of the movies, that point stands out above everything else. Are Paul and Leto the heroes... or are they worse than their predecessors? Although Dune is science fiction, it very accurately portrays the atmosphere of real life: several "houses" all controlling the lives of their citizens... or else.
i read the books and saw the movie when it came out at the theaters. by reading the books first i was able to follow the movie. i loved it. I had all the books in the series and i lost them when my apartment burnt down years ago. wow the things you remember that you had but didn't miss them until a moment like this.
This is somehow more accurate than Dune Part 2
Because it is
@@emddmtchtmsdt For he is the Kwisatz Haderach!
@@emddmtchtmsdt like totally
i work as an extra in this movie back in 1983 here in Mexico City, Dino de Laurentis have 2 movies at the same time DUNE and Conan the Barbarian with Arnold Slazenger
That's cool! Could you please tell us what It was like working on that movie?
Dude years ago I met one of the dudes that played one of the Harkonnen redheaded soldiers.
Slazenger 😂
@@ULTRAWIDE. Yes, I stumbled over the famous tennisbuilder too. Conan the Tennisian, and his trusty Racket.
Arnold was a great tennis player. Had a mean serve!!
The best movie I have seen. It's so Avant guard! Ahead of its time. Great concept of all time history. Thank you, all endings have a message. Good job!
This movie's synth score is fucking awesome.
Toto & Brian Eno
So were the visuals.
I Watch and Read and Watch and Read all the Commentaries and Analyses and History and I STILL SAY, 1 of the Greatest Movies Ever! AND I Stiil.Say THANKS for this clip.Sam !!!
That movie is a genuine work of art! Totally Amazing then, still amazing now.
Excellent ending! Haven't seen the film in years, and this just popped up by youtube automatically after I watched something else, and I didn't look at your explanation before I watched it. After it was over I thought, wait a minute, this IS the ending. Why is it called "alternative" ending? This is just what I remembered, I thought. Then I read your explanation. Good work Sam!
Love the extended version. This was great. I always felt bad for Irulan in this scene. I think it was actually something the sci-fi series pulled off a bit more effectively.
Saw it when i was 14 and it is one of the few movies that sucked me into it like a black hole. It is like Starwars just more sincere. No bullshit kick as mentality or stupid jokes. True fear and adventure with a dark soundtrack...
I have never seen this ending.. and I am a big fan
of the book and this movie.. Thank you.. it is the coolest thing I have seen this year!
“A beginning is a very delicate time. Know then, that is is the year 10191. The known universe is ruled by the Padishah Emperor Shaddam the Fourth, my father. In this time, the most precious substance in the universe is the spice Melange. The spice extends life. The spice expands consciousness. The spice is vital to space travel. The Spacing Guild and its navigators, who the spice has mutated over 4000 years, use the orange spice gas, which gives them the ability to fold space. That is, travel to any part of the universe without moving.
Because the Guild controls all interplanetary travel, they are the highest power in the Universe. The Spice also plays a very secret role in the Bene Gesserit sisterhood, of which I am a part. The sisterhood has been interfering with the marriages, and the children thereof, of the great Houses of the Universe, cleverly intermixing one bloodline with another to form the Kwisatz Haderach, a super being.
They plan to control this super being and use his powers for their own selfish purposes. The breeding plan has been carried out in a strict manner for 90 generations. The goal of the super being is in sight. But now, so close to the prize, a Bene Gesserit woman, Jessica, the bound concubine of Duke Leto Atreides, who has been ordered to bear only daughters, has given birth to a son.
Oh, yes. I forgot to tell you. The spice exists on only one planet in the entire universe. A desolate, dry planet with vast deserts. Hidden away within the rocks of these deserts are a people known as the Fremen, who have long held a prophecy that a man would come, a messiah, who would lead them to true freedom. The planet is Arrakis, also known as Dune.”
I don't know why there was so much hate for this movie? There have been remakes (sci-fi channel) but none really measured up to this version. Frank Herbert gave us a dark, brooding vision of the universe whose denizens had endured endless wars, religious fanaticism, and technological stagnation due to the dangers of AI. I wished they could make better renditions of Herbert's books like Heretics of Dune and Children of Dune. But this version I have on Laserdisc and it's my favorite, no CGI and tasteful special effects.
@@kelleysmith6146 I love this movie and have watch it more than 20 times
God created Arrakis to train the faithful
And God created Dune the movie to train the fanboyz
@@kelleysmith6146 Well the info dump up top at the beginning of the movie may have been an indicator. But I agree it was a pretty good adaptation, and it influenced a bunch of computer games while practically inventing the RTS genre.
After killing Fayde, It would have been great if Paul had shouted, "Now I am the king of pain!"
It´s "Feyd" not "Fayde".
That's some skillful editing. It's been years since I saw the movie, but I don't remember Thufer even being there.
Thank you, I did my best with limited resources
He wasn’t, at least not in the original movie ending.
I hope that someday Lynch will finally be vindicated for making this beautiful Sci-fi CLASSIC.
Lynch himself is actually ashamed of it. Go figure
@@C716 only because the movie studio railroaded him every step of the way. Maybe Dennis Villanueve will have more autonomy in his version that comes out next year
So much was so bad about this film
Possibly my favourite sci fi film...epic is an understatement
The rain was tacked on at the last moment to give the film a happy ending. The original screenplay had a much darker ending.
i would love to see a Full Movie with all the cuts back into it i know it would be like 3+ hrs
There is a 3odd hour version doing the rounds somewhere. I saw it years ago.
The TV version was a two-part, total of 186 minutes. David Lynch had his name removed from it, as he only made the 137 minutes theatrical cut.
It was released on DVD as "Dune: Extended Edition".
Just google Dune Spicediver. It's a fan edit that has all of the cut scenes put back in.
anonimuso thank you sooo much!!
WOOHOO!!!
You're welcome, fellow Dune lover.
This is still one of my favorite movies and a truly awesome soundtrack.
I loved this movie, the script, the actors/actresses, the costumes, and the special effects. The person who created the full-sized worms that were ridden on is reported to have cried when he saw what they looked like in the last battle scene.
I haven't watched the remake and I am not sure I want to.
The first part of the remake is excellent and won't disappoint. The second part, not so much.
Dune is such a complicated series to comprehend...this was a very great adaptation of trying to bring it to the screen...if it were to follow the book exactly...it would be several hrs longer and it would be extremely hard to follow...this movie was one of the best Sci-Fy movies ever made
Unless it were done as a mini-series. It would take quite a few weeks to do right, though, if it followed the books. Still…
Fair play, he got in a knife fight with a Geordie and won.
Brilliant comment, lol
Yep And didn't use is "power" since the end
Dr Parnassus way aye, pet.
Gordon was destined to lose, there are no bottles of Broon on Arakis.
Watched a 'the making of Dune' documentary, it really makes you appricaite the film a lot more when you learn what all they did to make it look more authentic (for that era).
The music score, costumes and general tone of this movie where amazing at the time. Very under appreciated movie cause it didn't follow the books accurately.
I remember seeing this in the theaters, not expecting much.
I was high on weed that day, and that whole intro with the princess and that beautiful synth score in the background, explaining the qualities of the mind expanding spice and its political effects on the universe blew my mind.
High on weed that day, lol
@@robertbrownjr2123 I was a college student at the time, was high on weed most of the days. Great times.
i was around 5 or 6 when i watched this for the first time and it blew my mind completely, hence why i am permastuck in the 1980s,
You’re still high if you think this movie is good.
@@brianjungen4059 it's leaps and bounds better than the trash sci-fi we are force fed today like the Disney Star Wars trainwrecks.
Wow, that ending was spectacular. So much better. Such a terrible loss that the original couldn't have any true vision. That was inspiring. Thank you.
Thurfir Hawat was like an uncle to Paul Atreides (aka Maudib), so his death is especially painful to watch. He was a mentor and friend to Paul, and a very loyal subject to Duke Leto and the Lady Jessica. KNOW A MENTAT BY HIS RED STAINED LIPS.
piter de vries was a: a tleilaxu twisted mentat, and b: addicted to sapho which stained his lips.
thufir had no such issues
@@whitemalerage4231 true, but all the mentat used the juice to tap into their ability.
Thufir served the Atreides for three generations
Paulus, The Old Duke
Leto, The Just
And of course, Paul himself
The only time he felt he ever failed them, was the time Paulus was killed in the Bullring the time he was gored to death by a Salusan bull!
This is the ending we need.
My favorite movie of all time, so under appreciated!
The only time, Patrick Stewart and sting act in a movie together.
I don't think I have ever heard a less interesting fact.
I always wanted to take all the different versions and recut them into a complete full version.
Yeah I watch Dune many times in my youth, I always thought it was a great sci-fi.
Much better than the other endings I saw. I always wondered by Irulan was even in the movie! She had a bit part where she was wandering through a room at the beginning, and her father said she had to leave. The last time was a glimpse of her at the ending.
I always wondered, where did they get the band from? Like they just had a group of drummers hanging out with the fighting army?
The padishah Emporer literally traveled with hundreds of thousands of servant and courtiers
if you know anything about military history, it's not uncommon. I think there was something in the books about fremen drummers? But it's been decades, I could be wrong.
@Eric Grijalva That guy is a brilliant musician.
Sure. They were military drums.
But where were the fifes?
ARMIES ALWAYS HAD DRUMMERS u kidding me? war drums? yankee doodle? dude thats ancient tradition from America to Africa to China, wtf where are u from?
This was a Sci-fi Classic
Is a classic in my opinion
Yep this is definitely up there blade runner Robocop and terminator.
All the Special Editions I have, and NONE of these outtakes....thank you for sharing, as I will look out for a release on DVD.. Meanwhile, New Dune ahead!
Herbert worked on this movie. This is the vision from the original author. It was inspired by great castle, spanning many years. People put it down, but if you really like dune. This is the one, approved by all involved. To great extent. He was the mouse. He was army. He was a locust. Actors put their hearts into it. Sting would not have attached is it truly was 'bad castle'. Because out how great and inspiring the true story really is. Frank Herbert is legend. Even Vader would agree that this story is supreme. This movie is vision.
I love dune the book so much, and I enjoy the movie but believe you need to know the book first for it to make any sense- just too complex to be made into one film imho.
I wish I could shout "SILENCE" and make my wife faint.
Heck with doing it with your wife, make your BOSS faint!
@@gtgodbear6320 There is an old saying after 6 days, God created man, then he rested. then he created woman, and no man has rested since....
LMAO !!!
I'm afraid my wife's training in the "voice" equals or exceeds mine. There are times one does need to "obey" commands after a 30 year career as physician in an inner city emergency room.
or make her split...
The score of this movie is still absolutely haunting and beautiful. I hope Hans ZImmer will at least borrow a bit from it.
He didnt, but was still fun
Nope. Zimmer is phenomenally overrated. He doesn't compose score so much as background noise like a fan or roaring. I can vividly remember the melodies from the 1984 film but cannot remember one from the 2021 and I have watched it three times.
@@kennethfharkin Yeah, I was quite disappointed when I saw it.
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
hard to believe that in 2021 i'm still seeing footage from Lynch's "Dune" that i've never seen before! Please oh please can some wrest this whole project away from Dino D, and make the longest version (okay, i know it was already too long for some folks!), and include all the updated effects (visual and sound) created by some masterful creators (and Dune fans) whose work can be seen on youtube. Rafaella Delaurentis! You're clearly the only one who could pull such a project together...please consider!
to the man who pointed out the sound effects for the floor breaking is the sound of a bowling ball hitting the pins....
i can now never unhear the sound of the pins
WHY
Laser Sly Marbo Quinten Tarantino used the same sound of falling bowling pins in Kill Bill v I
@@Slopmaster yes and i can't un see the image of pins falling when it happens
This version of Dune is awesome.
I just saw the Lynch version, and to be honest, I didn't hate it. There were many things I liked about Lynch's version, even though the studio forced him to cut the movie from over 4 hours to 2 hours and messed up the story line. The characters, the costumes, the art, the sludgy, perverted atmosphere... there were so many great things about it. If it had been made and edited the way Lynch wanted it to be made, it would have been a much better movie...
I think part of the problem is Dune book fans expected it to be a close film telling of the novel but when it wasn't they hated it. Then the casual audience was lost on a lot of the concepts I don't think it's a bad film at all not great but not bad and the deleted scenes added more to the film I do think the modern film is telling the story better due to it been in 2 parts
If it were an 8-10 part miniseries on HBO, it would have been an immense success.
If only David Lynch had that idea... oh he did and was shot down.
Herbert's Dune was one of those monumental epics that have always proven so difficult to bring to the screen. At the time this version was filmed and with the technology of the day this was a well made film, an excellent cast of actors and despite some odd changed to the plot still rather faithful to Herbert. That said it had it's flaws but still considering the vast size of the time frame involved and the vast scope of space, worlds and characters in the original story enough of Herbert's ideas are still here to make an impressive film, far better than many have claimed. After so many years it is still worth watching. I have not seen the new remake but just from the short clips I've seen there is one point that glares at me, an issue I have with far too many films these days. The lead actor chosen to play Paul is another in a long line of whimpy, skinny, pretty boy types who just does not have the presence or physical stature to portray a character such as Paul Atreides. Kyle McLachlan was of the same type and one of the thing I hated about the older film. Even though with time he became a much better actor it's too late now to fix. I don't want the lead to look like Stallone or Arnold but to at least have a bit more manliness about him since there is a lot of action in the story. The original plot moves forward in time some years to where Paul is a more mature man and starting with a scrawny pretty boy all you are ever going to have is a scrawny pretty boy. When Paul becomes the master of the known universe he needs to have the stature and bearing of a real man who can impress and awe just by his mere appearance. There is an agenda be among many modern film makers to downplay the manliness of their leads till they all look like those skinny drug addict eurotrash models in all the perfume ads. If they could get away with recasting Paul as a female I'm sure they would. Now I have nothing against strong female leads, I would watch anything with Lucy Lawless, but I would prefer they come up with original characters instead of changing their gender in a bit to apeal to the sjw in the crowd. Not to open a different can of worms but the same goes for changing the race of a character such as with Marvel's Nick Fury. I'm older, I grew up reading the adventures of Sgt Fury and his howling commandos, and later Col Fury of Shield. He is an iconic character and despite the fact that I love Samuel Jacksons work and he has done a great job in the new movies I would have preferred if he was just a new character, Major so and so or General whoever Furys boss and leave Nick Fury alone. The same with Captain Marvel. He was a brave kree warrior and deserved to be respected and kept as he was. Carol Danvers could have been given her powers and a new name but leave Mar-vell alone. But like I said I'm older and I guess I'm on the losing side now. There is nothing wrong with females or actors of color being major characters just leave the originals alone and use a little imagination to come up with something new
I thought Paul wasn't skinny ENOUGH. Nor any of the Fremen. They were living on survival rations and barely enough water to hold onto life.
NTL, I agree with your general rant.
Still prefer Kyle to the other guy because he did manage to have presence where as the new version was whimsical
I never comment on TH-cam.
Well done here. The quote followed by the Prophecy theme is a very nice touch.
Sadly, no DVD is sold with the deleted scenes, which actually flesh out the movie to even better fit the book. We need an updated Dune movie with this quality of acting.
"Usul no longer needs the weirding module."
I always felt that this adaptation had a great visual look, and was cast well. But the SyFy channell three part miniseries has the proper themes and script. I always dreamed that someday someone should marry the two in a final adaptation, and it is here in 2020. But I will always look at my copy of the David Lynch version with favor for taste and aesthetic, because it's just a beautiful movie to look at.
After seeing the trailers of the new Dune movie, I believe that it will only fall halfway between the two. I wish someone would marry the two strengths, but I doubt anyone ever will.
The newer adaptions borrow so much from the original as if it's cannon, the still suit design for example. That's all David Lynch's influence.
@@scotthudson008 I honestly don't have a problem with it. It's a decent design that doesn't conflict with the book at all.
I always wondered why the princess, who played almost no role in the theatrical release, was the narrator. With this ending, where she is going to be his wife, it now makes some sense that she would tell the story.
I would love to see the full Directors cut of this movie. such great actors, scenes, costumes and music should not be left on the cutting room floor
I owned the DVD of Dune 1 which had both versions of the movie. The Alternate version on the one side and the main theatrical release on the other side. After watching both versions, I found myself preferring the Alternate Dune as the better of the two 😮 because it was more believable than the mainstream version. Darker and more sinister but much more meatier but it's a case of the Exterminator clearing out the vermin and claiming his throne at the same time 😊. A strong movie indeed
He is the Quiznos Hagrid ack!
He is the Cuisanart Cadilac
Now just imagine just after this scene a Borg Cube enters the star system on an intercept course to Arrakis.
Closely followed by the Cyclons and Goa'uld...
Resistance is futile...
With Locutus on board
Y'know what would have REALLY livened things up here???? "Q"..... he's such a nice boy!
Oh yeah, Q would have so worked here. "Kwiside Whateract?" (snaps fingers and everyone turns to bunnies...)
This is a much better ending than the other. Much more meaningful. And I like the quote at the end which encapsulates the whole film really.
"And how is this possible?! For he IS the Kumquat Häagen-Dazs!!!"
For he is the NickNack Paddywack
For he is the Quick Quack, Car Was!!!!
Cuisinart Hatrack!
Squidward knapsack!!!
The Quiz Night Heart Attack
Love this film, always have, always will. Looking forward to the 2020 adaptation too.
I think you did the novel proud, Sam. I agree with your edits!
The new one has scale, no one is questioning that.
Lynch's film had scale too. But more importantly it has what any space opera should have that the new version dearly lacks: Grandeur.
@Tahkaullus01. Don't forget that Lynch compressed entire story in single movie while modern one was just a prolog for it... so don't judge "book" by its cover... because we don't know what they have in the store for the next two movies. 😉
The original movie gave out small book that contained glossaries and the names of the characters written in it for the moviegoers. I was one of them! But alas, I lost mine!
I would give a great deal for one of them; even for a glance and copy!
I give the poster 10 STARS for putting this up here! I hope that you're not snagged by TH-cam for playing copyrighted material, because this is definitely worth money. It's only available in certain circumstances.
6:24 "...Holy $#&%!" If this film had such language, that would be it.
Seeing the new Dune just made me want to watch this. The 2021 version was the most vacant cinematic experience I've ever had, and was depressing if this is the way movies are going. At least Lynch gave atmos and Toto gave a great score
the new DUNE is amazing funny know what you're going on about
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No something was missing, movies is a subjective experience so don't tell other people to like something that you found satisfying. Everyone won't feel the same as you. I also prefer the old version though the new dune isn't bad, it just lacks something that this dune although not perfect captured 4 me.
Neither is perfect but Lynch's version seems a bit better then the new dennis's dune.
@@yavaulie2839 Yeah, it certainly has more life in it. There's no good just throwing talent at a picture; it has to stick, and it just didn't with the new one (I also acknowledge that I have an unhealthy hatred of Hans Zimmer, but I really require music in my music, and he's a glorified audio fx guy).
@@yavaulie2839For me, my problems with lynches movie is that I think the cast in 2021s dune absolutely desemates the older actors, particularly Timothee, furgeson, Skarsgard, and Issac. They are all on point. This new version also gave more justice to the heart of the source material than lynches and also things that were out of reach at the time like the depiction of the sandworms, the sets , the whole universe of dune, everything just feels so alive and real.
Another thing is, I don't find the new film dull or having a "lack of spirit", it just has a different atmosphere from the original movie which is fine, and I much prefer Denis take than lynches in my opinion.
missed Paul's little sister stating he is the cuisine art
LOL Kwisach Hadarach or something like that.
the cuisinart hat-rack. get it right
tom lathrop I don’t know if that was a typo, but never the less still funny.
Phil V The spaz must flow...
@@philv2529 I stand corrected
I think I like this ending better!
Love this movie. Question though, what happens to the worms, now that there are oceans??
A detail left out of the movie that Lady Jessica was the full blood daughter of Baron Valdimir Harconin
Yeah, I've loved this for over 30 years, but never could get into the books, so it was weird when I found out a few months ago that she was the Baron's secret lovechild...
I didn’t remember that. I DO remember that Jessica went against the order when she had a boy instead of a girl. The girl would have married Feyad and THEIR son would have been the Kwisatz Haderak. That was why Paul was tested with the Gom Jabber - to make sure he wasn’t “a monster”.
It was revealed she is the second offspring the Baron. Her mother Mohiam blackmailed the Homosexual Baron into a sexual encounter which produce a somewhat ugly girl. Then the Baron raped Mohiam and that union produced Jessica
HARKONNEN!!! "These are Harkonnen an-i-mals! Please, my lord, let me!
@@NealCEdwards me too. I could never get into reading Rings books, either when I tried. Or, the movies. Dune '84 IS one of the Great Classics of all time! "The Riii-ghteous?!"
Great movie. One of my all time favorites, and one of the most rewatchable movies ever made.
And on the drums today we have... Michael Bolton and Toto...
it could also have been kenny G
I was surprised when I found out that Toto was going to do the soundtrack, but I liked it.
"It's gonna take a lot to take me away from you
There's nothing that a hundred Fremen or more could ever do
I bless the rains down in Arakis
Gonna take some time to do the things we never had"
@@agriperma Couldn't have said it better myself.
@@mariakelly5 Actually, Toto did do the soundtrack. They did the instrumentals. I had the tape soundtrack back in the day.
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Film good but read the books, there is so much more.
this 1984 movie has some serious problems. the whole weirding modules thing is so unnecessary and so dumb.
I saw a special screening of this in Seattle with Frank Herbert prior to the theatrical release. I believe this was David Lynch's first color film. Eraserhead and The Elephant Man were the depth of his catalogue at the time. It was filled with his trademark low frequency and irritating sounds to unsettle the viewer subconsciously.
I know I like all of that David Lynchy stuff!
Now I want to rewatch the entire thing. Loved it but never buyed a new version like bluray
I saw it. It was awesome. Trying to condense this book into a movie would have been a real challenge. I think Lynch did a decent job. I've read the book and IMHO I think it's pretty cool!
Atmospheric describes this movie. Despite a good plot, it is more a feeling than logic. I like the other ending better except the additional Benefits Gesserit quote. That was a worthy epithet.
He just became the druglord of the universe. This is a larger version of Escobar's Colombia.
haha, nice. he was also the leader of an extremist religious group.
Dickum N Lickum the V: Emperor Of TH-cam. What? There wasn’t cocaine before Escobar?
Love this movie. I watch it as often as time permits. This is the first time I’ve seen this. Think they should’ve combined this engine and the ending that was used. Remember, “Never a drop of rain in Arakis.” The whole point was to see it rain. Really well done.