Mitsubishi ASX 1.8 Di-D check engine oil level warning... Fault finding and repair.
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This Mitsubishi came to me after had a service elsewhere, and an "oil level" warning persisted to stay on the cluster...
Unbelievable, that there is shops doing this kind of services to people...
Anyway, here is the fix...
Hope you enjoy the video.
Any questions or comments put them below.
Like always, thank you for watching!
After months of our mechanic trying to sort the same problem, we're so pleased we found this video. It really does work 😊
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My mother just bought a car from motorpoint. She was over the moon and proud of herself for arranging it all . Didn’t take me long to notice the re used crush washer causing a massive oil leak and it was massively overfilled. How can basics be so hard. Ps Thankyou for the video again
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That can be disheartening...
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moral of the story is always check after a service,my dad recently had his golf done got home checked the oil and was none in there.
could have been a very expensive mistake,garage tried to blame my dad hence won't be going back there.
keep up the great content 👌
An expensive mistake indeed!
Good was checked...
Thank you for watching and for your comment!
The reason of this is that this car has dpf and while burning out dpf some part of diesel mixes with oil in time causing raising the level of oil. And not even level of oil is so dangerous but mixed diesel with engine oil makes is more liquid and doesn't lubricate the engine so well. For this aspect it is necessary to replace engine oil to a new one and reset computer flag so computer knows that oil has been replaced.
How regularly do you find it ends up high? I have an ASX and I find I need to change oil every 6 months as level gets too high..
Seems excessive, but I have always checked that level is correct after changing, and I believe it is due to diesel getting into the oil as part of the dpf regeneration cycle.
I do tend to only do short Journeys, yes it's probably not the right car for me but there!
Yes, these 4N13/14's can put fuel into the engine oil, but not likely from any DPF burn. The DPF regen does inject more fuel into the cylinders to raise the exhaust gas temperature to burn the ash from the DPF but only for a few minutes (varies between engines, but I think about 5 minutes max). The amount of fuel used to do this is negligible, and will be burned during the normal combustion process. You WILL NOT see oil level increase on your dipstick under normal operation unless you have a bigger problem. Most manufacturers recommend an oil change after a manual DPF regen also. For absolute sure I would be keeping a check on the oil level every few days for a couple of weeks to ensure you are not diluting your oil with diesel. Cause could be a leaking injector, or HP fuel pump seal if this rise is continuing. Driving with badly diluted fuel destroys engines.
good morning, Luis i bought a brand-new ford in 2007 after a week took it back to main dealer where i had it from with a page of faults. explained to rep what and how i wanted faults fixed and how i did not want them fixed ie bodged. two weeks later had call to pick up car not only they bodged the fix of all they had done less than half of list the morning we returned the car to to have faults fixed my partner bought a set of new rubber mats black with silver diamonds and the day we picked the car up the mats in the rear was covered in oil and mileage had just over 85 miles added the rep said it was test drive milage i took the car away telling them i would never buy a car from them again if i knew then what i know now i would have rejected car and asked for new replacement from that point i never trust big Companys to do any work on cars i do my self
Unfortunately there is some bad ones ones out there, spoiling it for everyone else...
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Looking at the viscosity of the oil I say it's synthetic oil and generally, it comes in 5 liters, what many mechanics fail to understand is that vehicles from the 2010 model are much more sensitive than later. They don't read the manual nor do they check the dipstick, all they want to do is drain the oil, replace the filter empty a can of oil check for licks off you go. It's painful when a client calls to say the engine is behaving erratically. How can a mechanic put 6-liter regular oil on a car that is written on the filling cap 5W 30?
Good fix man, as usual always fun to watch.
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5w30 is referring to the viscosity of the oil, not the amount
Just a quick tip you might already know. Get a syringe the big type with a clear plastic tube that fits in the dipstick tube and drain the excess out less messy that way.love your vids .
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Just be careful.
The high oil level might be caused by diesel dilution.
Typical problem for towncars when the DPF regen gets interupted over and over again.
If you just take out a little bit oil at the time your oil will get higher and higher % diesel in it.
That kan be dangerous ⛔️
If in doubt take a oil sample and get it analyzed 💁♂️
I believe that there are some brands that don't accept manual oil resets anymore. They will reset the mileage for the oil to be changed but it won't reset the dilution. This triggers DPF faults and in some cases limp mode. Lube shops should be aware of these things but it seems that they have no clue.
That's correct...
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Hi, what does this mean and how do I let the service provider know about it. I’ve been having the same issues. Thanks
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Is this something that has to be done every oil change even if there is no dashboard fault yet? Thanks for getting back
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Yes... should be done every oil change...
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I have a similar vehicle, mine is the 4N14 2.2 diesel. That oil level calculated saying 1550 cc, should be reset back to zero after every oil change. If you don't you will have the message that is showing. Once you reset the oil level that message will be removed.
See that 'X' on the dipstick that is a visual guide to show you how much the oil is diluted. Once it reaches the 'X' it needs to have the oil changed, and the oil level reset back to zero.
There is no documentation to tell you about the special functions and resetting the oil level. This is your typical dealer expense trap.
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What's the cheapest scan tool that can do this? I have a Launch but it doesn't have that function
Great job, i dont believe in machanics they dont care some of them, but how can you find a person like you, you seem to be honest, i have a Jeep and no one but me change the engine oil and filters, i wish you was close to me, keep up the honestly
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Thanks!
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Bom dia e bom domingo luis...mais uma viatura foi salvado antes ir a sucataria...bom trabalho
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Obrigado!
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Sunday wake and bake crew. Thks for the vid Luis
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I need to taste that one day...
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They probably let the apprentice loose on it unsupervised.
When my best mate used to work for a certain garage chain, fuck ups were common place. One lad changed an exhaust and forgot to do up the bolts! The exhaust came loose, caught on the road and was ripped off, causing loads of damage to the customers car.
That was just one example of many.
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Got an ASX Diesel too. I have a problem with oil dilution. I am no longer traveling long distances on a daily base. Mostly short distances. So the DPF cleaning cycle runs most time not properly. Some of the fuel gets into the oil. The oil gets changed every 12 Months in the shop. I remove it every 6 Months and put new in. I use a pump through the dip stick. The oil is some nasty stuff. Even after this short time. Not perfect but much better than leaving the old stuff in.
Yes... if you do short runs, and the regenerations are happening more often, then that is the right things to do...
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so you change it every 6 months or 12 months? please decide
The oil change is every 6 months. One time i use a suction pump through the dip stick and 6 months later the shop change it regular with an new filter. After 6 months i do it again and so on.@@outlimitz5225
You’re due a really tricky one next. That’s a few straightforward ones you’ve had 🔧😉 Are the Mitsubishi engines shared with another manufacturer?
Indeed... been quite luck lately...😋
Not sure, I don't think I have seen this engine on any other car...
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Citroen c4 aircross and peugeot 4008 use this 1.8 diesel from mitsubishi
It goes over the max mark when it does a dpf regen diesel mixes with the oil hence the light it actually tells you in the owners manual
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So… is there any unde this video who can sort this issue out,not just removing oil from engine
On my car.in between oil service(6k miles)
Oil is diluted .and showing oil check
We had the dpf cleaned but the issue persists. Could be the short trip problem but it seems to go too high too quick. Serviced , then got a dpf cleaned and 3-4 months later high oil level again. Must be another issue. If this car comes back please try and work it out for your viewers/ subscribing
This didn't came back...
I am not saying it didn't had any issues, I was definitely not asked to look at it again...
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any solutions so far?
Fantastic video. It was the erase fault code I had trouble with. Thank you so much
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How did you mange to do it ? Can someone with a snap on do it ,I have a basic tool thats all
A lot of companies use auto data or Haynes pro sometimes it will say 5.2 ltr and if you put that in it’s over filled and some tech’s just read the data and put that in without checking
Probably did check dipstick but couldn’t be arsed to remove the excess
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Probably...
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I have this exact same problem, changed oil, its at the perfect level now. Havent reset with scanning tool but my problem now is the car is blowing white/blue smoke especially on lower gears. Its not overheating or losing power. What could be the problem?
Difficult to tell... but reset it first, and see if there is any trouble codes stored...
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I couldn’t reset P252F permanent trouble code with my Autel maxicom mk 908. Same car without oil level sensor.
Tried every service function but didn’t find an oil exchange service reset , like in your maxisys. I know cheaper Launch can do this service function.
I’m a little bit disappointed with maxicom.
I don't understand how diesel gets into the sump. Injectors go straight into the cylinder, so what could cause this if not worn piston rings and or failing PCV valve?
Is there fuel being pumped into the cylinder during exhaust stroke?
Post-injection... for DPF regenerations...
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Как Вы его чистите, как включили функцию
Colleague, i had such a case, after some time it will be the same problem, you should do a dijagnostic sdudy of the injector.
What has the injector to do with excessive amount of oil put into the engine?
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Thank you for watching!
If someone poured excess oil then ok. I know that car model wants to raise the oil level, bu putting fuel in the sump dpf filter problem injector learing. 😊😊😊
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I thought that was clear on the video...
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If you need to drain oil like that, use an oil vacuum out of the dipstick. No mess.
I wish I could have all those fancy tools.. and where to keep them...
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Thanks for video 👍
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It’ll begin with H . Im sure. I have plenty of there fuck ups in my place to rectify……
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Hello. Do you know if I can access special functions with Elm327? If yes, what software should I use? Thanks!
Not really sure... never used elm327 for anything like that on a mitsubishi...
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Did you check oil level on ground after?. If dipstick is in front of engine and you lift front it will read lower :)
Not on this drive way... the drive way was a in a slightly angle...
Was perfect for oil changes... as when the front was raised, the car was actually leveled...
Other videos on the channel shows that...
Thank you for watching and for your comment!
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This ain't Luis' first rodeo, far from it! 😁
Nic information sir Your video very helpful sir 👍👍🙏👌
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Great job
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Hi Luis, could you explain a little more about diesel getting into the engine oil please, I had a car with too much oil in it, definitely not over filled at the service, I thought it might have been injector leak or injector pump leaking diesel into the sump, is there an issue with regens that can cause diesel getting into the engine oil? thanks..
Yes... if the DPF system is not working correctly and/or too often regenerations can cause oil dilution... or oil contamination...
This is because to regenerate the DPF, the ecu injects fuel during the exhaust stroke...
Hope that helps...
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We had the dpf cleaned but the issue persists. Could be the short trip problem but it seems to go too high too quick. Serviced , then got a dpf cleaned and 3-4 months later high oil level again. Must be another issue. If this car comes back please try and work it out for your viewers/ subscribing
This one never came back...
Not saying it didn't had issues, I was just not asked to look at it again...
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@@LMAutoRepairs so would a DPF disable help avoiding that?
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That would fix it once and for all...
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Why don't people check the oil level if the light comes on just in case that's all it could be you'd never know and you'd hate to blow your engine not checking is thinking the sensor is faulty That's a very clever clar how it knows if the level is too low or too high
Wasn't Kwik Fit was it by chance? Or Halfords Autocentre, had issues with both of those!
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@@LMAutoRepairs Haha, one left the oil cap off, so when I got back home and lifted the bonnet to check there was oil over the bonnet, they couldn't find the cap so had to get me a new one...The other left a spanner by the wipers which as I was driving home I went over a speed bump and the bloody thing hit the windscreen, didn't break it but scared the shit out of me! On the plus side, free spanner.
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A free spanner it is always a treat...
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@@LMAutoRepairs Haha, yes, that one was, wouldn't have been if it flew off my windscreen into someone else's! It was only a cheapy one mind, not snap on or anything.
What diagnostic tool are you using ?
MS908P
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Do you know if Delphi 2021 would be able to do this please?
Possibility...
I never used such tool...
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keep it simple ..😊👍
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Strange the fast fit place whoever they are doesnt know about the failed dpf regen's issue on these and the oil level 1500cc over , its not uncommon ! , has someone been adding oil trying to get the warning off ,
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when regeneration word come
to one in my mind
dpf delete
my vw 1.6 tdi next week appointment to delete
It's not an oil level sensor that triggers the warning, it is a calculation that the ECU makes based on the number of DPF regenerations the car performs using an assumption that some diesel makes it into the crankcase. The oil level is not actually high, but you should do an oil reset at each oil change to clear the value.
In this case the oil level was indeed high... as per the video.
And yes, that's how it works...
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How do you do the reset? My mechanic told me he cannot reset it with his obd for some reason
As per the video...
@@LMAutoRepairs yeah, sorry, I have sent my question too fast. You helped us too! Thank you!
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I would like donate You pack of gloves 😂😂 unless You love to feeling those liquids by the sensing skin contact (I have them always for first 10 minutes 😂😂)
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To be honest, sometimes it is just laziness for putting them on...😋
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The oil should be 5-W30
Really don’t think they overfilled
Actually, i think your guy came back to you in 2 days or so.
Nice guess... but wrong... never seen the car again...
Again, another prime example that there is no room in our industry for amateurs and minimum wage oil changers
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This wasn't a mechanic fault, there is no actual engine oil level sensor for this Mitsubishi engine, actually you can run the engine up to 8 lits of oil without any check light, usually when the scan tool telling you oil level is up to 1550 and oil level is up to the X mark on dip stick it is meant some DPF or intake plumbing issues ECU keep dumping fuel into the engine and diluted with engine oil.
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Wow yet another example of how without a scan tool changing oil can be tricky
Unfortunately it is true, a simple job like an oil change, it is becoming a technical procedure...
Thank you for watching!
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hello sir , we enjoy your great & fair contents , could we work something out ? PM ❤
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Thank you!
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Probably the fault capitulated as its see who its opponent was....
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The way you parked on the ramps, you’re lucky your not dead!!!! Video also 14 minutes too long, just needed resetting.
Way bigger cars have parked on this ramps... and I am still here...
The video was long as it had to be...
In the end, I also knew it just needed resetting, ( and remove the excess of oil...), but I didn't knew that at the start...
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hay dear luis am english is bad mitsıbushi engine oil level rises leak hose turbo charging house or intercolerr n
Why would the oil level rise, if was an oil leak?
I am confused... sorry...
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dear luis live data standart presure dpf 4-5 kpa ( intercolerr or turbocharging house intake leak) rise oil level engine am working mitsubushi services I hope it doesn't repeat the same thing good luck with your work👍❤️❤️
Not sure I understand what you mean...
But thank you for sharing...
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HALFRAUDS!
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1550cc=1.55 L
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I know what the fault it
Is* there’s diesel getting into the oil which keeps it overfill. It’ll kill the turbo soon enough
Don't think it is exactly like that...
But if you know, you know!
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@@LMAutoRepairs dpf?
@@LMAutoRepairs enlighten me please every days a school day! 👍
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I have explained in the video...
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