Do you think that Malema can talk about her mother’s death,comparing it to the “fake” resignation of Shibamvu. Come on, that too cheap. Shibamvu has left the sinking boat of the EFF.
MK n EFF r playing games, Floyd will never leave his organization. Zuma is a chess player just watch n wait a beautiful outcome frm this. Anyway, i love MK n EFF 2GEDA.
Floyd stabilized ANCYL, stabilized and formalized EFF and EFFSC, now on to MKP. This man is a national treasure when it comes to politicking. I have gained so much respect for Floyd.
I'm sure there won't be a clash of egos in the MK. Interesting times regardless. It's good though, that this is happening in the opposition space, and won't impact government and the running of the country. The politics of personalities are hopefully in the past.
From all the utterances to date - ANC and all those aligned with them politically want NOTHING to do GNU coalition. It came as a terrible shock that they got a slap in the face. Now they like ants in a nest when someone pokes a stock into their secret environment. The major issue is discovery, there are things that should never see the light of day. So they forming a laager and closing ranks.
What if the EFF is strategically merging with the MK party and Floyd is being used as a bridge to ensure that the process runs smoothly without hiccups?
"Farse"...Ebrahim Fakir, you wish...Admit it, in all your supposed brilliant discernment, you never saw this coming. Resorting to ridicule is not going to change the fact that a new force is forming and it's happening in a manner you never imagined possible.
a planned exit and links well to the removal of the 18 mps on the MKs part.. I feel bad for the aspiring MK founders.. This is going to go down badly for MK and the EFF .. an implosion is my analysis.
There are two schools of analysts - Steven Friedman, prof Malukele tend to tell you want they think evidence before them suggests on the other hand you will have prof Ndletyana, Ebrahim Fakir and others who spin something to an anti-narrative. Here Fakir is saying things that are correct only in as far as one has an intention to spin when in reality, this moment cannot be understood in the absence of intelligence vis a vis the recruitment of Shivambu. It's true that one cannot place the move from EFF to MKP for Shivambu in the absence of clear policy for the MKP. IOW you cannot say he is leaving EFF because it is better here or there. So if you take that view, Shivambu is moving as "to consolidate" his defence against VBS - as laughable as that proposition is. Another prism by which to see this though is, Shivambu has been offered a position to write MKP policy which then would mean instead of moving as a defence against VBS, he is moving to create a party in his own image. Second, now that Shivambu has left the EFF analysts are saying he had greater VBS criminal exposure than Malema. That is just nonsense. If there is criminal jeopardy in VBS for Shivambu, it is greater for Malema because for instance, available evidence suggests that of the two the greatest portion of the R16m VBS went to Malema. Shivambu even sent a huge chunk of what was given to him to Malema - if available evidence is true. At any rate, its utter stupidity to say that Malema would wish to throw Shivambu under the bus vis a vis VBS because clearly Shivambu knows where all the VBS skeletons are buried. Allienating Shivambu would be too risky for Malema. Analysis by Ebrahim Fakir is just fake news, absolute rubbish. There's other nonsense about these two parties being not dissimilar vis a vis one-man shows... this too is nonsense. MKP is less than a year old, has no structure, no literature IOW Zuma is all that while EFF is 11-y-o has a complete structure but Malema chooses to override it. IOW we know Malema is a dictator while Zuma might be a dictator. What is now and what could be in future are two different things. Second, Malema is only 2y older than Shivambu while Zuma is twice Malema's age. IOW if both Zuma and Malema are dictators, Zuma won't be one in the next 10y while Malema will/ and could still be for the next 40. If I were Shivambu and I had two dictators in front on me, I would choose one who potentially hasn't much longer to live than one who is my age. Analysis is about evaluating available evidence to deduct what it could mean on both sides, then deciding which of the two is most probable. If a dictator were to recruit me to come write the constitution for his party, I too would go there write myself into that constitution, write out the dictator then pray he will respect the constitution. He might not but even so, he is 86y-o, and probably will be out of my hair in 4. There's no way Zuma will still be mentally agile at 90. He has already become quite forgetful... he will stop in the middle of the sentence because some word has escaped him. When he said "political something something" it wasn't Generation Z speak... he forgot what he wanted to say. If Malema is a dictator today and doesn't respect the EFF constitution today, there's no hope he will in future while if Zuma is an MKP dictator today, there is hope he might respect the constitution once it is there and if he doesn't we all know he won't be around much to be such dictator still. So clearly, the pull to join MKP is great for anyone who has ambition instead of sitting it out in the EFF - is Malema is a dictator, especially. Secondly, if MKP can muster 4m votes without much of a presence is EC, WC, NC, Limpopo - then surely is political future is brighter than that of the EFF. Third, Zuma has adult children and has not favoured them to inherit MKP so as things stand, Shivambu stands a reasonable chance of leading MKP someday soon. For all we know, if both men are dictators, Malema will hand EFF over to Ratanang in the near future. There are seriously compelling strategic and political reasons to bet on MKP than on EFF for any leader at the minute.
You guys must remember that Floyd is not just any member in the EFF but a literal owner of the organization, and even those official channels you talking about what if he's the one who help set them ⤴
EFF should start working for theire 9 percent voters and stop with all this drama and noise making.For me this is all a mascerade.EFF and MK will merge as one at the end of the day .
You think 9 percent is all they got? Just remember out 27 million registered voters. Only 20 million voted. 7 million were turnt away . Cause queues were too long.
Stop bringing sober analyst we want those ones who will insult the EFF and MK this one will reveal or expose the perfect plan by unnecessary doubts Floyd is gone simple.
Do you think that Malema can talk about her mother’s death,comparing it to the “fake” resignation of Shibamvu. Come on, that too cheap. Shibamvu has left the sinking boat of the EFF.
The ultimate political objective here is to merge EFF and MK under the leadership of Floyd and the CIC and this is good and exciting for Black politics and lest we forget that uMsholozi was once a head of ANC Intelligence and this have contributed to the destruction of ANC aNd today Ramadollar ANC has been reduced to a mere 40%. As South Africans we know such analysts like this indian analysts are not happy about this development and sad they will never succeed in EFF and MK merger,this is same analyst that supports and defended phala phala scandal.
You spot on about this analyst subjective hate views. His unhappiness is going to be along journey he must brace himself. Zuma is an organic intellectual. Contrary to their perpetual crap that he is an illiterate. I will keep challenging that stereo type mindset of people who think they are literate yet the most illiterate. They must find the definition of illiterate. Pres Zuma represents the very views of the names he dropped Steve Biko, Fanon & most importantly Chris Hani, Painful fact for some of them the constitution will be reviewed. Viva MK.
Umvile u Malema uthini uthi naxa ephinda abuela back kwi eff wamkelekile Korea abanye bona xa bebuya back abamkelekanga means guys likhona eliyelenqe bafuna ukulenza eff ne mkp Linda wena uzobona kudlalwa I chess apha kuzanywa ukuchithwa I anc
Your analyst must know this one thing. We have never had Fuedalism in Africa particularly in South Africa. It is wrong of your analyst to characterised that which is said by MK as Feudalism because at no time in history have we had a relationship between the kings and their that portrays itself as feudalism. Your analyst must not therefore read the European history of kings and subjects and use it to judge our kings and subjects setting. We have never in history had kings in Southern Africa who were scavenging on it subjects. That's why not one of our kings was ever killed by its subjects for freedom as it has happened in Europe. Your analyst is using Twitter opinions as his think tank and his only view is that of fuedalism which is completely wrong.
Tribalism 2.0. Zuma and his acolytes, sycophants and lackeys within the ANC structures, brought our country to it's knees, through corruption, cadres and pure incompetence. He now wishes to continue the destruction through revolutionary ideals. South Africa wants better. We will continue to vote for better. Imagine, this chaotic MKP seeks to take over governance. I shudder.
Shivambu proudly joins the ranks of MK crooks, looters and tainted politicians and judges. Truly a revolutionary disciplined move by the EFF comrade🤣🤣🤣
Hey Naledi 😢 , na mohlahisi ha aa u bolella tletlebo ea ka ka reng eo ea lehlohonolo? masoabi ke poulelo ea ho bua .. tšepa o tla u thabisa, kea tseba hore nka be ke entse joalo 😂...
This Ebrahim Fakir guy doesn't know what agenda to push. The EFF is the most media-friendly political party on this continent. They transparently communicate their inner-happenings with the public. Announcing a co-founder's resignation formally in a press conference is a sign of professionalism and dignity. It mitigates against unnecessary chaotic rumours and provides a level of clarity. This Ebrahim Fakir guy has some nefarious agenda here...
It was well handled and very dignified
Of course 👏
I think Ebrahim Fakir has really given an eye opening insight
Shivambu not fully resign is just borrowed to mk to help them drafting political constitution 😂😂😂😂😂
You are correct this is deployment of the EFF to MKP
That's your opinion
Politics doesn't work like that
@butler2149
How does it work?
Do you think that Malema can talk about her mother’s death,comparing it to the “fake” resignation of Shibamvu. Come on, that too cheap. Shibamvu has left the sinking boat of the EFF.
So well put Ebrahim Fakir! 6:05 Crisis of politics in South Africa.... people don't actually believe in what they claim or profess to believe.
It's a chess game pipol don't panic EFF and Mk are one thing
MK n EFF r playing games, Floyd will never leave his organization. Zuma is a chess player just watch n wait a beautiful outcome frm this. Anyway, i love MK n EFF 2GEDA.
A chess player to stay out of jail and to loot
@@AndrewMcFarlane_1 like white who stole land and resources
😂😂 your dreams are baseless are you trying to make your chest pains better 😅eff is finished Vuka domkop
They are playing games in your mind. You guys are so much in denial that I feel pity for you.🤣🤣🤣🤣
Enough of this "chess player" theory 😱😱😱😱😱
Insightful guest. Thank you
ZUMA eyes are on ANC.Half of ANC not happy with GNU will join MK
One of the most brilliant analysts in our country.
please bring political analysts that are neutral in their analysis
You mean one that shares your position?
Smh 🤦🏾♂️ how more neutral do you want them to be???
The one who is not partisan.
Floyd stabilized ANCYL, stabilized and formalized EFF and EFFSC, now on to MKP. This man is a national treasure when it comes to politicking. I have gained so much respect for Floyd.
MK as yet doesn't have a "face" like EFF does. Floyd will stabilise and thrive with MK.
Excellent Analysis. Sober and clear. Thank you!
Well spoken
Floyd is the future MK president
True
Julius promised him minister of finance 😢 Zuma believes he is a monarch a Zulu king! Like Mugabe
mainstream meadia struggles to catch up with the narrative on the ground.....and cannot influence it either
This guy is a very sharp analyst
It about the land the country we want it All back
Destroying GNU systematically. Malema, Floyd and JZ will leave you eating a humble pie.
Q😊😊😊😊😊
😂😂😂 Day dreaming
Domkop for 10years what have they done???
@@mbulelokhonzeka8573 What have you done all your life?
LOL. The power of fantasy neh?
This have everything to do with the charges facing this suspects
I'm sure there won't be a clash of egos in the MK. Interesting times regardless. It's good though, that this is happening in the opposition space, and won't impact government and the running of the country. The politics of personalities are hopefully in the past.
EFF and MK are good at using big hollow words to fool their supporters
and fool your mother too
Stop smoking will make you see things😂😂
Just like your DA
@@rhythmictones4983 like revolutionary discipline??? 🤣🤣🤣
@@phumlamazibuko3003 yes you should tell that to fraud Shivambu
the move is a political game by the master stratigic master.
very good move
Nothing is ever guaranteed or set in stone! Hai! 😅
You got it wrong bro. EFF never hated President JZ, but differed with him fundamental
Politricks
How are these analysts chosen
Look Mr Analysis in the politics we dint enemies stay strong
this guy reminds me of eusibias mackaizer
True RIP
That was a great great journalist. SA lost a giant lapho
I was wondering that as well.... something is going on ...hmmmmm
When ANC gets in bed with DA it's good, MK and EFF is strange arrangement, how?
From all the utterances to date - ANC and all those aligned with them politically want NOTHING to do GNU coalition. It came as a terrible shock that they got a slap in the face. Now they like ants in a nest when someone pokes a stock into their secret environment. The major issue is discovery, there are things that should never see the light of day. So they forming a laager and closing ranks.
It is preparation for amalgamation of the two in response to the current political landscapes and ongoing charges for survival.
Moving from one incompetent party to another one
6months old with more than 2m votes😂😂😂MK Danko
Waze wagula futhi kuyanyukela
What if the EFF is strategically merging with the MK party and Floyd is being used as a bridge to ensure that the process runs smoothly without hiccups?
They isn't a permanent political enemies or friends
"Farse"...Ebrahim Fakir, you wish...Admit it, in all your supposed brilliant discernment, you never saw this coming. Resorting to ridicule is not going to change the fact that a new force is forming and it's happening in a manner you never imagined possible.
a planned exit and links well to the removal of the 18 mps on the MKs part.. I feel bad for the aspiring MK founders.. This is going to go down badly for MK and the EFF .. an implosion is my analysis.
It was really a shocking and very sad moment
There are two schools of analysts - Steven Friedman, prof Malukele tend to tell you want they think evidence before them suggests on the other hand you will have prof Ndletyana, Ebrahim Fakir and others who spin something to an anti-narrative.
Here Fakir is saying things that are correct only in as far as one has an intention to spin when in reality, this moment cannot be understood in the absence of intelligence vis a vis the recruitment of Shivambu.
It's true that one cannot place the move from EFF to MKP for Shivambu in the absence of clear policy for the MKP. IOW you cannot say he is leaving EFF because it is better here or there. So if you take that view, Shivambu is moving as "to consolidate" his defence against VBS - as laughable as that proposition is.
Another prism by which to see this though is, Shivambu has been offered a position to write MKP policy which then would mean instead of moving as a defence against VBS, he is moving to create a party in his own image.
Second, now that Shivambu has left the EFF analysts are saying he had greater VBS criminal exposure than Malema. That is just nonsense.
If there is criminal jeopardy in VBS for Shivambu, it is greater for Malema because for instance, available evidence suggests that of the two the greatest portion of the R16m VBS went to Malema. Shivambu even sent a huge chunk of what was given to him to Malema - if available evidence is true.
At any rate, its utter stupidity to say that Malema would wish to throw Shivambu under the bus vis a vis VBS because clearly Shivambu knows where all the VBS skeletons are buried. Allienating Shivambu would be too risky for Malema.
Analysis by Ebrahim Fakir is just fake news, absolute rubbish.
There's other nonsense about these two parties being not dissimilar vis a vis one-man shows... this too is nonsense.
MKP is less than a year old, has no structure, no literature IOW Zuma is all that while EFF is 11-y-o has a complete structure but Malema chooses to override it. IOW we know Malema is a dictator while Zuma might be a dictator. What is now and what could be in future are two different things.
Second, Malema is only 2y older than Shivambu while Zuma is twice Malema's age. IOW if both Zuma and Malema are dictators, Zuma won't be one in the next 10y while Malema will/ and could still be for the next 40.
If I were Shivambu and I had two dictators in front on me, I would choose one who potentially hasn't much longer to live than one who is my age.
Analysis is about evaluating available evidence to deduct what it could mean on both sides, then deciding which of the two is most probable.
If a dictator were to recruit me to come write the constitution for his party, I too would go there write myself into that constitution, write out the dictator then pray he will respect the constitution. He might not but even so, he is 86y-o, and probably will be out of my hair in 4. There's no way Zuma will still be mentally agile at 90. He has already become quite forgetful... he will stop in the middle of the sentence because some word has escaped him. When he said "political something something" it wasn't Generation Z speak... he forgot what he wanted to say.
If Malema is a dictator today and doesn't respect the EFF constitution today, there's no hope he will in future while if Zuma is an MKP dictator today, there is hope he might respect the constitution once it is there and if he doesn't we all know he won't be around much to be such dictator still.
So clearly, the pull to join MKP is great for anyone who has ambition instead of sitting it out in the EFF - is Malema is a dictator, especially. Secondly, if MKP can muster 4m votes without much of a presence is EC, WC, NC, Limpopo - then surely is political future is brighter than that of the EFF. Third, Zuma has adult children and has not favoured them to inherit MKP so as things stand, Shivambu stands a reasonable chance of leading MKP someday soon. For all we know, if both men are dictators, Malema will hand EFF over to Ratanang in the near future.
There are seriously compelling strategic and political reasons to bet on MKP than on EFF for any leader at the minute.
You are all confused making wild guess.
Floyd has resigned, he is now MK.
DP position to be contested in Dec.
Us EFF and MK is one party those are Malema words
They coalescing in a way that keeps EFF seats + MK seats.
Where did they get this analyst. Waste of time
It's ouroboros!!!
Was the VBS saga not the reason 4 his resignation 😢😢😢
You guys must remember that Floyd is not just any member in the EFF but a literal owner of the organization, and even those official channels you talking about what if he's the one who help set them ⤴
You can not change things while remaining the same yourself. All the Best Floyd follow your heart.
This guy is a hater 😂😂 yoh
Wena U are talking nonsense
Shivambo and Malema have a plan.. why do u think malema not appointing a new Dp yet.. they have a plan along with ZUMA..
The Big question: Is the Chess master building a country/government?
EFF should start working for theire 9 percent voters and stop with all this drama and noise making.For me this is all a mascerade.EFF and MK will merge as one at the end of the day .
😂😂😂 you wish where have you seen two hooligans power mongers emerging victorious 😮
You think 9 percent is all they got?
Just remember out 27 million registered voters. Only 20 million voted. 7 million were turnt away . Cause queues were too long.
EFF & MK are both KAK!
MK will eat EFF.
MK will then eat itself.
Plz take your meds
Plz take amaphilisi usuguli mpela😳
Yhuuuuuu 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Might be prophetic
Let me Rectify you!!! MK and EFF will form a very strong alliance then swallow a now weakling ANC whole. Thereafter, emancipate black people!!!!
Stop bringing sober analyst we want those ones who will insult the EFF and MK this one will reveal or expose the perfect plan by unnecessary doubts Floyd is gone simple.
Poor analysis by this guy.
Eff is dying 😂😂😂😂
Vbs looter gonna get pointers from the gupta looting party on how to get away
Those Indians😂😂😂
Indians are always there 😂😂😂
The best looters are Indians
@phumlamazibuko3003 yeah zuma loves the looting indians
Where is Monopoly looters😂😂😂😂?
Do you think that Malema can talk about her mother’s death,comparing it to the “fake” resignation of Shibamvu. Come on, that too cheap. Shibamvu has left the sinking boat of the EFF.
Only the comparison his late makes it serious...I don't know about the sinking.
"Do these people have any serious political ideological commitments?" What say you the Jacob Zuma and EFF cultists?
No
So,EFF absorbing MK??
The ultimate political objective here is to merge EFF and MK under the leadership of Floyd and the CIC and this is good and exciting for Black politics and lest we forget that uMsholozi was once a head of ANC Intelligence and this have contributed to the destruction of ANC aNd today Ramadollar ANC has been reduced to a mere 40%.
As South Africans we know such analysts like this indian analysts are not happy about this development and sad they will never succeed in EFF and MK merger,this is same analyst that supports and defended phala phala scandal.
you think the ZUMA kids are going to let that happen?
@@mvubu6823 they will and sorry for your disappointment.
@@HarwardMbonxa the EFF is dying
You spot on about this analyst subjective hate views. His unhappiness is going to be along journey he must brace himself. Zuma is an organic intellectual. Contrary to their perpetual crap that he is an illiterate. I will keep challenging that stereo type mindset of people who think they are literate yet the most illiterate. They must find the definition of illiterate. Pres Zuma represents the very views of the names he dropped Steve Biko, Fanon & most importantly Chris Hani, Painful fact for some of them the constitution will be reviewed. Viva MK.
This analyst sounds very bitter and negative. I also can sense some level of arrogance
He's sarcasism really takes away possibilities of some of us the woke seeing him as smart analyst. Hes is an analysist of the right wing period.
Does Floyd have voter support?
Yes mostly graduates and middle class
Ebrahim Fakir is not convinced. He just thinks that it's just an attention-seeking exercise.
the analyst is talking bull dust
Umvile u Malema uthini uthi naxa ephinda abuela back kwi eff wamkelekile Korea abanye bona xa bebuya back abamkelekanga means guys likhona eliyelenqe bafuna ukulenza eff ne mkp Linda wena uzobona kudlalwa I chess apha kuzanywa ukuchithwa I anc
Party ka Baba
i disagree with the analist
Anoke nithi anazi ngoba vele in real life anazi ngihlezi ningo I suspect or I think nibaluleke ngani kanti kulelizwe sadlala amambuka manje
How can this be true???
What game is these crooks playing 😅
Your analyst must know this one thing. We have never had Fuedalism in Africa particularly in South Africa. It is wrong of your analyst to characterised that which is said by MK as Feudalism because at no time in history have we had a relationship between the kings and their that portrays itself as feudalism.
Your analyst must not therefore read the European history of kings and subjects and use it to judge our kings and subjects setting.
We have never in history had kings in Southern Africa who were scavenging on it subjects.
That's why not one of our kings was ever killed by its subjects for freedom as it has happened in Europe.
Your analyst is using Twitter opinions as his think tank and his only view is that of fuedalism which is completely wrong.
😂😂 Zuma is the face of feudalism in SA
Tribalism 2.0. Zuma and his acolytes, sycophants and lackeys within the ANC structures, brought our country to it's knees, through corruption, cadres and pure incompetence. He now wishes to continue the destruction through revolutionary ideals. South Africa wants better. We will continue to vote for better. Imagine, this chaotic MKP seeks to take over governance. I shudder.
BLACKS LIKE SHOWS LIKE THIS. LIKE THEIR CHURCH SERVICES.
Same shit. 💩
What miracles will he do WHICH he has not done ✔️ at the EFF. 😂😂
the analyst was talking nonsense , please get someone better next time
What a poor analysis from this guy!
The straw that broke the camel's back
Now juju knows what that means
Carreer politicians; agenda: tenderpreneurship
Marriage with separate bank accounts.
This man doesn't know what his talking about
What a waste of time
It's a planned thing
This guy use big words, but his not saying anything constructive. His confused.
Were instructed to invite a captured and bias commentator
Shivambu proudly joins the ranks of MK crooks, looters and tainted politicians and judges. Truly a revolutionary disciplined move by the EFF comrade🤣🤣🤣
Shivamba needs protection.He thinks Zuma can protect him from going to jail
Shame what a lazy thinker you are?
This analyst is just crazy and chose misrepresent MK
Or maybe the English just flew over your IQ🙂
Talking rubbish
Hey Naledi 😢 , na mohlahisi ha aa u bolella tletlebo ea ka ka reng eo ea lehlohonolo? masoabi ke poulelo ea ho bua .. tšepa o tla u thabisa, kea tseba hore nka be ke entse joalo 😂...
This Ebrahim Fakir guy doesn't know what agenda to push.
The EFF is the most media-friendly political party on this continent. They transparently communicate their inner-happenings with the public. Announcing a co-founder's resignation formally in a press conference is a sign of professionalism and dignity. It mitigates against unnecessary chaotic rumours and provides a level of clarity. This Ebrahim Fakir guy has some nefarious agenda here...