Mbeki slams MK Party and his successor Jacob Zuma

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  • Former ANC President Thabo Mbeki has lambasted the uMkhonto weSizwe Party and his successor Jacob Zuma for saying that he is still an ANC member, but campaigning for the newly formed MK party.
    Mbeki also commented on the DA's letter requesting the United States and other Western countries to observe Elections in South Africa .
    Speaking to SABC News, Mbeki also says he will campaign for the ANC.
    He also touched on the developments in Senegal and Haiti.
    For more news, visit sabcnews.com and #SABCNews on all Social Media platforms.

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  • @wernerkruger9709
    @wernerkruger9709 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +162

    In the wise words of Madiba....if the ANC does to you what the apartheid government did to you then you must do to the ANC what you did to the apartheid government...

    • @sentsolebatla2512
      @sentsolebatla2512 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      But he never said the state capture enablers should be blindly followed right

    • @wernerkruger9709
      @wernerkruger9709 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@sentsolebatla2512 I think hes looking down on SA and thinks what I have left them with they have completly distroyed ...hope gone, trust gone, ANC gone....the blind leading the blind

    • @patternaid280
      @patternaid280 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But the ANC has not come anywhere near to doing to anyone what Apartheid did to all of us black and white. So this doesn't apply. But I think we all have to wake up to the reality that "demoncrazy" is a system of the masters of wealth and will always be in favor of those who have the best means.

    • @cyntheriamasebeni2016
      @cyntheriamasebeni2016 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      But what I don't understand in this act 0f Zuma and the MK is that, it seems the ANC made wrong now not during his 9years.
      This slogan can supported by all South Africans if it was said by young and newly established leaders, not this Nkandla person who ruled for 9 years recently 😢

    • @mawandla4222
      @mawandla4222 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nice quote but Mandela never said that.

  • @masauso100
    @masauso100 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +75

    It breaks my heart to see the generation of patriotic leaders like Thabo Mbeki phasing away, while we can't find replacement for them.

    • @malusilinganiso3862
      @malusilinganiso3862 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It breaks mine too to see the likes of Mbeki attacking their fellow comrades for exercising their rights in this democratic society. Ufuna ukushifter blame to Zuma ngoku? Yena after saying all what he said thinks we will change like he did and now vote for the criminals? Kant emhlabeni kunjani?

    • @wahwah7701
      @wahwah7701 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      We have EFF and Julius Malema to replace this incompetent old man called Thabo Mbeki.

    • @Lunga3
      @Lunga3 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      😂😂😂 joke of the year

    • @Sakhephi
      @Sakhephi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This "patriotic" leader denied poor members of my family hiv/aids drugs. They died together with 330 000 others. He is responsible for their deaths

    • @ntandoyenkosindlovu2835
      @ntandoyenkosindlovu2835 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thabo Mbheki is not innocent
      Do you know how he manipulated state resources for personal gain this guy own mines in DRC & SANDF soldiers are there to protect his mines while DRC people are suffering
      His wife Zanele is a shareholder to more than 100 listed companies kwi JSE
      Zanele mbheki was involved in Rand manipulation scandal but no one punished her for that
      So this madala isn't innocent at all

  • @MfanafuthiMkhize-pe1mf
    @MfanafuthiMkhize-pe1mf 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +63

    One of the best intellectuals that our movement has ever produced…

    • @LonwaboMiggels221
      @LonwaboMiggels221 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Produce what the man behind COPE him And TiTo Mboweni and Manual mxm wena Mkhize

    • @ThembaCindi-yy7yo
      @ThembaCindi-yy7yo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Just to fulfill a hullabaloo say.No action from him.intellectual just for nothing..From his presidency we benefited nothing.

    • @DumaM-ir7rk
      @DumaM-ir7rk 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Our problems today started back when Mbeki was the president. He used organs of states to fight his personal battles. Mbeki must answer for arms deal. Mbeki knew about the Eskom problems and he did nothing. Mbeki killed our people with HIV and AIDS

    • @ernestsmith4752
      @ernestsmith4752 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      He remains the best president we've had .jz was a disaster

    • @fanamlawuli6761
      @fanamlawuli6761 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      What did he do with our two thirds majority we gave him?

  • @happytape307
    @happytape307 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +92

    Mbeki is too reasonable for the militant revolutionaries. Their ego is too big to put South Africa first.

    • @Coco-kw3iv
      @Coco-kw3iv 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      How is Mbeki putting South Africans First when he tells you straight up that you are not going to get the land? Your mines, land and reserve bank will be in the hands of foreigners...are you even listening? Or Zuma's scapegoating is blurring your reasoning

    • @BronxWavy
      @BronxWavy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      MK will not do better than ACDP & the FF+!
      😂NOW TAKING ALL DELUSIONAL BETS

    • @user-qd1ti7fz3y
      @user-qd1ti7fz3y 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Zuma saved millions of lives by rolling out arv treatment while Mbeki was speaking big English debating whether hiv causes aids….he never campaigned for anc during Zuma presidency and nobody said anything about that. He recently said he won’t campaign for anc because it’s full of thieves. I sense that he never recovered from Polokwane loss, he expelled Zuma from government as deputy president and Zuma beat him and became anc president the rest is history.
      After all most members of anc have dual membership of sacp and anc, at some point sacp wanted to go independently from anc. Infact some even had triple membership anc, sacp and mk. They just dislike Zuma for what reason? They know!
      I don’t get what the fuss is about!

    • @kunlekolapo14
      @kunlekolapo14 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Poverty stricken South Africa?

    • @ThulaniNdzuzo-ei5qb
      @ThulaniNdzuzo-ei5qb 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@BronxWavyI'm just laughing the comments

  • @Yasuke488
    @Yasuke488 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

    1. When Madiba was in charge, President Mbeki was pulling the strings from behind.
    - During his presidency, South Africa's economy was growing.
    - The debt-to-GDP ratio was less than 50%.
    - Some of us, fortunate enough, started thriving businesses in the townships.
    - The Safety and Security Cluster was effectively carrying out its duties.
    - The mood in the country and in Africa was positive, contributing to nation-building.
    - South Africa was respected and taken seriously on the world stage.
    - We were looking forward to voting for the ANC, a united movement.
    Even though I don't trust Ramaphosa for lying about dealing with corruption and lawlessness and for doing nothing when our businesses were looted and burnt by criminals, when Mbeki says I must vote for the ANC, maybe it's time to listen.

    • @zicodasilva1496
      @zicodasilva1496 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

    • @muzib457
      @muzib457 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He is now mixes his word's, he's said how can someone vote for imigodoyi ( dog's) who are leading the Anc,we will wait for the 29 May to make our choice

    • @veronicakarstel9126
      @veronicakarstel9126 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And then that red jelly tot Julius the commie campaigned to get a successful president out and put that scum Zuptha in.

    • @zwelihleeugene1402
      @zwelihleeugene1402 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Never

    • @bongwekhuzwayo2569
      @bongwekhuzwayo2569 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      We don't eat GDP

  • @manyananihlwatika726
    @manyananihlwatika726 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +118

    President Mbeki was never perfect yet he still remains the best President of the Republic of South Africa we ever had... Period

    • @sibongilekhoza9251
      @sibongilekhoza9251 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Liar

    • @Nomngcefe
      @Nomngcefe 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      The who had 2third majority in parliament and did nothing with it

    • @hloniphanindlela4800
      @hloniphanindlela4800 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Y you say he was the best..mention the things he did..nd we I will tell you Y someome did better than him

    • @ohlangeni
      @ohlangeni 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Mbeki had the chance and the power to dismantle Apartheid Economy with the Two Thirds majority. Instead he brought neo-Liberal GEAR policy from Washington that promoted White (Apartheid) Economy, creating the world's most unequal society with wealthy White European colonists and poor Black people

    • @Coco-kw3iv
      @Coco-kw3iv 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Who closed all skilled based institutions and turn around advocating for "skilled foreigners" to come work in South Africa?

  • @zenzelexulu2967
    @zenzelexulu2967 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +69

    The problem with educated people is that they dont understand how Zuma beat them with his grade 2 now he is trying to stay safe but he is not

    • @ignatiouschikurahove7239
      @ignatiouschikurahove7239 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Most SA voters are not educated and uneducated people must not vote at all. That is why we have challenges today

    • @sollynkadimeng3091
      @sollynkadimeng3091 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I just wish for a second rsa citizens should feel ashamed of themselves and make a different for the future of our children...Africa will never change the more things changes the more they stay the same....

    • @BronxWavy
      @BronxWavy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      When Zuma pjsses on his fans, they think its raining

    • @user-pj4vp9je3j
      @user-pj4vp9je3j 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He lied and you all believed him and south Africans like to favour thugs and speak in forked tongues

    • @siyabongajacobdlamini1764
      @siyabongajacobdlamini1764 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Who is educated in view or which part is lead by educated people.​@@ignatiouschikurahove7239

  • @mzoxolomdiza2649
    @mzoxolomdiza2649 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    No person in their right mind will want to associate themselves with this party

    • @MguduSebe
      @MguduSebe 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      you are quite right brother, they are even threatening to destabilize the elections, its just insane

    • @yourfriendlyneighbourhoods8202
      @yourfriendlyneighbourhoods8202 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Most recent polls have shown this party grow to the third largest in the country, ahead of EFF. Absolutely shocking how many people support Zuma after everything he did to this country

    • @RG-jr8ym
      @RG-jr8ym 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      well jacob did say he doesn't like clever blacks...

    • @akho2304
      @akho2304 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@yourfriendlyneighbourhoods8202 The electorate gets to be given a choice to paraphrase Maggie the Iron Lady. After the 30 years of 'democrazy' we have had, we really ought to have a deep look at the choice, we can't keep blaming the voters as it will start bothering on insanity

    • @akho2304
      @akho2304 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RG-jr8ym If you choose, you can say that for another 30 years but if you know what Magret Thatcher said of British politics, then you would know that it is time we look the other way, otherwise we ourselves are not 'clever black' if we keep blaming the voter

  • @ManteMumty
    @ManteMumty 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +122

    It seems In Zulu minds, the only perfect leader in S.A must Zulu according to all this comments. Guys great leaders are judged by their leadership characters not race and tripes 😂😂😂

    • @ThaboBanger
      @ThaboBanger 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      U need to start thinking

    • @BronxWavy
      @BronxWavy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      They will only respond with insults

    • @mabhubesintombela7600
      @mabhubesintombela7600 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      sizokushaya wena, uyadelela lomuntu

    • @allmyuzik1
      @allmyuzik1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's because all of them are dump, the only thing they know is "nkabi yam"😂

    • @delanikhumalo2221
      @delanikhumalo2221 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Is ànything mentioned Zulu maybe i missed? Or your mentality is kind of tribalist mind. Thats what happens if you're tribalist, if someone talk to you it sounds tribalist.

  • @Mlambo9432
    @Mlambo9432 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +81

    So now we are suppose to vote for a criminal. Mbeki needs to stop talking.

    • @sentsolebatla2512
      @sentsolebatla2512 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      We are a country with hard fought freedom, where nobody shouldn't be forced to vote for whoever they want to. You have a right to not vote for them but some people same rights you enjoy to vote for them

    • @nthabisengkwayiba4573
      @nthabisengkwayiba4573 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Who is the criminal? JZ / CR

    • @sentsolebatla2512
      @sentsolebatla2512 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@nthabisengkwayiba4573 we all who have criminal record between the two
      And we all know who stole money from public purse and who was the victim of theft at his home ,we all know who's still have unfinished court cases. Lastly Ramaphosa was never accused of rape that's all can say

    • @siyabongasibanyoni6830
      @siyabongasibanyoni6830 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Mbeki is the greatest South African president of the 21 century
      During his presidency South Africa was booming

    • @DumaM-ir7rk
      @DumaM-ir7rk 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Cyril

  • @srininaidoo
    @srininaidoo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    It's hypocritical to castigate the leadership of the ANC but you campaign for them.
    Obligation my foot.

    • @sentsolebatla2512
      @sentsolebatla2512 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      When we still have apartheid beneficiaries privileges who never apologized or saw nothing with it. Or what it did to blacks, and nd they still want to rule over the same people who were disadvantaged and brutalized, but because they don't have scars and bruises of the past. They now say, in their party policies they don't see color but treat everyone equally regardless of the different backgrounds. And if they get in power, they would scrap every policy that's been set to redress injustices of the past
      For me ,it's not hard nor difficult to understand why former president Thabo Mbeki is doing that. Because we ( blacks ) can still notice our scars and we felt the same pain, it's easy for us to understand his stance. My guess would be, you never went through what we've been through.That's why you don't understand his stance

    • @sosothefcknbarber3059
      @sosothefcknbarber3059 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Who cares about your foot

    • @siyabongakunene5052
      @siyabongakunene5052 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's called being conscientious and sober minded. Critical thinking is an important part of leadership and a healthy organization. Once you create echo chambers, problems ensue.

    • @brandoncliffswarts5100
      @brandoncliffswarts5100 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @srininaidoo, he's not campaigning for the leader/ship of the ANC but for the ANC as a party.
      It is possible for one can support a party without necessarily supporting the conduct of certain people in the party.

    • @sakhumzisosibososibosakhum1337
      @sakhumzisosibososibosakhum1337 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ANC is the idea, not the members 😅. "We might die, but Rome will live forever,"

  • @NathanZar
    @NathanZar 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Thabo Mbeki was an ANC member when he co-founded and voted for COPE.

    • @whitesbujwa9386
      @whitesbujwa9386 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If that is true then..... There's a problem here by what he said

    • @oralminyi9826
      @oralminyi9826 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      And this is not true

    • @destinymik9820
      @destinymik9820 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      😂😂😂😂

    • @destinymik9820
      @destinymik9820 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Mbeki is a co founder of Cope but lacked the confidence to campaign Leave Zuma to come to the open and campaign freely😂😂😂😂

  • @Abby_KayGee
    @Abby_KayGee 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

    If Zuma defines himself outside ANC then why ANC can't let him go??? For political party that is over 100 years old but still don't know how to deal with such matters😢

    • @DumaM-ir7rk
      @DumaM-ir7rk 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      This old men is evil and dishonest. At some point he made it clear about what he think about ANC now he said any card carrying member is required to campaign for ANC but during Zuma years he refused

    • @sollynkadimeng3091
      @sollynkadimeng3091 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They can't even deal with themselves...black people for the last 30 something years they won't change...that is why we will stay poorer even for the next 3 generation to come...

    • @Dotata2009
      @Dotata2009 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@DumaM-ir7rkhe is contradicting himself

    • @DumaM-ir7rk
      @DumaM-ir7rk 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I hope Mbeki will remember this
      He also wrote that he was surprised that Zuma had publicly announced that Mbeki would campaign for the party.
      "I appeal that nobody should abuse or cite my name falsely to promote their partisan cause, including how the 2009 ANC election campaign would be conducted," Mbeki wrote.
      Mbeki said he was still deciding what to do after losing the presidency.
      "Whatever I do in no way involves me in the internal politics of the ANC or the functioning of the government of South Africa," he said.

    • @DumaM-ir7rk
      @DumaM-ir7rk 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ Dotata2009 this evil old man is a dictator who was power hungry. Thinking he is the only one who can save South Africa. Mbeki he is that narcissist friend who think the whole gang must listen to him only because he possess Bachelor of in Economics not bachelor in commerce majoring in Economics atleast.

  • @thenjiwenxumalo8828
    @thenjiwenxumalo8828 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +74

    Thabo Mbheki you not truth to yourself as well, you want to be seen honest man while not

    • @user-db6iz8mj6l
      @user-db6iz8mj6l 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Rubbish u MK and criminal zuma supporters

    • @PhumeleleSibeko-lu4cz
      @PhumeleleSibeko-lu4cz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ARE you honest to yourself? Wena!!🤔🤔you zupta supporters we know that we have a constitution "Roman Dutch Law" in our country. Which is giving you that privilege to think and talk the nonsense you have been thinking and talking. If it was not for it you would not be allowed.

    • @dothadance1
      @dothadance1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Are u from KZN? If you are then nothing new there, Mbeki and Mandela might as well be the devil himself to you. We know that.

  • @thomasbisschoff7136
    @thomasbisschoff7136 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Yes, Senegal and Haiti should be our focus, not Israel. Both these countries have African people that are in need! Charity begins at home!

    • @DumaM-ir7rk
      @DumaM-ir7rk 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @thomasbisschoff7136 while you focus in killing Palestinians and Russians? People of Palestine and Russia didn’t look away when we were in trouble and we can’t do that to them

    • @malusilinganiso3862
      @malusilinganiso3862 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He wrote a long letter to release someone whom he knew nothing about a left his comrade be jailed without defending himself in court. Which resulted in more than 200 innocent people be massacred in Phoenix. Mxm

    • @malusilinganiso3862
      @malusilinganiso3862 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sometimes izinto ngathi nizijonga niqhunyiwe nina bantw abamnyama

    • @malusilinganiso3862
      @malusilinganiso3862 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We know what FNB did in Zuma's term and we know that Mrs Mbeki is the shareholder .

    • @malusilinganiso3862
      @malusilinganiso3862 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      So you're saying Palestinians supported ANC during apartheid can be massacred and that to you is ok?

  • @sgqumfemfevabaza9352
    @sgqumfemfevabaza9352 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    A question to all MK members, your president says he still remains a member of the ANC, are you also ANC members? if not why?

    • @josiahmanganyi6917
      @josiahmanganyi6917 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You know that Zuma is a polygamist and he sees nothing wrong with it!His votes will be shared between ANC and MK!National MK and Provincial ANC! Most voters has shared their votes between parties especially in local government elections why because all the parties cannot be trusted!

    • @MKL_D
      @MKL_D 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      You are waiting your time. They can't read. Send a voice note.

    • @BronxWavy
      @BronxWavy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      They don't know. They just do what Zuma does

    • @muzikayiseNgubane-gf3rt
      @muzikayiseNgubane-gf3rt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Fuseg rubbish

    • @nduduzosithole1584
      @nduduzosithole1584 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      We are confusing the enemy 😂

  • @krisndove6749
    @krisndove6749 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    Stupid Mbeki. He said he won't campaign for Thieves. He must focus on ANC

    • @josiahmanganyi6917
      @josiahmanganyi6917 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He was talking about those who formed MK Party!They are the real thieves and looters!Now Mbheki can campaign freely and let ANC gets 60%votes!

    • @user-et9oy1tf9e
      @user-et9oy1tf9e 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      He is going to campaign, Jacob Zuma project thieves agone.

    • @sentsolebatla2512
      @sentsolebatla2512 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      That's his rights to campaign for it or not, nothing to do with anyone

    • @blessingngcobo7274
      @blessingngcobo7274 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I remember that

    • @isintu1044
      @isintu1044 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@sentsolebatla2512but not JZ?

  • @Nomngcefe
    @Nomngcefe 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    It's obvious why ANC declined in 2009, Thabo Mbheki and his friends formed COPE, taking lot anc members. Mbheki had 2third majority in parliament,, but as black person I can't point out anything he did.

    • @DumaM-ir7rk
      @DumaM-ir7rk 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mbeki is the white people tea boy or ice boy. They willl never upset any white establishments no matter what. I call them your typical uncle Ruckus

    • @Alexander-fw7st
      @Alexander-fw7st 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      He stepped down when requested.
      He did not try to hang on to power.
      Like Jan Smuts, he is at intellectual.
      They never do well in government.
      Sad.
      Viva South Africa.
      Love to all.

    • @monwabisitembani6319
      @monwabisitembani6319 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      If you can answer the question of what was the South Africa's financial rand and South Africa's commercial rand and what became of them then may be you can look again at your assertion. If not then I don't know what to say.

    • @BronxWavy
      @BronxWavy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @monwabisitembani6319 what's your point exactly, trying to sound like a political scientist

    • @monwabisitembani6319
      @monwabisitembani6319 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No point at all.@@BronxWavy

  • @malusimavundla3979
    @malusimavundla3979 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    If there is something former president Thabo Mbeki should do is to take South Africans seriously and tell us what happened to President Nelson Mandela and Chris Hani then l can take him serious otherwise he has no back bone to me and remain an agent just like his president Ramaposa

    • @paullamola2317
      @paullamola2317 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You want to dwell in the past and it’s not going to take South Africa forward. That is not a solution. Focus

  • @Itssophie277
    @Itssophie277 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    My brother died during his tenure, refusing to rollout arvs

    • @Benjamin-oh3mn
      @Benjamin-oh3mn 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Your brother was supposed to wear condom🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @Pops_cxxl
      @Pops_cxxl 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Your brother should’ve stopped smashing raw

    • @zBonx
      @zBonx 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      People died during Covid ..who do you blame? Please

    • @thenjiwendebele6938
      @thenjiwendebele6938 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We buried more than 6 family members in 2 yrs coz of hiv/aids- he disapproved arvs,💔

    • @nhlanhlamanatha8799
      @nhlanhlamanatha8799 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Some times we fail to tel our loves ones to use protection wen engaging oneself to sexual activities wen infected we. blame others as if Bheki was supposed to teach and follow them to check tht are they using condom in the bedroom ,stop blaming Bheki your brother failed to use condom,and codomd were free and still free,during COVID people were failing or rather rufusing to wear musk ,are I still going to blame Ramaphosa ,shame on u and each one of us should be responsible to his or her health stop blaming Bheki

  • @mtetelelimrwetyana2002
    @mtetelelimrwetyana2002 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Mbeki will never recover for not finishing his term and he wasted his two thirds majority he had. He must eat presidential sassa

    • @SiboneloThwala-uc1ro
      @SiboneloThwala-uc1ro 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂😂

    • @CMNMEDIA1
      @CMNMEDIA1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Zuma is still bitter about Nasrec and being thrown into prison by Chief Justice Zondo...

    • @Lunga3
      @Lunga3 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​@@CMNMEDIA1a joke 😅 how about you Xhosas and Mbeki being bitter after defeated in Polokwane and start mobilizing your colleagues in any states organs to assist you pushig revenge agenda🚮 telling us of cangaroo set-ups commission🚮

  • @siphosakhemajola9136
    @siphosakhemajola9136 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    He didn't campaign for Anc under Zuma actually he refused now he says he's obliged to compaign 😂

    • @zumkwana101
      @zumkwana101 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hypocrite!!

    • @siphosakhemajola9136
      @siphosakhemajola9136 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @user-ug6pf7lg1w this ANC he's campaigning for is not corrupt?

  • @johantheunissen8367
    @johantheunissen8367 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    😂😂 The ANC is destroying itself. Job done

    • @1986aurora
      @1986aurora 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Themselves and south africa

  • @mthokozisimgabi1005
    @mthokozisimgabi1005 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    Thabo Mbeki is a big hypocrite, he said he won't campaign for imigodoyi but now, the words coming out of his mouth are astonishing, I'm totally flabbergasted. He also thinks too much of himself, if there is anything he wanted to know about MK, he should've contacted Msholozi from the beginning for accurate information. But he has acted like all other deceptive hypocrites, already commenting negatively without hearing the news from his comrade or former comrade. No wise and fully mature man act like that. Thabo is overrated, he's only an average intelligent gentlemen but doesn't possess wisdom . He is too old and too tired, he's no longer relevant in South African political space.

  • @nombusoxaba8225
    @nombusoxaba8225 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    What happened to your COPE , Mr Mbheki?😂😂😂😂😂

  • @keystv1961
    @keystv1961 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    Mbeki did not do much for black people.... H e just played it safe and wrote Poems...

    • @mr5332087
      @mr5332087 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Absolutely 💯

    • @natovaneeden1757
      @natovaneeden1757 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      😂 mxm

    • @leilahakulinen
      @leilahakulinen 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Thabo Mbeki & Manto Tshabalala-Msimang's preferred herbal remedy products (beetroot, garlic, and lemon juice) killed an unnecessary number of HIV/AIDS patients 😢, although ARV drugs 💊 were readily available.

    • @yourfriendlyneighbourhoods8202
      @yourfriendlyneighbourhoods8202 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Stats say otherwise. SA’s most successful post apartheid economic growth happened during Mbeki’s presidency

    • @TheSerenityRAIN
      @TheSerenityRAIN 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      He presided over RSA's highest growth rate and lowest unemployment to date.

  • @user-sy1wy6mn3z
    @user-sy1wy6mn3z 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    😂😂😂😂 this guy mbheki , 2/3 majority did nothing

  • @KoketsoR7
    @KoketsoR7 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Till this day President Mbeki never liked the fact that he was voted out of power by President Zuma. It happens its life. But we must respect both men.

  • @cliffordgrobler
    @cliffordgrobler 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    You say Zuma is not honest, is ANC

    • @chiefer1325
      @chiefer1325 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Do you remember how Zuma says he took a shower after...to wash off ....? Do you also remember when Zuma said he built Nkandla with his own money ? Do you remember ? Do you remember when he said he wants his day in court and when the day arrives he tried to avoid the day in court? Do you remember Guptas? I think Zuma might be honest

    • @Simi962
      @Simi962 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Honest questions/reminders for a thinker my friend. Unfortunately, for some, hearts and not minds are at work.
      Zuma said ANC will rule until Jesus Christ returns. I am laughing hard. He’s with MK as we speak.

    • @ntombizethumbatha195
      @ntombizethumbatha195 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@chiefer1325 we remember but we have NO CHOICE. Malema still needs to grow. The ANC failed we must give MK benefit of the doubt then if nayo ngasiphethe kahle sikhipha.

  • @ThulaniNdzuzo-ei5qb
    @ThulaniNdzuzo-ei5qb 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I'm a Member of the ANC i will die as Member but i won't vote for them 😅😅

  • @mphothulo7929
    @mphothulo7929 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Mbeki did not want to vote for a criminal but suddenly is voting for criminals is money and positions

  • @user-fo8oj3yn7j
    @user-fo8oj3yn7j 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Don't worry Mr Mbeki we on the ground we will vote for ANC I support you statement today thanks Mr Mbeki

  • @elizeleroux6388
    @elizeleroux6388 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Why was Mheki brother the wise man not our president?

  • @malusingongoma2830
    @malusingongoma2830 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Why doesn't Sophie ask Mbeki about formation of COPE. These journalists are not interested in revealing truths.

    • @ndamanekandamanei1965
      @ndamanekandamanei1965 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Malema's gibberish sounds palatable to your ear.

  • @user-no8jq8xd8n
    @user-no8jq8xd8n 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Is Former President Mbeki ever campaign for ANC while Zuma was President if not he has hatred against the Man

  • @seanmyers8380
    @seanmyers8380 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I think we should also remember how Thabo Mbeki killed many South Africans by denying the fact that HIV leads to Aids and that people should be provided with medication to supress this virus.
    We have not forgoten that tgis is the very same Thabo Mbeki who assaulted Winnie Madikizela Mandela in full public view.

  • @mphelorodney6057
    @mphelorodney6057 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Zuma destroyed the ANC, it will take time for ANC to renew itself

  • @johannesmweli2483
    @johannesmweli2483 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    He had said he was not going to campaign for an ANC that is led by a criminal but he has since changed his tune. Flip flopper

    • @gambu4810
      @gambu4810 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The criminals and criminally charged people are no longer leaders of the ANC. Didn't you hear about the new election slate of the ANC? Mbeki understands that the current leaders are not criminals.

    • @RastaAfricanGentleman
      @RastaAfricanGentleman 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Money broe

    • @Coco-kw3iv
      @Coco-kw3iv 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@gambu4810 go comment in Zimbabwe. This is family affairs.

    • @Qotha
      @Qotha 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@gambu4810 Phala Phala criminals are leading the ANC

    • @jaconwood
      @jaconwood 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@gambu4810 🤣🤣🤣

  • @makhosinimahlangu3598
    @makhosinimahlangu3598 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    He is mad he wants ubaba to lower himself to him

  • @Itssophie277
    @Itssophie277 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    My brother died his tenure, refusing to rollout arv.

    • @ncebazakhengidi8030
      @ncebazakhengidi8030 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mina it was my mom Bro

    • @nduduzosithole1584
      @nduduzosithole1584 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      And Zuma rolled out ARV's, so do the right thing people

    • @siyathembasiazmatshaya7074
      @siyathembasiazmatshaya7074 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Were they injured in a war?

    • @Lunga3
      @Lunga3 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Stubborn Mbeki never apologized for killing our relatives through refusing to release ARVs, I wonder why does he never arrested for crimes in humanity

    • @siyathembasiazmatshaya7074
      @siyathembasiazmatshaya7074 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Lunga3 Mbeki never poisoned the water or the oxygen,he never infected your relatives with H.I.V
      Even the developed countries were still sceptical about ARVs,who we are as South Africa to be sure that these things were going to work,even today ARVs are issued for free but our hospitals 85 % of patients that are lying in these beds are ARV and PTB defaulters.
      Ppl today dnt want to go to clinics and take their medications,today condoms are for free ppl dnt want to condomise but still want multiple sex partners.

  • @krisndove6749
    @krisndove6749 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    He's claiming to be perfect

  • @bhamuzarodrigues5983
    @bhamuzarodrigues5983 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    My president JZ, I only remember him reading a script saying 'in the beninging, in the......beni.. benini....in the beninging.'🤣

    • @malusilinganiso3862
      @malusilinganiso3862 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mna I remember uBra Mbalula ethi parents must go to school and children must go to work eqhunye zidrugs 😅

  • @nonhlebixa2928
    @nonhlebixa2928 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Mbeki is full of wisdom, i wish they truly gave him a full chance not rushing to destrone too early

  • @katoleeric4454
    @katoleeric4454 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    So mbeki say is not going to campaign for anc now what 😢😢

    • @WinkieMabija
      @WinkieMabija 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Some of us ANC is in our blood not the individual pls don't insults us🙏

    • @samkelisiwecarolmlambo8231
      @samkelisiwecarolmlambo8231 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He was undermining MK....ha ha ha ha shame and we are waiting for 29 May will take ANC out..😂😂whether they like it or not🙅‍♀️

    • @sabelozuma9211
      @sabelozuma9211 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He is procting his wive we know.... So we don't need to waste time for this.....

    • @ntombizethumbatha195
      @ntombizethumbatha195 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@WinkieMabija KANJANI? NAFELWA THRU YONA. Im sorry for that but we are suffering its no longer serving us.

    • @WinkieMabija
      @WinkieMabija 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ntombizethumbatha195 u quite ryt we suffer under Zuma2 🤭

  • @LonwaboMiggels221
    @LonwaboMiggels221 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    SABC can give anyone who hate Zuma platform it will not change that people love Zuma

    • @thuladumakude2511
      @thuladumakude2511 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      SABC!?

    • @LonwaboMiggels221
      @LonwaboMiggels221 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes Thula

    • @busikhoza7903
      @busikhoza7903 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Meaning it's a futile exercise to try to stop Zuma.

    • @BronxWavy
      @BronxWavy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@busikhoza7903 Can Zuma legally be president for a 3rd term? It seems the CONSTITUTION stops Zuma

    • @busikhoza7903
      @busikhoza7903 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BronxWavy that's the equation???

  • @ChumanaSusi
    @ChumanaSusi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Who in his right mind can really trust Zuma in S.Africa unless they want to destroy our country under Zuma

    • @rosemashiane5898
      @rosemashiane5898 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He cannot be trusted, a lot happened under his leadership.

    • @user-pv7cc9yo9x
      @user-pv7cc9yo9x หลายเดือนก่อน

      Angela Jeffery write a disturbing book title."Anc Plan To Destroy SA"they succeeded well in doing just that.Only two people,Jacob Zuma and his folliw on Cyril Ramaphosa Phala Phala Ramadollar.🫢😯🤦‍♂️

  • @user-uc6qc2tt5f
    @user-uc6qc2tt5f 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The idea that a party should choose it's leader is just criminal, until then we will still suffer in the hands of those we donate our votes to, regardless of who they are.

  • @user-ci7tn2gm8g
    @user-ci7tn2gm8g 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Mr President Mbeki you failed to talk about the Genocide that is happening in DR Congo instigated by Paul Kagane the same folk that is inviting you to a controversial genocide celebration. the genocide that happened in Rwanda it lack of truth and honestly.

  • @qalas7327
    @qalas7327 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    😂 Thabo Mbheki trying to be relevant !! His Cope failed he must not talk of MK. Let him campaign for a dead useless ANC and keep Zumas name out of his mouth.

  • @nhlanhlamanatha8799
    @nhlanhlamanatha8799 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Mbeki was never corrupt to dis day

    • @zumkwana101
      @zumkwana101 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hello, where do you live? no one in the ANC id free of corruption.

  • @user-rt8lf5vf4z
    @user-rt8lf5vf4z 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Since Thabo Mbeki is so brilliant can you please explain to South Africans why is there load shedding on weekends because on the weekend 30 percent of business is closed schools, courts, Machanic and many more so just bare in mind here on the ground we are also observent

  • @nkanyisonkosi5392
    @nkanyisonkosi5392 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Reporting only the negatives about MK will have zero influence .

  • @stephenmachipi9708
    @stephenmachipi9708 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Most of the comments come from a place of disappointment when Mbeki confirms he will be campaigning for his political party, the African National Congress. What were you expecting?

  • @alexmu3542
    @alexmu3542 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Thabo Mbeki is defending the Oppenheimer's interest in South Africa politics

  • @patternaid280
    @patternaid280 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The issues relating to the ANC and Jacob Zuma have in my understanding led to the current situation of confusion as to being a member of a party but campaigning against it. The correct position was that he(Zuma) should have had the decency to step aside before he was even called to, while the deputy pres if the ANC. But the party split into many factions and will die as a result. Leadership must put the needs of the people first but not in the case of Zuma.
    As for a party that will change the political landscape to the point of delivery of services to the people regardless where the reside, no party can ever achieve that. The DA is not capable, all we have to do is look at the Western Cape

  • @khayaliwa6944
    @khayaliwa6944 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If Biden can Lead Mr Mbeki can too bring Mbeki back

  • @thandwasibisi4989
    @thandwasibisi4989 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Mbheki is no1 umgodoyi

  • @thulanisangweni1889
    @thulanisangweni1889 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    But you said you won't compain for thieves.

    • @Dubandlela1
      @Dubandlela1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Old, forgetting and not knowing what he stands for

  • @lawrencemanchild6270
    @lawrencemanchild6270 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why didn't you ask him why he changed his mind about campaigning for the ANC.
    You could have also asked him about the rumors of him forming COPE.

  • @LeonardNgobeni-dr7vi
    @LeonardNgobeni-dr7vi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Former president is correct what kind of south Africa we want

  • @niphodladla4385
    @niphodladla4385 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Retire Old man, you're tired

  • @CaptainGeneral11
    @CaptainGeneral11 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I must be missing something but how are people sticking up for Zuma when he was president for 10 years and didn't do what he says the Mk will do. he had 10 years to do what he says

    • @SidoMadela
      @SidoMadela 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yes You're definitely missing something, i mean a lot.

    • @CaptainGeneral11
      @CaptainGeneral11 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @SidoMadela it's ok to say 'l like zuma, wrong or right. I'm with him' the guy is very charismatic, funny. Entertains and sings very well. But let's not deceive ourselves, his leadership is a direct reason for the downfall of the country and the ANC

    • @malusilinganiso3862
      @malusilinganiso3862 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      2/3 majority sdomu ndini. That gives you enough mp to change umthetho sisekelo stunxa ndini.

    • @thembilephikiso392
      @thembilephikiso392 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ubavala amehlo futhi nabo sebevalekile,naye unomkhuhlane wenkohlakalo,😂😂

    • @njabuloemmanuelmahlangu7188
      @njabuloemmanuelmahlangu7188 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In the captured ANC majority view prevail and therefore how are you sure he was not out numbered because what he is talking about he has said those things in his speeches back then but not supported behind scenes, even when he announced free education he was widely insulated by the very same ANC leaders who have today reversed it

  • @solomonngubeni3667
    @solomonngubeni3667 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Zuma is now giving most of us the reasons to vote for ANC. We have bn waiting for ANC to fire Zuma

  • @JohnNalenk
    @JohnNalenk วันที่ผ่านมา

    Don't let the MA party to form the government with ANC party.

  • @lennyphekani
    @lennyphekani 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Imigodoyi 😅😅

  • @TeeOff72
    @TeeOff72 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    So says someone who said his vote is secret

    • @DumaM-ir7rk
      @DumaM-ir7rk 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dishonest old men

    • @lwazigobodo6840
      @lwazigobodo6840 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Every citizen's vote is a secret. DAH!

    • @TeeOff72
      @TeeOff72 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lwazigobodo6840 everyone knows the narrative

  • @user-uo5lx6pe3q
    @user-uo5lx6pe3q 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thabo Mbeki is the one who told us that anc is full of criminals 😮

  • @lebogangroofmasters4631
    @lebogangroofmasters4631 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    President Mbeki, please come back as President
    - The country needs you.

    • @zumkwana101
      @zumkwana101 หลายเดือนก่อน

      your country, not SA

  • @Ilovedoggie313
    @Ilovedoggie313 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The ANC has operated with so much impunity for too long now. Regardless of who is at the top in this party, the rot is too widespread for this party to redeem itself. The biggest tragedy here, is the killing of a dream, all because the cadres have been feeding like pigs at the trough!

  • @user-xy2vv3ut3w
    @user-xy2vv3ut3w 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    ANC IS WINNING LANDSLIDE KANT EN KLAAR🖤💛💚✊

    • @Simi962
      @Simi962 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dream on, and don’t wake up. 😂😂😂😂

    • @TheJonno696
      @TheJonno696 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      KANTS. KLAAR🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @MirriamSofe-yj9pq
      @MirriamSofe-yj9pq 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Landslide victory nationally But provincially,a HUGE 🗻 to climb😢😢😢😢

  • @MasterMandlaSibambo
    @MasterMandlaSibambo 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Comrade Mbeki, I think we need to have a Forum where we vigorously look on what is a difference between comrades who fought against apartheid internally and those who went exile.

  • @louismzobe3073
    @louismzobe3073 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Comtaotsis Only people who lived in sa in the 80s will understand that jargon

  • @BronxWavy
    @BronxWavy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    MK will have do better than EFF's 1st year campaigning elections, 😂 which will not happen

    • @Coco-kw3iv
      @Coco-kw3iv 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Dream on...we like it when you fulls underestimate MK.

    • @SgubhuMkhize
      @SgubhuMkhize 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      that's not the case sir/ madam, it's just that Msholozi is exploiting our tribalism. Unfortunately some traditional Zulus look at him only as a Zulu man not the character of a man

    • @BronxWavy
      @BronxWavy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SgubhuMkhize agreed

    • @BronxWavy
      @BronxWavy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Coco-kw3iv you are dreaming because numbers don't lie

    • @Coco-kw3iv
      @Coco-kw3iv 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SgubhuMkhize uyabheda wena. Aphi amaZulu e Eastern and Western Cape for an example? Why did we qualify to be voted there?

  • @nanobing2691
    @nanobing2691 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    MK should be competing with IFP and stop day dreaming.

    • @siphosakhemajola9136
      @siphosakhemajola9136 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If that's the case ANC must stop being obsessed about MK

    • @samkelisiwecarolmlambo8231
      @samkelisiwecarolmlambo8231 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You guys scared of MK and you make me laugh🤣😂...you must understand that we are going to vote MK either you like it or not..ANC will be out by 30th of May...

    • @malusilinganiso3862
      @malusilinganiso3862 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      9.7 million members in 3 months can't compare and compete with 400 000 members in 60 years baba vuka.

    • @nanobing2691
      @nanobing2691 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@malusilinganiso3862you smoke too much crack that's your problem

    • @nanobing2691
      @nanobing2691 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@samkelisiwecarolmlambo8231It's your right to vote, nobody is stopping you, but remember Shaka Zulu is dead 😭

  • @dumisaninxumalo7574
    @dumisaninxumalo7574 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The guy who said he wont campaign for criminals now is going to campaign for the ANC.Was that not campaigning against the ANC criminals

    • @simphiweclement4656
      @simphiweclement4656 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      People who like Mbeki are thoughtful and middle class, don't bother yourself with cheap propaganda...we not vagrants like Zumaists

    • @dumisaninxumalo7574
      @dumisaninxumalo7574 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@simphiweclement4656 And that statement has just made you think you are very smart.Yet matric is difficult to finish

  • @CyrilMphanga
    @CyrilMphanga 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The more Thabo Mbeki talks the more he soils his legacy. I used to like him a lot, but the more I learnt about the ANC and heard him provide cover for them is the more my respect for him dissipated.

    • @ndamanekandamanei1965
      @ndamanekandamanei1965 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Surely u wouldn't like to retain imbeciles in your support group. Would you?

    • @ndamanekandamanei1965
      @ndamanekandamanei1965 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's doubtful that this global icon would enjoy your respect. Keep it.

    • @CyrilMphanga
      @CyrilMphanga 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ndamanekandamanei1965 and yet here you are supposing that your thoughts are valuable enough to share here.🤦😂😂

    • @ndamanekandamanei1965
      @ndamanekandamanei1965 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CyrilMphanga sometimes these mirrors can be deceiving... don't u think?

    • @hlumelodiniso
      @hlumelodiniso 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He has condemned state capture, & distanced himself from Mr. Zuma's tainted presidency.
      His was'nt a perfect presidency too, it had obvious obstacles, & HIV-AIDS matter has left an indellible mark on his legacy.
      However, his leadership built a solid foundation for South Africa, one that required Mr. Zuma to proceed with the work. He did not.
      Sadly, Mr. Zuma's failures have become a lense through which we judge ANC's perfomance since 1994, rather than 2009 when he took over-a framework i find unjust & flawed, for, despite many failures under ANC, there has been great achievements under their governance...
      Especially when Thabo Mbeki was both the deputy president & the president of South Africa.

  • @mphothulo7929
    @mphothulo7929 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Mbeki speaks for others when they are in jail but never said anything about Zuma in jail,is it a long time hatred

  • @zukied4817
    @zukied4817 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I personally think it's unfair to label DA as not trusting IEC, who does really?
    I don't trust IEC myself, and I would have done what DA did, and I'm sure something will be exposed and DA will be vindicated..

    • @delanikhumalo2221
      @delanikhumalo2221 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Because the same DA got sponsors in US, why it should where their funders are there? And what if all the parties choose to go and invite their all favourite countries?

  • @BennyNcube-jc1tj
    @BennyNcube-jc1tj 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You know there is negatives in ANC

  • @leboramoreboli7950
    @leboramoreboli7950 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    He himself said ANC re Mkodoyi

  • @user-yo9lq3uv6h
    @user-yo9lq3uv6h 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I still wonder what is it that makes people to join MKP I just need someone who can explain to me.

    • @PhumeleleSibeko-lu4cz
      @PhumeleleSibeko-lu4cz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Is like asking that question to a phara after having taken a pool of his or her zolo.🚬😂😂VIVA Anc Viva!!

    • @malusilinganiso3862
      @malusilinganiso3862 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@PhumeleleSibeko-lu4czhahhahaah nguwe kanye addicted viva anc yamasimba? Ilizwe litshabile ngenxa yalemigulukudu. Inesibindi sokuthetha ngepool zenyo yakho mxm.

    • @user-fq6lm5bo9h
      @user-fq6lm5bo9h 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Because is our choice and is a new party sesicikekile ANC isihlukumeze kakhulu isimbele amathuna siphila amasela odoti asiliboni elinye qembu hope phendulekile

  • @user-iu9ir9xq4v
    @user-iu9ir9xq4v 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Otata umbeki siyKukhumbula 🎉🎉❤❤❤

    • @mafungwase8072
      @mafungwase8072 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hayi! Ungasibali thina tuu. Awukahle bo!!

    • @samkelisiwecarolmlambo8231
      @samkelisiwecarolmlambo8231 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Umkhumbula wedwa🖐🏼

    • @zumkwana101
      @zumkwana101 หลายเดือนก่อน

      speak for yourself, please

  • @ChumanaSusi
    @ChumanaSusi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Zuma is not a character not worth an iota of being a president of S.Africa going by the dirty dealings he was involved in during his presidency

    • @Marysmmiiith
      @Marysmmiiith หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Zuma the Scooby-Doo

  • @Tamsanqa-dv2tq1cy4t
    @Tamsanqa-dv2tq1cy4t หลายเดือนก่อน

    Honourable Mbeki,you are quite right but there are young people who now take stand to fix South Africa and have answered your question of what kind of a country we want.Vote arise south Africa.

  • @TSG0195
    @TSG0195 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Zuma can do whatever he likes with his life and Mbeki must just get a life and mind his own business. We are now told that his wife is a billionaire, one wonders where she made all that money if not through Mbeki's connections (corruption). Mbeki must stop trying to improve his rotten legacy through badmouthing JZ

  • @ericmurudzwa1920
    @ericmurudzwa1920 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Zuma wants to be buried by ANC that's why he keeps one foot inside and the other one scouting for uneducated ones for lost support. RIP MK party.

  • @pieterswarts2830
    @pieterswarts2830 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is there anyone that can give us an idea who chose the IEC is it the Anc or do they consist of representatives of all the parties in SA in order 2b transparent fair and without corruption

  • @KwaneleTyatya-ws6pd
    @KwaneleTyatya-ws6pd 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have great respect for this great intellectual and giant of Africa! He is aging now his ideas are great. A man of integrity.

  • @busikhoza7903
    @busikhoza7903 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Even if you say that, you still know that Zuma was the best of all of you combined together .

    • @bhamuzarodrigues5983
      @bhamuzarodrigues5983 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      you are a clown🤡

    • @lizzyndlovu5843
      @lizzyndlovu5843 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      are you serious busi?

    • @Qotha
      @Qotha 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yes he was the best especially for native South Africans

    • @Kissmadolo
      @Kissmadolo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@Qotha how come ? because during his reign there was rampant corruption , himself with the Guptas who as of this day they don't want to come back and defend themselves, remember their aircraft landed in an airport reserved for presidents only, during Zuma's reign. Don't talk about the economy because it was just downward spiral, no growth.

    • @DumaM-ir7rk
      @DumaM-ir7rk 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @ lizzyndlovu5843 you must ask yourself why DA want Americans to interfere in our democracy. ANC was in power and I have never seen DA panic and asking for the international community to help. Not even EFF has shaken DA . This tells me the true democracy will come with Jacob Zuma and he is the only black men who stand with the natives

  • @munsmoodley9374
    @munsmoodley9374 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    He is correct.In fact he should say more about mk that’s threatening violence. Army and police must be geared up.

    • @deonmfeka5820
      @deonmfeka5820 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You are clueless and Dumb

  • @matthewsngidi5833
    @matthewsngidi5833 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    We can't go on to vote for the anc with the none performance of 3 decade it's ridiculous

  • @thabomalefane8552
    @thabomalefane8552 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Correctly so my Leader, Mr Zuma is out of the ANC, case closed. He must just focus his strength on matters of the MK yakhe. ANC will continue to govern SA with integrity, bring about stability and grow the economy.

  • @user-wj8vz7bo5c
    @user-wj8vz7bo5c 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    MK for life ❤

  • @Itssophie277
    @Itssophie277 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Leave Zuma alone, concentrate on your cope.

  • @user-wy9pe7po6y
    @user-wy9pe7po6y 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Its amazing to hear about how some people are labelling their opponents as dissidents while they consider themselves as saints,who is being fooled here?????

  • @kaizersuze9000
    @kaizersuze9000 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Gents learn from our mistakes never trust a comrade 😂

  • @Coco-kw3iv
    @Coco-kw3iv 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    We are still going to vote MK. Go dance in the rain

    • @josiahmanganyi6917
      @josiahmanganyi6917 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Don't say we!Say you will vote for MK!I will never vote for a stubborn president including the EFF president!I rather vote IFP as a shangaan!It is a party that gives me hope now especially reading their manifesto about the death penalty and dealing with illegal foreigners and borders!

    • @zicodasilva1496
      @zicodasilva1496 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      hamba juba lami bayokuchutha phambili

    • @Coco-kw3iv
      @Coco-kw3iv 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@josiahmanganyi6917 im saying WE myself together with those likes and the rest of approximately 10 million MK membership... How about that? You should not respond on my comment if my comment doesn't concern you. Finish!

    • @Coco-kw3iv
      @Coco-kw3iv 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@josiahmanganyi6917 go and vote for IFP it's not my business and I didn't ask you. Uyaphapha nje. IFP has sold out long time ago. You guys allow hate to rule. IFP's handlers is Oppenheimer tell me what black people get from those people? Do you even know how was IFP formed? Do you how many black people were murdered by IFP? Do you want me to go on and on???

  • @ernestsmith4752
    @ernestsmith4752 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Mk will go the same way as all others who broke away from anc eg.pac.udm.cope .mk will become irrelevant

  • @urbansiblings1565
    @urbansiblings1565 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The best president, the ANC and SA ever had.

    • @pinkieluthuli5125
      @pinkieluthuli5125 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Do you mean Mbeki was the best get your fact straight Mandela betrayed Hani with Mbeki

  • @stanleynkosikamthembu168
    @stanleynkosikamthembu168 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Only one metric for me in as far as what political parties must focus on to drive RSA out of the quagmire it is in: DEPORTATION NOW for illegal foreigners. Ensure the resetting of RSA is people-centered with no SAN left behind.