Repairing the Grade on a Model Railroad Layout

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  • @RonsTrainsNThings
    @RonsTrainsNThings  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    See how I build the benchwork to my layout in this video: th-cam.com/video/HEpXApRA13g/w-d-xo.html

  • @willsagraves6535
    @willsagraves6535 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Your building videos have been super helpful! I'll be starting my permanent shelf/wall layout soon and these videos have become a great resource. Looking forward to seeing what you do next!

    • @RonsTrainsNThings
      @RonsTrainsNThings  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm excited to hear that, Will. Good luck with the new layout.

  • @tubeflorian
    @tubeflorian 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Editing is excellent. Thanks for taking the time.

  • @charleslowery7914
    @charleslowery7914 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good point about the liquid nails project. I have been using that as my foam adhesive for a while but didn't realize how strong it was until I needed to remove the foam. Took pry bars and a lot of destruction. Lol

  • @dwightatnorthernstar1820
    @dwightatnorthernstar1820 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes, Ron, THAT is really important thing to do before laying track. Many derailing issues could be avoided if the layout base is level BOTH ways, so the track is not cockeyed which many cannot just see. I have solved many Derail issues by going back and fixed that issue.

  • @N-Scale
    @N-Scale 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks Ron , you are making good progress , for sure.
    Mike

    • @RonsTrainsNThings
      @RonsTrainsNThings  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you, Mike. I am really looking forward to getting this industrial district up and running, not to mention getting trains running across the whole layout again.

  • @anthonymcmillan5881
    @anthonymcmillan5881 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for your detailed explanations.
    Thanks, Iowa fan

  • @JoeG-firehousewhiskey
    @JoeG-firehousewhiskey 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Very nice, I like the level! Definitely a must have.

    • @RonsTrainsNThings
      @RonsTrainsNThings  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, a regular level is great, but this one that tells you exactly what your grade is fantastic for controling sharp grades and keeping them smooth.

  • @mlkesimmons758
    @mlkesimmons758 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ron. You make very informative videos. I have always made it a point to screw everything together in a way that it can later be unscrewed. Recently I needed to remove a joist to install a turntable and found that a screw joint was covered by bench work. The joist had to be split with a chisel and ripped out. I still need to find a way to cut off the pertruding screw. The screws on top were easily located under flat scenery using a magnetic stud finder. I suggest you avoid placing screws that will eventually be covered by road bed and track. I am looking forward to your next great video.

    • @RonsTrainsNThings
      @RonsTrainsNThings  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Mike. That is a good suggestion. In the case of this cleat, I wanted it as much under the track as possible to make sure the surfaces were flush at that point. That said, can you access the screw that needs cutting with a multi tool (oscilating tool) with a metal-cutting blade?

    • @mlkesimmons758
      @mlkesimmons758 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RonsTrainsNThings Ron. Thanks for your reply. A multi tool may be just the answer to reach my hard to get at old screw. In the case of your cleat, perhaps a bit larger cleat installed at an angle would solve both problems of a flush surface at the joint and no screws hidden under the roadbed and track.

  • @jamescraft672
    @jamescraft672 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I use 2" foam for the subroadbed. It is strong enough to support a large person (like me). And it makes it easy to manage vertical curves.

    • @tubeflorian
      @tubeflorian 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I chose 100psi. I could park a real loco on it.

  • @rjl110919581
    @rjl110919581 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    thank you for detail video on way your build your detail layout

  • @MrBsHiawathalandRails
    @MrBsHiawathalandRails 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great help. We don't think about that at times.

    • @RonsTrainsNThings
      @RonsTrainsNThings  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, sharp verticle curves can cause real problems and, if you don't check for them, they can happen without even realizing it.

  • @johndillon8130
    @johndillon8130 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good info, thanks Ron!

  • @donaldshroyer8633
    @donaldshroyer8633 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice vid.
    I've used much thinner plywood on my N scale layout to make track mounting by pins easier, only to have some warping problems. I'm surprised to see that warping still occurs with the thickness you used. Wow.

    • @RonsTrainsNThings
      @RonsTrainsNThings  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I used 1/2" and the warping is usually quite minimal, but it does happen. 1/4" will certainly warp all too easily.

  • @jolliemark6294
    @jolliemark6294 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good advice on all accounts, just a small hint, I've been using a percentage tool on my phone for grades, but that level looks to better....thanks for sharing 👍👍

    • @RonsTrainsNThings
      @RonsTrainsNThings  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've seen those apps on phones. I had one several years back and was not impress with its accuracy, but both apps and phones have improved drastically since then. I should check out another one. Which app are you using? Iphone or Android?

    • @jolliemark6294
      @jolliemark6294 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RonsTrainsNThings android the one I'm using is called -bubble level-

  • @kennybroomfield8402
    @kennybroomfield8402 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ron you should have shown the sanding action. I think it would have been......smooth. 😂😂 Looking good as always my friend.

  • @sparky107107
    @sparky107107 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    when using shims you should put them on either side of where you are putting the screws. most the time a screw will split the shim and over time work there way loose.

    • @RonsTrainsNThings
      @RonsTrainsNThings  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is good advice. It also helps keep the work level.

  • @mikeh4800
    @mikeh4800 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Another really well done video. Should you in the future need to make two sheet of Plywood even using a block of wood and screws, and the screws you were using in the video will not work. Try the deck screws for TREX decking. These screws have two different threads which adds in pulling the boards tight against each other.

  • @1Celltech
    @1Celltech 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Clearance holes in the ply would have made the wood draw together better. A little glue would have made a much stronger joint. Your layout extension is looking great.

    • @RonsTrainsNThings
      @RonsTrainsNThings  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm not sure what you mean by "clearance holes." Please explain.

    • @1Celltech
      @1Celltech 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RonsTrainsNThings clearance holes let the screw pass through freely so that the screw only grips the bottom piece allowing the wood to draw together better. Sometimes if you don't use clearance holes when the screw grabs in both pieces you can end up with a gap between the bottom and top pieces.

  • @IMRROcom
    @IMRROcom 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I went to Lowes today and they looking for those swihs you used to level your railroad pike, Lowes said they did not have swihs. Did you buy your swihs from Home Depot.

    • @davidmcrae5183
      @davidmcrae5183 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I finally understood what you meant by "swihs" when I began to pay attention to the video. Funny!

    • @marksawyer5299
      @marksawyer5299 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I use the composite swihs to avoid shrinking and expansion.

    • @RonsTrainsNThings
      @RonsTrainsNThings  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂😂😂

  • @anthonyciotti3295
    @anthonyciotti3295 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Ron what scale vehicles on N scale layouts

  • @bdhd206
    @bdhd206 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    In many cases using wood putty would provide a more predictable solution to these type grade issues. Using this 1x4 technique many not have worked, now what. Also, I have stopped using the pink extruded foam. Its not flat and undulates across the 4 foot width which causes the exact problem we are trying to fix here. I now used the blue 3M product from Lows. It is extremity flat and dimensionally sound, it's also harder than the pink panther product. Loctite PL 300 is specifically designed for foamboard.

  • @TheTrainFreak
    @TheTrainFreak 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Bullet proof eh? So are you saying I can use it as target practice?....lol just kiddin. Great tips Ron. Also I had an instance where the plywood thickness is a hair thicker on one edge than the adjacent one. I did the same thing with a 1x4 underneath and had to get out my oscillating saw to trim that extra thickness to make it flush. - Jason

    • @RonsTrainsNThings
      @RonsTrainsNThings  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi, Jason. Yes, I've seen that too. For me, I have either sanded it smooth or used a bit of putty or spackle to level out the surfaces, but the oscilating tool is a great remedy.

    • @TheTrainFreak
      @TheTrainFreak 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RonsTrainsNThings i tried the putty, still a pretty bad hump that you can see in one of my latest videos, I am going to have to go back in and fix it. Not looking forward to it.

  • @FBMRR
    @FBMRR 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great update Ron and awesome pick of the week. My only concern with that 1x4 is that your screws will be covered with scenery. if you should ever have to remove that section, how would you remove that piece?

    • @RonsTrainsNThings
      @RonsTrainsNThings  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I can't imagine why I would ever remove it, but worst case, if I did I would simply cut the screws between the two pieces with a sawzall or an oscilating/multi tool.

  • @jacjac5761
    @jacjac5761 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great job Ron how big is your layout now? Can you do a over view of the layout of you don't mind.

    • @RonsTrainsNThings
      @RonsTrainsNThings  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey Jac Jac. I plan to do a new full tour as soon as I get the mainline laid and running on the new section. Should be just a few weeks.

    • @jacjac5761
      @jacjac5761 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ron l didn't get a notification of your video til today I feel bad cause I missed a lot of videos. Now I have to catch up

    • @RonsTrainsNThings
      @RonsTrainsNThings  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jacjac5761 Unfortunately TH-cam's notification system is sketchy at best.

  • @anthonyciotti3295
    @anthonyciotti3295 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Ron what scale vehicles on scale layouts

  • @randydobson1863
    @randydobson1863 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    HELLO RON ITS IS RANDY AND #1 FAN'S THANKS RON FRIENDS RANDY ?????? COOL VIDEO

    • @RonsTrainsNThings
      @RonsTrainsNThings  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey, Randy. Thanks for your comment. I'm glad you enjoy the channel.

  • @anfieldroadlayoutintheloft5204
    @anfieldroadlayoutintheloft5204 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    good update to you layout an keep posting updates up

  • @timjohnson3128
    @timjohnson3128 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A quick fix and old one for the slight "hump" would be to use a wood plane

    • @RonsTrainsNThings
      @RonsTrainsNThings  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If solid wood yes, but that would make a mess of plywood. I think my belt sander will make a neater job.

  • @kadebrown6162
    @kadebrown6162 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    my phone has a digital level feature but the camera sticks out so unless its on
    top of a small block its essentially useless

  • @bneagleriversubdivision6224
    @bneagleriversubdivision6224 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. But if you can avoid it, never put screws under your track. They can back off over time, plus access is a problem.

    • @RonsTrainsNThings
      @RonsTrainsNThings  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey, man. Good to see you. I hear what you are saying, but in all my years of model railroading I'v never had a screw work loose on a layout. There is just no vibration to cause it. That said, your suggestion is probably a good idea nonetheless.

  • @chrisenglish3837
    @chrisenglish3837 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Vertical curves :-) you mean hills and valleys. Really little humps and dips for RR purposes. I personally really like to look of features that break up long straight lines. Clearly sharp edges have to go. If the general rule is to limit a prolonged slope (say a helix) is in the 2% range, its not that a 5% bump is a power or passing issue - you are saying it all about coupler / coupling reliability. Does anybody know or any supplier ever state the vertical play in a coupling - it must be a in the 5 degree range. I enjoyed your video on easements, any similar analytical guidance on vertical easements?

    • @RonsTrainsNThings
      @RonsTrainsNThings  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, I wasn't trying to say eliminate all verticle curves. If we did there would never be any change in incline. I was saying smooth them out and eliminate those sharp, unintentional bumps that cause our trains to run unreliably.

  • @doublediamondrailroad5949
    @doublediamondrailroad5949 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ordering a Digi level! Check my Existing Grades!

  • @Madonsteamrailways
    @Madonsteamrailways 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    As an Englishman, I have probably never heard the term ‘grade’ used instead of the full ‘gradient’ to mean a slight change of height!! It’s probably because I’m British rather than American!!

  • @daddybearlv
    @daddybearlv 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why are you so concerned with vertical curves? Do not real railroads have vertical curves?

    • @RonsTrainsNThings
      @RonsTrainsNThings  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sure they do, but as Insaid in the video, they can become exaggerated in a model much more than the prototype, just like our horizontal curves are much sharper. They use engineers to control them as well.

    • @BadBadDrivers
      @BadBadDrivers 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Cloud Burst 117 were you just born a dumb ass or did you work real hard on being this stupid. Some people should have the keyboard removed from their computers and surgically shoved up their, If you can not figure it out who this is about, This is you.

    • @RonsTrainsNThings
      @RonsTrainsNThings  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      TH-cam flagged your other comment as spam, but to quote another TH-cam channel:
      "Here to have fun and enjoy the marvels of the modern world.
      No Shades of grey. It's either "Right or its "Wrong".
      A word of advise "Research You Subject", that way you can get it right "First Time".
      Take care All."

    • @tubeflorian
      @tubeflorian 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RonsTrainsNThings I reported it.

  • @jamesbach2021
    @jamesbach2021 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please cut the end off the Liquid Nails container in a different way. Your asking for a trip to the ER.

    • @kents.2866
      @kents.2866 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's how everyone in construction opens them. If your thumb is below the blade, you're good.

    • @jamesbach2021
      @jamesbach2021 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kents.2866 Been in the trades for 30 years. Still got all ten digits