How to double clutch - what is double de-clutching and why would you do it?
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- In this video I explain and demonstrate how to double clutch when changing gears, which is also known as double de-clutching. I also explain why you may need to double clutch and why you don't need to in modern cars. I demonstrate it slowly to allow you to see exactly what needs to be done then I demonstrate it at a normal speed so you can see how fast you will get with experience.
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I’m here cause I’ve been granny clutching too much so I’m here to learn how to double clutch like I should
haha, fast and the furious quote
🤣
Same
Dead 😆
That was funny lol
I like the honesty and conviction he makes the car/machine sounds with. He cares.
In the real world you actually use this to drive something like an American Canadian Australian New Zealand & Finnish Sisu lorries as long they use an Eaton Fuller Roadranger gearbox.
😂 Yes I do care.
@@ConquerDriving Hahaha ❤️
Thanks for sharing your knowledge w/ the world. Your videos are amazing 😄
In my 30+ years of driving manual cars I've never had to double clutch once, even in my old 70's cars, but Rev matching/heel n tow down shifts is extremely important for a number of reasons.
#1 It wears the clutch less. I've had cars with over 200,000km on the same clutch even with regular hard driving.
One guy I knew would only ever get around 30,000kms out of his clutch.
And slipping the clutch on a down shifts sounds absolutely terrible!
#2 Rev matching down shifts stops the sudden weight transfer in the driving wheels and will stop wheel lock up, especially in the wet.
And it's sounds cool blipping the throttle as you downshift into a corner... especially with a noisy V8. 😀
I too enjoy rev matching. Double clutching is a very old art.
I think this whole double clutching is a US/English thing?
People here only drive manual, it's being taught that way with your driving lessons (mandatory).
Personally I sometimes don't even a clutch at all, although that takes a lot of feel and know at what RPM you have to do that.
Rev matching with your throttle saves the clutch, that's all u need to know
Same here OP. I have some muscle delays do things like double clutching can be dicey. I have a 2012 VW Jetta 2.0 5 speed. Has over 200k miles on the original clutch, syncros etc. A mechanic that did a brake flush recently said the clutch was still pretty stiff and seems great for the amount of miles. It's not all highway miles either. In fact I'd commute roughly 90 miles a day in rush hour traffic then work another 4~8 hours delivering pizzas in city conditions and usually left the car running the whole time. Could be my driving and maintenance or maybe it's just a stupid reliable car. 🤔 Actually blows my mind because this car is so gutless that it's nearly impossible not to slip the clutch a bit sometimes when starting in first with the AC off or especially the same but on a hill as this car lightly holds the brakes in such a situation to keep the car from rolling backwards. Not a bad car for a first time learner.
@@p_mouse8676It is an Italian thing because Italians were reluctant to add synchromesh to ordinary cars for reasons of simplicity, weight and cost.
Great demonstration as always! Double clutching can also help prevent the synchros from wearing out when the vehicle is driven aggressively such as frequent quick high RPM shifts. In my experience, double clutching helps the transmission go into gear much more smoothly when the synchros have to work against a large speed differential such as when shifting from 1st to 2nd at or near redline or shifting to 1st while rolling. Instead of the transmission feeling like it's resisting for a second as the synchros do their work, it just slides right in if double clutched properly since the gear speeds should already be very close to synchronized. Definitely a useful skill to have! Just because you don't "need" to do something doesn't mean there are never benefits to doing it or at least learning the skill.
I had someone explain this to me. My car has very long throws and the synchros aren’t the greatest. I got double clutching down fairly quickly and noticed how smooth the gearbox felt and the gear engagement
Honestly now that I’ve looked into it your comment makes perfect sense why my transmission acts like that. I just thought that was “how it was” lol better late than never.
This probably would have helped my old Accord. Good to know now years later
Yeah, annoys me when people say DDC is unnecessary for modern cars with synchro gear boxes
it also helps you not granny shift
As if I'm not trash enough at normal gear changing...
Granny shifting, not double clutching like you should!
That is a quote from the fast and the furious that confuses me, double clutching is slow and not needed in modern cars.
@@ConquerDriving Hollywood
@Jambo ok karen
@Jambo you can say the same about many things eg showing people playing physical sports. There is nothing wrong with showing stuff as long as people are taught to think carefully rationally and with a critical eye. Sadly a lot of people don’t do that and instead just think wow that’s cool I can drive like that 😔 education is key
@Jambo Yes and there is also a world of difference between using improper grammar and being competent.
love the gear grinding re-enactment at 7:10. Fab video - perfectly explained
Mate, have to say, I am not a native english speaker. Quite good, but the way you explain stuff is awesome. Appreciated the lesson.
Your clutch control videos have really helped me especially with the ‘heel up’ when driving slow with clutch control, makes it so much easier. Passed first time today with 4 minors 😃👍
Congratulations! Well done.
Just found your channel, love your clear driving methods, I've been driving 58 years and past my test in a crash gearbox van and my PSV test in a crash gearbox bus and can tell you it was hard to master as every vehicle had different characteristics but very satisfying when you master it. Keep up the good work have just subscribed
well you've been quite a champ about people making the same fast and furious reference. thank you for the video, your videos helped me become more confident when driving.
Your explanations and multiple camera angles are exceptional. Thank you!
Unbelievably clearly and concisely explained. I am extremely impressed. You are an excellent instructor. Well done. Thank you.
Hi there mate. Just another application for double clutching. Any aspiring truck drivers like myself that are thinking of getting an unrestricted licence, double clutching is something you'll need to learn. Specifically for the Eaton fuller 13-18 speed roadranger gear boxes. Even though you demonstrate it in a car it really helped me understand the rev matching and coordination to get it right, cheers mate! It's a little more delayed though in a road ranger as there's a 2 second pause. Eg clutch to neutral .... Clutch to gear. Compared to a car where it's a lot quicker. Another thing is you never fully engage the clutch on a heavy vehicle as all heavy vehicles have a clutch brake. As air brakes and foot brakes aren't always enough to safely stop a heavy vehicle. The clutch input and bite point is about half way down every time you engage the clutch.
This is probably the best explanation I've seen so far. Every other one has been a mess of half cocked diagrams and "theory" with no practical demonstration but this one is perfect. Great job
Shifting from 1st gear at 3K rpm to 3rd while double clutching has smoothed out my shift and improved my traffic light quick take off.
I bought a used 2009 370z with 110,000km as my first manual car. Obviously didn't know how a manual was supposed to feel when I first started driving it but realized after a couple days that the synchros were garbage on 2nd, 3rd, and 5th gears 🤣
The stress of having to learn to drive manual while also being forced to double clutch was interesting but got it down after about a month of practice. Not gonna lie, the extra step makes driving feel a lot funner now that I've got the hang!
Nice car, that sounds challenging.
Fix the synchros or change the fluid. It’s a 2009 car , and even comes with a rev match function!!! That is not acceptable
Lol why not just fix it?
@@N1ckZ expensive and time consuming 🤣 plus literally no point since I can drive around it without any issue now
Very well explained. The ‘60’s cars normally missed out on synchromesh on just first gear.
Explained well in control of the vehicle never really comment on stuff that is how I was taught to drive still always do it. We should all inspire to drive better and have confidence after we pass our test 💯
"Granny shifting, not double clutching like you should"
Almost had you!
Fast and the furious quote.
Correct but talk to an American and Canadian Lorry drivers they're going to tell you Double Clutching
Just watched the movie a few minutes ago
Lmao that’s y I’m here
Sir Richard to the rescue again! Thank you for this video! I got the chance to drive an 1961 mini with weak synchros and because of you I manage to impress the owner by not needing any guidance on how to change gear 😂😂 cheers!
Just helped me figure out why my Suzuki Cappuccino wasn't engaging in lower gears while downshifting. Great video, thank you!
Best video ever! Great and clear concise explanation, whilst all areas covered with brilliant editing showing the pedals and revs. All this in few minutes, which normally takes me a lot longer and often ends up in argument! LOL.
Glad it was helpful!
from south Africa, bro you made things every easy for me, you really know how to explain well.
hi from joburg
Perfect video.
I am training to be and ADI myself, I came across a question about double de-clutching and I had never heard about it before (other than from the fast and furious film)
This video did a really great job of explaining what it is and why we/when we should use it.
Thank you.
dang...that's what i'm waiting for not some nonesense introductions before the main topic like some driving lesson sites on you tube...thumbs up man..😊😊😊😊
passed my test today on the first go with no driving lessons at all. I've been watching channels on youtube such as yours and it's safe to say they're the reason behind my success. thank you 😊
That's great news! Congratulations!
And I wonder why the standard of driving these days is diabolical!
Uhm I don’t believe you?
@@Ashit0sh why would you not believing me impact the fact that what I said is true? if you don't believe it then sure. but if someone is sharing their good news there's no need to shed your own negativity on it if you don't have anything nice in mind
@@inthebackwiththerabbish did you drive with your parents then?
Thanks for making this video, i have tried to find a good video that explains this and your video was the best i could find, it was really simple and easy to understand.
Glad you liked it!
I have a worn 2nd gear syncro and shifting back to 2nd gear it grinds if im not under 1000rpm. I double clutched today with higher revs and it didnt grind at all! Decided to watch your video to know exactly how its done and i'll try to do this more so i can have a smoother drive. thank you for the tutorial!
Thank you for this info and demo! It really helped me... I have a mini and I think the 2nd gear synchronizer might be going out, but this makes it so much easier to get it into second.
Thank you for clearing up this issue! I just got my first manual car and this video explained everything perfectly where other videos just made it confusing. Glad I don't need to stress about double clutching!
You won't have to double de clutch so forget this video, it's not the 1960s!
Great video and like you say unless you have a very old car, you won’t really need to double clutch. What I find far more useful, and you already have a video on this, is blipping the throttle on the down change to match engine speed with the lower gear. This technique is only taught at advanced level (such as advanced driving test). However, it is a very useful tool and creates smooth driving, less jerky down changes and more efficient driving. It DOES takes quite a bit practice though and you should not blip with changing down to 1st gear. This technique also works very well on geared motorcycles 🏍 too.
thats just rev matching hahah its kinda self explanatory. double clutch to rev match downshift will give you a FAT speed boost, might be useful for overtaking quickly
@@ed07722 how is double clutching and blipping fast than just rev matching? Wouldn't it be slower?
Great presentation! I learnt how to double shuffle (same thing?) in an old Mini that had lost syncro on third gear.
I'm only here because I watched a video about the old Fiat 500 and the narrator mentioned that you had to double clutch, which I didn't know what that was. Thank you.
I rememebr reading double-declutching in some old detective novel as a kid. Never heard it again until today. Interesting trivia, probably will never use it myself!
I like your explanation because it is the way i drive. Thanks for this nice Video.
I'm going to apply for a licence soon so I'm learning all these things 👍🏻
Well articulated.
I'm impressed and learned a lot.
Thank you.
You're very good at explaining this mate. Cheers 👍
Thank you for sharing double clutching idea
Great video. Thank you so much. Ill definitely try to adapt those tricks to my driving skills!
Great video! Thanks for explaining syncros
Just wishing you an early congratulations for when you reach 100k subs! Best wishes & thanks for all your great videos
Thank you ☺
Just letting you know dude your videos help so much :)
Thank you! I’m learning how to drive Dump Trucks . This was very helpful. Same idea. Never drove manual before so I’ve been a terrible student so far and scared to get back in.
I’m TH-cam binging today. This video was well explained.
I was a terrible student at a driving school, and I was the only student who did not come from a family of truck owners or truck employees. in fact, driving school was the first time in my life I had ever been on the inside of any truck at all (I didn't even know how to start a truck).
When the day of the actual driving test came, I was one of only two students who passed the test that day. So if someone like me who had never even seen the inside of a truck before going to driving school can get a truck license on the first attempt, then you can do it too.
At least in your case its a dump truck and not an articulated truck, so you don't have to worry about jack-knifing a large trailer while reversing around a corner.
@@angrysocialjusticewarrior aww thank you so much!! I paid for two extra sessions. $400 Canadian later. I go again this week and exam is on the 9th of December.
Thanks for the motivation. Much appreciated 😀
** I almost started with my class 1. Transport. I changed my mind to see how this would go.
Your explanation is lit bro....much appreciated..
Hi! I'd like to say thank you for your contribution in my success of getting my driving licence. I am bilingual and I subscribed to your channel to learn more aside what I am taught here. Best regards from France.
Congratulations!
@@ConquerDriving Thanks☺
This helped you get your driving licence!?
@@rolandrat8913 Not this videos particularly because this video was not out at the time I had my driving exam but I just commented for it is his latest video. I watched almost all of his content for my goal is to learn from other driving teachers to enhance my daily driving experience. Cheers
damn, almost at 100k subscribers!! Early congratulations amigo!
Thank you ☺
I've been driving a manual car for 35 years.....I have never used this technique, and I cannot imagine why I'd ever need it
Very informative and well explained. Reminds me of when my clutch cable snapped and I had to drive home, timing every set of traffic lights to be on green, and made it without having to stop or crunch a gear!
That sounds like a challenging drive!
Love seeing videos on these more advanced techniques! Keep them coming! By the way, have you made any videos on overtaking and gear changes for overtaking? Would be cool to learn some techniques for that.
I have a lane changing video that's worth a look.
This isn’t a racing channel 😂
G just drop a gear and disappear
Excellent demonstration Richard! That is some fantastic double clutching!
Thank you for sharing this video!
Correct me if I'm wrong (and for probably making a massive generalisation!), but I take it that the whole thing of double clutching is one of the reasons you need to be a "better" (i.e. more skilled) driver to properly drive a classic car. I would argue this is probably why there are so many terrible drivers around because they can afford to be lazy in newer cars.
Anyway, I've started going to a lot of classic car shows recently and decided that I fancy getting one at some point which brought me here. I had a vague Idea of the mechanics, but needed an explanation of this double clutching business in preparation and this was just the video.
Keep up the good work!
Generally the older the car the harder it is to drive. People who learnt to drive decades ago would have better car control skills but the roads were much easier back then. Today you need less car control skills but much more road skills.
To put on neutral clutch isn't really necessary as the "difficult" part for the gearbox is when engaging. It is possible to engage a gear without grinding, but the RPM need to be near perfect, this is easier to do on a motorcycle to more sensibility on the throttle and a more "tolerable" gear ratio
it certainly helps and if possible should be done, there's a mechanical difference between the two types of shifts
Brilliant! I thank you for this.
wore the synchro on 3rd pretty bad so this will have to do! thank you!
My dad drove troop carriers in the second world war and he told me about double declutching as he called it.
As a 13 year old, I would help him on his milk round on Saturdays. He would sometimes demonstrate this manoeuvre and allow me to change gear using the gear stick as he double clutched.
First, thank you for your videos on manual driving... they are fantastic. I recently received a car with manual transmission and while I knew the basics I wanted to know more of the nuances about driving one and your videos are perfect for that.
Secondly, a question... why do you blip the throttle when down shift double clutching if that blip doesn't serve as a rev match?
It serves as a rev match for the gears, another blip to rev match the clutch can help but is not necessary as the clutch can rev match itself if you pause at the bite point for a moment. Modern gearboxes have synchros which rev match the gears automatically which is why you don't need to double de clutch in a car that's under 50 years old. Synchros became the norm in the 1970s.
@@ConquerDriving Thank you for the reply and further clarification. =)
Thank you, This has helped me
This is awesome thanks so much mate! Subbed! My mate used to something funky in his Nissan Skyline R33 back in Uni and I was like... what are you doing? And he goes.. yeah I do 2 changes cos it's easier on the gearbox. My dad used to crap on about driving double de-clutch in Army trucks in the 70s. Yet only now am I syncro meshing these concepts together (pun intended) in this video. I'm pissed off coz I never learnt to drive manual and I'm here in my early 30s to start learning so I can get a V8 Holden Ute and hot it up. Midlife crisis style.😅 being the typical beginner I started watching your other video and as soon as you mentioned double declutch I clicked here hahaha 😅
lovely sound demonstration xD
i came to learn to double cutch because i wasn’t familiar with what it was and after watching this ive been double clutching this whole time and i didnt even know it
Thanks for sharing it with us
You're welcome ☺
Hello! I really like your videos, especially when I'm teaching my fiancée how to drive now, and I tend to explain advanced topics in a concise way.
This is an old video, but I hope you'll answer me (or someone who has knowledge). These are theoretical considerations on the construction of the gearbox.
1. Shouldn't a very quick gear change leave the shaft at the same speed as the engine and allow you to change gear straight away?
2. Wouldn't engaging a gear without the clutch, then pressing the clutch and shifting into the next gear work in the same way as a double clutch?
You know your stuff, intricately!
The best teacher!!!
Love the sound effects lol
Same lol. He's so realistic my gosh, I love him.
Man I need more practice with this. You do it so smooth without jerking. 😩
The synchros on my WRX are completely destroyed but I need to do this since I can't rebuild the trans just yet. Need to save up some 💰 first. lol
It's not easier, I don't have much practise doing this myself as I've never needed to very much.
Thanks for that! My first car post test is a Yaris MK2 (with 96k miles) and I've noticed that I need to double clutch on lower gears maybe one time in 50 changes. Good to know what the actual technique needs to be.
Have you ever heard of a worn synchromesh causing a car to get stuck IN a gear (including when the engine is off)?
Ive heard of a hot synchro fusing together when the engine is off and gearbox in gear.
Instructions unclear. My car is now flying
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So I got a 2019 Civic, do I need to or is it recommended to double clutch? I just press the clutch once between gears. I notice some of my gears are little rough when switching. They go in easy, but other times they feel rough.
Like I’m in 3rd, I make right turn uphill, I switch to neutral for the turn, then shift to 2nd to go up and almost always, shifting to 2nd it feels rough to put it in gear.
Some guy on youtube said you should double de clutch when you go down gears new one on me so im glad to find its not needed.
Definitely not needed.
Thanks Richard
By the way this technique is actually common on American Canadian Australian and New Zealand lorries if using an Eaton Fuller Roadranger Gearbox
Very helpful 😊👍
Kindly make a video on how to overtake vehicles on highway and shift lanes
Anyway incredible stuff ❤️
Yeaah that would be amazing
I have a video on lane changes that may be worth a search.
I will search
Although i am looking forward to video on overtaking
Some of the comments on here are unbelievable and obviously people don't know how to drive.
I know how to drive
If that's what u r implying 😂
vw 2015 passat gearbox has double synchros on 1st and 2nd gears for easier gear change. obviously these were the hardest gears to shift into without synchros so at old times I guess they put synchros to these gears first.
My dads 1963 Minvan doesn’t have sincros in, and honestly it’s not difficult to drive, you just have to nurture the car a bit more you have to be “nice” with it and be patient
Interesting, I always wondered what double clutching was
I know this is an old video by now, but still, what does a worn synchro feel like? Based on what he's saying it sounds like I may have driven one. The last learner vehicle I was in used to have a sticky first gear at first, but would become smoother once the vehicle was driven around for a bit. Is that it?
Hi love ur videos really help can u do video on theory test and trying the new one again and the revision stuff aswell ive got my theory coming up and need help thanks
Thank you, I may do this in the future. Although I think focus multimedia app is the best way to learn theory.
Subscribed.. you get it 👍
I watched this this video a couple of months ago now and I thought it was very helpful. A 3rd scenario I can think of is putting into first gear whilst still rolling (maybe 7mph). I recently had to use this in my driving test a couple of times on a hill (and passed!). Do you reckon it's just me and my slightly worn synchros or would that be another universal advantage of double clutching?
Yes it will help with first gear as a lot of cars struggle to select first when moving due to the high ratio the synchro has to contend with. I would prefer 2nd gear at 7mph unless I was staying very slow.
@@ConquerDriving Yeah I guess it's only in slow moving traffic or on steep hills were you may have to use first, otherwise just slip the clutch.
when you go up a gear, why do you release the clutch after going to neutral and don't put it directly into the next gear ?
I've been recently watching Casey Putch videos on driving tips. And its interesting that you've done a video on double clutching.
I'm also learning how to heel toe, but only because the clutch is kind of worn and it dies if I don't give it revs, so I need to keep my foot on top of the break while giving a bit of revs to catch the biting point without stalling.
Funny, this is something I do without thinking. Beautifully seamless gear changes every time, far better than relying entirely on the synchromesh.
I wonder why do you recommend releasing the clutch carefully when downshifting. When I downshift to like 2nd, or IDK, I just drive aggressively - I do that. But in the normal street traffic - if you revs are roughly matched and you're changing to 3rd or higher - you can probably just release the clutch as fast as you want without the car jerking. However, I wouldn't do that on ice or snow, I'm extra careful in "the world without friction" ;) I tested fast clutch release on the 3rd on the snow today (empty road, safe conditions) and it was fine. No jerking, no slide. But first 2 gears - definitely, clutch too fast and it jerks. It's sometimes even happens on 3rd with high revs. It would probably happen even on higher gears if the revs was high enough. But since I drive diesel - I hardly ever use high revs. My particular car doesn't love high revs, it accelerates the best between 2 and 3k.
Hi can someone explain why u need to double clutch when upshifting? I understand double clutch when downshifting but is normal clutch for upshifting enough?
Right on point
nice one lad 👍🙏
You are the best
My dad needs to do this in his classic Fiat 500 out of the 70s. I never heard a chrunchy noise driving along, but the downshifts look like a pain to learn😁
He must be good at it.
Me too! I had to do it in my 70s fiat 500, so much so that it became built in to my muscle memory and I still do it now in my Abarth 595.
Meant to say... This video is the clearest easy to understand that I've seen. Excellent work... I've subscribed!
I'm thinking about buying a 60s fiat 500 and I;m here because I was told you need to double clutch when you drive them!
@@thefantasyreview8709 Great! I hope you find one and will master the double clutching. The old 500's are a rare sight on the road, but many people recognise it and even when they don't they love the shape and you'll get many smiles and waves during drives
This is the technique I learned to drive in the army in the1950's and still use to down shift if I am driving Manual gearbox. In thase days army vehicles did not have syncro gearboxes nor did they have a rev counter. GOOD explanation in the video.
Hi. With double clutching going to lower gear, can i do clutch down, blip throttle (while clutch is down) then switch gear? Or it is necessary to put it in neutral then to lower gear?
I think double clutching is useful in stiff uphills.
With double clutching the gearbox needs to be in neutral for the he throttle blip to do it's intended job.
if you double clutch downshift, the whole point is that you don't have to bring your clutch up slowly for the second time (you don't need to rev match as you've already blipped the gas) therefore its faster than just regular rev matching and means that you'd accelerate faster of you wanted to overtake someone on the motorway.
The first blip is to get it into gear, by the time you've lifted the clutch after engaging the gear the revs would have dropped, a second blip will solve that problem. Double clutching in a modern car is slower, I'd be willing to put that to the test.
Very informative video as always. This may be a random question but I have a question about the clutch in my MX5 Miata. It seems like the biting point is a bit higher than I'm used to, coming from other cars. Is this an issue? What would cause a clutch to have a higher biting point and what are the pros and cons of having a clutch with the biting point lower compared to higher? Personally, it takes me longer to get to the biting point because I keep letting the clutch up and up and it won't even get to the biting point until much later.
My ND MX5 clutch is a bit higher than I'm used to. It can mean it's worn but it also can just be how it is. Many cars have self adjusting clutches now so the bite point doesn't get higher with wear. My MX5 may be a bit higher than usual but only a tiny bit, very close to average. It just takes a bit of getting used to.
@@ConquerDriving You have one too? Nice! Yeah, it just feels a tad higher than my other cars.
It's nothing to usually worry about. If it's really high then there may be an issue. I did a review of my MX5 here: th-cam.com/video/iB0xFXxIsWc/w-d-xo.html
I’ve always just rev matches and that’s what I’m used to and it’s smooth but should I be double clutching too? Not sure if this is just a way to make rev matching easier or it helps the transmission wear
Double clutching is unecessary with a modern gearbox.
what do you think about the stop / start function with the system off drive the car better? that's what I think Keep up the good information .
I keep it off.
I see... So i've been double clutching this whole time. Just learned at this
New stage 3 clutch (DKM twin disc). Since it was installed, i keep grinding 3rd and 4th when I get on it. Is this a reason to double clutch? Been driving manual for nearly 20 yrs, so it's CRAZY hard to change the habit.
Edit: no problems with downshifting