Is It Okay To Skip Gears In A Manual Transmission?
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Is it okay to skip gears with a manual transmission? Ultimately, manual transmissions are designed with flexibility in mind. Inherently they allow for choosing any gear at any time, but that doesn't necessarily mean you should. Of course, and gear you select, you need to make sure that the engine RPM will not exceed redline, and it's also wise to rev-match (or double clutch, if needed), as to not damage your synchronizers or clutch. An unmatched upshift will result in a rough shift. An unmatched downshift can easily result in additional synchronizer wear, as well as clutch wear, and can also upset the balance of the car. That said, skipping gears, when matching engine RPM appropriately, does not cause any harm to the drivetrain, and is completely fine to do.
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Some additional things to think about! First off, obviously you should never downshift if it means exceeding your engine's redline. Also, skipping gears will put an additional strain on your synchronizers, especially for downshifts. Not that double-clutching is required these days (though if done properly, it will save your synchros), but it can help for getting into first gear if you're moving. If you're traveling at say 15 mph/25km/h, and want to be in first, generally the transmission will prevent you from doing so. Let the clutch out, pop the revs up, then clutch in and shift to first - this will often work. Generally not necessary for getting into other gears, again, that's why synchros exist is to ease and allow for that transition. Hope everyone's having a great day!
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I actually came here specifically to say that, about the synchro wear. Going from 5 to 3rd to pass or for a hill is a lot of the reason that the NV4500 will fail the 3rd gear synchro first. Same deal for the second gear on like the Cruze, where people go from 6th down to 2nd for a corner. Worse on the ECO wide ratio trans.
The Cruze has a horrible manual transmission. I hated mine with a passion and after not being able to sell it for months, I took a $3k hit to trade it out.
Short answer, as long you are carefull only wear and tear is the danger...
27Zangle it's fine to drive ('11 eco 1.4t 6MT), but at the end of the day, it's a wide ratio trans that was designed/built with synchros for "normal" ratios, so wear is an issue... I mean, it trashes stock synthetic fluid in 20-30k miles, and should change even amsoil fluid every 50-60k.
Engineering Explained that is the thing though. People, including you, will shift down AND THEN bring the revvs up to match the speed of the drivetrain. You should actually start the rev-match when going out of the higher gear and keep the revs matched as you enter the lower gear and de-clutch.
I like going from 6 to R ( rocket mode )
Mii too
Race mode
lol roasted
You mean Rally Gear?
Racing!
Spoiler ahead: Yes, it's okay.
Thank you
Thanks
Saved me 6 minutes 😂🙏
Thx bud
ofcourse it is honestly i end up doing it every day i have a big ass hill in my yard so i just go into 3rd at the bottom of it because im alcready going 30 mph which is a bit high for my 2nd
For all of those who didnt learned that while driving: yes, its okay and essential too (example: if youre going downhill and youre in 4th gear you can switch to 2nd gear to have stronger engine break and the car slows itself down)
"Essential" not quite more like a convenient get around
Essential I think is the wrong term
In a Truck with 8-18 gears or a tractor with 8-32 forward gears skipping gears really is essential to not get mad and to not slow down traffic that much.
In a car that has 5-6 gears, it usually just is a convenience. For example, I can downahift into 5th at 80 and 4th at 70, sometimes I just let the speed drop to 70 and skip, sometimes I go into 5th and immediatly into 4th. Watching out on my clutch is important to me.
Rev matching while shifting down is the most important lesson to me.
@@SajtosNokedli Nope, I never understood the reason for downshifting with rav matching. Why wear out the expensive gear when I can wear out considely cheaper brake pads.
@@Joseph-eh4rs are you saying you push the clutch, slow down, and then shift? cuz rev matching is designed to not wear out the expensive stuff. you push the clutch, rev, and shift. whats that wearing out?
also what if you dont want to slow down at all? are u gonna slow down to shift just to accelerate half a second later?
I learned to drive in the UK, in a manual transmission car.
In the UK, skipping a gear is called a 'block change', and it was taught to me by my drriving instructor as a standard procedure.
i rarely used second gear in my lessons... mostly just 1st to 3rd right away and second only if not quite fast in incline or ready to turn but cars ahead or something. before stop at red light always just from whatever gear i'm in right to first (after braking ofc)
Well that's nice. I've never taken a driver's Ed class. I was just taught by my father, and took my test from there.
no body gives a sh
@@christophercolumbus8944 You evidently gave enough of a sh to read it and leave a comment.
@@thepenultimateninja5797 no i don't and i don't look like a r tard driving like you people on the wrong side of the road
I've been skipping gears for decades without issue. It's certainly something you want to do after you've driven the car for a while and have a feel for the ratios of each gear. Every car is going to take time to get that feel, especially for rev matching.
Me going full throttle in 2nd gear then skip all the way to 6th to cruise :P
I used to do that on my old renault hatchback cuz the third was so short it rarely was worth using lol
@@thesolidsnek8096 I own a 50cc bike and my first gear is so short that I would have to shift before even turning during an intersection.
Yeah, i usually start with first into second and then from second to fourth if i immeadiatly get on a road with a speed around 40 mph.
@@DustGamezX same
I usually stay in neutral and push the car and get in.. So I can save fuel
Nice little workout too 💪
@@AnonYmous-iz6wl exactly saves your money and your health
IT'S ALL ABOUT SAVING, PEOPLE.
Kollam fury spotted
I don't even sit in the car. I put car in neutral and push it all the way to destination. Zero fuel consumption.👌
I love going from 5th to 3rd gear in a smooth transition when exiting the highway, the most satisfying feeling ever ☺
Same here lol
I love going from 6th to R gear on highway (R= rally mode)
I can think of at least 6 more satisfying feelings.
Or going from 5th gear to 3rd gear to pass a vehicle in a single-lane highway.
Yup 🤷
4th to 2nd is so much of my life haha. Especially where I live. There’s no point to go to 3rd before a turn often.
I skip gears all the time with my 27-speed mountain bike....
Transpower me too... Me too
I skip gears in my 7 speed
Why do you need that much gears?
@@rezwan6613 When going up or down steep hills!
Make sure to rev match
manual transmission, probably the best anti theft car equipement in us
Tony x that's rite
i cant like you more than once my friend...
excellent humor...!!!
lololol...
I heard of a guy who was forced out of his car by gun point and the thief got in, but couldn't drive stick so he took off.
Tony, you have no idea how true that is.... :D
HAAHAHAH
This has taught me more than I could ask for. Really happy to learn about such things without having to go through a rough experience to learn it the hard way.
Short answer:
Yes. It's okay. Just make sure you have enough speed, otherwise you'll stall the car.
Same goes for going high to low. Make sure you've slowed down enough or your revs are low enough otherwise you might damage the engine.
Unless Its a rental car, then you can shift from 5th down to first. The engine will brake. The engine will also break.
Only my 1st and 5th gear works so i have to skip.
Lukas trellstedt that’s fuckedddd😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂
1st and 5th is on the same planetary gear
Oof I’m just imagining the sound of your engine, and it’s not very nice.
I had a vehicle that only one, three, and five worked. It was interesting to drive.
I like going from 1 to 6, because that's good for saving fuel!
Pepe Daily lmaoo
Pepe Daily ROFL...
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Kelvin Klein are you discriminating against a kekistanian you racist.
Pepe - On a very steep downhill you can go from 1 to 6 and take easy on the gas so it won't put much pressure on the engine and drivetrain. But if you do that on a flat or uphill then you will mess up your car
Every European:
*_"Wait, you are not supposed to skip gears?"_*
Oh yeah!
I drive truck (Lorry for you europeans) and if I didn't skip gears empty, I'd take forever and a day to get going. So nah, manual you have to skip if you've got more gears. In pickups and cars, whatever, you've gotta hit the right rpm.
@@diraltmcallister3523 "Lorry" is only used in the UK. Stop thinking the UK is the entirety of Europe.
@@_-Anthony-_ pardon me for not knowing something about something thousands of kilometers away with people I've never met before. Stop bein a stuck up twat maybe bud
@@diraltmcallister3523 why are you making the first lorry comment, like u know what you're saying about euopeans, YOU are the one saying lorry is a european term , it is not, Anthony was correct and polite u are one agresssive little aussie, don't hit a kangaroo , you didgeridoo.
I guess there are many people who haven't driven with a manual transmission. It's great someone is answering basic questions.
I don't get those guys complaining like "Just say yes" ... I mean what's the point of watching videos from "Engineering EXPLAINED" if you don't want the explanation ?
Thanks Nico! :)
Actualy the comments I have seen like that literaly said "make a 3s vid and say yes" and nothing more so they really are not "like you" and do have not the same argument and thinking way than you, that was to those people I was refering (Sorry for the poor english btw)
Tho I think I can get your disapointment about videos like this made for most of common people when you already have good subject knowledge, I personally do not even have my license so I learned a lot just by curiosity with this one ^^ Plus there is a few more details in description and comment posted by the owner you might like, just saying :)
I believe everywhere in Europe you have to take driving test with manual gearshift. And same as this guy from Denmark , we in Croatia also have to do a "first aid test" (which teaches you how to immobilize broken bones, perform cpr, stop bleeding, how to treat acid burns from car batteries etc...).
You could also say,
*'I'm triggered'*
would save us time reading this nonsens
sixfootten thanks for your explanation.
the short explanation is
it was viewersb8
I just always Drive in 1st, I didn't know you had to change gears. Even on the interstate.
The more you know!
thats a very tall first gear 😆😆
When if you car you're driving is a Koenigsegg Regera you're all good!
Tesla driver spotted!
The short story I am about to tell you is 100% true: About 30 years ago I worked in an electro-plating factory and once we had plated our goods we would have to transport them to another factory 30 miles north of us. Because of the regular runs we had to make the factory employed a young HGV driver. After being in the job for a week he complained that the lorry the factory owned was slow, coincidentally the factory foreman was having a fit about the fuel consumption the driver was getting from the lorry. The two issues were solved when it was pointed out to our driver that the lorry had 6 and not 4 gears!
One more tip on upshift skip gears. Be sure to bring your RPMs a little higher first before skipping gears, you do not want your RPMs to be too low either because you might risk lugging the engine.
Rev matching is something i learned in my first month of manual ownership... i miss having a manual. But my options were a 6 speed rio with 6% interest or an automatic soul with 0.99% interest. Went with the money saving option
Kia? Sad
Souls are kinda fun in their own goofy kinda way
Why would you want a manual? Way easier to drive automatic.
@@hamyzschidenfeld3215More control of vehicle
@@hamyzschidenfeld3215 Many reasons:
1. Manual gives you more control
2. manual actually is more efficient to drive (automatic transmission is heavier than manual aka the car will be heavier and use more gas)
3. Manual transmission is way easier and cheaper to fix if it breaks.
4. Depending on a country you may or may not be forced to drive a manual during learning and the tests for driver's license
i like going from 6 to r (race mode)
That'll destroy da transmission
The TeddyBear rocket mode
Lols no it wont. There is a wall while moving that wont let you shift to race mode, Those bastards are saving the fun for themselves
I've been debating this in my race machine (Honda Civic), but I'm not sure these streets can handle the power. Is it worth?
Me too I go from 5th to P for pass
As a german I am shocked by the amount of people that have no idea how to drive a manual. In Europe (no matter where you live) you do your driver's license with a manual. We don't even learn automatic.
In the US, only certain driving schools provide the car you drive. Since manuals are so rare here now, the chances of having to drive one for your test is fairly low. Most driving schools have you provide the car.
Although, if you do drive manual in the US, the chances of your car getting stolen is pretty low. After all, not many people here know how to drive one. The whole point of stealing the car is pretty moot if you can't even get it out of the parking spot.
Vezoy What the other guy said. In America, manual cars are harder to come by unless the cars are too old to daily drive or too expensive for the average person.
You can learn automatic but then your license will be limited to automatics only.
DrICHundrannere If you do your final driving test with an auto, your license will be limited to drive automatic cara only. If you take all your driving lessons in an automatic car but do the actual test with a manual car (complete nonsense, I know), you're allowed to drive manuals as well.
actually it makes perfect sense, because you showed the government official that you are able to drive a stick shift safely during a test situation
I instantly saw the title and got reminded to what my instructor told me on my last lesson - she said “ideally you’re allowed to skip gears when it’s appropriate, such as entering a highway where u need to match the speed of traffic as quick as possible, as long as u get the right amount of RPM for a specific gear”
At first, I didn't understand rev matching on switching to lower gears. Once you mentioned being in gear five and taking a corner that requires gear two, it all made sense. I couldn't have explained it in a theoretical way until now, yet without this video, my intuition would've told me don't release that clutch until the more suitable (slower) speed has been reached.
Right, I’ve discovered that the two options for downshifting (whether skipping gears or not) is either to wait for the car to reach the appropriate speed or to rev match if you want to maintain a similar speed between the higher and lower gear.
I was trying to learn rev matching and kept blipping the throttle after I’d already slowed down to an appropriate speed for the lower gear 😅 And then was taking right hand turns way too quickly because I was trying to rev match and change gears way too late… So now I just slow down for tight turns, but rev match for other situations like speed limit changes, upcoming hills, exit ramps, etc…
Good point. That's about the only reason to downshifting with rev match. But, never understood why people use downshifting to slow down the car say nearing red light when you can use brake and wear out cheaper pads than expensive gears.
@@Joseph-eh4rs the only situation I downshift to slow down the car, two actually, would be either failing brakes or even more breaking. I had one situation where the second gear at like 50kph or so definetly saved my ass from crashing into another guy randomly changing into my lane as brakes alone probably wouldn't've been enough lol
@@Joseph-eh4rs Rev matching is an essential skill.
Same as motor-braking. It doesn't "wear out expensive gears". But your brakes wear out and they might also overheat and start to fade, especially on descends when your vehicle is heavy.
Americans be like "lol what's a gear"
Lol
I only know Top Gear bro
And what makes you say that, don't believe any Americans race? Or actually drive manual transmission?
Auto pilot is almost here.
Lol
Spoiler: u cant skip leg day
Have leg day today, thanks for reminding me :(
you can... you wont die, you'll just be a bit top heavy.
Josip, its gonna make standing on your head way easier.
Ice ZnX maybe you cant coz u merican..
ok /fit/
When shifting down, we also have to be carefull not to over-rev, that is, going over the engine revolution limit, risking damaging the valves and pistons.
In short keep on that clutch for a few seconds before lifting it out
If you know the car and the street it definitely makes sense, especially on a decline.
I live in a very hilly area and I'm going from 2nd to 4th or 3rd to 5th all the time to get up to speed and then slowly rolling down the hill on low rpm.
Also when overtaking trucks, getting up to like 80 km/h in 3rd, then changing into 6th to keep cruising.
"2nd DOWN to 4th" You're confusing me.
Ok 2 then longtiditudually south towards the rear of the vehicle towards 6 o clock into 4th
Edit probly confused you more with the 6 o clock
I know I’m super late, but he was saying down in reference to the engine revs, not the gear itself.
It was poor choice of words. He said both "2nd down to 4th" and "4th down to 2nd".
@@gwcrispiyeah that was super confusing
I like to go from 3rd to (R) "Race" and do a fly by
Jeff domner wrong gear, idk how you even got the car in reverse, mythbusters tested it, no good
thats the joke
You do know that its impossible to put it in reverse while driving right ? The only way thats possible is in a really old car, or when you drive slow enough. (and even then it shouldnt because off safety) real old cars sometimes did not have the safety.
It also doesnt really doesnt much because there is a safety (you would know if you actually watched it) They even put it in park but still nothing happend. Same goes for manual gearbox its impossible to put it in reverse because of the safety.
Also it was a joke which is already pointed out.
Well, you are gonna do a fly by... xD
but remeber to put it in 1st to come into first place when racing i've put it into 2nd when was at the finish line and ended up in second place ill never forgive myself because it was for pinks
Been driving a tractor, that has no synchronization in the gearbox, so upshifting and downshifting on the go is an art (doing it with no grinding noises when shifting).
Great insights, your overviews rock. I have a 2001 Honda Civic EX Vtec manual. Has 250,000 miles on it. After all these years, I have downshifted occasionally, skipped gears if needed, and upshifted quickly. This car has handled like a sports car on all the major grades of the west, for example: Tehachapi Pass. The clutch has never been touched (nor has engine), works as new. I feel with prudence, and in a well designed vehicle, all will be well, just enjoy your ride.
I just wish I could buy a 2004 Renault Twingo with all the extras. Used of course but I could go camping with that mini car, has enough space for sleeping for a fat guy like me even. That is my wish from life yet that car type is near extinction due to rusting in my country, which is sad.
I know it might not be as common in the US because most of the places where you drive are pretty flat, but I was taught here in Colombia that if you're going to start from a standstill, and you're gonna be going downhill, you can start from second and even third gear, because the hill will help you with the rest, and you won't really be wearing the clutch.
Yep, on declines, especially if steep, makes it easy to start in second. Simply letting off the brake means you start rolling, and get up to a speed where letting out the clutch is no problem.
Engineering Explained 2nd is useful on snowy roads aswell..
This is also how you start a manual transmission car if the car starter is broken or your battery(on diesel cars only) is dead.
bios47 works on gassers also
Engineering Explained
Is a manual truly more fuel efficient vs auto?
Question- more fuel efficient to- A) Floor it from zero to speed limit, then cruise or B) Slowly accelerate until the speed limit, then cruise?
Im interested in that question too! I think B is slightly more efficient.
Zachary Garcia I've read in instruction manuals of several cars to never floor the gas. I'm pretty sure the best way is to try and get the speed up as fast as your car can manage without flooring since it saves the most gas.
Please answer this!
High acceleration to reach speed limit is more fuel efficient than slowly accelerating up to speed.
its B. There is a reason why the prius and other hybrid cars want you to accelerate slow.
awesome, great info to know considering i got my first manual two months ago and have been skipping gears and wondering about all of this.
glad to know i havent done anything wrong haha
"If you downshift without rev matching, you might lock up the wheels." Makes me think of how I used to play Daytona USA in the arcades.
Tsuchia would call that "Shift Lock" drift initiation.
I always skip gears
Same, especially upshifts.
And sometimes in stop signs i forget to put back 1st and start moving again in 2nd, car does just fine, it just takes more clutch play and gentleness
Vincent - It's not good for the engine. It will put more stress on the pistons/rods in the engine and can eventually break...unless you are going to take very easy on the gas and let it accelerate very very slowly then it would be OK but not practical. Better to shift gears 1,2,3,4,5, and 6. Also avoid using 6th gear if you drive slowly in the city in heavy traffic. Leave it in 5th gear or even 4th. Takes a little more gas but easier on the engine.
IamAnoobiecheez LOL WHAT DUDE
I skip gears in the scenario where i've accelerated quickly, hence being in a average higher rev range, then want to start cruising at 55, so i might skip 3rd and 4th by going from 2nd to 5th. As long as you let the revs come down, the car should not know the difference vs a 4th to 5th shift as far as wear goes. I'd say you save a bit of standard wear n' tear by requiring 2 less shifts. Again in this scenario, i don't see any drawback or putting more stress on anything (outside of revving the engine higher to initially accelerate - but we all know that's not as good for the car as babying it at 1500rpm)
6-spd in the city be like, 1, 2, 6.
I like going from 6 to N (nitrous mode)
HoeLeeFuQQ *nitrous mode*
Gas mode
I prefer 6 to R (race mode)
Thuarakan SJY lmao 😂😂😂😂😂👍🏽
HoeLeeFuQQ i prefer 6 to P ( Power )
I like the second to four shift, as he says you have to wait a bit for revs too drop. I'll usually put into third then fourth, without letting the clutch out, saves the syncros.
That forcing into 4th thing is on the manual Challengers as well. There's a skip shift eliminator you can get that plugs in between the harness and the trans to do away with it without throwing any codes.
Thief: nice car! Lets get it
Manual transmission: *are you sure about that*
I read the second part in John Cena's voice. 🤣🤣🤣
@@CrestedSaguaro520 same
You say that but the guy stealing your car draves that beat up 94 manual honda accord
@@EpicTacoSenpai hmm.. drave?
Let me put it in race mode just in case the cops get called
I used to shift 1 2 5 in my 87 Accord because it realy needed the revs to accelerate, but 2nd was good for about 55MPH, so around town I could get done shifting sooner. 5th to 3rd was common, and 1235 was common when getting on the highway. One trick I sometimes did was to brake and corner down to about 50 or 20, then drop it into 2nd or 1st. The extreme engine braking would cause the tail to kick out (because FWD), then floor it when the car was pointing the right way. I could make a 0-point U-turn on a two lane street this way. It was not quite stock. I had a center force clutch, Jackson Racing struts, brembo rotors and performance friction pads. Oh yeah, Yokohama AVS A+4 tires. But the engine and transmission were stock, as were the rear brakes which seemed to have been just along for the ride because the linings were still fine at 250k miles. I think I changed about 8 clutches, 5 sets of half-shafts, more sets of front brake pads that I care to remember and at least 5 or 6 sets of tires. I thrashed that car and it only failed to get me where I was going 3 times. I lost a water pump at about 20k, a battery at about 2 years, and a radiator exploded at about 175k.
I skipped gears all the time. I don't think I had clutch wear, considering I allowed the engine to rev a little higher and went directly into a gear, My car did not lurch, and it moved forth normally. When downshifting quickly, such as what you mentioned a 5th to 2nd scenario, you would be applying the brakes to decellerate and should be releasing the clutch once you're at your desired engine speed, which can be monitored by either mph and rpm.
Short answer,
*well.* *_yes_* but actually *_no_*
was hoping he'd say something I didn't know, but everything he said is common sense to anyone who knows even the basics of what a clutch and gearbox do
Wrong. It is okay.
@@_-Anthony-_ depends, sometimes it can be bad to skip a gear, But if you are cruising and you go to N and then to 2nd after a while then thats fine
When can it be bad then?
To sum up the video; Don't down-shift on a car you don't know the typical rpm for each gear. So, not on a brand new car and not on a car you are borrowing.
And for upshifting, don't do it up a hill
Sigmund Trutt How are you gonna drive without downshifting? And same for shifting uphill?
Wiikendz I think he meant don't skip gears when downshifting
Jacob Greenway Doesnt work that way either, people who drive manuals will know.
Well you don't need to know the exact RPM for each gear. All you need to do is be close. Lets say you are in 4th going 35mph, the RPMs are at around 1800. You decide to downshift into 2nd. The required RPMs for second at 35mph are around 4200. You don't rev match and instead use the clutch to speed up the engine. That is bad. Say you're smart enough to blip the throttle and it revs to 3800. You are only using the clutch to speed up the engine 400 RPM. Not great you'll feel it but it is still acceptable. Even if you over shoot it say you rev to 4600. It takes less energy to slow down the engine than speed it up. The point is you can safely rev match a new to you vehicle. You can typically get a feel for the RPM difference between gears the first time you go through them, the rest is fine tuning. My point being, as long as you are in the RPM ball park for a gear you are dramatically reducing the wear on the clutch.
Anyone else have a funny step in their gears? 1 to 2, 2 to 3, 4 to 5, and 5 to 6 have the same amount of RPM drop from one to the next, but 3 to 4 is about half as much RPM drop which totally fucks up the rhythm. '12 Honda Cr-Z
Great info. Really enjoyed the video. Makes driving every day a bit more fun as well!
It's perfectly OK. When shifting to a higher or lower gear the transmission doesn't know which gear you coming from, so it's ok and safe skipping gears as long as the car is moving at a speed matching the gear
you make it sound like ultra complex .... but once you drive for some time you feel your car and you kinda do all that by default.
Ultra complex? A 5 year old could understand all of this.
@@sjoerdvelzen8255 I can assure you that most 5 year olds would not understand this.
@@sjoerdvelzen8255 5 year olds don't understand zebra's..
@@DustyyBoi you don't understand apostrophes :D
@@huawafabe I use the swipe feature to type so that's autocorrect not me
About the last part: some cars (like my Accord) almost always won't let you select 1st unless you're completely stopped, so I have to use 2nd if I'm going 5 miles an hour.
Dell0304 my civic si does the same thing
Yeah, my old Mitsubishi Eclipse was the same way too.
Dell0304 thank you ive been wondering about that im going to drive a manual soon
yes the car will roll without any input until the gas runs out in second gear, if it's flat at least.
My Mazda rx8 will let me but i have to give a good amount of force to enter first gear under 5mph. So i just use 2nd most of the time.
In the UK automatic is the rare one so we learn about this from our instructors, including pulling away in 2nd downhill and leaving the car in 1st/reverse with your wheel locked toward the curb as a backup to the handbreak on a very steep hill.
Yes. In fact it's advised going down the box and up, especially if you use a low gear to get to speed and then select a higher one to maintain it. Unnecessary changes are distracting and increase driver work load to no benefit.
it's all about clutch play and rpm matching great video
;>
Exactly.
and knowing what speed/rpm your higher gear will cause a downshift skip to be at as over revving happens a lot more than people think due to this being done
Take a shot each time he’s says clutch wear
it`s not. Try to shift from 1st into 4th gear in a H3 3.7 Manual. It`s not possible, the gearbox makes horrible noises.
From 1st to 3rd or from 2nd to 4th works fine. This guy has no clue what he is talking about.
Also shame on me for buying a murican car, never ever again!
Wihtout watching the video. Yes it's OK.
Also, you don't shift *down* from second to fourth, that is shifting up.
Jonathan Blake thanks, I was looking for the answer as the video was playing.
Jonathan Blake no 4th is lower than 2nd learn about engine rpm and you will understand
Hulk GTI the guy was talking about engine rotation. The engine rotates less in 4th gear than in 2nd hence the word "down".
From first to fourth? No it's not ok as far as I know, your car is going to wobble a lot and it will damage the engine
nova all about rpm, if you’re close to redline in first gear, a shift into 4th would be fine
I've just used to upshifting from 2. to 4.gear (at 60kmh) in a gasoline engin. It is great feeling when the engin gets the sound, then you calm it down by that. Maybe even more than flooring it. Makes me drive more concius. Btw., very good clip from you!
I knew the answer was yes because I do it every now and then, though not usually under normally driving conditions. I might shift from 4th to 2nd but only if I've really reduced speed, for example on a corner. I'm seldom driving on the highway where I need the extra power but it's interesting to know about revving the engine before making the switch. On a side note, my aunt had a car which wouldn't go into first so she always had to start in second.
When I get tailgated I can put my transmission into neutral and put the stick barely in the Reverse slot without putting it into gear where my reverse lights will turn on. It scares them lol.
I would be way too scared to do that with my car. The best way I have found to discourage tailgaters is to turn on my windshield washers, they back off real quick then!
Proud American you're like 12, stop
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I flip the smoke switch in my diesel and give them a big black cloud of cancer.
OR... You could get out of that lane and let the faster traffic through! Geez...some drivers out there...
hey everyone, manual is the best anti theft in america
americans dont know what gears are
90% of europeans drive manual
automatics have gotten as good as manual these days
theres actually a lot of americans that drive manual
did i mention europeans love driving manual?
just thought i would let you all know how original i am by typing the same thing that you can read on literally every video involving a vehicle that has ever been uploaded
@MlSHKlN it is , it’s really fun and keeps focused
WHY HAVE YOUR HAND LOCKED DOWN TO A MANUAL TRANSMISSION WHEN YOUR HAND CAN HAVE THE FREEDOM OF AN AUTO TRANSMISSION LIKE A TRUE AMERICAN HAND
all jokes aside it is a shame manuals are becoming more rare these days
80%, and dropping
Did you know that it is IMPOSSIBLE for your car to get stolen if you drive a manuelle transmissione?
Most of cars here in the philippines are manual transmission, unfortunately
Bought my 2017 BRZ back in Nov '21 and it would be both my first manual and "I bought it on my own" car. Even though my grandpa taught me how to drive stick, neither of us knew where each gear was. We assumed that the indicator on the gear shifter meant Up was one, down was two and so on. Instead of Left-Up was One (and reverse) and Left-Down was two. For one to two weeks I couldn't understand why I struggled so much with Stop-and-Go movement without stalling the car (because I was actually starting the car in third gear). Months later, with better understanding and actually knowing the gears, I always wondered how much damage I did to the clutch starting the damn car in third. Besides the obvious wear on the clutch, thank you for answering that question.
UK lorry driver here, when I did my licence back in the 80s I was taught to block change… on a crash box… and double de clutch
This entire video could be 3seconds... all u had to say is "Yes"
Are you smart? No. Why? Well I only had 3 seconds to answer.
i dont understand
Do you want the answer, or the explanation?
There's more to life than just having the answers.
J.J. Shank I think that since there is more to life in cars for the original commenter and I, a yes or no would suffice for this topic.
If there is more to life than cars, why even watch this video? You obviously do not care enough about your car or cars if you just want the answer but not the meaning. He goes into detail explaining why you can etc, be it for legal reasons or just educational. Not everyone in life wants the easy road, some of us like to learn.
I drive an 18 speed Roadranger - I skip 5 at a time.
Ha, nice!
I have a hard time going from my 18 speed Peterbilt to my Suzuki XL7 5 speed because I float gears all day long then try to get in my POV and "forget" to clutch between gears lol. Can still float the XL7 but have to wait a lot longer between shifts. It's more like a 1500 rpm drop instead of 250
@@veteranheavyequipmechanic4990 i float my car and pickup..just used to doing it that way..
Skip without the clutch
which ones?
On down shifting easier to Rev match by double de clutching. In snow was taught to pull away in 2nd to use the torque of the engine with less revs to help prevent wheel spin
Just depends on engine Revs, if you know how to drive stick, you know when and where you can.
Cant even imagine the ordeal of him being a backseat driver
Haha, I like to think I'm not all that unpleasant to be around. Unless you're curious about cars and want to talk about them, I'm not going to bring it up.
You and me sir would be talking for hours... I don't find many people that care enough about cars ( outside my wife, she is a gear head as much as I am, part of why I married her )
your wife being a gear head is the sweetest thing ive ever heard i hope both of you are very happy
nivesh tayal - hahaha this made me laugh :). Can't imagine.
If the person giving you driving tips is more knowledgeable about cars and driving, they're a navigator, not a back seat driver.
Driving your car is bad for it. You wear out engine components, wear out your clutch, brake pads, brake disks, tyres, differentials, driveshaft uni joints, you will get stone chips in your paint, your shock absorbers eventually fail, the seats will wear out, rust will form. Best off leaving the car at home and walking.....
Guys, it was a joke.
Legendary Gamer//Alvinator It’s a joke kiddo
Actually, NOT driving your car is WORSE for it than reasonable driving cycle and proper maintenance. A vehicle not prepared for storage needs to be run to operating temperature (lube oil, not just coolant) at a MINIMUM monthly to prevent premature drivetrain failure.
Daniel Santos Why don't you shut up then?
--- Joke
---Daniel's head
---Daniel's brain
My ZX3 Focus lost the ability to shift into 1st or 2nd. Went 5-2, on accident and it made a large pop sound, Reverse, 3rd, 4th, and 5th all still worked! I hated driving it around, starting in 3rd everywhere I had to go. Miss that car.
My 06 GTO makes you do the 1>4 thing. I actually dig it. Especially in the city
I once drove a car that only had 3 working gears. Had to go from 1st to 3rd and 3rd to 5th. Quite an interesting way to drive haha. Oh and in 3rd you had to hold it in or it would pop out.
Hahaha, love it. These are great experiences that give you a finer appreciation when you get into a manual that simply works as it's supposed to. :)
My first several cars had only three gears forward, period, except for the throttle-activated planetary overdrive on the Studebaker, the Rambler, and the Galaxie.
+Engineering Explained I once drove a Nissan Tsuru without 2nd gear. Had to go from 1st straight to 3rd haha.
Devin Stambolziovski the dodge neon only had a 3 speed transmission for the automatic. That is the last 3 speed that I'm aware of
The synchros were worn out... you may have been able to shift in to any gear you wanted if you double clutched... I has a transmission in a 1949 Chevy Coupe that had no synchros and you had to double clutch every single time in order to shift in to any gear.
I've been driving a manual for a couple years now as my first car, and I've always wondered about skipping gears but always forgot to ask, so I'm glad I found your video! The answer was pretty much what I expected it to be but it's nice to have confirmation.
I do this quite often, usually when shifting down under heavy braking I will go from say 5th to second once I reach an appropriate speed. It only really is neccesary when you're accelerating or decellerating heavily, which isn't great for efficiency.
I would skip (1,3,5) in testing for my case (92 Bronco, 5.0) for if it would help fuel mileage wise. Found out it was better to stick with short shifting through all the gears instead for fuel mileage as it made about 0.5-1.0 mpg difference (short distance driving at around 11-12mpg overall). Downshifting (since 5 speed) for braking purposes was always better to just skip 4th since the gear ratios were close enough to not make any difference in slowing me down, or to skip to 3rd to accelerate faster in order to pass someone.
Excellent and properly explained video. I also had this doubt while I used to drive but now I'm aware of what to do! Great job!! 👍
What I've learned from your videos is doing anything to your car is bad, because they don't last forever and are supposed to break. Even washing your car is bad because you depreciate the clear coat and eventually expose the base coat then rust:/ Nobody would buy new cars if they lasted forever.
Ok, to be honest, you are right. But then there was my grandfather, taking so much care for his car. On the 20th year, the paint still looked like new and the maintenances (he didn´t do them himself) were always done on time when the manufacturer recommended. Would be still running around if anyone would have wanted it. It was a shitty 70cv VW Vento from 1994
David No cool story
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This. I unsubscribed from him when he started doing these videos. I wanted to see unique and interesting things I didn't know about, explained by a certified Engineer in layman's terms, not "top 10 things you do everyday that are going to give you cancer (arrows and circles)".
Raven Sharpless "This is a comment I've seen pop up in the comment section, so it's something I thought I should address". Can't please everyone dude.
compression locking the diff is awesome fun in the wet, come up to some lights and drop it into 1st to slide into that turning lane like a baws 😂
just shift without the clutch 👌
I missed the technical explenation, so here is mine.
In the gearbox all gear pairs always interlock, with the gears on the output shaft free to rotate around the output axis. They rotate along with the gears on the input shaft. Gear engagement is done by connecting one of the gears to its own shaft. This connection is made with a connector which is pushed between shaft and gear wheel with a shift fork, creating a fixed connection between input shaft and the relevant gear wheel. The shift fork is operated directly by the gear lever.
When shifting from first to second gear, a series of events take place. 1. Using the clutch the engine is disconnected from the inputshaft. 2. Deselect first gear disconnects the inputshaft from the outputshaft. The inputshaft is still spinning in firstgear speed due to inertia, but disconnected on both ends. 3. By selecting second gear the second connector presses against its synchromeshring (basically a conical friction coupling), which forces the inputshaft and al gearwheels to slow down to the speed of second gear. 4. When the rotational speeds of both axes are synchronised according to second gear ratio, the second gear connector can easily connect output shaft to gearwheel, thus connect inputshaft to outputshaft. 5. Releasing the cluth connects engine and inputshaft, forcing them to turn in the same rotational speed.
So, in step 3, the larger the difference between consecutive selected gears, the more rotational speed difference of the inputshaft the synchromeshring has to slow down, thus potentially a bit more wear on these rings.
Yes, google the term “block gearing” i was taught to do that when I took my driving lessons
"Rev match everything and you can shift anywhere.. even reverse"
Johnny Haller truth!!!
One could even shift WITHOUT clutching, if the revs matches perfectly. (done this many times)
Once my car starts moving I don use my clutch anymore. I'm so awesome.
D.O.A. *spin your car the other way
D.O.A. *spin your car the other way
I'm a relatively new driver and I never skip gears when upshifting but when I am for example approaching a tight turn that I want to take at lower speed, I do skip from 4th to 2nd quite often
I drove a manual Xterra and now have a manual Tacoma. Both vehicles would go through first great so fast. I found myself needing to shift to second sometimes before I even had the clutch fully engaged in first. Might bea combination of first great having such a small gear ratio and the engine being designed for lower rpms then a Sarah. Because of this I often just start in second unless I'm starting uphill
Is that rare to drive a manual car in USA? In France it's very common
In the US they're not that common. The place i've seen a fair amount of cars that are manual are cars at my local high school, as they're cheaper here (people think it takes too much effort to drive manual I guess) and parents snap those cheap cars up, thus their kids drive in manual cars.
It's almost a shame, as my first car is a standard and driving it isn't hard once you get the hang of the car and where to shift.
It is quite uncommon here unless you are after a sports car. I just purchased a new 2017 Nissan Frontier and had to wait 8 weeks while it was on order. The closest one to me in the trim package I wanted was almost 400 miles away, and I still would have had to make some compromises on options I wanted. There basically aren't any new full size truck options that can get you a manual transmission(no Fords, Nissans, Toyotas, a couple Ram 2500s starting at $40,000, and no Chevys). Mid-size trucks like the Frontier, Tacoma, Colorado, and Canyon do offer them, but they are often very limited in the configurations you can get them in. Cars give much better options on them, but you are typically forced to special order them unless you are going for a low-end econobox or a sports car. The sports cars are often able to be found with manual transmissions for the driving experience, and the econoboxes offer them simply for low cost.
In US, Australia and UK people seem to drive automatic transmission, whereas the rest of the world drives manual.
Patricia Oudshoorn I'm from the UK and I know of almost no one who drives an automatic and if they do, it's on a luxury model.
Don't forget Canada. It seems only 'car guys', and gals know how to drive manual.
*but can you skip life?*
Azio Prism Asking the real question!
yes.,.. all you need is an exercise band ;)
That's called death, now go and try it!
☆better question☆:
Can you *skip those @holes* who will try to threaten you w/ their
..reckless impatience & ....
It really depends on the number of intermediate shafts. On a single its fine on a double it is not. This is because the shafts need to spool up or down. With a double the change in speed on the shaft is much higher causing more wear.
this is such a helpful video thank you!!!
Super interesting video I've always had this question.
Reasons to buy a manual transmission:
1. Fun to drive.
2. Fuel efficiency.
3. You're not a man if you don't know how to operate it.
4. Car thieves won't steal your car since they don't know how to operate it.
Proud American I would get an automatic car for a daily driver because im lazy.
Shut up, the more people who know how to drive the more criminals who can steal them. It's the same reason apple doesn't have as many viruses as Microsoft, not enough users.
I always had and always will drive manual transmission, none of my friends ask to borrow my wheels 'cause they can't drive it...
I was with you except for 3. Come on dude. In today's age, there is no reason for everyone to have a manual, especially if they don't enjoy driving the same way you or I do, and there is nothing unmanly about an auto. This is coming from someone who dailies a 17 auto Corolla, but has a '78 CJ 3spd for the weekend.
Proud American ~ As a woman( looking like, smelling like, walking like and flirting like to a man) I could probably drive you, manual or automatic, and drink you, under the table.
I have raced off the line in an automatic against a manual, of equal capabilities, and blew them away. They were surprised and alittle embarrassed to be taken down by a woman but we're impressed non the less and loved to share the story of who not to race in town. Heeheehee!!!
My 2001 WS6 Trans am has that feature that skips from 1st to 4th. Its called skip shift, and you can get a device that you hook up to the wiring that goes into the manual transmission.
I have a 2012 camaro ss. You can change that in your Dashboard options. It will not let you downshift to low gears at high speed.
Hey Jason, KUDOS on the whole massive thing you're doing. You're really gifted in your ability to understand, and your ability to create understanding in others (i.e. "teach"). THANK YOU!!
"Is It Okay To Skip Gears In A Manual Transmission?"
well.... is water wet?
Dextomus I don’t know
No
Actually, water isn't wet. Water makes something wet
You should’ve said “is it ok to breath two times in a row?”
I've heard its viscous
Fantastic video. You are so informative I love it;
When engine breaking I sometimes downshift from fourth (or even fifth) straight to second gear, but I work the breaks to reduce the speed and avoid revving up the engine too much
Thank you. Your video is very informative.
I learned how to drive standard using the neutral trick. I don't climb gears or descend them necessarily. I throw it in neutral then depending on the feel of the car/rpm's put it into the proper gear. Sometimes it's the next one up or down, sometimes it skips one in either direction, it really all just depends on the car. Sometimes I just let it coast in neutral for a while. You get a feel for it and kind of do it intuitively after a while.
This just accidentally answered my question about rev matching. I never knew what it was but it just clicked so hard in my head!
I find skipping gears most useful in hilly area. If you are starting the near near the top of a hill in 1st gear, and the road quickly starts to head down hill, I typically shift from 1st to 3rd and skip 2nd because the car pick up speed so much faster.
I live in a hill, after close the gate its almost 45°, no problems starting from 3rd gear.
Wow, you can sure tell they haven't got many proper transmission drivers in America. How about next vid is "Is it ok to skip frequencies as you tune your radio?"
Your comparison is so accurate. Radios are a thing of the past. So is manual transmission. And I like manual transmission.
Yeah and I guess using the volume would be like rev matching because the volume changes the stronger the signal gets
FM Radio doesn't really change volume with signal strength.
Also your analogy is absurd and pointless.
TessellatedGuy Wouldn't call manual transmission a thing of the past when it's still more common than automatic almost everywhere except America
CODMarioWarfare sure
Why do you say go "down" from 2nd to 4rth gear. It's seems like you have your gears mixed up.
high rev down to low rev.
The higher the number, the less the engine is turning (and thus less fuel consumption and engine wear). So when going from 2nd to 4th gear, you're making the engine work less, thus "going down" as far as engine revolutions is concerned.
oneeyednarn was just about to type this lol
Thank you that confused the hell out of me
I thought he meant positionally. 2nd is "up" and 4th "down" (with the shifter). It made sense to me this way.
The Mercedes-Benz S Class starts in 2nd when you put it in comfort mode to make taking off more smooth
I have used the down shift from 5th gear to 2nd gear and then 1st gear to help with emergency braking.