When kardinal and choclair and that whole black jay canada movement then from van city with the rascals and swollen members was the best time in canadian hip hop
Chromaz is just an example of “it doesn’t become a trend until non black ppl start doing it”. The city doesn’t have a defining hip hop scene…everyone else does but Toronto has killed it. The scene serves to cater to men, sex, and fast life tendencies. Even when we do have talented individuals, they get their shine abroad. It’s a problem Toronto, especially black Toronto needs to address if they want to preserve this stuff.
“it doesn’t become a trend until nonblack ppl start doing it.” What a dumb comment! For anything to become a big trend, you must get traction from other communities. "The scene serves to cater to men, sex, and fast life tendencies." You're right, but that is an issue with all pop/mainstream hip-hop. BTW, as of now, most of the hip hop in the mainstream is by female MCs, and they talk more about sex and living the fast life than male MCs have. The only way out of this is for Black People and other hip-hop fans to embrace free-market capitalism and treat these wack artists as just another niche of music. By doing this, they force that niche to create its own economic structure to survive, and plain and simple, a house cannot survive with a weak structure, so these niches will eventually crumble and be replaced with more substantial niches. This is how good music will be brought back to the masses.
@@SpaceLikeAwareness you called my comment dumb but then explained exactly what I meant 😭 okay buddy Also, hip hop is not owned by black people. Hip hop sold out once it became a commodity. No free market economics will save how mainstream media treats hip hop. Women are taking the steam of its popularity and utilizing the same systems to play their parts. There’s lots of women whose subject matter is deeper than sex…they just don’t get noticed. Doechii dropped one of the most progressive mixtapes, yet she won’t be recognized as the face of female mcs because she’s not a lightskin Coke bottle girl. Please watch some videos on hip hop history/politics/economics before denouncing another persons thoughts lol.
@@britb4544 "you called my comment dumb but then explained exactly what I meant 😭 okay budd" Ummm, I was pointing out that is how things work economically, and it's not something unique to the black community. "hip hop is not owned by black people. Hip hop sold out once it became a commodity." For something to be a commodity, it must be useful and valuable. Are you saying that hip-hop is not useful or valuable? If that is the case, then you should not be mad at the state of mainstream hip-hop because most of the artists in that market don't value hip-hop and are in it for fame. "There are lots of women whose subject matter is deeper than sex…they just don’t get noticed." I agree, but listen to what you are saying. You want the mainstream hip-hop community to recognize artists with talent when it prides itself on not treating hip-hop as something of value. This is the point I'm trying to make: If we treat mainstream hip-hop as another market of music, it will eventually get phased out by markets of hip-hop that have true artists who value hip hip. "Doechii dropped one of the most progressive mixtapes, yet she won’t be recognized as the face of female MCS because she’s not a light-skinned Coke bottle girl." I had never heard of Doechii, and when I looked her up, I must admit that she is talented, but her content is no different from what mainstream female artists talk about. You complained that all the other female rappers just talk about sex, well, the first song I listened to from Doechii, the chorus of the song said "Wake up, A-cup, get your tits sucked, In my makeup, face-fuck, get your bake up, Fake bluff, fake tough, niggas dick suck. Put your sticks up for the motherfuckin' princess Rates up, jig's up, put your dicks up, Get your dicks sucked, put your motherfuckin' sticks up, They suck, that's tough, nigga, pay up Get your rates up for the motherfuckin' princess". Also, Doechii has a video where she is butt ass naked throughout the whole video. Doechii just came out with a video and song with Katy Perry; that will be huge for her popularity, but plain and straightforward; the reason why Doechii is not popular is that her content and music mirror all the female artists everyone is getting sick of hearing.
@@SpaceLikeAwareness you are really dense in your frameworks, so I’ll point out that something not being unique to the black community was not my point. I said it happens often with aspects of black culture. Stop implying contextual biases. Hip hop is a commodity, that never implied that it is not useful and valuable, and I’d argue the opposite, that in order for something to be commodified, people must value it. That’s you trying to straw man argue your way into a point. And now to the subject of women in Hip Hop, the moral high ground women are expected to operate from when they’re are male rappers rapping about killing, selling drugs, hyper sexuality, rape, incest, etc, is cognitive dissonance at its finest. I never argued in favour of the commodification of hip hop, but I also live in the real world. There’s very little we can do unless the INFRASTRUCTURE of a grandfathered industrial complex, like commercial American music, changes. Unless you own an indie label that signs fair deals, allows artists control over their creative process/projects, and the upmost support, you can’t argue that you have an answer. That was a very surface level critique of Doechii lol. 1. You didn’t even know who was mentioned, and you thought a google search would give you a complex understanding of her artistry. 2. On that same mixtape when you google searched the lyrics for the opening track, she has another track that is a candid storytelling of a therapist session. In this session she becomes honest about her addictions and reliance on vices. In the video where she’s naked there’s a concept behind WHY they’re literally naked… she also had a song with Kodak, are you gonna point that out as well? To chalk her up to another female rapper is more a comment of your lazy deductive reasoning. You wouldn’t get artist like noname, little simz, baby Tate, doechii, haviah mighty etc, because you can’t see beyond your box. People like you crush creativity.
I know alot of mans dont like Moula 1st but for rolling loud to take him off of the card but have someone like chromazz on is crazy especially when Moula was the most consistent in toronto at that time hands down and was releasing good music
Seems like if the DJ played the beat 30 seconds earlier it wouldn't have been so bad, it would have still been terrible but you know what I mean. Like Jessica Simpson on Saturday night live, sometimes they purposely mess with their sound to expose them or ruin their careers. I'm not saying that happened here but I'm saying it happens
This is the first time I have heard of this woman. Her music is awful, but I don't think she got into music for...Music. She started making music for fame, and going into Adult Entertainment is a good move if fame is what she is looking for. This is a win/win situation. We don't have to hear her awful music, and she can remain famous with a whole new audience.
She’s not white , & Hispanic culture is not different from Caribbean culture and Caribbean culture is not that different from black culture… but , some Hispanic think they are white.. when they are not .. especially when they get the same treatment as blacks and share the same stereotypes but no one should be using slurs or derogatory words
I'm from toronto, been living in Toronto since 1985, the 90s hiphop scene in toronto was a fukin goldmine...it has turned into a clown show
Factsssssss
Drake definitely helped the city turn 🤡
When kardinal and choclair and that whole black jay canada movement then from van city with the rascals and swollen members was the best time in canadian hip hop
@@JustMike989 don’t forget K-Os
rumble and strong real hip hop
I guess I'm the only person that grew up in the city & has never heard of her 😆
Yup
You and me both my guy
i been a dj in toronto 36 years never heard of her then again me no to follow waist people any way
@@yakksoloyakksolo7493 she a waste yute fi true
free ninja man
Chromaz is just an example of “it doesn’t become a trend until non black ppl start doing it”.
The city doesn’t have a defining hip hop scene…everyone else does but Toronto has killed it. The scene serves to cater to men, sex, and fast life tendencies. Even when we do have talented individuals, they get their shine abroad. It’s a problem Toronto, especially black Toronto needs to address if they want to preserve this stuff.
Cause people want the Toronto rap scene to be poets like kaos, kannan, or gimmicky like chromaz etc
“it doesn’t become a trend until nonblack ppl start doing it.” What a dumb comment! For anything to become a big trend, you must get traction from other communities. "The scene serves to cater to men, sex, and fast life tendencies." You're right, but that is an issue with all pop/mainstream hip-hop. BTW, as of now, most of the hip hop in the mainstream is by female MCs, and they talk more about sex and living the fast life than male MCs have.
The only way out of this is for Black People and other hip-hop fans to embrace free-market capitalism and treat these wack artists as just another niche of music. By doing this, they force that niche to create its own economic structure to survive, and plain and simple, a house cannot survive with a weak structure, so these niches will eventually crumble and be replaced with more substantial niches. This is how good music will be brought back to the masses.
@@SpaceLikeAwareness you called my comment dumb but then explained exactly what I meant 😭 okay buddy
Also, hip hop is not owned by black people. Hip hop sold out once it became a commodity. No free market economics will save how mainstream media treats hip hop. Women are taking the steam of its popularity and utilizing the same systems to play their parts. There’s lots of women whose subject matter is deeper than sex…they just don’t get noticed. Doechii dropped one of the most progressive mixtapes, yet she won’t be recognized as the face of female mcs because she’s not a lightskin Coke bottle girl. Please watch some videos on hip hop history/politics/economics before denouncing another persons thoughts lol.
@@britb4544 "you called my comment dumb but then explained exactly what I meant 😭 okay budd"
Ummm, I was pointing out that is how things work economically, and it's not something unique to the black community.
"hip hop is not owned by black people. Hip hop sold out once it became a commodity."
For something to be a commodity, it must be useful and valuable. Are you saying that hip-hop is not useful or valuable? If that is the case, then you should not be mad at the state of mainstream hip-hop because most of the artists in that market don't value hip-hop and are in it for fame.
"There are lots of women whose subject matter is deeper than sex…they just don’t get noticed."
I agree, but listen to what you are saying. You want the mainstream hip-hop community to recognize artists with talent when it prides itself on not treating hip-hop as something of value. This is the point I'm trying to make: If we treat mainstream hip-hop as another market of music, it will eventually get phased out by markets of hip-hop that have true artists who value hip hip.
"Doechii dropped one of the most progressive mixtapes, yet she won’t be recognized as the face of female MCS because she’s not a light-skinned Coke bottle girl."
I had never heard of Doechii, and when I looked her up, I must admit that she is talented, but her content is no different from what mainstream female artists talk about. You complained that all the other female rappers just talk about sex, well, the first song I listened to from Doechii, the chorus of the song said "Wake up, A-cup, get your tits sucked,
In my makeup, face-fuck, get your bake up, Fake bluff, fake tough, niggas dick suck. Put your sticks up for the motherfuckin' princess
Rates up, jig's up, put your dicks up, Get your dicks sucked, put your motherfuckin' sticks up, They suck, that's tough, nigga, pay up
Get your rates up for the motherfuckin' princess". Also, Doechii has a video where she is butt ass naked throughout the whole video. Doechii just came out with a video and song with Katy Perry; that will be huge for her popularity, but plain and straightforward; the reason why Doechii is not popular is that her content and music mirror all the female artists everyone is getting sick of hearing.
@@SpaceLikeAwareness you are really dense in your frameworks, so I’ll point out that something not being unique to the black community was not my point. I said it happens often with aspects of black culture. Stop implying contextual biases. Hip hop is a commodity, that never implied that it is not useful and valuable, and I’d argue the opposite, that in order for something to be commodified, people must value it. That’s you trying to straw man argue your way into a point.
And now to the subject of women in Hip Hop, the moral high ground women are expected to operate from when they’re are male rappers rapping about killing, selling drugs, hyper sexuality, rape, incest, etc, is cognitive dissonance at its finest. I never argued in favour of the commodification of hip hop, but I also live in the real world. There’s very little we can do unless the INFRASTRUCTURE of a grandfathered industrial complex, like commercial American music, changes. Unless you own an indie label that signs fair deals, allows artists control over their creative process/projects, and the upmost support, you can’t argue that you have an answer.
That was a very surface level critique of Doechii lol. 1. You didn’t even know who was mentioned, and you thought a google search would give you a complex understanding of her artistry. 2. On that same mixtape when you google searched the lyrics for the opening track, she has another track that is a candid storytelling of a therapist session. In this session she becomes honest about her addictions and reliance on vices. In the video where she’s naked there’s a concept behind WHY they’re literally naked… she also had a song with Kodak, are you gonna point that out as well? To chalk her up to another female rapper is more a comment of your lazy deductive reasoning. You wouldn’t get artist like noname, little simz, baby Tate, doechii, haviah mighty etc, because you can’t see beyond your box. People like you crush creativity.
Fam!!! You’re grinding hard today!!! 3 today we are getting blessed❤
Ikr🔥❤️
I know alot of mans dont like Moula 1st but for rolling loud to take him off of the card but have someone like chromazz on is crazy especially when Moula was the most consistent in toronto at that time hands down and was releasing good music
Lol yo not that i look at it THATS DISRESPECTFUL 🤷♂️
This girl is really on stage trying to fight with someone in the audience.. 😂😂 I would of told her about her self !! .
I haven’t heard the term BLUE MOVIE in years, real yawd man 😂😂😂😂
Toronto should rename itself Backwardsville
Salute to you and this channel brother 🙏🏾
😂😂 “it was kind of weird” dude im dying at your comments lmfao soo good
Thank you for your time and great content 👏🏽
I definitely don’t pay attention to this 🐦🧠 Toronto rap scene is a joke 😂
SMDH embarrassing to Canada
Inna di pickney dem face😂
Lol i must be gettin old cause i aint ever heard of any of these people
Lol
Lmfaoooo the amount of second hand embarrassment I felt watching that Rolling Loud performance
Yo say "Hip Hop" again my G 😂😂😂 "ip op" 😂 true yard mon
Good channel fam
Appreciate it
I blame Drake
Looks like a plant , same with 6ix buzz
Michie mee first lady of toronto.
PERIOD!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I don’t understand how vybz kartel is following her
Who da hell is this bird
Blue movie😂😂
The sea of boos is wild but warranted.
She has No Klass !
She also got befriended by her friend known as the chair girl cause she was getting known more than her but she murked
💥🇬🇾🇨🇦💥 algorithm like and subscribe manz puttin in workx
Rasssss!🇻🇨 x 🇸🇴 👍🏾
Let’s go Vincy 🇻🇨🇻🇨
Never heard of her
I remember her getting cooked by dj akademiks lmaoooo what a throwback
I didn’t know this chick existed who is she ???
@@evjimz8460 she tried being a rapper or whatever lol totally flopped
@@papyrusted😂😂😂 oh myyyy!!!
Facts!!!! coconina is fire
Missed this one
Another person Drake promoted smh
He wanted to hit
Neva heard of no rapper here boagz lol I really ain’t tapped with Toronto underground music either
Chromazz on stage at rolling loud is painfully hard to watch.. why does she sound so goofy
😂 🤣 😭
Everyone knows she had the same appeal as ice spice ...young and a fine ass body ...easily ran through and no talent ...
Where's the proof that Ice Spice has been ran through? Her twerking?
It’s been years since I heard of miss “Toronto First Lady”😂😂
No one knows who she is
Jefe9Joven is the best artist out here
I used to defend her til the racial slurs and her calling Mani the hard R on that live while he was like 10 smh
Seems like if the DJ played the beat 30 seconds earlier it wouldn't have been so bad, it would have still been terrible but you know what I mean. Like Jessica Simpson on Saturday night live, sometimes they purposely mess with their sound to expose them or ruin their careers. I'm not saying that happened here but I'm saying it happens
But who allowed her to cross the threshold at the studio?
Yooo I’d be so pissed if I went to rolling loud and she was on
Have a funny feeling she used the casting couch to get on stage. imo
This is the first time I have heard of this woman. Her music is awful, but I don't think she got into music for...Music. She started making music for fame, and going into Adult Entertainment is a good move if fame is what she is looking for. This is a win/win situation. We don't have to hear her awful music, and she can remain famous with a whole new audience.
I just saw this girl because Charleston had to put her in her place lol she’s constantly yelling the Nword lol
She’s not white , & Hispanic culture is not different from Caribbean culture and Caribbean culture is not that different from black culture… but , some Hispanic think they are white.. when they are not .. especially when they get the same treatment as blacks and share the same stereotypes but no one should be using slurs or derogatory words
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