Blood Rush only gives you a maximum of 440% crit chance (11 x 40), not 480%. The reason is because a 1x combo multiplier does not add any bonus crit chance to the weapon (1 x Anything = itself) so your max crit chance bonus is always (Combo Multiplier - 1) x Crit Chance (unmodded, no other bonuses).
Been playing WF for 6 years now and seen numerous videos and guides about damage and gameplay. And by far this is the best hands down.This video addressed the simple fact that not everyone wants to play a certain style by priming the mobs before hitting it , specially when using heavy attack builds. It is clunky in actual gameplay
real warframe sweats have a dedicated build to every weapon just so they would not be fucked in the circuit. cassuals use pglaive because they dont want to spend their limited time on maxing boring or even bad weapons.
I'm in between midgame and lategame, and was looking for ways to boost my power output before I hit any walls, and this is so amazingly helpful! I'm definitely gonna check out your other videos!
@@bradleymallard6347 no really I thought Meta was an imaginary thing that had no word... 🤦 Meta id an acronym for most efficient tactics available. Or meta from the Greek standpoint means after... 😏
Thank you!!! Thanks to you I finally have an understanding on modding melees and have an idea on how combos work. And your build recommendations are honestly far better than overframe have been for me.
Seeing him scroll through all the melee mod options when I’ve only been playing for a month made me scared. I thought I had a lot and he had at least 10 times as many
it's what's called a "backronym" because it was defined after the fact. "meta-" is an old greek prefix which means "beyond", which is used to refer to the "game beyond the game", or the strategy behind the game. It was later defined retroactively with the words Most Effective Tactic Available, which is a really lovely acronym because it defines the word better than the original definition, and for a modern context.
Heat+viral works on all enemy factions across the board when building any weapon. As heat works well on infested and strips armor, while viral makes enemies take more direct health damage. My melee builds specifically go between, viral, heat+corrosive, heat+viral, or toxin for elemental status, depending on the melee type. Aside from that, I would like to suggest builds with blood rush would need drifting contact, to increase the combo multiplier timer. As to not lose that 12x multiplier as quickly or as often. Aside from that, this is a good starting guide for new players.
@@disrrpt6060 People will use Viral on something like an Epitaph to prime the enemies, like Blacky mentions with the Condition Overload disclaimer. Adding Viral to a primer kills two birds in one stone, gives Virals innate vulnerability and adding statuses for Condition Overload to use.
I'd love a video of yours covering the different open worlds. Even with some of the best builds I can muster I always seem to end up struggling through the Orb Vallis and Deimos especially.
If u really wanna do high damage with ANY melee (not those few the video talked about) just mod them for crit dmg and use Kullervo. Any melee weapon is busted with him if you build it enough
I would like to point out that since the making of this video the Tennokai mod pack has been released. This essentially completely negates the combo counter reset on heavy attack (so long as you time it correctly), giving hella viability to the light-heavy hybrid build.
I actually needed this video. Been playing since Silver Grove but stopped sometime between Melee 3.0 and Deimos. Jumping back in when Duviri came out left my Melee Arsenal a mess and I didn't know what I was doing was optimal or not universally; copy/pasting Condition Overload, Amalgam Organ Shatter, Blood Rush, Drifting Contact, 2 elements, filler (usually faction). Thanks again for your help
Something I notice is that the Stance mod is a lot more important in builds than it was made out to be, each move has a damage multiplier in the string of moves as well as some FORCE procking Status such as the first move in the the block and move forward in the Soverign Outcast stance for Tonfas where you spin them in front of you at range. TLDR: Stance matters more than just the move set
@@buritodripumaki5689 definitely, and using Rauta on Kullervo counteracts the negative Combo Duration that Corrupt Charge gives, so even if you're not using the Rauta for much else, at least use it for that
These videos are what makes it clear that when I played this game when I was a far angrier person, I had literally 0 idea what the hell I was doing. I remember literally selling Condition Overload for like 12 plat back then.
One thing about range, it is not always good to use it, due to the individual weapons follow through dmg. Follow through dmg is how much dmg you do through your first enemy, most melee weapons have 0.6 follow through, which means you loose 60% dmg through each enemy, you dmg. Great vid.
Thank you! And indeed this is a point that I should've added ^^ Especially in the Hybrid Light Heavy Build where you want to heavy attack only the VIP targets a huge range might screw you over...
@@lycwydthoughts4640 advancement is just going forward, advancing in a game means going closer to late/endgame, so advanced basically is just late game
This a very helpful guide. I consider myself knowledgeable in modding primary and secondary weapons, but I've always had trouble modding my melee weapons.
Thank you for the nice feedback ❤️ Glad I could help ^^ Theoretically I should make one about Frames, too... but it's just too hard to find a universal build scheme here xD
The light/heavy mix strategy got a huge buff thanks to Tennokai mods recently. Now, you can light attack until you see the Tennokai symbol, then heavy attack, not losing your combo multiplier, and allowing yourself to deal absolutely ridiculous damage.
Got to disagree on this one. The Slash DoTs don't take elemental damage into account at all. It's purely based on Modded Base Damage, Faction Damage and additional multipliers like crit 😉
I have so far built all my melees according to what I thought sounded decent and would work. And my main melee, which used to be Tatsu and is now Tatsu Prime, I built similarly without any guides, based on heavy attacks. My build is: - Wise Razor and Dispatch Overdrive in the exilus slot (bc why not) And then I have Sacrificial Steel, Primed Fever Strike, Primed Reach, Primed Pressure Point; Condition Overload, Life Strike, Virulent Scourge and lastly Vicious Frost. - The only "guide" I built this based on, was viral damage being meta at the time.
I'm still malding that they put a 30 meter minimum range requirement on the Exodia Contagion Arcane, that shit was my FAVORITE goofy overpowered weapon of all time and they broke its knees completely ;(
Regarding the slash status comment at around 11:50: Slash is actually fairly weak, as far as damage output goes. Its sole advantage is, as is mentioned, that it ignores armor. Slash isn't that great if the enemy has no armor. It's a bit over the top to call it the best status in the game, especially as defense strip has gotten more and more accessible. Because it was as relatively scarce as it was for so long, people seem to have forgotten that both electric and gas are AoE damage and, as a result, effectively scale with the amount of enemies present on top of the usual stuff. This is also why, in my opinion at least, you'd use gas against infested, moreso than their vulnerability to the raw damage of it. They (outside of Deimos) have no armor, so you don't even have to armor strip them. Literally just bring Nautilus and a status gas/electric weapon and hit each Cordon-gathered ball of enemies once and watch them explode due to AoE status damage.
Slash is however by far the most usefull out of the physical status effects. Infested are also so easy to kill that modding for them in particular is pretty unecessary.
I practically did 80% of the game content with a melee weapons and exalted blade since i didn't want to invest in guns and mods i probably wouldn't use later on tldr I've about mcfuken had it using melee weapons
As a returning player from 4 years ago, I feel enlightened to know that condition overload and blood rush are not multiplicative (anymore?) and therefore shouldn't be used together.
@@Sabotai2 werent they always additive? if u get 90% crit dmg from one mod and 480% from bloodrush it would be 570%, no? that s also the reason why it s better to look for mods that gives an extra multiplier to ur weapon instead of something that just adds. with x as ur dmg. in this case u d have 5,7*x or u pick a faction mod instead giving 1,55*4,8*x=7,44*x and the next thing to pay attention would be to even out the multipliers instead of focussing on one. example u have the option to go with 3*5 or 4*4, first is 15 second 16. ofc this only works if the mods u have the option to put on have similar values
@@yawgmoth3669 I believe they worked as multiplicative after damage/crit mods. But it might be that I had false assumption/understanding at the time. Example: Assuming the mods added 100%. 100 damage would become 400(100x2x2 instead of 100x3) with both mods added. Since maiming strike adding flat crit chance was possiple to multiply by blood rush it seemed to be the case to not only multiplying the original base value.
the only reason i focus on just building for crit damage is because of those "stupid" situations where you have to destroy an object such as HIVE missions. Suddenly, your OP steel path end game DPS is so miniscule it will take you and the entire team melee attacking one hive node for about five minutes to destroy it. Meanwhile, you can shred masses of enemies in less than a second. i'll never forget the four times i went into HIVE and either the other player(s) didn't help me take down the node or i had to solo the mission due to being dropped into solo and having to melee the node for about five minutes to destroy it. i'm talking about the main node not the protective cyst things.
Melee weapons are always cool especially given the variety, but saying Stance mods just "change the animation" (@1:17) is such an _underwhelming_ way of putting it- (٥↼∀↼)
Also, outright wrong. Strance mods change the move set yes, but also the invisible damage multipliers, forced status effects, cleave, and many other stats of the attacks. While you can't find the into in game, the wiki has most if not all of this under each stance's entry
For Condition Overload is excellent with Voruna as her 2nd ability inflicts 10 stacks of 5 randomly selected elements onto an enemy. It helps ease the need to spread your elements on your weapons as it's an instant (at max upgrade) 400% damage boost
thought i would add this here since this came out before whispers in the wall. With tennokai, your heavy attacks can be used without consuming combo. Because of this, hybrid light heavy is much better. Even with something like Nikana prime, you'll do insane damage on heavy if a tennokai proc happens at 12x combo. Idk how late game viable it actually is, but its fun. I reccomend running blood rush and umbral strike for max crit (its prob overkill but i like red numbers)
Went on a rampage in Gift if the Lotus Steelpath. Actually hit a Guardian eximus for 2.4 million damage, with a welll build tenet exec and voruna. Feels good to build right
I think Quickening isn't to be underestimated for attack speed mods, imo. It has lower speed, but gives you another useful bonus. But I get that you want to keep the video simply for beginners. Good video btw, very good indeed for beginners and some things were new for me, too. Good work :3
Thank you for the nice feedback ❤️ Glad you liked the vid ^^ You're right, Quickening is nice. If you're running a combo heavy attack hybrid build or if you're not going for Naramon, I think this one might even be the best choice ^^
Something I like about Warframe is that you can get by with basic modding but if you like to minmax you can research and study to amplify them but if you dont want to do the research and just want to play with op weapons you can just look it up
Ive made a lesion build with 114% status chance. It is built on slash(82%) and ice(23%) mostly and thx to it special trait it deals after 1-2 blows viral with 100% netxt to slash.
@@Vntichrist I mainly modded it on slash. The mods I run currently are: perssure point (+120%dmg), Melee Prowess (+90%stc), Boreals Contempt (+90%dmg/+60%stdmg), True Steel (+120% crit chance), carnis mandible (+90%slash/+60%stc), jagged edge (+90%slash), vicious frost (+60%cold/+60%stc) and reach (+1.5range). I dont have all primed mods so theres room to improve it. Also Im thinking about changing true steel with fury but im not sure yet. The stats are: dmg: 440.8 cold, 36.7 puncture, 1542.9 slash and 146.9 impact. Bc of its trait the cold changes to viral after 1-2 hits. The crit chance are at 33 with this build with a 2x multipier and 114.7% status chance (23,3%cold, 7.8%impact, 81,7%slash and 1.9% puncture). Let me know if there is a way to improve it more but as I said, I dont have all primed mods.
Me, looking at a 23 minute guide without blinking knowing very well that i will keep viral+priming the enemies and heavy attack with a guaranteed slash proc weapon. 👁👄👁
Please tell me that you will cover warframe modding at some point soon, i have been struggling figuring out what mods are good/bad in general for steel path
Haha, I'd love to do a vid like this on Warframes but there's not a general scheme on how to mod with Warframes as there is with weapons... Maybe I'll be able to come up with someting ;)
Regarding Toxin vs Shields, it doesn't bypass all types of shield, so I always use an allrounder build with Slash, Heat and Magnetic. Yeah it's not that powerful but I don't feel like switching mods for every faction as I have included Slash for Grineer, Heat for Infested and Magnetic for Corpus. (Also, Magnetic hits with any weapon pops magnetic bubble anomalies in missions with this hazzard type)
@@noahedenborg4221 aside from the Corpus Treasurer, some (most) Bosses also prevent toxin shield bypass, at least that was true a while ago when I've done some tests
What's crazy to me is how the attack damage stat on the weapon doesn't matter nearly as much as I thought it did. I.E. when you put an element and the number goes up it doesn't mean it will perform better than one with a lower stat.
You may want to reverify condition overload damage. A few updates back, DE capped damaged to 3 unique status, thus nerfing condition overload in a big way.
@@Sabotai2 yes but why say slash is the best if you have to use it only after priming with mass viral stacks? I know slash is good (and viral makes it better) but idk, kinda was funny timing to say that and then show that clip tbh.
using both gladiator might and organ shatter is good imo esp if low cc on weapon higher chance of super crits. dont build combo if no naramon just dont its horrible not worth getting combo duration mods over dps mods. sac pressure bad bc u should be using glad might or blood rush over SS everyday esp if ur using condition overload and weeping wounds. also priming is good but u can get through starchart and even up to lv 80-90 enemies without priming. just use corrosive/slash with on a combo build, WW/Condition ov/blood rush/organ shat/berserker fury are all must haves for a combo build. corpus enemies r weak and easy to kill u dont need to build a specific element for them. status proc from corrosive lowers their armor % anyways. non armored infested are easy to kill with slash proc and the armored ones corrosive melts them. grineer gets shit on by corrosive. if u stay above just 5 stacks on any decent weapon u should be shredding regardless if u prime or not on starchart and high lv bounties
Corrosive and Slash contradict each other. Corrosive lowers armor while Slash ignores it. Elements also do not increase bleed damage. Blood Rush will not work on heavy attack builds, and sacrificial steel gives the exact same bonus due to the 2x on heavy attack modifier. Corpus on Steel Path, especially in higher levels past 200, for sure need Toxin to bypass their immense shield pools. No amount of Slash or Viral will work here. Dexterity arcanes on a primer do more for your melee than you think.
Which Melee Weapon is YOUR Favourite?
the reaper prime
Sun & moon & Tonfas ❤️🔥
Reedemer prime
Zaw w contagion lol
Glaives !
Blood Rush only gives you a maximum of 440% crit chance (11 x 40), not 480%.
The reason is because a 1x combo multiplier does not add any bonus crit chance to the weapon (1 x Anything = itself) so your max crit chance bonus is always (Combo Multiplier - 1) x Crit Chance (unmodded, no other bonuses).
what about weapons that go up to 13x multiplier?
@@NurtureCooperthen they got to 480, simple as
Been playing WF for 6 years now and seen numerous videos and guides about damage and gameplay. And by far this is the best hands down.This video addressed the simple fact that not everyone wants to play a certain style by priming the mobs before hitting it , specially when using heavy attack builds. It is clunky in actual gameplay
"why on earth would i waste the time when i can just glaive prime? 🤷🙄" -warframe sweat community probably
Bruh that shi expensive
@@benzjoeyand boring as hell 🙄
@@drpulcinella1870it works though, makes the long grind of kuva much easier
real warframe sweats have a dedicated build to every weapon just so they would not be fucked in the circuit.
cassuals use pglaive because they dont want to spend their limited time on maxing boring or even bad weapons.
@@benzjoeyyeah it is. I got it when it was 200p but honestly it’s SOO good it becomes boring.
You're my go to for understanding how modding works. Thank you for all the wonderful work you do!
I'm in between midgame and lategame, and was looking for ways to boost my power output before I hit any walls, and this is so amazingly helpful! I'm definitely gonna check out your other videos!
I was today years old when I learned Meta means Most Efficient Tactic Available...
That's wild I knew about that back in like 2000... 😳
Some people use it that way others say meta in the sense of looking beyond the surface level of the game to understand why something is the best.
@@bradleymallard6347 bruh Meta literally stands for, most efficient tactics available...
@xD3m0nx meta is also a word.
@@bradleymallard6347 no really I thought Meta was an imaginary thing that had no word... 🤦 Meta id an acronym for most efficient tactics available. Or meta from the Greek standpoint means after... 😏
Thank you!!! Thanks to you I finally have an understanding on modding melees and have an idea on how combos work. And your build recommendations are honestly far better than overframe have been for me.
Aaaaw thank you for all the praise ❤️ Really happy to hear that you found it so helpful ^^
dude your videos completely change my perspective on how to play warframe. I appreciate you and all your content thank you.
Aaaaw super glad you found it helpful ^^ Thank you for the fat compliment ❤️
I’ve been playing for close to seven years, and I FINALLY understand melee damage. Hash me all you guys want, but this dude just made my day 😊
Aaaaw happy to hear that you found it helpful ^-^
Cheers for all the praise ❤️
Seeing him scroll through all the melee mod options when I’ve only been playing for a month made me scared. I thought I had a lot and he had at least 10 times as many
Had no idea the term “meta” was an acronym, you learn something new everyday
gotta watch to learn it now
it's what's called a "backronym" because it was defined after the fact. "meta-" is an old greek prefix which means "beyond", which is used to refer to the "game beyond the game", or the strategy behind the game.
It was later defined retroactively with the words Most Effective Tactic Available, which is a really lovely acronym because it defines the word better than the original definition, and for a modern context.
Im only a casual player and honestly never understood until this video! This was so helpful! Finally getting through SP at MR17 😅😅
Heat+viral works on all enemy factions across the board when building any weapon. As heat works well on infested and strips armor, while viral makes enemies take more direct health damage.
My melee builds specifically go between, viral, heat+corrosive, heat+viral, or toxin for elemental status, depending on the melee type.
Aside from that, I would like to suggest builds with blood rush would need drifting contact, to increase the combo multiplier timer. As to not lose that 12x multiplier as quickly or as often.
Aside from that, this is a good starting guide for new players.
Yeah i was wondering if viral fell off or...
Yeah I’ve been using heat and viral and it’s amazing, Status effects are very important too
mabye true but when only use 1 combo when u can jsut take whats strong against that faction
@@disrrpt6060 People will use Viral on something like an Epitaph to prime the enemies, like Blacky mentions with the Condition Overload disclaimer. Adding Viral to a primer kills two birds in one stone, gives Virals innate vulnerability and adding statuses for Condition Overload to use.
i have 700 hours and i still enjoy watching guides helps me teach friends and u always learn new things
Shad
This is the most that I’ve learned from ever guide about warframe I’ve seen, you make it so easy to understand, thank you
thank u so much i had a 3 year break from warframe and i forgot how to mod lol, love the content keep it up
Thank you for the lovely feedback ❤️
Glad you found it helpful and welcome back to the game :D
Thx
I'd love a video of yours covering the different open worlds. Even with some of the best builds I can muster I always seem to end up struggling through the Orb Vallis and Deimos especially.
Orb vallis is the hardest one i think 😝🫢
If u really wanna do high damage with ANY melee (not those few the video talked about) just mod them for crit dmg and use Kullervo. Any melee weapon is busted with him if you build it enough
I'm so glad I found this channel. Just some minor tweaks with my budget mods, and my damage is waaaay higher.
I would like to point out that since the making of this video the Tennokai mod pack has been released. This essentially completely negates the combo counter reset on heavy attack (so long as you time it correctly), giving hella viability to the light-heavy hybrid build.
I actually needed this video. Been playing since Silver Grove but stopped sometime between Melee 3.0 and Deimos. Jumping back in when Duviri came out left my Melee Arsenal a mess and I didn't know what I was doing was optimal or not universally; copy/pasting Condition Overload, Amalgam Organ Shatter, Blood Rush, Drifting Contact, 2 elements, filler (usually faction). Thanks again for your help
Glad I could help ^^
Welcome back to the game and thank you for your lovely words ❤️
now let me farm for 3 weeks trying to get even half of these
the fact to that melee weapons are generally the best weapon until like literally steel path but then even still are stupid op
Key note, bloodrush and other similarly scaling mods only stack up to 11x, so its only a 440% buff, exact same as sac steel on heavy attacks.
You videos helped a lot, I went from 0 to soloing steelpath. Thank you sensei!!
Amazing! :D
I'm really happy that I could be a part of your journey. Keep on slayin' ❤️
I've spent so much time on this game and know all of this yet im watching this video. Good job
Thank you so much for the awesome feedback!
same boat bro. It's like ik the answer to 2+2 but imma check anyway
Something I notice is that the Stance mod is a lot more important in builds than it was made out to be, each move has a damage multiplier in the string of moves as well as some FORCE procking Status such as the first move in the the block and move forward in the Soverign Outcast stance for Tonfas where you spin them in front of you at range.
TLDR: Stance matters more than just the move set
If you're looking for a crit build, using Kullervo nullifies the need for crit chance
Well, at the sac of some combo ovc
The passives also help a heap ton when building for a heavy attack play style
@@buritodripumaki5689 definitely, and using Rauta on Kullervo counteracts the negative Combo Duration that Corrupt Charge gives, so even if you're not using the Rauta for much else, at least use it for that
@@buritodripumaki5689 yep. shame it isnt AS useful on some weapons though
These videos are what makes it clear that when I played this game when I was a far angrier person, I had literally 0 idea what the hell I was doing. I remember literally selling Condition Overload for like 12 plat back then.
Lmfao. Condition overload is one of the most rarest mod only drop from Deimos bounties' mobs. 😂
But hey, good to see that you're apparently in a better position now ^^
@@MHBlacky_ENG honestly yes! Still have a unique problem with Deimos but hey I’m working on it. :)
I haven't played Warframe for so long but I would say this is a very informative guide specially for the early game part which is great.
Thank you ❤️ Happy you liked it ^^
One thing about range, it is not always good to use it, due to the individual weapons follow through dmg. Follow through dmg is how much dmg you do through your first enemy, most melee weapons have 0.6 follow through, which means you loose 60% dmg through each enemy, you dmg.
Great vid.
Thank you! And indeed this is a point that I should've added ^^ Especially in the Hybrid Light Heavy Build where you want to heavy attack only the VIP targets a huge range might screw you over...
Great vid, MHBlacky. I always find your guides helpful.
Aaaaw thank you ❤️
Always happy to help ^^
Melee is always so much fun, thank you for this
Yeah it is... Red numbers go brrr :D
Pov you have none of these mods besides pressure point😭
😂😂😂
Bro if pressure point all you have here you shouldn’t worry about this advanced stuff😭
@@ianthewizard7924it's not advanced. It's just later game material.
@@lycwydthoughts4640 advancement is just going forward, advancing in a game means going closer to late/endgame, so advanced basically is just late game
This a very helpful guide. I consider myself knowledgeable in modding primary and secondary weapons, but I've always had trouble modding my melee weapons.
Then I'm happy I could help ^-^
Thank you for the amazing feedback
Just got off work. Perfect video to watch now that I open TH-cam .
Thank you for the lovely compliment ❤️
Wish you a great start into the weekend ^^
These two videos on weapon modding have been absolutely invaluable. Thanks.
Thank you for the nice feedback ❤️
Glad I could help ^^
Theoretically I should make one about Frames, too... but it's just too hard to find a universal build scheme here xD
I got a Grendel Prime ad on the Video
Lol didn't even know such things exist xD
The light/heavy mix strategy got a huge buff thanks to Tennokai mods recently. Now, you can light attack until you see the Tennokai symbol, then heavy attack, not losing your combo multiplier, and allowing yourself to deal absolutely ridiculous damage.
For the DOT build you CAN and should go for element. You just gotta make sure that the element value is lower than the Slash stat
Got to disagree on this one. The Slash DoTs don't take elemental damage into account at all. It's purely based on Modded Base Damage, Faction Damage and additional multipliers like crit 😉
@@MHBlacky_ENGEHEM
Viral procs self priming
Slash is far superior, man.
@@noahedenborg4221 Counter-argument: Viral on a secondary like Epitaph or Nukor, saving slots for more Slash DOT.
@@dogma32 well yeah u can do that
I have so far built all my melees according to what I thought sounded decent and would work. And my main melee, which used to be Tatsu and is now Tatsu Prime, I built similarly without any guides, based on heavy attacks.
My build is: - Wise Razor and Dispatch Overdrive in the exilus slot (bc why not) And then I have Sacrificial Steel, Primed Fever Strike, Primed Reach, Primed Pressure Point; Condition Overload, Life Strike, Virulent Scourge and lastly Vicious Frost. - The only "guide" I built this based on, was viral damage being meta at the time.
My fav weapon is the Ghoulsaw, bc a thousand slash procs is so much fun and also it's such a goofy weapon
Thank you for ending my headache of struggling on how to mod my melees
Haha you're welcome, happy I could help 😉 Thank you for the lovely compliment ❤️
you forgot the 3rd school of thought, putting on the wrench skin and using exodia contagion. if you can dodge a wrench you can dodge a ball
LOL
Comicly large spoon skin I want it
If u can dodge a rocket u can dodge a ball
I'm still malding that they put a 30 meter minimum range requirement on the Exodia Contagion Arcane, that shit was my FAVORITE goofy overpowered weapon of all time and they broke its knees completely ;(
@@Jukantos except it still works
Regarding the slash status comment at around 11:50: Slash is actually fairly weak, as far as damage output goes. Its sole advantage is, as is mentioned, that it ignores armor. Slash isn't that great if the enemy has no armor. It's a bit over the top to call it the best status in the game, especially as defense strip has gotten more and more accessible. Because it was as relatively scarce as it was for so long, people seem to have forgotten that both electric and gas are AoE damage and, as a result, effectively scale with the amount of enemies present on top of the usual stuff. This is also why, in my opinion at least, you'd use gas against infested, moreso than their vulnerability to the raw damage of it. They (outside of Deimos) have no armor, so you don't even have to armor strip them. Literally just bring Nautilus and a status gas/electric weapon and hit each Cordon-gathered ball of enemies once and watch them explode due to AoE status damage.
Slash is however by far the most usefull out of the physical status effects. Infested are also so easy to kill that modding for them in particular is pretty unecessary.
This video is showing me how little I know about warframe modding!
Oh don't worry about it 😉
It's a complex topic and took me ages to get into aswell ^^ You'll get there 😉
If you need elemental damage, turn to Lavos(I think that's the one who is a scientist who throws vials) or Chroma
I practically did 80% of the game content with a melee weapons and exalted blade since i didn't want to invest in guns and mods i probably wouldn't use later on tldr I've about mcfuken had it using melee weapons
so real for saying "just take a picture of this and copy it, it's really good". pretty much the entirety of warframe modding.
Yeah, I mean after the whole video I think it wasn't necessary to explain the Glaive in detail 😉
I hope you update this considering the massive changes to mechanics with Jade Shadows :)
The Tennokai mod is pretty op for combo quick and heavy attack builds.
disciplines merit with my crit sword melts😂
As a returning player from 4 years ago, I feel enlightened to know that condition overload and blood rush are not multiplicative (anymore?) and therefore shouldn't be used together.
Uhm... CO is base damage, BR is crit chance. I don't see where the problem would be in using them together...
@@MHBlacky_ENG I meant using normal damage mods with Co and normal crit chance with blood rush. Which I forgot to specify.
@@Sabotai2 werent they always additive? if u get 90% crit dmg from one mod and 480% from bloodrush it would be 570%, no? that s also the reason why it s better to look for mods that gives an extra multiplier to ur weapon instead of something that just adds.
with x as ur dmg. in this case u d have 5,7*x or u pick a faction mod instead giving 1,55*4,8*x=7,44*x
and the next thing to pay attention would be to even out the multipliers instead of focussing on one.
example u have the option to go with 3*5 or 4*4, first is 15 second 16. ofc this only works if the mods u have the option to put on have similar values
@@yawgmoth3669 I believe they worked as multiplicative after damage/crit mods. But it might be that I had false assumption/understanding at the time.
Example: Assuming the mods added 100%. 100 damage would become 400(100x2x2 instead of 100x3) with both mods added.
Since maiming strike adding flat crit chance was possiple to multiply by blood rush it seemed to be the case to not only multiplying the original base value.
i havent played in years but i found this and brought back memories of when i finally started to understand modding
That's nice to hear ^-^
I remember killing my strongest weapon Syam by removing my stance capacity booster thing using forma. It still hurts😭😭😭😭😭
Great video as always! 👌🏼
Your tips help a lot to make better builds.
Thanks Blacky! 😄
Great that I could help you ^^
Thank you for the encouraging feedback ❤️
the only reason i focus on just building for crit damage is because of those "stupid" situations where you have to destroy an object such as HIVE missions. Suddenly, your OP steel path end game DPS is so miniscule it will take you and the entire team melee attacking one hive node for about five minutes to destroy it. Meanwhile, you can shred masses of enemies in less than a second. i'll never forget the four times i went into HIVE and either the other player(s) didn't help me take down the node or i had to solo the mission due to being dropped into solo and having to melee the node for about five minutes to destroy it. i'm talking about the main node not the protective cyst things.
Slash is a Status so Slash weapons can proc Spring-Loaded Blade if you are building say a Statstick
but why statstick needs spring-loaded blade ? hmm ?
So you are telling me I can finally enjoy the game in my own way?
Time to finally rock melee owo
You always could
@@bosslogo6948they prob just mean they always wanted to mainly use melee but fidnt know how to make it viable
You are the first person who made the good guide for building ever
Melee weapons are always cool especially given the variety, but saying Stance mods just "change the animation" (@1:17) is such an _underwhelming_ way of putting it- (٥↼∀↼)
Also, outright wrong.
Strance mods change the move set yes, but also the invisible damage multipliers, forced status effects, cleave, and many other stats of the attacks.
While you can't find the into in game, the wiki has most if not all of this under each stance's entry
For Condition Overload is excellent with Voruna as her 2nd ability inflicts 10 stacks of 5 randomly selected elements onto an enemy. It helps ease the need to spread your elements on your weapons as it's an instant (at max upgrade) 400% damage boost
Yeah, Voruna can be a beast with a Condition Overload melee build.
Ah yes, another enjoyer of the gram prime
thought i would add this here since this came out before whispers in the wall. With tennokai, your heavy attacks can be used without consuming combo. Because of this, hybrid light heavy is much better. Even with something like Nikana prime, you'll do insane damage on heavy if a tennokai proc happens at 12x combo. Idk how late game viable it actually is, but its fun. I reccomend running blood rush and umbral strike for max crit (its prob overkill but i like red numbers)
Big red number make happy chemical :)
Hahaha that's my life since over a year now xD
Hear me out. Go into visual settings and change all dmg indicators colors to be red. Happy all the time😎
Went on a rampage in Gift if the Lotus Steelpath. Actually hit a Guardian eximus for 2.4 million damage, with a welll build tenet exec and voruna. Feels good to build right
you can use arcane strike, berserker fury, AND quickening for fun levels of attack speed. i do this and its so nice
mI think this is going to be more relevant when we finally get the ability to hold the melee button instead of mashing it xD
@@MHBlacky_ENG heck yeah. Time to go nuts
@@MHBlacky_ENG or in an zenistar heat build, lots of heat scaling there with good attack speed, wich also helps its gimmick.
@@MHBlacky_ENGagreed. With that button and that attack speed setup, it turns any sword into the Crissaegrim from the Castlevania series!
i enjoy the glaive prime detonation build honestly the most feels very strong even in long steel path runes
Me, too. It's wild :D
I think Quickening isn't to be underestimated for attack speed mods, imo. It has lower speed, but gives you another useful bonus.
But I get that you want to keep the video simply for beginners. Good video btw, very good indeed for beginners and some things were new for me, too. Good work :3
Thank you for the nice feedback ❤️ Glad you liked the vid ^^
You're right, Quickening is nice. If you're running a combo heavy attack hybrid build or if you're not going for Naramon, I think this one might even be the best choice ^^
Something I like about Warframe is that you can get by with basic modding but if you like to minmax you can research and study to amplify them but if you dont want to do the research and just want to play with op weapons you can just look it up
Any melee ❌
Melee with high crit, high status and high slash chance ✅
5:54 440%*, cuz in the right corner is 11x for blood rush (and weeping wounds)
Ive made a lesion build with 114% status chance. It is built on slash(82%) and ice(23%) mostly and thx to it special trait it deals after 1-2 blows viral with 100% netxt to slash.
What mods are you using bro? I main the lesion and am watching this video to try and build it better lol
@@Vntichrist I mainly modded it on slash. The mods I run currently are: perssure point (+120%dmg), Melee Prowess (+90%stc), Boreals Contempt (+90%dmg/+60%stdmg), True Steel (+120% crit chance), carnis mandible (+90%slash/+60%stc), jagged edge (+90%slash), vicious frost (+60%cold/+60%stc) and reach (+1.5range). I dont have all primed mods so theres room to improve it. Also Im thinking about changing true steel with fury but im not sure yet. The stats are: dmg: 440.8 cold, 36.7 puncture, 1542.9 slash and 146.9 impact. Bc of its trait the cold changes to viral after 1-2 hits. The crit chance are at 33 with this build with a 2x multipier and 114.7% status chance (23,3%cold, 7.8%impact, 81,7%slash and 1.9% puncture). Let me know if there is a way to improve it more but as I said, I dont have all primed mods.
Now Im thinking to change true steel with melee elementalist to increase the damage. But I dont have it now so I need to farm it first. 😂😂😂
Rauta is also good for heavy attack melee focus builds, can probably be modded as a primer while you stack up combo counter
That's Exactly How I Modded Mine. 🤓
Remember when condition overload was just the godliest mod ever?
Lol I see alot of new player info. Glade I learn this naturally... Great vid.
alright youve convinced me ill care about melee
Haha then much fun I guess :D
Bro you helped me so much just keep it up
Me, looking at a 23 minute guide without blinking knowing very well that i will keep viral+priming the enemies and heavy attack with a guaranteed slash proc weapon. 👁👄👁
I mean Viral Priming + Heavy Attack is super strong so I guess you didn't need this guide after all :D
@@Dedmos2322 melee was always braindead in this game u could just get any decent mele and inaros and do everything in warframe tbh
@@kgldjkgur2046inaros is worst wf to exist, healthpool is not working in curent situation if not built super specifically
Gosh I really love your videos and guides. It helps a lot!
Aaaw thank you so much ❤️
Always glad to hear if my vids are helping y'all out^^
The corafell is the most fun weapon it just feels good to use
Try the syam then
Legitimately the best feeling weapon in the game
Yo I’m subbing rn you are so good at explaining these things
Thank you for the nice feedback ❤️ Happy that I could help and welcome to the crew 😉
Please tell me that you will cover warframe modding at some point soon, i have been struggling figuring out what mods are good/bad in general for steel path
Haha, I'd love to do a vid like this on Warframes but there's not a general scheme on how to mod with Warframes as there is with weapons... Maybe I'll be able to come up with someting ;)
It’s really simple, just mod for what your build calls for
thank you, this helped me out so much for modding melee weapons. now i can go and reek havoc :D
Glad I could help ^^
Wish you much fun 😉
Regarding Toxin vs Shields, it doesn't bypass all types of shield, so I always use an allrounder build with Slash, Heat and Magnetic. Yeah it's not that powerful but I don't feel like switching mods for every faction as I have included Slash for Grineer, Heat for Infested and Magnetic for Corpus. (Also, Magnetic hits with any weapon pops magnetic bubble anomalies in missions with this hazzard type)
no toxin bypasses all shield health
@@noahedenborg4221there are different types of shields some in which toxin can’t pass
@@uchihasage7 no i check toxin bypasses every shield
besides the treasurer ones
@@noahedenborg4221 aside from the Corpus Treasurer, some (most) Bosses also prevent toxin shield bypass, at least that was true a while ago when I've done some tests
@@NMG.11 treasurer and boss enemys are the only enemys that toxin cant bypass shields which is literally like 1% of all corpus enemys
Best tutorial about vg on the internet!
The xoris is already OP, i dont even use guns anymore lol, just throw the xoris and yse the explosion and it takes put tons of enemies at once
Just found this weapon today, it’s how I figured out there’s a different type of attack pattern for melee weapons.
@@seanheisey8645 ohhhhh
What's crazy to me is how the attack damage stat on the weapon doesn't matter nearly as much as I thought it did. I.E. when you put an element and the number goes up it doesn't mean it will perform better than one with a lower stat.
Warframe is simple:
*...proceeds to mention a new nuance every 30seconds for 20minutes*
To be fair it is simple, but it can be complex.
Very easy to understand information. Love your structure for videos. Subbed
IS THAT THE GODDAMN MONADO?
yup ^^
This And the gun modding guide were incredibly helpful.
Thank you!
the mk1 bo makes me feel like sun wukong
Are you running it on Wukong, too? :P
@@MHBlacky_ENG I'm just saying that I enjoy playing wukong with out no primary and secondary but yeah I am running it up on him
You may want to reverify condition overload damage. A few updates back, DE capped damaged to 3 unique status, thus nerfing condition overload in a big way.
Had someone else comment something similar in the past. Wiki sais it's not capped and I could not find any source that sais it is.
i wish that was true
"we won't use any elemental damage at all, just slash!"
*shows clip of enemies being blasted with mass viral stacks before using the slash weapon*
That's status priming and isn't considered "damage".
@@Sabotai2 yes but why say slash is the best if you have to use it only after priming with mass viral stacks? I know slash is good (and viral makes it better) but idk, kinda was funny timing to say that and then show that clip tbh.
💪💪💪 amazing I haven’t even seen the video and I kno you’re right cuz I’m hitting around the same damage
using both gladiator might and organ shatter is good imo esp if low cc on weapon higher chance of super crits. dont build combo if no naramon just dont its horrible not worth getting combo duration mods over dps mods. sac pressure bad bc u should be using glad might or blood rush over SS everyday esp if ur using condition overload and weeping wounds. also priming is good but u can get through starchart and even up to lv 80-90 enemies without priming. just use corrosive/slash with on a combo build, WW/Condition ov/blood rush/organ shat/berserker fury are all must haves for a combo build. corpus enemies r weak and easy to kill u dont need to build a specific element for them. status proc from corrosive lowers their armor % anyways. non armored infested are easy to kill with slash proc and the armored ones corrosive melts them. grineer gets shit on by corrosive. if u stay above just 5 stacks on any decent weapon u should be shredding regardless if u prime or not on starchart and high lv bounties
Dexterity arcanes
Corrosive and Slash contradict each other. Corrosive lowers armor while Slash ignores it. Elements also do not increase bleed damage.
Blood Rush will not work on heavy attack builds, and sacrificial steel gives the exact same bonus due to the 2x on heavy attack modifier.
Corpus on Steel Path, especially in higher levels past 200, for sure need Toxin to bypass their immense shield pools. No amount of Slash or Viral will work here.
Dexterity arcanes on a primer do more for your melee than you think.
I've got my Ekhein hammer doing over 2 million damage on some hits. It's absolutely hilarious and fun
Haha yes, big damage numbers always make my day :D
CO isnt on elemental status effects but ANY status effect
So that’s why faction mods are good. Good to know.