Man, if I had a nickel for every time Thanos had become omnipotent and destroyed the universe.. I´d have Five nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird it happened five times.
I have 5 nickles, and I'm unaware of the meaning or ramifications behind my owning of said nickles, but if I had no nickles then it would probably be cause there wasn't anything and that he had won.
Wow, looking back at this book, every character in it is someone Donny Cates has written or is currently writing a solo series for. Silver Surfer, Hulk, Mjolnir and the Galactus skull throne for the Thor connection, it's amazing there's no Venom references to be seen.
Well this was the first appearance of Silver Surfer Black, which kinda implies “Silver Surfer Black” happened maybe, so he met Knull… so loose connection to Venom I guess
I will say I think there is a bit of context missing for this run. Before Cates took over Jeff Lemuire did an amazing 12 issue run on Thanos, involving Thane and Starfox and Thanos facing mortality. This is technically a sequel to the Lemire run Did love the episode though. I really loved this when it came out, really announced Cates in Marvel. He did this and Doc Strange at the same time, these being his first marvel books.
Holy shit, that ending is amazing! Thanos wins, not by killing, gaining power, changing reality or anything like that, he finally wins... against Death. Standing in front of her, knowing that this will be the end of his pursuit, just one last thing to do, he chooses that she isn't worth it. No matter how deeply engrained his obsession over Death was even from the moment of his birth, the life he lived in pursuit of her made him into a person that actually cares about some other things; his own pride, most of all. Begging someone to bring him to Death? Not worth it. In essence, this makes Thanos now obsessed with Death, but knowing that there is no way that the person he has become would ever choose to pursue the path to her. Unless some other writer just ignores all that, or interprets it differently of course.
That is how Thanos wins. Not against the heroes, not against the universe, not even against Death. Thanos' ultimate victory is when he triumphs over his own obsession. His own pride. Thanos has freed himself from the prison of inevitability. And now, there is nothing left to stand in his way. Damn, that's surprisingly thematically resonant for a book like this. Well played, Cates.
Except he already did this at the end of Infinity War, he rejects Death and got over her without power. So this isn't the first time he has rejected Death, I also believe in Lemire's run he did.
@@Ashguy733 I should clarify: he's not technically an Eternal. His parents were Eternals, but he was born a Deviant; however, in the recent Eternals comic series (which you should read by the way, it goes so much harder than it needs to, and it's amazing) he basically hijacked the Eternals' resurrection machine to make himself immortal. And also give him prime authority over Eternal society. So, there's that.
Yeah as a Thanos fan this honestly wasn't my favourite story tbh, there are parts I like, but him forgetting Adam Warlock who literally is his only friend/frenemy? And been with him through most of his stories and sorta acting as an alternate point of view and conscience. Also I kinda thought it was interesting reading the early Thanos stuff where he was a nihilist that I felt was obsessed with Death, because he felt reality just wasn't worth living. In a way I think his obsession with Death was because of his lack of love in his life and also from his nihilistic conclusions, its why I liked his and Warlocks conversations in Starlin's stories because him getting over Death was when I enjoyed the character way more then the last decade where they keep having him reinforcing it as his only reason for existence and creating a dumb church. I just find it, retroactively degrading the characters growth since Infinity War. This was Jeffery Dahmer Thanos that Aaron had established in Thanos Rising. And as crazy as Starlin's OGN that is pretty much the same story as this, I prefer it, but tbh they both suck lol.
I sure hope Donny watches these videos!! I bet Chip and Scott Snyder ain't the only creators who've taken some time to check 'em out, haha. Tom King included.
38:58 thats similiar to a ben 10 character named prof paradox who got stuck in a time warp for so lomg he got bored of being insane and learnt how to control time under his own power
I swear it’s been 20 years of Galactus just being the biggest Jobber in Marvel. Need to establish a big threat? Just have said threat beat the hell out of the big G. God, even when he was turned into the “life bringer” by Ewing, he was still a Jobber.
can't what for Beta Ray Bill that was one of the best comic of this Character it going to be awesome because it you guys you always make it fun and awesome
I love you I love you I love you I love you I love you forever. And I love me some Thanos. Thank you guys so much. You three are the best. Tiffany is dope too but these three are my boys. Haven't even listened to it yet but I'm super excited. Might leave another comment after I watch it.
Donuary (Cates) Zebuary (Welles) Markch (Wade) Stapril (Fiona) (Aka more Saga month!) Kirbmay (Jack) Daniel Warren Juneson July Giraud (Moebius) August Goodwin (He wrote a weird Nick Fury Book with Chaykin.) Or August Andrews Sandtember (Dollhouse, whoo!) Scotttober Revember (Remender) Dinicember
Now I'm imagining bored Cosmic Ghost Rider In Valhalla. Cosmic Ghost Rider: I'm bored. Thor: Come drinking friend! I will challenge Baldur to a drinking contest! CGR: You have a drinking contest with Baldur every day. *It always ends in a draw.*
Lobdtover - Scott Lobdell; March Waid - Mark Waid; Kubvember - Andy Kubert; Think of the pain. That's 3 times in a year you can talk about Onslaught again. (Or just upload an Onslaught discussion with slight differences to Mandela effect us all)
I know the guys are only having fun, but Thanos turning away from Death is the one legitimately healthy thing he’s ever done. We’re not talking about Jim Starlin’s Mistress Death here. This is Jason Aaron’s Mistress Death who loves mass murder and genocide. Ever since Thanos Rising, Death has been this insidious cosmic being responsible for making Thanos into the villain he is. She’s been manipulating him, egging him on to kill people his entire life for her, and thanks to Donny Cates, even gave him his name. Technically, Mistress Death is now one of the most evil beings in the Marvel Universe.
I like Back Issues on Marvel. I'm a DC guy, so I have no real attachment to any of these characters or the universe and therefore can sit back and watch the fireworks.
Can confirm. The cosmic ghost rider figure from Marvel legends is pretty sweet. I got it on sale. Which is what lead me to read this comic. And was my intro to donny cates.
Virgin Movie Thanos: _Well you see, I need to destroy half the universe with the Infinity Stones in order to reduce overpopulation, and no stop asking why I can’t just double the resources in the universe my plan is perfect shut uppppp_ Chad Comic Thanos: _I just destroyed half the universe because I could lol_
Funny thing is, the “Thanos Wins” future still exists, at least in Donny Cates’ stories. Spoiler Alert for Cates’ Guardians of the Galaxy run: King Thanos shows up at the final issue, but he’s wearing a hooded robe. Almost like he’s become Death. And going by recent issues, Donny Cates intends to keep this “Thanos Wins” storyline alive in his Thor run.
"Spring King" "Chip-mas in July" "Alan Moore and the Equinox" "April Showers bring May flowers, existential crisies bring Grant Morrison" "The dog days on Duggan" "Waidstock" or "Vaughstock" "Gathering of the Mike Dedattos"
This book isn't great, but I'd be lying if I said that I didn't have fun reading it. I guess I can say the same thing about most Donny Cates Marvel work.
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Now Batman/Superman 16-21 and annual of 2022 is crisis with sliver age Batman and Superman of the recent run
_"I used the Thanos to destroy the Thanos."_
Your comments brighten my day Mr. Mustache Guy
“I’m starting a Thanos farm.”
(Guess where that’s from?.)
A Thanos backissues during Donuary was inevitable
Man, if I had a nickel for every time Thanos had become omnipotent and destroyed the universe.. I´d have Five nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird it happened five times.
As well the amount of times he's beaten or unmade a future version of himself... "How Many Times Do I Have To Teach You This Lesson Old Man?!"
Honestly 5 is a lot
Nice Doofenshmirtz reference
That is kinda weird.
I have 5 nickles, and I'm unaware of the meaning or ramifications behind my owning of said nickles, but if I had no nickles then it would probably be cause there wasn't anything and that he had won.
Between this and Devourer King, Galactus just can't catch a break. His helmet is reduced to furniture
Sal: "I don't like being sold to..."
Bad news, Sal, you're a comic book fan
Wow, looking back at this book, every character in it is someone Donny Cates has written or is currently writing a solo series for. Silver Surfer, Hulk, Mjolnir and the Galactus skull throne for the Thor connection, it's amazing there's no Venom references to be seen.
Well this was the first appearance of Silver Surfer Black, which kinda implies “Silver Surfer Black” happened maybe, so he met Knull… so loose connection to Venom I guess
Doing multiple Donny Cates books back to back really highlights how Donny Cates has like 6 ideas that he just re-names and uses again and again.
Welcome to reading tsutomi nihei
54:14-54:33 GENIUS!!!😆
55:27 I love how bleak than line from Ethan is.
I will say I think there is a bit of context missing for this run. Before Cates took over Jeff Lemuire did an amazing 12 issue run on Thanos, involving Thane and Starfox and Thanos facing mortality. This is technically a sequel to the Lemire run
Did love the episode though. I really loved this when it came out, really announced Cates in Marvel. He did this and Doc Strange at the same time, these being his first marvel books.
I found this trade years ago at a freaking Costco for like 9 bucks. Great buy
Nice!
"Ya I took a swing at him! :)" has killed me.
BLESS THE GODS another ComicPop episode today. You guys are my daily comic fix
Galactus just can't catch a break, always treated like some jobber to the stars.
This had all the feels of a classic/throwback episode, great job guys!
Annihilation will still be peak marvel cosmic to me. Even the more recent Annihilation Scourge was pretty cool
Holy shit, that ending is amazing! Thanos wins, not by killing, gaining power, changing reality or anything like that, he finally wins... against Death.
Standing in front of her, knowing that this will be the end of his pursuit, just one last thing to do, he chooses that she isn't worth it.
No matter how deeply engrained his obsession over Death was even from the moment of his birth, the life he lived in pursuit of her made him into a person that actually cares about some other things; his own pride, most of all. Begging someone to bring him to Death? Not worth it.
In essence, this makes Thanos now obsessed with Death, but knowing that there is no way that the person he has become would ever choose to pursue the path to her. Unless some other writer just ignores all that, or interprets it differently of course.
That is how Thanos wins. Not against the heroes, not against the universe, not even against Death. Thanos' ultimate victory is when he triumphs over his own obsession. His own pride.
Thanos has freed himself from the prison of inevitability. And now, there is nothing left to stand in his way.
Damn, that's surprisingly thematically resonant for a book like this. Well played, Cates.
Except he already did this at the end of Infinity War, he rejects Death and got over her without power. So this isn't the first time he has rejected Death, I also believe in Lemire's run he did.
@@Ashguy733 And now Thanos is straight-up an Eternal, meaning that he can never actually die. Talk about wanting to prove a point lmao
@@halfmettlealchemist8076 I really wish they would stop adding stuff to him personally. Him being a Deviant was enough.
@@Ashguy733 I should clarify: he's not technically an Eternal. His parents were Eternals, but he was born a Deviant; however, in the recent Eternals comic series (which you should read by the way, it goes so much harder than it needs to, and it's amazing) he basically hijacked the Eternals' resurrection machine to make himself immortal. And also give him prime authority over Eternal society. So, there's that.
Yessss! comic pop is covering thanos wins. I wish I could request thanos quest.
Yeah as a Thanos fan this honestly wasn't my favourite story tbh, there are parts I like, but him forgetting Adam Warlock who literally is his only friend/frenemy? And been with him through most of his stories and sorta acting as an alternate point of view and conscience. Also I kinda thought it was interesting reading the early Thanos stuff where he was a nihilist that I felt was obsessed with Death, because he felt reality just wasn't worth living. In a way I think his obsession with Death was because of his lack of love in his life and also from his nihilistic conclusions, its why I liked his and Warlocks conversations in Starlin's stories because him getting over Death was when I enjoyed the character way more then the last decade where they keep having him reinforcing it as his only reason for existence and creating a dumb church. I just find it, retroactively degrading the characters growth since Infinity War. This was Jeffery Dahmer Thanos that Aaron had established in Thanos Rising. And as crazy as Starlin's OGN that is pretty much the same story as this, I prefer it, but tbh they both suck lol.
Cant wait for Zdarsky month. Zdarch!
Lousy Zdarch weather…
Chiptember?
I sure hope Donny watches these videos!! I bet Chip and Scott Snyder ain't the only creators who've taken some time to check 'em out, haha. Tom King included.
38:58 thats similiar to a ben 10 character named prof paradox who got stuck in a time warp for so lomg he got bored of being insane and learnt how to control time under his own power
I was just thinking about this book when you guys covered the Thor story and cosmic ghost rider made a brief appearance.
this is the greatest youtube series out there
Okay, I admit, March Waid was genius.
I swear it’s been 20 years of Galactus just being the biggest Jobber in Marvel. Need to establish a big threat? Just have said threat beat the hell out of the big G. God, even when he was turned into the “life bringer” by Ewing, he was still a Jobber.
I'm not a Thanos fan, but this does sound awesome! Great episode!
30:59 I can't believe Sal just wasted the end of the imaginary roach
“He swung” brought me to tears 😂😂😂
That's who Cosmic Ghostrider is?? That's awesome!!
Hell yeah, new Back Issues episodes always make my day
Hey you already got Thor and Silver Surfer Black. Gotta complete the whole mini CatesVerse collection right
I can't wait for Geoff Junes!
Thanos: making narcissism and death worshipping look rad since 1973.
I like that this whole month is gonna be that stack from last week.
can't what for Beta Ray Bill that was one of the best comic of this Character it going to be awesome because it you guys you always make it fun and awesome
Donny Cates makes pretty rad action figures!
And stories I guess.
Donny “I made Venom cool again” Cates
Cant wait for Charch, you figure it out!
This is so great! I just read this and then the video popped up
I love you I love you I love you I love you I love you forever. And I love me some Thanos. Thank you guys so much. You three are the best. Tiffany is dope too but these three are my boys. Haven't even listened to it yet but I'm super excited. Might leave another comment after I watch it.
12:48 Isn't gem short for gemstone? I think either way works.
Donuary (Cates)
Zebuary (Welles)
Markch (Wade)
Stapril (Fiona) (Aka more Saga month!)
Kirbmay (Jack)
Daniel Warren Juneson
July Giraud (Moebius)
August Goodwin (He wrote a weird Nick Fury Book with Chaykin.)
Or
August Andrews
Sandtember (Dollhouse, whoo!)
Scotttober
Revember (Remender)
Dinicember
I would sugget Furmanuary (Simon Furman)
Sals pain but being cool trying to explain this while Ethan and Ben are cracking up kills me 🤣🤣🤣👍
The Charlie Sheen joke 10/10
I know Sal said it ironically but Cosmic Ghost Rider IS awesome. He's a fucking riot! Thank you for doing this book.
Now I'm imagining bored Cosmic Ghost Rider In Valhalla.
Cosmic Ghost Rider: I'm bored.
Thor: Come drinking friend! I will challenge Baldur to a drinking contest!
CGR: You have a drinking contest with Baldur every day. *It always ends in a draw.*
Lobdtover - Scott Lobdell;
March Waid - Mark Waid;
Kubvember - Andy Kubert;
Think of the pain.
That's 3 times in a year you can talk about Onslaught again. (Or just upload an Onslaught discussion with slight differences to Mandela effect us all)
Well, if anything, we're going to have to remind them about March Waid and Scottober when those months come back around.
"Thanos is like Charlie Sheen" noooow that is your angle for the next Marvel event
We'll rememberuary Sal, we'll rememburay
When Thanos wins he loses. That is his essence.
Hopefully the next one is Cosmic Ghost Riders solo series
I'm thinking Stantember for September! a wide range of books there !
Moore May, Morrison March, January Johns.
If the "donuary" continues, it be fun to look at that marvel knights mini revival that donny co-wrote be on back issues.
Donny cates has shown that not only vox from "death of inhumans" is allergic to hammers to the face but so is the silver surfer lol
Future Thanos is such a sellout he shops at Hot Topic.
Think this is a fav episode of mine. Same with the secret wars 2 one, or invincible
Man am I the only one who thinks Sal could write a great marvel comic?
Excellent video 👍
Awesome episode.👍🏻
Can't wait for more Donuary!
Another episode I've been wanting for months. As long as we make it to Beta Ray Bill I will die a satisfied soul😁
That penance stare can go through glass cuz the glass is transparent. It’s the Transparence/ Transpenance Stare!
Johnuary: geoff johns
I know the guys are only having fun, but Thanos turning away from Death is the one legitimately healthy thing he’s ever done. We’re not talking about Jim Starlin’s Mistress Death here. This is Jason Aaron’s Mistress Death who loves mass murder and genocide.
Ever since Thanos Rising, Death has been this insidious cosmic being responsible for making Thanos into the villain he is. She’s been manipulating him, egging him on to kill people his entire life for her, and thanks to Donny Cates, even gave him his name. Technically, Mistress Death is now one of the most evil beings in the Marvel Universe.
I like Back Issues on Marvel. I'm a DC guy, so I have no real attachment to any of these characters or the universe and therefore can sit back and watch the fireworks.
I was waiting for this back issue
Can confirm. The cosmic ghost rider figure from Marvel legends is pretty sweet. I got it on sale. Which is what lead me to read this comic. And was my intro to donny cates.
Virgin Movie Thanos: _Well you see, I need to destroy half the universe with the Infinity Stones in order to reduce overpopulation, and no stop asking why I can’t just double the resources in the universe my plan is perfect shut uppppp_
Chad Comic Thanos: _I just destroyed half the universe because I could lol_
Nah, Comic Thanos wanted some bones.
Anyone else noticed that the MCU Infinity Gauntlet movie is NOT the adaptation of Infinity Gauntlet but rather *THANOS QUEST?*
Yesssss!! Keep the don train going!
(June)athan Hickman!
If you ever get bored of Donuary there's some interesting releases good for black history month and themes for Valentines Day
please do March Waid! He's one of my favorite writers
We’ve had Darkseid is, now we got Thanos wins.
Robtober (Liefeld October)
March waid is gold
Now I want Marchwaid
not sure why i just thought of this but Annihilation WAVE with the Silver SURFER
Been waiting for this
"March Waid" is fucking genius.
Funny thing is, the “Thanos Wins” future still exists, at least in Donny Cates’ stories. Spoiler Alert for Cates’ Guardians of the Galaxy run: King Thanos shows up at the final issue, but he’s wearing a hooded robe. Almost like he’s become Death. And going by recent issues, Donny Cates intends to keep this “Thanos Wins” storyline alive in his Thor run.
CGR is wild. 200K next!!
Kingpril for all tom king books
"Spring King"
"Chip-mas in July"
"Alan Moore and the Equinox"
"April Showers bring May flowers, existential crisies bring Grant Morrison"
"The dog days on Duggan"
"Waidstock" or "Vaughstock"
"Gathering of the Mike Dedattos"
In Immortal Hulk Banner almost suggests the name Maestro to "Devil Hulk" but gets cut off by the plot and never mentions it again.
Hickmapril? Eh. Fractiovember? Nah. Loebtober? Maybe... guys, what month rhymes with "John Byrne"?
The most obvious month has to be "Aunt" May.
All the Donny Cates...All at Once...All for You!!!!
I can’t wait for ALAN MOOrch, that will be a fun month lol
No way I’m all for Donuary I thought it was gonna be an every couple weeks thing
apparently there is a marvel legends sleepwalker toy. So im just really hoping to see it in the back shelf next episode.
Dreddcember :-)....Apriliens? Bring back Alienday
Ok, now you guys need to make an back issue on Mark Waid's books in march, the name alone demands it lol.
This book isn't great, but I'd be lying if I said that I didn't have fun reading it. I guess I can say the same thing about most Donny Cates Marvel work.
Anyone else notice wolverines claw in the background in hulks cell?
All my favorite TH-camrs happen to be posting videos on my birthday, what a day! I'm glad Thanos is having a good day too 🥳
Happy birthday!
@@saucepresents Thank you!
Every new Donny Crates book is one step closer to learning about Beta Ray Bill!
Brian May-chael Bendis month
I can't believe Ben and Ethan didn't pick up on the fact Sal says Thanos erected a church for death.
Spider-Man is not just a warrior, hes a WEB WARRIOR!