Honestly, I'm getting tired of seeing this. No, Toyota is not going to shove an engine design that was developed 20 years ago into a new car. Get over yourself. The B58 is a strong engine, but you morons who haven't driven the new one OR the old one insist on it not being up to the task simply for being an outsourced motor. I have yet to hear a bad review of the new Supra yet, even from people who have driven, and love the old Supra. Get the stick out of your ass and move on. While I can agree in a sense with the purists that not having a manual kind of sucks, it's meant to appeal to a broader market, and not just you jaded losers. It's meant to be an everyman's car, just like the old one, and an automatic accomplishes that in this day and age, where learning manual is unnecessary.
@@harleypickin217 while he dynoing something was blow up from that b58 while the 4 ar toyota made that still using standart opend deck block achive 1k hp easy while the bmw engine strungling because the stupid engine electronic
daigo saitos team did it first but there was a fuel fire and the harness was cooked its been down for months because harness is on national backorder. So it was impossible to get. Hopefully he can have his up soon too.
@@jdmr1c3ing yes they did. this is the reason why theres no toyotas except an suv in forza horizon 4. pretty funny seeing fh4 banners in the background
The 2JZ just sounds so good. All my favourite engines are because they sound good on top of amazing performance. The B58 might be good but it don’t sound like a 2J
@@the_visionvry6244 The new Supra or the 2JZ? The 2JZ has been swapped into tons of cars, trucks, SUVs, boats. (haven't seen a plane swap yet though) There's 2JZ Mustangs, Volvos, Chevys, Crown Vics, Mazdas, Hondas, etc.
Toyota was only able to afford the r&d that created the 2jz because they were making money hand over fist. They didnt have the spare cash laying around to justify engineering a new 2jz
I'm disappointed to see a brand new Supra have their new engine insta-swapped with an old engine but this is an advertising platform for HKS and they have done brilliant work on the 2JZ. Lets hope HKS is developing goodies for the new engine.
@@dancearoundtheworld5360 That is his nickname. His full name is Nobuteru, but he gained the nickname NOB which, aside from being short for Nobuteru, stands for "No One Better".
Thats the fender, something probably got lose when he almost went off track that plus the hay debris and the fact his fitment doesnt look like it allows room for anything in/out so its shredding whatever it is in the wheel well
@@deivybueno9959 and how would you know ? The car isn't even a year old and people are saying: uhhh my 2J, uhhh BMW bad. Let me give you a intresting fact: TOM'S Racing ( a Toyota tuner ) made a Supra GT500 Race Car ( you probably have seen it unless you were blind ) and guess what engine it had ? A 3S-GTE, yeah, a I4, why you ask ? Because it was _much_ more lighter and made about 700HP in race trim. The B58 is a good engine, like the 2JZ. The problem is that people hold it in a pedestal for reasons unknown, and anything that isn't a 2JZ, for them is the antichrist. People in the 90's didn't know that the 2JZ was that good, but given enough time, I'm sure the B58 is going to live up to it's chore of replacing the 2JZ
@@doabarrellroll69 is a joke right? Im not saying the B58 is bad motor, not at all, but how I explain this to you? IS NOT A SUPRA MOTOR!!!! people like me, really fans of the name Supra, would prefere to spend 100.000$ in a 100% Supra with a updated JZ engine. Im sure Toyota would sale 5 times more than with that fake Supra, I mean, is so fake that the only Supra thing is the fiber. Come on man, be real about this, If you want a BMW, please buy a BMW, there are too many good ones to shoose!!!
The only thing that could make this better is using the concept car
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Of course Daigo Saito would be one of the 1st people to swap a 2JZ in the new A90 Supra... But I feel like this swap wont be necessary when the OEM BMW B58 Engine gets time to develop and grow in the aftermarket tuning scene. It's already looking like a very promising engine. Just give all the tuning companies some time, and the B58 engine's aftermarket scene is going to grow and mature into basically this generation's 2JZ. Before only euro tuning companies would make aftermarket stuff for this engine, but now that it's in the Supra so many other companies (especially JDM companies) are going to be releasing aftermarket parts for this car it's going to be very exciting to see this platform grow. Honestly, I'm just glad Toyota stuck to their roots and stuck with a Turbo charged inline 6, unlike Nissan who went with a TTV6 in the R35. TTV6's just wont ever be able to sound as good, pure and exciting as a turbo charged straight 6. V6's are just so boring, and lazy.
This is what supra should've done in the start, keep the new design and interior maybe add the option of manual but they do have paddle shifting, and they should've kept this beautiful 2jz engine....
*I was hoping NOB would have done better than he did, in the drift competition..(Which was a strange type of competition in itself) Still, it was nice seeing a driver of his caliber at Goodwood. With the 2nd most D1GP wins, he certainly can drift.*
@@MrShadowofthewind That's what I was thinking. I think his primary focus for a while now, has been grip driving, I.E., hired gun for Tsukuba time attack runs and Super GT, as well as the 86/BRZ race series in Japan. I'd imagine with a busy race schedule and acting as a hired gun for teams/shops/privateers at Tsukuba time attack events, he probably doesn't have much time to be able to shakedown/test the A90.
Am I the only one in the comments who likes the stock B58 engine? Yeah it’s not a Toyota engine but it has everything the old 2jz was known for, and I think it will be a hit with the tuner community
Papadakis Racing has a teardown video of the new engine and I will say it's good to see it's a closed block design; a huge problem with BMW engines is the open block / multimetal sleeve design. It doesn't stay square under pressure and you can't deck it, so once the head gasket blows (which happens very quickly if you start pushing boost) the engine is disposable. However, it's still a VANOS engine, which is a design I've never agreed with: gratuitous complexity seemingly for its own sake. Highly prone to failure and it's really limiting at high performance levels. I doubt this engine will ever see anything like 2JZ power levels because it will be too damn hard to reengineer the VANOS system to get enough lift and duration. I'm sure there's tuneability in this engine, but I would never expect to see one above about 600hp - hereas a full kill 2JZ can get close to 2000.
@SQ Motorsports Fair enough. I agree that the 2JZ is better however I do not like how much people hate the B58. It is not a bad engine by any stretch of the imagination
@@PlzTouchSomeGrass as BMW engines go it's probably one of the better ones from the last 20 years. The problem is the comparison; the 2JZ was/is one of the most powerful performance engines of all time so it would take a Hall of Fame performance for anything to compare. So I would agree with the idea that it probably never got a fair chance because of the comparison, plus it was starting from a huge handicap in the form of BMW's (well deserved) reputation for poor reliability.
Evan tho I am against the MK5 haters because it’s still a good tunable car for a reasonable price in a few years, but I have to admit the 2JZ suits it pretty well
Give the video 2 years and the comments are all going to be laughing at what this car missed out on when the new motor finally has some race R&D behind it.
That HKS livery is timeless
BMW has left the chat.....
Wh4tEverComesT0Mind lmaooo fax
B58 has left the engine bay
Honestly, I'm getting tired of seeing this. No, Toyota is not going to shove an engine design that was developed 20 years ago into a new car. Get over yourself. The B58 is a strong engine, but you morons who haven't driven the new one OR the old one insist on it not being up to the task simply for being an outsourced motor. I have yet to hear a bad review of the new Supra yet, even from people who have driven, and love the old Supra. Get the stick out of your ass and move on. While I can agree in a sense with the purists that not having a manual kind of sucks, it's meant to appeal to a broader market, and not just you jaded losers. It's meant to be an everyman's car, just like the old one, and an automatic accomplishes that in this day and age, where learning manual is unnecessary.
@@fisherthegoat I dont understand, this is a video about a 2jz swapped 2020 supra, my comment pertains to that, hence the "BMW has left the chat"
@@fisherthegoat I don't understand your point.
Now Toyota needs to bring back the MR2 and the Celica.
They're on the phone with BMW right now!
@@quantumleap4023 lol.
The 86 is the Celica
@@adoyaben no thats a ae86
@@hondamsquad the ae86 is a Corolla, if anything the Corolla hatch is more ae86 than the gt86 other than by specific name
it was just the matter of time somone would do this lmao
Cheeta it's been a while since it was done now before the car was available to the market
This is the 4th one with a jz
2jz fits perfect for the 2020 supra
Well, no shit.... It's basically the same engine lmfao
Coochie Snatcher your not wrong, because Stephan papadakis has proved the b58 is as good if not better than the 2jz
red dragon gamer11029 not really how
Soviyeet Boi have you not seen him dynoing the engine
@@harleypickin217 while he dynoing something was blow up from that b58 while the 4 ar toyota made that still using standart opend deck block achive 1k hp easy while the bmw engine strungling because the stupid engine electronic
It's always pleasant to see a Supra on a racetrack.
that engine swap was bound to happen. thanks for the video dude
daigo saitos team did it first but there was a fuel fire and the harness was cooked its been down for months because harness is on national backorder. So it was impossible to get. Hopefully he can have his up soon too.
This new Supra looks like a mini Viper.
Marcos Desanoski With that spoiler yes 🤔
I just noticed that lol
The new Supra is so ugly...
if only lexus get the toyota ft1 body and 8v
Look like fat viper to me
I'm happy o get to finally hear the exhaust instead of only turbo wooooooshes
That’s the 1000hp 2j you’re hearing lol. Just the best sounding engine on the planet
just let toyota make a special edition supra with a 2JZ engine and BOOM you have one of the best sports cars
they should build 3jz. 4.0, 6 silinder twin turbo or something.. hahaha
The right engine for the right car! 2jz❤️ this is how the new supra had left the factory with his own heart
Now that's how the new supra SHOULD have been built.
2:51 Literally sounds like an airplane
FINALLY!! A proper A90.
Now this is how it's supposed to be made ❤️❤️❤️❤️
This is what we wanted toyota....
30 yr old engine in a brand new chassis isnt what id want lol b58 is great nobodys giving it a shot
TurtleDude29 ik it has potential but there is no replacing the jz... New Bmws sound like ass a tuned jz sounds way better
@@youtubemanswagroy212 i agree with that it doesnt sound that good. Maybe with big cams it would sound more aggressive
What I hope was toyota make their own brand new engine that is better than 2jz and I hopped it is called 3jz or something
@@turtledude2924 made by BMW lol
Toyota: **doesnt want affiliation with video games**
Me: **looks at Forza flag at **0:46****
_Check This Out_
They never said they didn't. If they didn't they wouldn't be in Gran Turismo or have some racecars in FM7.
@@jdmr1c3ing yes they did. this is the reason why theres no toyotas except an suv in forza horizon 4. pretty funny seeing fh4 banners in the background
@@Phika741 except they didn't. They said that back in 2008. The real reason is an exclusivity deal with Gran Turismo.
aty2k they said they didn’t want to be affiliated with illegal street racing
@@theobergeron5274 you're an idiot. Its an exclusivity deal.
The 2JZ just sounds so good. All my favourite engines are because they sound good on top of amazing performance. The B58 might be good but it don’t sound like a 2J
The engine we definitely needed on the new Supra
So these guys are the first to do it right.... Hats off.
Man that's the specifications I want to see as HKS future builder!
Thanks man from Philippines 👌
A modern version of that engine should have been in this car... hopefully the b58 can live up to the jz name
hahahahaha yea fuckin right its been out for years where are they at thoooo???? I only see m3's and other bmws getting the 2jz swap lol
That internal exhaust manifold.. bleh.
Glad HKS agreed...
Love ya HKS
@@the_visionvry6244 The new Supra or the 2JZ?
The 2JZ has been swapped into tons of cars, trucks, SUVs, boats. (haven't seen a plane swap yet though)
There's 2JZ Mustangs, Volvos, Chevys, Crown Vics, Mazdas, Hondas, etc.
@@lilman227 what in the fuck are you talking about?
Toyota was only able to afford the r&d that created the 2jz because they were making money hand over fist. They didnt have the spare cash laying around to justify engineering a new 2jz
That's running some deeeep camber
It’s a drift car. Pretty normal set up
I see so many Forza flags
Now I want to swap that Supra to 2JZ in Forza
that supra is not in forza :(
It is now go check it out!!!!
@@henrybutterfield6591 i have forza 3 not 4 :(
Thats the true a90 supra i know...... with 2jz the legendary engine👌
The B58 is still better
Petar Totev you must be kidding surely...
@@Honda_Man_Sam Im not
I mean mod for mod the b58 is better
@@504chris It's also better stock
The Driver is a straight boss.
ok toyota give him a job to this people and make a super supra now
Neodestro He crashed it there yesterday 😢 Luckily it was only the rear end
I would love if Toyota keep the 2Jz engine into the new A90 production. This car is insane
Was wondering about the sound, didn't realize it was a 2j swap! F* the BMW motor eh?
Danial Pham it’s right in the title stop cappin
Oceanz Made It fr this guy over here
I'm disappointed to see a brand new Supra have their new engine insta-swapped with an old engine but this is an advertising platform for HKS and they have done brilliant work on the 2JZ. Lets hope HKS is developing goodies for the new engine.
The exhaust overtakes te sound of that pieping turbo thats just insane
That's what Toyota should have made
No
@lando hoth The B58 is better than the 2jz
@lando hoth it is
@lando hoth Prove it
@lando hoth All im seeing is a Mk5 supra doing low 11s/high 10s with just a downpipe and race fuel
Now it's a Supra
Just goes to show how great the new engine is when they are putting previos generations engine in lol
It could be great, you don't know. People 2jz swap the new supra because they know everything about the 2jz and nothing about the b58
The B58 is proving to have a ton of potential. Over the next year all the haters are gonna be changing their minds real quick
This comment actually hurts my head.
Have an aspirin dude
@@tiranozavyr889 new engine is pretty Great. It's built to survive a lot more than
stock.
The one and only Supra Sound 😍
Honestly 2020 supra looks so cool
If the original A90 has 2JZ or a newly built engine 3JZ. alot of fans would love this..
This is how it should come from the factory 😎
Wowwww, now this is a real Supra!!!
Now that's the real block for the car
Now that’s a Supra I would buy
1:39
*Alignment technician:* How much camber do you want in the front.
*Owner:* Yes.
Drift spec sexy
I can’t unsee the z4 ness, but still cool none the less...
THAT GUY IS A MASTER DRIVER
This car is beautiful
This swap is perfect
え！谷口さんこのイベント出てたの！？
The supra we all wanted
No
Now it’s a real Supra 👍
Puchito puchito yup with literally nothing in it thats stock or has to do with a supra...
@@greaser3069 2jz
oh my god its beautiful!
wooo 2JZ is back on town
That’s what i call a true supra
Your fucking stupid then
Nothing in its stock you thin skull
Knew it wouldn’t take long until someone had this decked
Thanks HKS
谷口さんいつ見てもかっこいいですね！
HKSカラーのスープラかっこよすぎw
やっぱり谷口さんですねぇー
NOB was saying that the side brake of this car doesn't work
your refering to him as NOB
@@dancearoundtheworld5360 That is his nickname. His full name is Nobuteru, but he gained the nickname NOB which, aside from being short for Nobuteru, stands for "No One Better".
Him 00:04
2:34 to 2:45 one wheel smoking. Looks like the Diff acted weirdly, like an open one, or was it contact with fender flares?
a mustang did that at the ring on a right turn
@@dancearoundtheworld5360 Seen that, but it's a Mustang that's normal, this one has a Sikky rear diff
Thats the fender, something probably got lose when he almost went off track that plus the hay debris and the fact his fitment doesnt look like it allows room for anything in/out so its shredding whatever it is in the wheel well
This is what toyota should’ve done in the first place🤦♂️
Bravo!!!!
Yeah, because putting that boat anchor of a engine is just perfect for a modern car
doabarrellroll 69 so you actually think, that crappy BMW toy motor is better for a Supra???? Really???
@@deivybueno9959 and how would you know ? The car isn't even a year old and people are saying: uhhh my 2J, uhhh BMW bad.
Let me give you a intresting fact: TOM'S Racing ( a Toyota tuner ) made a Supra GT500 Race Car ( you probably have seen it unless you were blind ) and guess what engine it had ? A 3S-GTE, yeah, a I4, why you ask ? Because it was _much_ more lighter and made about 700HP in race trim.
The B58 is a good engine, like the 2JZ. The problem is that people hold it in a pedestal for reasons unknown, and anything that isn't a 2JZ, for them is the antichrist. People in the 90's didn't know that the 2JZ was that good, but given enough time, I'm sure the B58 is going to live up to it's chore of replacing the 2JZ
@@doabarrellroll69 is a joke right? Im not saying the B58 is bad motor, not at all, but how I explain this to you? IS NOT A SUPRA MOTOR!!!! people like me, really fans of the name Supra, would prefere to spend 100.000$ in a 100% Supra with a updated JZ engine. Im sure Toyota would sale 5 times more than with that fake Supra, I mean, is so fake that the only Supra thing is the fiber. Come on man, be real about this, If you want a BMW, please buy a BMW, there are too many good ones to shoose!!!
This is what Toyota should of been done With the Supra
Eboy Slat the 2jz would not pass the emissions standards for a new car, also it would be extremely unreliable
Thats a legit supra
I really wish Castrol will get back in the game and make a throwback livery of their supra.
Now THATS a Toyota!
Those poor rear tyres... What a beast. Well done HKS
That looks and sounds so much better should put a 2JZ in first place
😍 I'd like to see this run on track definitely.
It's a drift car
I hate these comments help me
The only thing that could make this better is using the concept car
Of course Daigo Saito would be one of the 1st people to swap a 2JZ in the new A90 Supra... But I feel like this swap wont be necessary when the OEM BMW B58 Engine gets time to develop and grow in the aftermarket tuning scene. It's already looking like a very promising engine. Just give all the tuning companies some time, and the B58 engine's aftermarket scene is going to grow and mature into basically this generation's 2JZ. Before only euro tuning companies would make aftermarket stuff for this engine, but now that it's in the Supra so many other companies (especially JDM companies) are going to be releasing aftermarket parts for this car it's going to be very exciting to see this platform grow. Honestly, I'm just glad Toyota stuck to their roots and stuck with a Turbo charged inline 6, unlike Nissan who went with a TTV6 in the R35. TTV6's just wont ever be able to sound as good, pure and exciting as a turbo charged straight 6. V6's are just so boring, and lazy.
I never thought I'd see a BMW with a 2jz swaped in, well, this is life nowadays...
Your joke isn’t funny. Theirs plenty of beamers with JZ’s in them all over the world
Now that’s a sight
The pure sound of 2jz.... *orgasms*
tbh this is a good lookin car
Bmw thanks for trying but 2jz will take it from here
This is what supra should've done in the start, keep the new design and interior maybe add the option of manual but they do have paddle shifting, and they should've kept this beautiful 2jz engine....
The car just came out wtf!!!
flip co had the body before it came out
flip co they basically built it from ground up
That seems like a ton of front camber for a 'modern' chassis.
At full turn angle it gets full contact patch
Not on a drift car. It’s set up perfect for the angle kit he’s running. Probably wisefab
The only real MK5 facts
People are talkin shit on the supra
Yet Papadakis is on the way with his 1000hp 2020 supra...
I want a supra now so I can 2JZ swap it. 😍
Damn good drifter too.
It ’s yamaha ’s engine after all LOL!
Yamaha designed head
At least it’s Japanese
Yamaha head Toyota block
@@booqwifist43 yeaa built by japanese ahaha
Yamaha did the 1jz head. No evidence they did the 2jz head...
Now Toyota needs to make a real jdm mk5 supra with a 3jz gte vvti, literally would be the best
Is it just me or does this car really looks like so damn light?
*I was hoping NOB would have done better than he did, in the drift competition..(Which was a strange type of competition in itself) Still, it was nice seeing a driver of his caliber at Goodwood. With the 2nd most D1GP wins, he certainly can drift.*
knob
Probably rusty, and not dialed in with the car, he was up against drifters doing it for a living, and cars they're used to.
@@MrShadowofthewind That's what I was thinking. I think his primary focus for a while now, has been grip driving, I.E., hired gun for Tsukuba time attack runs and Super GT, as well as the 86/BRZ race series in Japan. I'd imagine with a busy race schedule and acting as a hired gun for teams/shops/privateers at Tsukuba time attack events, he probably doesn't have much time to be able to shakedown/test the A90.
Am I the only one in the comments who likes the stock B58 engine? Yeah it’s not a Toyota engine but it has everything the old 2jz was known for, and I think it will be a hit with the tuner community
Papadakis Racing has a teardown video of the new engine and I will say it's good to see it's a closed block design; a huge problem with BMW engines is the open block / multimetal sleeve design. It doesn't stay square under pressure and you can't deck it, so once the head gasket blows (which happens very quickly if you start pushing boost) the engine is disposable.
However, it's still a VANOS engine, which is a design I've never agreed with: gratuitous complexity seemingly for its own sake. Highly prone to failure and it's really limiting at high performance levels. I doubt this engine will ever see anything like 2JZ power levels because it will be too damn hard to reengineer the VANOS system to get enough lift and duration.
I'm sure there's tuneability in this engine, but I would never expect to see one above about 600hp - hereas a full kill 2JZ can get close to 2000.
@SQ Motorsports Fair enough. I agree that the 2JZ is better however I do not like how much people hate the B58. It is not a bad engine by any stretch of the imagination
@@PlzTouchSomeGrass as BMW engines go it's probably one of the better ones from the last 20 years. The problem is the comparison; the 2JZ was/is one of the most powerful performance engines of all time so it would take a Hall of Fame performance for anything to compare. So I would agree with the idea that it probably never got a fair chance because of the comparison, plus it was starting from a huge handicap in the form of BMW's (well deserved) reputation for poor reliability.
i dont like the 2020 supra but every time i see this wide body hks supra i think it looks sexy
How it should've been made in the first place
I honestly would have been completely fine if Toyota did this
IS THAT A SUPRA??
No it's a prius
Evan tho I am against the MK5 haters because it’s still a good tunable car for a reasonable price in a few years, but I have to admit the 2JZ suits it pretty well
2jzgte is jeans of engines. It suits everything
Теперь это настоящий японец с японским двигателем.
а то придумали ставить несусветное говно!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Теперь это настоящая Toyota Supra
I love car toyota supra😍😍😍
Idk if this is an insult but on a few passes that 2JZ sounded like a Ferrari V12
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Cool! I'd love to see a Twin Turbo Coyote 5.0 swap
Well that’s something you’ll never see. Guarantee that..
@@allspooledup2584 if an LS swapped Mk4 exists then an Mk5 will
IN BLACK, the GR Supra looks like a FRS x a Dodge Viper
Give the video 2 years and the comments are all going to be laughing at what this car missed out on when the new motor finally has some race R&D behind it.
Ikr
Which camera are you shooting?
Nobody needs another engine than a 2JZ - and the results we are listening and viewing @goodwood - absolutely fantastic sound as we like!
ofc we do. the 2j is old AF and unefficient.
Hey a “NEW” SUPRA !