Which commanders do you think are the most powerful in Foundations Jumpstart? Are you planning on building any of the commanders we talked about today? What are the sweet cards that we missed for the 99?
100% Dionus. More than doubling the amount of mana elves can generate is absurd. I've been goldfishing the deck and the number of turn 5-6 kills the deck can nab is wild.
For Dionus I love the idea of vehicles. The elves tap to crew, and then untap to attack as well. Is it good? No... but the idea of an elf turning on a car, putting a brick on the accelerator, and then letting it rip into combat along side them :D
This is cool. I’d love to see an episode where we get to see JLK rate and talk about all his commander decks 😂 Please make that episode finally happen.
Aphelia really appreciates being able to give a creature first or double strike. That way her ability can activate twice in a combat against the same player since it's two instances of snakes dealing combat damage to a player.
I think in general the life loss doublers will be better than the first/double strike enablers available to black and green (which is mostly limited to equipment). Two instances of halving someone's life total means they're still alive, just with 1/4 of their life.
I am likely not the only one to have said this, but we need to create an umbrella “Equine” type to capture Pegasus, Horse and Unicorn. Like how they did for Naga to Snake. It would really open the gates for pony decks to run/fly free in the aggro/midrange fields and skies.
I mean they should just errata the Pegasus and unicorn creature type to horse. If humanoid lions are cats, I think a pony with an ice cream cone on its forehead can be a horse…
Ocelot Pride feels like it would be really good in Thurid. Its not a horse itself, but since you’re already gaining life you’ll easily be able to trigger his end step ability and get more copies of your horses
Slinza, the Spiked Stampede not getting enough love here being the first proper Gruul Beast Commander. Took 20 years but Wizards is finally giving the Onslaught Beasts the tribal support they needed so so badly.
funny thing about Slinza that I didn't notice until the other day... the "big creature enters" fight trigger does *not* specify that it's a creature you control. If you have the mana, Slinza can fight on opposing creatures entering too
@ kinda didn’t wanna go auras since we already have so many monoW aura commanders already :( went with a power 2 or less subtheme as well for even more card draw.
@@pedrogilquaresma1791 You're right. I had seen a couple of previewed anime cards from the base set, I thought this was regarding those. It's weird, but not atypically greedy to make cards unique for jumpstart packs...
While i'm not building any new decks with these as a commander, my Omo deck welcomes both Shroofus and Dionus to the ranks as they will really, really help out.
1:28:11 I've been playing this game for decades and I love "crime" decks (as Amy the Amazonian calls them) and I completely missed BOTH these drawbacks from Rev's text box. glad I watched this before getting her for my Evelyn deck.
In my Gorgon/Snake Deck right now i use "Sosuke's Summons" persistent card as long as no one remove graveyard. Because i can play small 1/1, 1/2, 1/4 snakes and get a free spell back and cast for 2x more small snakes ramping my board faster + i got "doubling season" + "Primal Vigor" + "parallel lives" + "Second Harvest" + "Parallel Evolution" if not dealt with board can be fun :) Same setup in my Koma, Cosmos Serpent deck. Only downside is the mana cost and setup time & possible removal.
Lazotep Quarry is another good land in Evereth. It's more redundancy in your mana base along with High Market and Phyrexian Tower. It can also reanimate your commander or another creature and works with token synergies.
I love the first commander, it forces your opponent(s) to wrestle you with spells every turn, so they don't get hit themselves. If you add milling to that you have them in total panic mode once Aphelia enters.
I feel like Shroofus lends himself more towards a combat trick or voltron style deck that ends up going wide with the tokens that he makes. Most of the saproling producers besides Tendershoot. Getting 1 fungus counter per YOUR upkeep and then having to remove 3 to make 1 sap is pretty inefficient. The proliferate can help speed that up, but I feel like you should maybe be leaning into planeswalkers or something in order to get a little more value out of those proliferations. For my part I'm building him using plenty of 1 mana ramp and some combat tricks to make several tokens right out the gate.
Tbh, I'm surprised you guys didn't mention Animation Module for Evereth. By itself it just makes every one mana you have available into a counter on her, but provided you can generate a treasure or mana when the servos die, you can make Evereth infinitely big.
Sheesh Dionus is STRONG :O it would've been strong just to have Elves untap after being tapped, but they also get bigger?? I'm amazed he doesn't have an ability that says "Other Elves you control have 'tap: draw a card'" lol
I think Evereth will be one to watch, R/B aristisac is another already potent shell and shes soo good for it, She will get large soo fast and its soo cheap to boom her for massive damage to the entire board
Glissa Sunseeker can also be tapped for 0 to destroy Moxen or Mana Crypt (should it ever be unbanned). Many artifacts also cost 0, though they are not very strong in most cases.
1:16:00 I want to draw some attention to the combo of Merrow Commerce with Drowner of Secrets... it says to tap a merfolk. Not a merfolk creature. Merrow Commerce is a merfolk!!! 1:43:00 NEMATA GROVE GUARDIAN. No meat, only grass.
I am not sure I like them tacking "lose half your life" on so many cards so close together in my favorite colour, but I like everything else about Aphelia, and at 5 mana it is pretty fair.
I was looking through the set and saw Ivora and immediately built a deck on Untap. My experience with Decaying Time Loop while goldfishjng the deck unfortunately wasn’t great tbh. You often don’t have many cards in your hand to begin with, and each time you cast it you have to spend 4 mana and go down a card, so you can’t really chain it with itself very well. If anyone else has other opinions let me know, I think the synergy is really funny and I haven’t seen how it plays in an actual game so I could be wrong about it.
When you talked about Dionus, Elvish Archdruid you forgot to mention stuff like Yeva, Nature's Herald and other flash shenanigans, untapping your mana-generating elves and pumping them up on each opponent's turn seems pretty sick to me.
I guess, to be fair, I'm glad they didn't design Dionus to be TOO powerful. Elfball is already a strong deck without the free untap/counter. (I know elves already run the other green creature untappers usually but still)
I was able to finish my Evereth deck a while ago. And after lots of testing, she is MEAN. On out of 4 games with her she usually wins on turn 4 or 5. It’s so easy to kill the board with her
I think Rev is going to to be a crazy commander built right. Waiting for her to drop though before I pick her up. No way I’m spending $70 on her right now
As someone with the Vraksa Gorgon Tribal deck on archidekt. I can proudly say… please use snakes, they are so much better lol I will be in the corner losing and having a blast with expensive snake ladies
I need to point out that the Galadhrim Brigade says "other elves," so if you make 4 copies, they get +3/+3, and the rest get +4/+4. This is very important. There are other elves that also say "other elves you control." Just remember this. I gotta say, I hope they print regular versions of these commanders. I'm not an anime fan.
Damn, that trash can at the beginning would fix me and that made me sad. But then they talked about pretty cardboard and I was less sad. I actually haven't been able to buy any Magic cards for a few months now because my trash can doesn't have all that in it. please send me what was in the trash can...or just the stuff that was on the floor even. Five second rule :)
100% throwing Dionus into my Galadriel Light of Valinor deck. Lets me use Imperious Perfect, Immaculate Magistrate, Archdruid, etc and attack with them once they're all loaded with counters? busted
The best part about Dionus is that he's the best elf Commander ever made but he'll see less play than Lathril and Voja. Thus, you can run a stronger elf deck with less stigma than alternative, more popular commanders.
I dont get it either, I think Dionus is insanely strong. Other lists say "use him to power down your elves deck" etc. But I think he buffs elves dramatically.
At least you can fast forward and the sections are marked. Can't ask for more than that. But it is very annoying when driving or otherwise engaged and you can't skip
Which commanders do you think are the most powerful in Foundations Jumpstart? Are you planning on building any of the commanders we talked about today? What are the sweet cards that we missed for the 99?
100% building Shroofus, and Thurid is going into my Lathiel unicorn deck as a midgame accelerant.
100% Dionus. More than doubling the amount of mana elves can generate is absurd. I've been goldfishing the deck and the number of turn 5-6 kills the deck can nab is wild.
I’m building a gornog deck for sure. Making creatures permanently a coward? And they lose other tribes? Yes, please.
No niv mizzet?
Rev is my favorite, but I'll probably just add her to my Anowon deck.
For Dionus I love the idea of vehicles. The elves tap to crew, and then untap to attack as well. Is it good? No... but the idea of an elf turning on a car, putting a brick on the accelerator, and then letting it rip into combat along side them :D
Priest of Titania taps for each elf on the battlefield, so it's even better than usual, since there are a ton of random elves in many decks.
This is cool. I’d love to see an episode where we get to see JLK rate and talk about all his commander decks 😂 Please make that episode finally happen.
Aphelia really appreciates being able to give a creature first or double strike. That way her ability can activate twice in a combat against the same player since it's two instances of snakes dealing combat damage to a player.
I think in general the life loss doublers will be better than the first/double strike enablers available to black and green (which is mostly limited to equipment). Two instances of halving someone's life total means they're still alive, just with 1/4 of their life.
I am likely not the only one to have said this, but we need to create an umbrella “Equine” type to capture Pegasus, Horse and Unicorn. Like how they did for Naga to Snake. It would really open the gates for pony decks to run/fly free in the aggro/midrange fields and skies.
I mean they should just errata the Pegasus and unicorn creature type to horse. If humanoid lions are cats, I think a pony with an ice cream cone on its forehead can be a horse…
Ocelot Pride feels like it would be really good in Thurid. Its not a horse itself, but since you’re already gaining life you’ll easily be able to trigger his end step ability and get more copies of your horses
For Shroofus - My first include was Verdeloth the Ancient. We all need a big tree to protect us and our friends.
One of my favorite treefolk and available in the old frame, great card!
Slinza, the Spiked Stampede not getting enough love here being the first proper Gruul Beast Commander.
Took 20 years but Wizards is finally giving the Onslaught Beasts the tribal support they needed so so badly.
tried to build it, there arent enough good beasts to play it well.
Absolutely weird we got two simic beast commanders before a gruul one.
Im still waiting for a Naya tribal Beast commander so I can use my Godsire in a deck!
@@PirateMaster45 Rule 0 Godsire?
funny thing about Slinza that I didn't notice until the other day... the "big creature enters" fight trigger does *not* specify that it's a creature you control. If you have the mana, Slinza can fight on opposing creatures entering too
My favorite is Brigone. She was so fun to build around as a +1+1 counter deck and it's a really strong mid tier deck :D
Made her into a Aura Crusader. Slap dat Voltron on her and watch her Atk go up
@ kinda didn’t wanna go auras since we already have so many monoW aura commanders already :( went with a power 2 or less subtheme as well for even more card draw.
Give me more Jellyfish commanders damnit.
Cynette is a ton of fun!
I think that the only other one is The Reality Chip
I absolutely LOVE the deckbox from the first kickstarter and I am excited to get 2 more!
Anime art persuaded me to always use these cards
Same here. Guarantees it for me!
I want a proxie of rev with a better art
@@claudioriquelmenunez3218 honestly same want a full art of evereth or something
I'm not big on the anime style. Love the cards. Thanks for the breakdown!
these are alternative arts, you're way more likely to see the normal western art on them
@@gronizherz3603 there is no "regular art" for these jumpstart cards. Just this one.
@@gronizherz3603 the new jumpstart exclusive cards are only available with this artwork. No "normal western art" until a reprint happens.
@@gronizherz3603 That's not true. These cards are only available in Jumpstart and (currently, at least) only come with the anime art.
@@pedrogilquaresma1791 You're right.
I had seen a couple of previewed anime cards from the base set, I thought this was regarding those.
It's weird, but not atypically greedy to make cards unique for jumpstart packs...
While i'm not building any new decks with these as a commander, my Omo deck welcomes both Shroofus and Dionus to the ranks as they will really, really help out.
Shroofus my King
Evereth and Rev are *perfect* for my Vihaan deck!
I instantly put together a Shoofus list the moment I saw him, he is perfect :)
1:28:11 I've been playing this game for decades and I love "crime" decks (as Amy the Amazonian calls them) and I completely missed BOTH these drawbacks from Rev's text box. glad I watched this before getting her for my Evelyn deck.
Brewed a budget list for Ivora the day she was announced, I feel extremely validated by this episode
I like the lighthearted and sweet vibe of this Josh Murphy guy ! More of him, I say !
Slinza, the Spiked Stampede is the commander iblike the most from this
In my Gorgon/Snake Deck right now i use "Sosuke's Summons" persistent card as long as no one remove graveyard. Because i can play small 1/1, 1/2, 1/4 snakes and get a free spell back and cast for 2x more small snakes ramping my board faster + i got "doubling season" + "Primal Vigor" + "parallel lives" + "Second Harvest" + "Parallel Evolution" if not dealt with board can be fun :)
Same setup in my Koma, Cosmos Serpent deck. Only downside is the mana cost and setup time & possible removal.
Lazotep Quarry is another good land in Evereth. It's more redundancy in your mana base along with High Market and Phyrexian Tower.
It can also reanimate your commander or another creature and works with token synergies.
Msn i wanted a Gorgon tribal commander. While it also being snakes makes sense, it also means that most of the deck will be snakes instead of Gorgons.
Hythonia exists
@emiach ok sorry a non crap Gorgon tribal commander
I saw Shroofus and immediately built a deck around him cuz he's SOOO FREAKING CUTE
I love the first commander, it forces your opponent(s) to wrestle you with spells every turn, so they don't get hit themselves. If you add milling to that you have them in total panic mode once Aphelia enters.
I feel like Shroofus lends himself more towards a combat trick or voltron style deck that ends up going wide with the tokens that he makes. Most of the saproling producers besides Tendershoot. Getting 1 fungus counter per YOUR upkeep and then having to remove 3 to make 1 sap is pretty inefficient. The proliferate can help speed that up, but I feel like you should maybe be leaning into planeswalkers or something in order to get a little more value out of those proliferations. For my part I'm building him using plenty of 1 mana ramp and some combat tricks to make several tokens right out the gate.
Lashwrithe and Nightmare Lash are perfect in Evereth. Personally I went Voltron with a ton of the cheap black undying effects. She's really fun!
Ophiomancer seems bad in the deck, in that you would normally have a snake, meaning it wouldn't do anything.
Good catch!
There are some decent gorgons they didn't mention. Some could definitely go well this this deck, and others are just cool for the tribal theme.
does peregrin actually make a food for each sap off shroofus?
Taeko, the Patient Avalanche
first card is at 5:35
Tbh, I'm surprised you guys didn't mention Animation Module for Evereth. By itself it just makes every one mana you have available into a counter on her, but provided you can generate a treasure or mana when the servos die, you can make Evereth infinitely big.
MURPH!!!!!! I don't have favorites.... but you're my favorite
Sheesh Dionus is STRONG :O it would've been strong just to have Elves untap after being tapped, but they also get bigger?? I'm amazed he doesn't have an ability that says "Other Elves you control have 'tap: draw a card'" lol
I love ivora.
I used to play mono red brallin
This one gives me an other hope for discard :)
I think Evereth will be one to watch, R/B aristisac is another already potent shell and shes soo good for it, She will get large soo fast and its soo cheap to boom her for massive damage to the entire board
And now.. we wait for the Foundations episode. I hope it comes out sooner than later, I'm having fun with the new Ninjas they added in Arena.
Glissa Sunseeker can also be tapped for 0 to destroy Moxen or Mana Crypt (should it ever be unbanned). Many artifacts also cost 0, though they are not very strong in most cases.
Not mentioning Ozox the Clattering King in this video is absolutely criminal. One of the strongest mono black commanders we have seen in a long time
1:16:00 I want to draw some attention to the combo of Merrow Commerce with Drowner of Secrets... it says to tap a merfolk. Not a merfolk creature. Merrow Commerce is a merfolk!!!
1:43:00 NEMATA GROVE GUARDIAN. No meat, only grass.
I am not sure I like them tacking "lose half your life" on so many cards so close together in my favorite colour, but I like everything else about Aphelia, and at 5 mana it is pretty fair.
I like Hurska sweet-tooth. It’s a selesnya life gain deck and it’s a cute gummy bear
I was looking through the set and saw Ivora and immediately built a deck on Untap. My experience with Decaying Time Loop while goldfishjng the deck unfortunately wasn’t great tbh. You often don’t have many cards in your hand to begin with, and each time you cast it you have to spend 4 mana and go down a card, so you can’t really chain it with itself very well. If anyone else has other opinions let me know, I think the synergy is really funny and I haven’t seen how it plays in an actual game so I could be wrong about it.
I love anime art! Keep em coming and I’ll keep buying 😆
When you talked about Dionus, Elvish Archdruid you forgot to mention stuff like Yeva, Nature's Herald and other flash shenanigans, untapping your mana-generating elves and pumping them up on each opponent's turn seems pretty sick to me.
The issue is that the ability specifies "When this creature becomes tapped ON YOUR TURN" :( I had the same dreams until I realized that lol
I guess, to be fair, I'm glad they didn't design Dionus to be TOO powerful. Elfball is already a strong deck without the free untap/counter. (I know elves already run the other green creature untappers usually but still)
@@Doombot2point0 Oooh right, I must have glanced over that part too lol
I get what you're saying, it's probably strong enough as it is :P
What do you think about Wizards implementing “nested” creature types for MTG? Ex: All unicorns are horses but not all horses are unicorns.
Evereth is immediately going into the 99 of my Olivia, Opulent Outlaw deck.
Dionus goes into my Lathril deck… for no apparent reason 😂
Love Gorgons ! I think need some more Gorgon cards 😭 🐍
We got our first legendary jackal and you didn't even talk about him!
Thurid is a slam dunk in changeling tribal.
vid starts at 5:09
I was able to finish my Evereth deck a while ago. And after lots of testing, she is MEAN. On out of 4 games with her she usually wins on turn 4 or 5. It’s so easy to kill the board with her
Kusari gama is so good in aphelia. If the opponent blocks, it kills all their creatures.
Chandra's Ignition + Evereth, Viceroy of Plunder = profit😄
I hope they do more of the anime art. They are some of my favorites.
beastmaster ascension for shroofus would also go insane
dionus is insane with anything that blink it so u can do it again.
I think Rev is going to to be a crazy commander built right. Waiting for her to drop though before I pick her up. No way I’m spending $70 on her right now
As someone with the Vraksa Gorgon Tribal deck on archidekt. I can proudly say… please use snakes, they are so much better lol
I will be in the corner losing and having a blast with expensive snake ladies
RIP, I wanted to tips on Gornog. The coward’s mechanic is so funny
smooth transition rachel!
I need to point out that the Galadhrim Brigade says "other elves," so if you make 4 copies, they get +3/+3, and the rest get +4/+4. This is very important. There are other elves that also say "other elves you control." Just remember this. I gotta say, I hope they print regular versions of these commanders. I'm not an anime fan.
But I already watch on 2x speed! (But I fully support making it more detailed for new folks)
Thurid looks like its best home is in the 99 of Ur Dragon Changeling Tribal
Why no Fumulis overview? Was hoping for that as the one I'm most interested in building.
Will there be an Game Knights Episode with Foundations Commander? If yes, when? 😅 Greetings from Germany.
Damn, that trash can at the beginning would fix me and that made me sad.
But then they talked about pretty cardboard and I was less sad.
I actually haven't been able to buy any Magic cards for a few months now because my trash can doesn't have all that in it.
please send me what was in the trash can...or just the stuff that was on the floor even.
Five second rule :)
Verifiable longbow. Dang it you said it as I was typing
Kinda sold me on ivora, ngl ^^"
Gotta brew with that to see if today is the day my fever dream of building a red infect deck can become reality >:)
I've been working on Fumulus as a sacrifice deck. Seems sweet and annoying.
Gorm The Great is also another funny add to Apehlia
100% throwing Dionus into my Galadriel Light of Valinor deck. Lets me use Imperious Perfect, Immaculate Magistrate, Archdruid, etc and attack with them once they're all loaded with counters? busted
The best part about Dionus is that he's the best elf Commander ever made but he'll see less play than Lathril and Voja. Thus, you can run a stronger elf deck with less stigma than alternative, more popular commanders.
I dont get it either, I think Dionus is insanely strong. Other lists say "use him to power down your elves deck" etc. But I think he buffs elves dramatically.
It's all about Abomination of Llanowar
I'm sad with aphelia, they didn't mention her best friend, butch tunnel snake. Tunnel snakes rule!
Shroofus can go out of hands very early if you dont take care of it
Priest of Titania does more than that ;)
I could have sworn I heard Mario in this video a good number of times 😂
My buddy and I both want to build Aphelia but I wanna focus gorgons, also I hate the anime arts 😂 not to be negative lol
the only way this episode could be sillier is if rachel was on a desert bus, oh wait
You changed the thumbnail :( I thought the anime eyes on Rachel was really funny!
I wasn't able to fit a double sleeved deck in that deck box. I havent used it
What's the general opinion of this set in the commander community?
Thought this episode was called anime style commanders from foundations.
I might try Dionus in Raggadragga.
Hey for Christmas episode of game knight why not try make a anime Commander deck
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the lifelink applies after she leaves the battlefield?!
IDC. I won FNM with Cynette Jelly Drover. It was almost too much fun.
oh come on you guys didn't talk about Charix with Plagon 17 damage hitter
We keep talking about new commander content, is there any news about the bracket system?
The lack of Slinza in this video makes me sad.
I don't think demilich and Neerdiv work the way you mentioned. Demilich doesn't cast the card from graveyards
Correct, but Demilich itself can be cast from your graveyard, so that's something.
no mention of storm herd for thurid???? or did i miss it
Drink every time they say “Neat”
I love this cards
You missed the ninja turtle!!
Conservatively 30% of this video is ads, get your bag I guess but maybe you could consider cutting that down just a little
At least you can fast forward and the sections are marked. Can't ask for more than that. But it is very annoying when driving or otherwise engaged and you can't skip
@@SimKill you can do something except for when you can't. Got it. Truly insightful.
you need to pay for your shit. 5 bucks a month to become a patreon or listen to some ads
Or since you clearly consume the content freely ENJOY the fact the ads let you see the content for free 👍
Spoiled. It’s free content for new players. They’re fine.
I do want a thurid deck