the exhibited enthusiasm makes this more fun! Plus, it's great that father & son ride together. This "fortune" is something I know, too. It was positive decades later to send Grandfather and Grandon off together. This was especially cool!
i don't want to sound like a crybabby but,,,, watching this really hurts. explanation: i was a very active rider in the 80's/90's, a mid to front pack 'b' rider in the RMEC. i gave it all up and moved to Belize in '98. my last bike was a 95 KTM 300 exc i sold it and me and my wife brought with us to XR400's, thinking about parts availability in central america. the xr's rusted out after a few years and now all i have are videos like yours! watching all the improvements, fuel injection, lectrons, ect,, i just weep and reach for more beers. i will continue to watch you videos,, they are fun. but just know,,, i am crying in my beers! thanks for the entertainment!!!
In conclusion what I am hearing since the beginning of the build, is as good as the YZ is modified, the Fantic with it's motor dialed for moderate to hard endure and with the few more small mods you have mentioned are comming, will by far shine over the YZ when it comes to more technical moderate to difficult terrain (Moderate to hard core endure). I will even predict that in due time Yahama will introduce a similar bike that we will see Cody Webb riding.
Take us up on some steep switchbacks in the woods and high alpine country for an evaluation. Where you spend much your time in 1st and 2nd gear. Maybe some 3rd.
First off love the content. I had three YZ's converted for the woods and loved them. In 2019 I bought a new 250X and absolutely hated it. Out of the 30 woods bikes so far. Believe it or not my 24 300 SX is the one. Mako kit and skid plate and lets go riding. Hopefully Yamaha makes the YZ counter balanced, electric start with backup kickstarter. Oh and lower the seat height for us leprechauns. Oh and maybe next time. Do some lap time comparisons? That would be cool to see the outcome. Keep the vids going, it helps me get through winter here in Canada.
Loving this Fantic content - you have put out more content on this bike than anyone over here in Europe! Out of interest, have you ever tried a Beta RX300? I know a few people who use that as an XC style bike rather than MX, I wonder how that would stack up against the Fantic or even the RR Racing for your kind of riding and racing…
@ yeah I know you have Cecilia, (and your comment is what I thought you’d say) I just wondered if you’d tried the RX, I’m curious how that stacks up against the Fantic. Thanks for all the info etc 👍🏻
that fantic sounds great... good lug. also, those yamaha rear nissin brakes are super touchy. hated them in my yz250fx. for some reason, i have nissin on my rieju but not grabby.
really enjoy this ! kepp up the good work. Have the fantic more oil ratio in their "TPI" than the KTM ? If you are are GET dealer can you give it more oil for safety ? or are the box closed ? I know TSP cracked the KTM box
I'm in my early 60's and ride an older KTM300 and to lighten the clutch pull I switched to 2.5wt fork oil in the clutch and an Enduro Engineering roller bearing clutch lever and it did make a noticeable difference on the clutch pull but then I got really lazy and installed a Rekluse and love how much easier it is to ride but I can still do clutch maneuvers if needed, also the Mako 360 will make a huge difference with vibrations, the Mako is a game changer when it comes to comfort and at my age I'll take what I can get.
Nice comparison ride with 2 great bikes. Now we want to see you compare it with the 24/25 KTM’s and Huskies. So far the Fantic really impresses. The new tech appears to be nicely integrated and totally functional. I wish them success.
What bike would you recommend for a 40yr old dad that wants to ride with his son? just got my boy a 50 for xmas and I wanna hit the trails with him. Ive ridden motorcycles my whole life but Ill need a jack of all trades dirtbike.
@@DeadRomanget a little 4 stroke to ride. You don’t really want a 2 stroke because you’ll be smoking your son in the face plus the 2 strokes load up bad if you go slow. Get a trail 4 stroke like a 230 or 300F. No smoke in your sons face then.
Yes, they do have a 125 Enduro. It's the Fantic XE125!👍 They are doing really great in the european E1 enduro class. The 125cc N1 Dutch Enduro championship was also won on a Fantic XE125.
Yeah. I raced a 125XC for a season. Loved it. Just couldn’t afford to keep putting top ends in it. It didn’t break, just needed maintenance to stay fresh
I second what carlatamanczyk said go down valley or whatever do we have to wait for the thaw?we really appreciate your work but honestly you need to ride real hard enduro type trails off camber super technical switchbacks with horrible traction maybe some greasy 💩with A+AA class set ups too make a real evaluation. Maybe a fully GYT 250X WOODS WEAPON with starter also? THANKS for your content from 🤙💯🇺🇸
Who is seething??? Maybe people liked the channel the it used to be, you know sort of a mix. Now it's Fantic channel. I have 5 different brands of bikes in garage...I don't how some of you guys get so caught up in one brand.
@@gumpycognac4505I think a lot of us 🍊 riders have been waiting for yam to drop a 300. It will be a few years before they release anything with significant updates. This fantic has been around for a minute. A lot of orange guys are YZ guys
the exhibited enthusiasm makes this more fun! Plus, it's great that father & son ride together. This "fortune" is something I know, too. It was positive decades later to send Grandfather and Grandon off together. This was especially cool!
So awesome you get to ride with your kids. Keep up the great videos and content !
Thanks so much!
i don't want to sound like a crybabby but,,,, watching this really hurts.
explanation: i was a very active rider in the 80's/90's, a mid to front pack 'b' rider in the RMEC.
i gave it all up and moved to Belize in '98. my last bike was a 95 KTM 300 exc i sold it and me and my wife brought with us to XR400's, thinking about parts availability in central america.
the xr's rusted out after a few years and now all i have are videos like yours!
watching all the improvements, fuel injection, lectrons, ect,, i just weep and reach for more beers.
i will continue to watch you videos,, they are fun.
but just know,,, i am crying in my beers!
thanks for the entertainment!!!
In conclusion what I am hearing since the beginning of the build, is as good as the YZ is modified, the Fantic with it's motor dialed for moderate to hard endure and with the few more small mods you have mentioned are comming, will by far shine over the YZ when it comes to more technical moderate to difficult terrain (Moderate to hard core endure). I will even predict that in due time Yahama will introduce a similar bike that we will see Cody Webb riding.
Hitliss is awesome! Great video!
Take us up on some steep switchbacks in the woods and high alpine country for an evaluation. Where you spend much your time in 1st and 2nd gear. Maybe some 3rd.
I will when it’s not covered in snow
Love the yz for woods! Apex head , 13/50 , 13oz flywheel weight m5b evo rear tire, thats gotta be fun riding with your kid I'm jealous.
First off love the content. I had three YZ's converted for the woods and loved them. In 2019 I bought a new 250X and absolutely hated it.
Out of the 30 woods bikes so far. Believe it or not my 24 300 SX is the one. Mako kit and skid plate and lets go riding. Hopefully Yamaha makes the YZ counter balanced, electric start with backup kickstarter. Oh and lower the seat height for us leprechauns.
Oh and maybe next time. Do some lap time comparisons? That would be cool to see the outcome. Keep the vids going, it helps me get through winter here in Canada.
Can I ask what you hated about the YZ250X?
I can tell this Fantic would be a bike I could get along with 😉
Loving this Fantic content - you have put out more content on this bike than anyone over here in Europe!
Out of interest, have you ever tried a Beta RX300? I know a few people who use that as an XC style bike rather than MX, I wonder how that would stack up against the Fantic or even the RR Racing for your kind of riding and racing…
I own a 24 300RR race. The Fantic is way better in my opinion. The beta just doesn’t rev like this bike or my KTM
@ yeah I know you have Cecilia, (and your comment is what I thought you’d say) I just wondered if you’d tried the RX, I’m curious how that stacks up against the Fantic.
Thanks for all the info etc 👍🏻
@ I think the RX would be very good. Completely different motor.
🤘What a fun ride!🤘
that fantic sounds great... good lug. also, those yamaha rear nissin brakes are super touchy. hated them in my yz250fx. for some reason, i have nissin on my rieju but not grabby.
Happy New Years!!!!
Fantic sounds crisper and cleaner or is that just me? But then again i ride a vintage 2010 KTM XCW and I love the bike, it does everything I need
It is for sure. That’s the FI working. I always jet bikes a little rich because I don’t like seized motors and my kids hold them wide open sometimes
U go to get renthal 7/8 or twin wall bars and an fmf pipe and silencer for the fantic with a boyesen rad valve and watcher pump
No
@ u should that would bee a good base set up for it
@@mattjones1792 Terrible idea
@ I hate 7/8” bars and I don’t like Renthals in general. FMF doesn’t make a silencer for it and I don’t know what a “watcher” pump is.
@ not at all
Too funny: "Oh, no! Now I'm crashng."
I’m jealous, maybe one day I’ll be able to buy a new bike and retire the a 99 yz250
I think both bikes are amazing.
Looking forward to the upcoming content on this bike.
Curious to what You are gonna do with the suspension? 🤘🤘
Gonna be good
really enjoy this ! kepp up the good work. Have the fantic more oil ratio in their "TPI" than the KTM ? If you are are GET dealer can you give it more oil for safety ? or are the box closed ? I know TSP cracked the KTM box
I don’t know the answers to those questions yet
I'm in my early 60's and ride an older KTM300 and to lighten the clutch pull I switched to 2.5wt fork oil in the clutch and an Enduro Engineering roller bearing clutch lever and it did make a noticeable difference on the clutch pull but then I got really lazy and installed a Rekluse and love how much easier it is to ride but I can still do clutch maneuvers if needed, also the Mako 360 will make a huge difference with vibrations, the Mako is a game changer when it comes to comfort and at my age I'll take what I can get.
Are you gonna run wrap arounds or flags and just haven't yet because you plan on changing out the bars? Just curious. Love the content as always!
Flags. Coming soon
YZ's are the best canvas for a bike build masterpiece
Im wondering if you delete the oil injection, could you put a Yz250 tank and plastics on it? I'm just curious, lol. Thanks for the great video!
@@masond.4931 no, because it still needs a fuel pump
Can’t want to see a ktm300 vs the fantic and what bike you like better.
Mr. Fantic 😀, what kind of back packs are the two of you wearing?
WLF enduro. I have a lot of videos on them. Best in biz
Nice comparison ride with 2 great bikes. Now we want to see you compare it with the 24/25 KTM’s and Huskies. So far the Fantic really impresses. The new tech appears to be nicely integrated and totally functional. I wish them success.
That’s next. I filmed that video yesterday
What bike would you recommend for a 40yr old dad that wants to ride with his son? just got my boy a 50 for xmas and I wanna hit the trails with him. Ive ridden motorcycles my whole life but Ill need a jack of all trades dirtbike.
Man that’s impossible for me to say. Anything that you can afford and excites you
For just riding around with your son on a 50? Probably a Surron or similar. Cheap, quiet, and will go anywhere your son can.
@@Marleysdad808 i appreciate that suggestion, but Ive ridden the surrons and I am not a fan.
@@DeadRoman
Beta 200RR!!
@@DeadRomanget a little 4 stroke to ride. You don’t really want a 2 stroke because you’ll be smoking your son in the face plus the 2 strokes load up bad if you go slow. Get a trail 4 stroke like a 230 or 300F. No smoke in your sons face then.
Those foot peg lowering kits, who does them? Thanks
System Tech Racing.
YZ250
Does it have the
GYTR Flywheel ?
No. It has another weight. Not sure which one
where did you get the lowerd foot pegs for the YZ at ?
Carapaks , stainless steel and reasonably priced
Nah im keen too he was talking about a guy that makes lowering kits.
System Tech Racing makes the kit. It’s really good.
300 is a tractor.
You need a 150.
Hope Fantic make a 125 Enduro.
Yes, they do have a 125 Enduro.
It's the Fantic XE125!👍
They are doing really great in the european E1 enduro class.
The 125cc N1 Dutch Enduro championship was also won on a Fantic XE125.
Yeah. I raced a 125XC for a season. Loved it. Just couldn’t afford to keep putting top ends in it. It didn’t break, just needed maintenance to stay fresh
Why does the Fantic have a get ecu map switch
Because it has a GET ecu stock
I second what carlatamanczyk said go down valley or whatever do we have to wait for the thaw?we really appreciate your work but honestly you need to ride real hard enduro type trails off camber super technical switchbacks with horrible traction maybe some greasy 💩with A+AA class set ups too make a real evaluation. Maybe a fully GYT 250X WOODS WEAPON with starter also? THANKS for your content from 🤙💯🇺🇸
You do have to wait because my hand is still healing and it’s winter in CO. Buy one yourself if you want to speed the process up.
@@luigimassello4357 wait, your name is Luigi. Are you going to kill me walking down the road if I don’t do what you want???
@@highlandcyclesno worries 🤣🤣🤣 that clown dirtying up the name cuz
Is your sons bike a 250x? What Hitlis?
No. Straight YZ. HITLIS is a power valve system. Google it. It’s awesome
HITLIS Woods on son's bike
What style hitliss desert?
HITLIS Woods on son's bike
@@ProductivePowerLLC thanks. I couldn’t remember for sure. Either way is sooo good
YZ250
-no Dal Saggio XR Kit on forks
-Why not?
Because it’s my kids bike and he doesn’t have a job 🤣
KYB better?
@@gkling33
IDK, curious to find out
-Dal Soggio XR Kit for KYB only replaces base valve/reservoir section assembly...
Not cartridge or fork itself...
@@gkling33
XR Kit for KYB is around $700
@@jonsainsbury8726 I am going to be trying it out on the Fantic soon
Ktm with carb
Is his bike the YZ250 or 250X? Which would you prefer?
YZ and I like them better than the x
@@highlandcycles Wasn't the X modified for trail bias? Wider ratios, different engine tuning?
@ yes but I don’t like it. Just my opinion
@@highlandcycles ok cool, just wondered. I don't have any personal experience.
Where did you get the throttle on the YZ? Looks sick and I’m assuming it’s better than stock?
T Rex Moto. It’s really nice
YZ250
What gearing is it?
13/50
🤙🤙🤙🤙
Mfs are so mad that the yz250x is being talked about so much. They are absolutely SEETHING😂
Yea it’s kind of hilarious
What are you trying to say?
@@trevorfarlette9996 potential incoming paradigm shift in off-road racing. 🍊fans having trouble processing what is to come if Yamaha drops a 300🤷🏼 🤣
Who is seething??? Maybe people liked the channel the it used to be, you know sort of a mix. Now it's Fantic channel. I have 5 different brands of bikes in garage...I don't how some of you guys get so caught up in one brand.
@@gumpycognac4505I think a lot of us 🍊 riders have been waiting for yam to drop a 300. It will be a few years before they release anything with significant updates. This fantic has been around for a minute. A lot of orange guys are YZ guys
Please don't tell me you're turning into a ktm hater.
Hahaha. Nope. I still love my XC