Everything You've Heard about Privacy is Wrong.
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- Everything you know about privacy & security is wrong, here's why.
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I'm still learning about cyber security, but from my understanding there is no 'Magic Bullet', only risk mitigation. One can only make a system more secure and private, but as the field is rapidly evolving what is secure today may not be tomorrow.
I wish i had realised this a little quicker!
opsec is inherently anti-user friendly.
There are absolute 100% secure magic bullets but these can only be achieved by controlling EVERYTHING yourself,
completely,
a single piece of proprietary hardware = failed opsec.
there exists barely any libre wireless hardware so say gbye to your wifi.
endusers want wifi so channels like techlore that try to be user friendly serve only to spread awareness.
this channel is a gateway to distrotube, who is a gateway to mental outlaw, who is a gateway to luke smith, who is a gateway to ditching (proprietary) tech altogether.
wrong: temple os
There is no perfect solution no, but there are ways to make your life more secure, such as more complex passwords, 2fa, not using 1 device for everything, not using personal info for everything, and keeping up to date with news on stuff like social media leaks and yt channels like this lovely one!
damn, sounds like people should just log off and go outside
I discovered you not too long ago and you have really helped me learn a lot about privacy and security. I love this channel and this video just solidified the reasons why. The information is great, but the heart and soul behind it is what keeps me coming back to a channel. Keep up the great work!
same here!
Same here
I love hearing when privacy and security advocates emphasize threat modeling and basing your actions on what YOU think YOU need, not everyone else nor an all or nothing approach.
It gives them more credibility in my personal and professional view.
I’ll just leave my opinion here. Leaving all of the privacy and security stuff behind I’ve not heard someone talk so much sense in what feels like years. Thank you for making this video and hope it helps a lot of people.
It's funny that I thought I recently heard in the news that Estonia was advising people not to use certain brands of Chinese phones, including a model of OnePlus phone, because they found spychips in them.
But when I looked it up, it was actually Lithuania, who were advising members of their government to abandon some brands of Chinese phones due to pre-installed software that had a disabled feature which is designed to block certain words and phrases, which could be activated remotely at any time. And OnePlus wasn't included in the advisory, and neither were spychips.
Not sure if I got some mental wires crossed, or maybe someone else did. Or a little of both.
On the upside, I learned some interesting things about Estonia in my search. They have apparently been teaching the public about good cyber security since 2008, through programs in schools among other things. But it makes sense. Apparently 99% of their government services are available online.
Still never heard anything about Google having spychips in their phones. I don't think they'd need chips anyway. They have their fingers in most of the software ecosystem for Android. I'm not saying it's out of character for Google though. Other than the fact that they'd probably need to legally disclose the existence of the chips, similarly to what they have to do for their online services. (In the small print, of course. Hidden by a metaphorical coffee stain.)
yeah don't use Chinese phones its all spyware
Gotta say that it really is hard to find privacy focused TH-camrs that can be trusted. As far as I’m concerned, there’s a fine line between channels that fill you in on the fine details vs instil fear.
Channel that comes to mind is Rob Bradman Tech. Dude seems extremely knowledgeable, and I don’t doubt that he is, but hate that he tries to sell his own hardware VPN and phones that he installs custom roms on.
Also makes a lot of those wild and unproven claims pretty frequently so I’m glad you’re more straightforward without pushing fear with “evil Facebook” or whatever it may be.
I also want to add, particularly about this video, the approach on “avoid extremes”, “search for different sources” and “promote a health and thoughtful” discussion on any given subject is of utmost importance. More so in this day and age where many subjects are sort of prohibited to speak about. So, all in all, it should not apply only to technology and privacy. Cheers, mate.
As much as I used to enjoy The Hated One, I feel his channel is fragmenting the community a lot with the extremism and bad takes. Techlore has always had a very level-headed approach to Security and Privacy and the understanding that AVERAGE users do not want to solve 8 CAPTCHAs on Tor just to Google a dog breed their Aunt Sally had.
That would be the quickest way to discourage average users from embracing privacy, which is the opposite of what we need these days.
The more people we can educate about Security and Privacy (even if it's just a little), the higher the chance that they become intrigued, do their own research, come to their own conclusions, and hopefully can then spread the message to other average folks, snowballing the effect. I feel Techlore has always had similar intentions at heart and that's what's so great about this channel. 👍🏻
I mean if your using google on tor your making a mistake
mate.. never use google on tor thats so bad, always use google on tor with vpn ! and dont f up next time.. remember.. vpn on it
@@virtualparis5240 😅😅😅
The Hated One basically saying don't use technology, ever. And then uploads it to youtube
@@everymanishere That's right
I have to say, as much as I understand and sometimes agree with the more extreme sides of the pro-privacy community, frequenting the pro-privacy corners of Odysee and Mastodon becomes very tiring very quickly for this exact reason.
I rolled my eyes when i saw this thumbnail, but im glad i watched it. It was very informational.
This video is why I'll be following you. I've been saying this along with my friend and think that all of us with this mindset should stick together and support each other. Extremes do us no good. We need to discuss, stay neutral, and learn from each other.
I just told myself: this is a guy, from a channel that I recently found out, that I'm really creating empathy, specially after you've showen a fair point in topics that involves sources-checking and stuffs like that.
Really good content !!
I'm studying cyber security in uni and when I saw the thumbnail I first thought "this guy is getting a dislike" but I ended up dropping a sub by the end of the video instead, keep up the good content
We're glad you liked it! Happy to have your subscription.
Hey have you talked or reviewed Session? I think its not just another privacy oriented instant messager, messages get routed w the TOR project n you don’t have to use a phone number
Nathan from SR did an interview with a Session team-member: th-cam.com/video/OQaxtVFn4S4/w-d-xo.html
They were part of our recent messenger comparison: th-cam.com/video/rPp4rQnrG44/w-d-xo.html
They were in our top 5 messengers video: th-cam.com/video/aVwl892hqb4/w-d-xo.html
@JustVictor17 Yeah, some keywords are blocked automatically by TH-cam. It will look like your comment was actually posted, until you refresh the page and it's no longer there.
Just because we *have* been accused of deleting comments, want to make clear this is some weird TH-cam thing. These comments aren't even appearing in our "held for review" section, they just disappear. Nathan can't even comment on our videos and we have no idea why to this day. This is why you can't find Nathan's comments anymore on these SRs
@@techlore Yes, I know about TH-cam (not creators) automatically removing comments containing certain words or phrases.
@@johndumpling1896 or if they just don't like you
I am not kidding but if I would've seen that thumbnail on a video I wouldn't have clicked if it wasn't for you. Because after watching Techlore for quite a long time I can trust this channel to not be clickbait .
Thank you for this, I fell for this a few times.. Not trusting your email service doesn't mean privacy isn't at the user's discretion, *you just can't trust them.*
So grateful for a sensible pov....I am so very sick of everyone having to make every tiny topic into something huge and polarizing.............it would be a much happier world if more people could see beyond their own opinions and at least try to understand the "why" of how someone might feel one way or another. It doesn't mean you have to compromise your integrity or convictions, but it can help everyone with prospective. Thank you!
The fact it was clear you were the way you're claiming to be in this video is why I started watching you (and recommending you to others).
Great video on ‘CLICKBAIT’.
Thanks for the heads up.
I’ll not fall for things like this again.
And thanks for the privacy briefing in the video.
I was really thrown off balance when I saw this video announcement. I take techlore very seriously, and also I had an emotional day. And I have no fuel because I am in England and everybody is fuel hoarding here. And when your car is useless, you just feel exactly how much you depend on it. And I don't know when I will be able to drive somewhere, because the closest three fuel stations are also out of fuel and I cannot reach any further. So great.
I see you as one of the most trustworthy of the several privacy/security TH-camrs I follow. The others are pretty good too, but you seem to explain things more thoroughly.
Nice clickbait video though
What made me interested in privacy was "Hey, if I'm blocking invasive ads, then why I'm letting Google take my data for ads that I don't see?". The only thing I don't block is things like TH-cam algorithms, because it's the only one that actually works from my perspective.
Thank you, I truly appreciate and respect your neutral approach. I am so tired of the endless arguing about any topic. Thank you.
I really like your attitude to this subject. I'm one of those people who doesn't succumb to baseless misinformation. By using my existing technical skills and by investigating multiple sources I try to ensure that my understanding is valid and informed.
I recently found your channel and I am hooked. Thank you for bringing awareness!
"Pretty Good Privacy" PGP is the best you can hope for in life. As the Software is named. Protection from let us say "low level actors" and hooligans.
@@fedup6127 Have you heard of information-theoretic security?
@@fedup6127 Particularly... the "mobile phone," varietal. ;-)
Holy sh**t!!!. This just freaked me out!! Not just the content, which was on point but the fact after doing all my youtube-ing, this has got to be the realistic youtuber I've heard in a long time. Very refreshing and made my Sunday. 👍 👍 and subscribed. Thank you
man, I do recall Protonmail saying they don't log. The problem today is people say things tongue-in-cheek, and rarely mean anything they say. So no logging unless we are forced to reveal the logs we never had. But since that's all hidden in the small print, don't worry about that. I'm skeptical so I never went for that. Same with VPNs who claim they don't log. Privacy stops with you. Start your own services. I agree with most of your points. It'd be nice.. we'll get there eventually.
The thumbnail was so over the top, I almost didn’t watch. But I love your videos and the work you do so here I am. Thanks!
Tank You for taking the time to put everything in perspective. :-)
Stumbled this channel at random… watched a few videos in a row. What a great content. Subscribed.
I’m just learning how to implement some of these things into my life and your video is on point. There is so much information out there and it’s really hard to know who to trust. I personally just want the information and I’ll decide if it’s right for me. I appreciate your approach.
Amen!! Thanks for bringing this up! Been bothering me for a long time.
I really liked this video, because it itself proved to me the point of the video. I clicked this thinking this is a very clickbait-y title, and I was going into it expecting a pretty bad take on privacy. I found instead a quite nuanced take on the matter. I still don't particularly like clickbait, but I think it can be used in clever ways and I wanted to give props to Techlore here - because this was a good example of that!
Tor is only as safe as how you use it. This should be common sense. Proton is a company and is beholden to court orders. Trusting companies is always risky. But Signal? Im always going to be against it until they dont require a phone number. The average user isn't going to mess around with burner numbers and Voip numbers.
Yes! Remove the numbers!
@@TatsuHolly Consider Session. It's a fork of Signal, without phone numbers, zero trust.
Protonmail 'logs' user data for some time (two weeks, or so they claim?) and is located... in Switzerland. If you are naive enough to "trust' that, then you don't know how the "intel inside" world (let alone the monetary, etc.) works. As they say: "Follow the money..." (to the BIS, or IH$ Templar Intel.) and get your OWN VPN router and/ or say a Netgear M-1 Router and "pay cash" for SIM card(s) if you want to be more 'private.' That 'hacker' wasn't very savvy. (Probably 'groomed' and then hung- out to dry by Interpol, or US, etc. (Free)masonic, intel?)
The AI (drones...) 'blocked' my second post? Oye Vedic... Amun Ra? Cabal+ Al + lalah?? Some interesting posts about bees, vs. flies: The 'goat,' on Twit: "Bee's don't waste their time explaining to flies that honey, is better than shit..." And from the "Dis + $i plus dent" film: And what about "the bees," to paraphrase: "They love their nation... and will defend it... with HONESTY, and TRUTH..." Also: "He knew that once you're afraid to talk about your opinion... to criticize anyone... then there IS NO freedom, of speech!" And: "Say your WORD... and walk away..." Astute, advice! Great movie, very revealing... and timely. And I'll add, to that: Trust noone online... and as they say: "Keep your powder, dry." (At least here, in the US...)
@@williamtiffee3799 Great recommendations
I’m an exec at a tech company. Here’s my privacy tips. Have at least 2 bank accounts at different banks. 1 use for everything online. 2nd for physical purchases & mortgage or important big payments. Ideally that would be your 3rd account. Have a separate sim/phone for all your social media & internet accounts. Private phone for work & family/close friends, no free/social apps allowed on this phone. Emails only via computer. Every device must have a VPN service. No Alexa, no Siri. Ever. No cloud, only backup to private server. Smart home must be backed to private server not company, possibility to override to physical access. Share private matters in person, phones away, airplane mode on. Don’t sleep with phone near your pillow, the signals are strong enough to cause health risks.
Well said. Keep up the great work you do!
Excellent video. I really like your approach to security and privacy. Keep up the great work!
Why do I get the feelng at least some of this was directed towards Braxman.
I don't get that feeling. Rob relays great info and can be very passionate about it, but never sensationalist as far as I can tell. And regarding the Proton situation, I'm sure I remember him explaining the situation thoroughly. He still recommends Proton, but even more he recommends that you use it wisely, and, of course, not to do anything illegal.
I slightly got that feeling, too.
Braxman is pretty extreme. He's often not really wrong but you certainly get the feeling that the world is ending every time you watch one of his videos.
It doesn't exactly help that he got sponsored by Startpage and won't talk about it objectively anymore and that he heavily advertises his own services with his fear mongering and because of that refuses to compare competing products in a fair and helpful way.
All of his videos feel a bit like this: "Everything s(/z)ucks, we are being surveilled 24/7, there is little you can do except for browser isolation, device isolation, not using any social media accounts and using my services"
You have to take his videos with a big grain of salt. They can be rather interesting but the way he frames everything can be quite counterproductive.
@@BurgerKingHarkinian Yeah, and that's all I meant -- that the onscreen text seemed to be aimed at him. He does discuss a lot of good topics and I think he knows his stuff but everything is apocalypse-level to him. I'm not sure a normie could possibly exist in the rule set Braxman proposes. Hell, I couldn't and I broadly know the issues.
Oh, and have you heard that he runs a VPN and sells de-Googled phones? :-)
@@TheRedneckPreppy Yup to almost everything you said. Funnily enough, I don't think he ever said anything in the click bait thumbnail.
He doesn't trash talk tor, I think. (He would be sabotaging his own business as well, if he did)
He openly said that he uses Signal for family.
Well.. Regarding Proton.... I was writing a paragraph in his defense here as well but the more I thought about it, I had to admit, that he did in fact actually thrash them unfairly at points.
Not everything he said was false, far from it but some points were overly negative towards Proton that apply to any messenger or email provider.
But no, I NEVER heard that he sells de-Googled phones or has his own VPN! :O 🤯
I feel for the clickbait and was confused lol
I think I speak for the whole community saying that your content is good enough that you don't need to do the click baitiy thumbnails
You do an awesome job!!!!! Thanks So Much!!!!! I am learning ALOT.
You said you hate google, apple and facebook--you are speaking my language yet remaining objective. Liked, subbed, etc., ty!!
Thanks so much for the tip!
Question:
What if a person makes a privacy app for files pictures documents but person has the app to them self an set up the privacy for it????
Just a thought
This can be applied to mainstream news media as well…. Not just tech….
You guys are doing an excellent job....don't change a thing!
You're talking about tech and privacy but what you're saying applies to everything at the moment
Should we use ad blockers on our web browsers? Are they good for our privacy.
I use uBlock Origin (on Firefox) and I don't care about its effect on privacy. I've never heard that it has any bad effects on privacy. I simply don't want to see adverts on TH-cam. Ever. I freely donate to videomakers I care about. Just saying.
Professional production! Keep up the professionalism!
Excellent common sense approach for your videos.
I would love to see a comparison video on Calyx OS on a Pixel and iOS 14 on an iPhone regarding privacy and security.
I am a subscriber to Rob Braxman, and he had me that worried about Apples privacy, i bought a Google Pixel and installed Calyx OS with Micro g enabled. He is great, but very extreme.
Given there are still not a lot of videos on Calyx, i would love to see Techlore do this video comparison, please.
Calyx is wayyy better for privacy than Apple, but if you’re still going and installing super invasive apps on calyx then it can be worse. Generally it’s the third party Apple apps that do most of the tracking
Off topic, but I think this also the case when discussing spirituality and religion. I can get called an evil sinner only so many times before I'm like 'okay.'
2:20
Ok, ok, so if what they did was shitty, then what would you call protonmails privacy policy change? They were lying about "not keeping ip logs BY DEFAULT", other than that, there is a lot more shady stuff about proton like them not having a proper onion site (they redirect you back to clearnet after logging in) or them not having a private payment option (like monero, or mailing cash) for their premium services. It might not be a honeypot, but it sure is good for catching criminals. I really don't appreciate the bias you have on protonmail (just to be clear, despite all this, I still do use proton, since there aren't many better options, but I think you are presenting it like protonmail is a perfect email solution, even tho email pretty much can't really be anonymous and private (at least not on clearnet))
I don't think he is saying like that. I think he is just saying about the recent event lol
My feedback is very positive. The privacy community needs more people like you. Just to give an example, let's face it: many users need Windows or just don't want to change to Linux. The typical paranoid privacy pure-FOSS advocate will just shum this user and say his privacy is hopeless until he changes his mind, and will shum the user too if he chooses Ubuntu or Mint (and also for not saying GNU/Linux)
A pragmatic privacy (and security overall) advocate, actually trying to help, knows there are different risk profiles, privacy and security are neither perfect nor useless, and that there's much one can do to mitigate risks in Windows, for free, with minimal hassle.
Please keep doing these informative videos, people must realize that safeguarding their data and personal information is not rocket science.
The interesting thing is, with Swiss Law they can log your email, but not VPN traffic.
i really enjoy that Techlore gives his community the facts and is neutral in his approach. I don’t ever feel forced to do something after his videos because Techlore gives the viewers the option of making that decision.
Thank you Techlore for all you do
Sir, you have just earned my subscription. This was a suprisingly informative and well argued video.
Google may be known for security, but most definitely not privacy.
At this point it's best to call anybody ignorant about privacy an exhibitionist, which is slightly correct and will definitely get attention to open a conversation.
Summer 2022 pick-up line: "You're exposed! Are you an exhibitionist?"
Consider the divide and conquer giving dating apps more ways to discern/discriminate, ever more including questionable kinks and fetishes.
You are so freaking good, love you guys!
I’m interested in the reasons people clicked on this video. Would anyone like to share?
I would probably have watched this regardless of the title and thumbnail. There is extra curiosity when relatively trusted sources resort to clickbait, but that alone doesn’t dictate my response. The risk level of the platform it’s on is also a factor, and so is the perceived likelihood of the source using clickbait for a somewhat legitimate purpose. I would guess that a lot of Techlore subscribers feel similarly, and would not necessarily respond to clickbait from the majority of other sources.
How do you find that tickle only “legitbait”? They literally logged and shared an ip address of a user. What I know is that what o thought I knew about proton is now wrong.
This is going to be one of the few times that I can accept getting clickbaited.
I try to stick to open source software. It gets audited frequently and is patched quickly when issues are found.
Agree with your hate list. Would add Microsoft as well
2:27 what's a good way to compile news together?
I know somewhat how to have multiple search engines, but not news.
5:00 what if they just do banking on a VM, on their regular device... it's all in the browser right?
And not like someone can find your info stored by the banking by using your ip.
No saving logs is supposed to mean no saving logs. Nobody in Gov can access them if there are no logs stored.
Well argued summary. Hope polarizers persisted to persuasion!
TL:DR I Like this channel, yet im degoogling my self.
My gate keeping approach is mine, still I like to hear other opinions.
Im feed up with YT and google ecosystem and its policy; Im aware that to be completely save and private I should basically pull the plug, go full nomad (not possible)
Im on a road to degogle my self totally. It is a long process to be self hosted with everything beside domain.
Yet i will not fight with people who would not do this, its stupid and childish to do so.
so I agree that google facebook and apple are all companies that you should not trust with youra data but i am curious as to what youre opion is on the epic browser, linkensphere browser and anti detect browser?
Like u a lot, logic dances in ur words! Hard to see someone this rational and cool nowadays.
Give credit where it's due regardless of your personal bias. I have also seen similar reactions in social gathering when I demonstrate that etc product/company is good at xyz but i personally hate it xd.
Good and balanced. Thank you.
Isn't TH-cam now owned by Google?
so is lineage safe in your Op? i think it is but i could be wrong
Can you make a video on iCloud private relay and if it’s as good as advertised?
So should I delete Proton or not? I just installed it yesterday, I might have made a mistake?
The "activist" skipped school. Just saying...
Privacy is needs.
Sadly, Privacy is an useful tools for a criminals.
Yeah so are hands, but that doesn't mean we should surrender our hands.
It does make me curious though, is signal all right to use?
Well put. I totally agree. Thank you. Subscribed.
would you still recommend protonmail after this escene?
Yep. Every word.
I unfollow over dramatized sources. I notice on youtube they are allowed but not non paradigm truths. By the way Good Job!
Also the reason the fear mongering if promoted is a Churchill stated" the virginity of truths are hidden in the skirts of lies" or something to that end.
Good video I like your aprotch. Would be cool to see you develop the idea of threat models. Maybe we could create some sort of level system, for example: basic, protection against crime. Medium: get out of spying corporations and information trading. Advanced: avoid government and intelligence agencies.
This way it wold be easyer to see what I need to do to reach the level of privacy I feel comfortable with.
Appreciate the info.
The only way to have complete privacy, is to live off grid. I mean totally. No connection to outside world totally. 😅😅😅
I understand that privacy should be a given human right, but if people are really that bothered by a service helping authorities catch a criminal, then I think some people's priorities need to be checked lol.
I understand skepticism when those actions violate the policy or claims that the company uses to sell their product, but there seem to be a small (likely just vocal) group of people in this community that get really upset that these companies won't protect them if they do something illegal.
The problem is most data has nothing to do with law. They sell your data around to make YOU the product. There have also been cases of people wrongfully imprisoned, fired from their job, or had their face/likeness used for advertising. Hackers, data breaches, and many other scammers online that purposefully try to get hold of your information to fuck you over. The idea that you’re not doing anything wrong, so it doesn’t matter, is flawed, because your data is being collected for uses outside of just law itself. Even regarding law, there have been states that have banned abortions recently. Places in the world that are anti-LGBT. Places like China that are super oppressive to their online users. Law changes, and law is not always enforced or enforced correctly.
Privacy should be a human right. The faith in government to protect your rights or you as a person is laughable. History has shown us many countries/governments that have gone against basic human rights. That could happen to any country.
Amazing speaker! Thanks!
no matter what the article title is, the fact remains is that proton is compromised
Suggestions as replacement for Proton Email Or Proton Drive ?
i like your approach..i was wondering if you can make a video on the free vpn that comes with calyxos..? thanks
I'm glad I was clickbaited into this video!
Let's take away that anyone's main threat-model comes primarily from the US Government, its legion of military contractors like Google/Alphabet, Israel and the UAE and any nation state in the US eye networks. Governments cracking down on political dissent makes government authority unresponsive to valid domestic differences of political opinion. If Proton Mail or any other company allows itself to be leaned on by a government itself being leaned on by those degenerates in team US Gov then screw them. The rights of the individual, in their respective nations, means nothing to them. Democracy means nothing to the US Government, and an informed public means nothing. Google, Amazon, Facebook, etc. are best thought of as extensions of the NSA.
All people are not supposed to be doing all the things unless we're training all the people to do all the things some people will gravitate towards their thing if left unsupervised which is the problem
Nice Korean subtitles xD
And here I thought he was talking about that virtual currency & compromised exit node thing
Hey Techlore, do you have a video about Winston Privacy?
i was legitimately clickbaited into this video
I like your balanced philosophic approach