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Only thing I would change is Apple from A to S tier and Richmond from B to either A or S tier. In general, I love both character but that moment where Apple tried to find Shu’s coin as long as it can get him to help and Richmond’s “secret help” to ensure that Shu can join the Dunan army is top tier character move
Millie and Simone are S tier for me, they're my favorites. Millie is the reason why i love boomerangs in video games so much, but it just stinks that most games just go with the boring sword and bow.. I wish more games had more creative weapons like boomerangs.
I do like the boomerang, she's a good character, she's just lacking something that draws me in. I do agree, I wish more games would be as creative with character weapons as much as Suikoden is
Kasumi is an archer unit. Valeria's unit is the cavalry unit. Valeri'a unit is vastly superior. People liked Pesmerga even in Suikoden 1. I just never understood the appeal of his character. He may be good in combat, but that's not enough for me to like a character.
@@Suleiman2000 yeah I know, but Valeria IS ALREADY a cavalry unit. You can have 9 total cavalry units if you pick Kasumi, you get 10 if you pick Valeria. Valeria is cavalry by default, yes, you can make ANY unit cavalry, but you cannot make EVERY unit cavalry, is this making sense?
It took about 1 hour and 20 minutes to record, had to cut out 2 minutes while I went to get a drink. The Suikoden 1 ranking video took just over an hour.
@@eliotwildermann Luckily I had just recently replayed 1 and 2 to grab footage for videos, so they were still fresh in my mind and I didn't need to script anything, more or less winged them
Millie is one of my favourites from her peak design alone. I don’t care if her stats are mediocre, I just enjoy having her in the party and her sprite carrying around Bonaparte. I also love Lorelai. Really with Millie and Lorelai, I’m Marge Simpson with the potato. “I just think they’re neat!”
Chuchara boggles my mind. It could have make sense if Rulodia hadn't been a Star of Destiny so long as Chuchara was, but Chuchara isn't a Star of Destiny either. In addition to that, Chuchara doesn't have a Unite Attack with their parents either. On the plus side, Richmond's dialogue is funny for Chuchara, and I understand they got exposure in one of the Suikogaiden's, but I can't think of anything good to say. I have a gut feeling this will still the same in the Remaster
It's been so long I don't even remember Richmond's dialogue with Chuchara. Abizboah and Rulodia had a cool unite attack. I always found it odd that Chuchara never had one with them, but they do have a fun unite attack with Viki. Unfortunately, I agree. I think it'll remain unchanged in the remaster. It's a shame because they would've made nice alternatives to Sigfried and Feather without punishing the player for recruiting them by locking the player out of getting all 108 SoD.
Dang... I almost subscribed. Until you said Freed was garbage... That broke my heart. He's my absolute favorite character. He was in my party when I cleared the game. Hero, Nanami, Freed, Shin, Eilie, and Killey
Your explanation for why you like Lorelai so much is pretty much the same reason why people love Killey, so I get it. I'd personally rate Killey an A mostly because of his awesome design and being a good character. His personality is quite lacking though and they still didn't really give him one in Suikoden 5. D tier Killey and Clive are gonna be this videos controversies though, lol. I also completely forgot Maximillian was a character... Rating him over Kiba, Sierra, Khan, Rina, Ellie and Ridley is also uhh, not what I'd do. :P
Who I put higher: Ridley, Shin, Zamza, Kahn, Kiba and Killey. Pilika spent quite some time with Jowy. Did they not explain it had been weeks to months? It is 3 am, so maybe I am too tired, but did you miss Rowd?
For me, taki will be in A tier, the days without a walkthrough site, she's our guide she helps a lot along with the detective character, those are the days, very nostalgic 😊😊 With a guide of walk through site yeah she is not helpful though
Valeria being in the S-tier is always correct. Speaking of S-tier characters, I hope you got the giant Mukumuku plushie. Mine is on the windowsill behind me. :)
I didn't even realise Elza was missing while I was recording it. It was a premade list on the site that I used. I'd put Elza in the B tier. I quite like her. She's far more interesting than CLive.
These were premade lists on tiermaker. I think a few characters are missing on the lists. I didn't even notice the Star Dragon Sword or Elza missing while I was recording them I'd put him in the A tier. He's got a lot of funny dialogue and banter with Viktor. Elza I'd probably put in the B tier.
I'll add it to the list. I can't promise that I will make one about them though, but I will look into it and see if there's enough information to make an interesting discussion about them.
@@CulganValya ya but did you do know you can gain access to it before even meeting tai ho and yum ku the first time allowing early gear builds and weapon levels?
Millie é a minha personagem preferida! Na época em que jogava no Playstation eu farmava pedras mágicas naquele minigame no castelo de subir as cordas e chegar no topo da montanha, pra aumentar o poder mágico dela, lembro que consegui deixar ela com magia superior ao Luc! Gosto do design da personagem e o que dizer de seu companheiro Bonaparte, uma criatura única e fofinha, o único pesar é perder um slot de magia para ter habilidade em conjunto a ele! Apesar da afinidade com Blue Gate nunca utilizei essa magia prefiro investir em Cyclone e Flowing! 🖤
Interestingly enough, I can't stand Shu, like at all. Mathiu would take the recommendations of those around him and build a strategy to make it work. Lepant suggested going to the Warriors Village, Humphrey recommended the Dragon Knights, Flik and the Lorimar region. Mathiu accepted the recommendations of those around him. Shu never let anyone provide any suggestions or alternative strategies. I remember when Klaus tried to provide a strategy and Shu was all "nah, I got this". Then there was the whole fake rift where Ridley and the kolbold army fled in the middle of battle. That rouse was stupid, I could have one that fight without the subterfuge, and how many soldiers died for that gamble? Yeah, not a fan of Shu, that's my hot take. I do agree about Killey, I've never liked him, in either 2 or 5, I thought he was a jerk in both. Curious to see your rankings in the other games of the series.
I get that. Shu has a strong air of arrogance about him. He's good and he knows how good he is. He so good, he knows he doesn't need others advice. When he lets Apple do her thing at Muse, he knew she'd fail. Mathiu was more open to ideas and suggestions, although he would only commit to reconnaissance missions or sending small forces.
Why is everyone ignoring Kasumi being a decent mage and also a decent physical damage dealer for free!? Come on T_T she's so versatile she needs to be higher! aha
@@Kris95x she’s not a good mage. She doesn’t get a free rune slot til lv.50, has no good affinity, and subpar magic stat. She is at best below average.
@@dustinhaas8538The magic stat means close to nothing in this game as the damage isn't based on the magic stats rather on the runes usage. She unlocks the 4th rune attack towards the late game AND she has a free 2x unique rune she can rely on every turn. Her only downside is that she's squishy, but she is versatile, you can do everything with her.
@ yeah her unique rune is great for physical damage, she’s a fine physical character. Magic is largely negligible when it comes to damage, but she lags behind nearly anyone else in mp slots, and that doesn’t change the fact that she has no good affinity(which DOES have a decent effect on damage) and only one free rune slot after lv.50. And her unique rune is cool, and I’m all for personality in characters, but arguably the double-beat outclasses her unique in every way. Look, she’s a fine character, but in all reality a poor mage.
@@dustinhaas8538 That's what I mean tho! If you give her a water or wind rune for aoe damage and healing she's not bad at all. I don't mean to say she's one of the strongest, but her versatility definitely makes her viable, especially with a cast of stars that does half the thing she can do. That's why I think she should be higher, overall.
@@kaiserantoni3118 You must have missed the part where I said it's a personal favourite ranking. I was ranking the character on how much I like them, not how strong they are in combat.
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Only thing I would change is Apple from A to S tier and Richmond from B to either A or S tier. In general, I love both character but that moment where Apple tried to find Shu’s coin as long as it can get him to help and Richmond’s “secret help” to ensure that Shu can join the Dunan army is top tier character move
Those are fair changes. I can definitely see why people would rank them both higher than I did. They both have some great moments.
Richmond not being S tier is breaking my heart
he's my favorite
his background music is my favorite
Millie and Simone are S tier for me, they're my favorites. Millie is the reason why i love boomerangs in video games so much, but it just stinks that most games just go with the boring sword and bow.. I wish more games had more creative weapons like boomerangs.
I do like the boomerang, she's a good character, she's just lacking something that draws me in. I do agree, I wish more games would be as creative with character weapons as much as Suikoden is
okay. and why Simone?
13:20 Kasumi is also a Cavalry unit Btw.
14:55 Pesmerga is the Best Cavalry unit in S2 and OP in combat that's why ppl like him .
Kasumi is an archer unit. Valeria's unit is the cavalry unit. Valeri'a unit is vastly superior.
People liked Pesmerga even in Suikoden 1. I just never understood the appeal of his character. He may be good in combat, but that's not enough for me to like a character.
she can if you put Camus, Miklotov, and/or Pesmerga in her unit
@@Suleiman2000well, by that logic everyone is a cavalry unit.
@@dustinhaas8538 everyone can be, also Cavalry is an ability not a unit
@@Suleiman2000 yeah I know, but Valeria IS ALREADY a cavalry unit.
You can have 9 total cavalry units if you pick Kasumi, you get 10 if you pick Valeria.
Valeria is cavalry by default, yes, you can make ANY unit cavalry, but you cannot make EVERY unit cavalry, is this making sense?
A tier list with this many characters is crazy i cant imagine how long this took 😅
It took about 1 hour and 20 minutes to record, had to cut out 2 minutes while I went to get a drink.
The Suikoden 1 ranking video took just over an hour.
@CulganValya I figured planning and maybe a script if u did one would've taken longer 😅
@@eliotwildermann Luckily I had just recently replayed 1 and 2 to grab footage for videos, so they were still fresh in my mind and I didn't need to script anything, more or less winged them
Millie is one of my favourites from her peak design alone. I don’t care if her stats are mediocre, I just enjoy having her in the party and her sprite carrying around Bonaparte. I also love Lorelai. Really with Millie and Lorelai, I’m Marge Simpson with the potato.
“I just think they’re neat!”
Chuchara boggles my mind. It could have make sense if Rulodia hadn't been a Star of Destiny so long as Chuchara was, but Chuchara isn't a Star of Destiny either. In addition to that, Chuchara doesn't have a Unite Attack with their parents either. On the plus side, Richmond's dialogue is funny for Chuchara, and I understand they got exposure in one of the Suikogaiden's, but I can't think of anything good to say. I have a gut feeling this will still the same in the Remaster
It's been so long I don't even remember Richmond's dialogue with Chuchara. Abizboah and Rulodia had a cool unite attack. I always found it odd that Chuchara never had one with them, but they do have a fun unite attack with Viki.
Unfortunately, I agree. I think it'll remain unchanged in the remaster. It's a shame because they would've made nice alternatives to Sigfried and Feather without punishing the player for recruiting them by locking the player out of getting all 108 SoD.
Dang... I almost subscribed. Until you said Freed was garbage... That broke my heart. He's my absolute favorite character. He was in my party when I cleared the game. Hero, Nanami, Freed, Shin, Eilie, and Killey
i would've liked to say that Shu is like Kongming of Suikoden
but he's even much much much more better
You broke my heart not rating sierra S tier
Pretty sure I broke a lot of hearts with some of these character rankings. But Sierra is up there, she's in the A tier!
My girl Sierra shld be in S tier
Your explanation for why you like Lorelai so much is pretty much the same reason why people love Killey, so I get it.
I'd personally rate Killey an A mostly because of his awesome design and being a good character. His personality is quite lacking though and they still didn't really give him one in Suikoden 5.
D tier Killey and Clive are gonna be this videos controversies though, lol. I also completely forgot Maximillian was a character... Rating him over Kiba, Sierra, Khan, Rina, Ellie and Ridley is also uhh, not what I'd do. :P
I love all the characters who pursue the mystery of the Sindar up until the fifth game.
I'll never not rate Clive and Killey low xD Maximillian is awesome. Crazy old man yells at cloud, he's a great character. I've always loved him.
You know what? I actually like and agree your rankings.
I'm surprised. I didn't expect anyone to agree with the list as there's quite a few unusual choices in there.
Rina is definitely an S-Tier character.
tai ho being that low is criminal
Luke was always Luck to me. Gotta love JRPG character names 😂
His Japanese name is Rukku, which in English would translate to Luke.
Who I put higher: Ridley, Shin, Zamza, Kahn, Kiba and Killey.
Pilika spent quite some time with Jowy. Did they not explain it had been weeks to months?
It is 3 am, so maybe I am too tired, but did you miss Rowd?
If Sierra isnt S tier we riot!
Almost, but not quite. A tier for Sierra. Start your riot!
Wheres Tir?
S tier at 3:36
For me, taki will be in A tier, the days without a walkthrough site, she's our guide she helps a lot along with the detective character, those are the days, very nostalgic 😊😊
With a guide of walk through site yeah she is not helpful though
Shu is my favorite character of all time
Shu is an awesome character
Valeria being in the S-tier is always correct. Speaking of S-tier characters, I hope you got the giant Mukumuku plushie. Mine is on the windowsill behind me. :)
Video took too long to reach the point when Elza appears
I didn't even realise Elza was missing while I was recording it. It was a premade list on the site that I used.
I'd put Elza in the B tier. I quite like her. She's far more interesting than CLive.
No Star Dragon Sword in either ranking? Where would you put him… he’s technically a character, lol
These were premade lists on tiermaker. I think a few characters are missing on the lists. I didn't even notice the Star Dragon Sword or Elza missing while I was recording them
I'd put him in the A tier. He's got a lot of funny dialogue and banter with Viktor. Elza I'd probably put in the B tier.
Would you consider making a video on Leknaat and Luc? I've not played Suikoden 1 so I'm very curious about how they fit into the world of Suikoden.
I'll add it to the list. I can't promise that I will make one about them though, but I will look into it and see if there's enough information to make an interesting discussion about them.
@@CulganValya No pressure. I'm grateful enough that you responded.
Lucille favorite of all time
hans should be A for the potch glitch lol
I've actually only made use of his potch glitch a few times. I can count on one hand the number of times I done it.
@@CulganValya ya but did you do know you can gain access to it before even meeting tai ho and yum ku the first time allowing early gear builds and weapon levels?
Was excited for this one after watching the last one! Haven't watched it through yet but I hope you give your voice a rest, that's a lot of talking!
A few hours after this video I recorded a video about the TGS presentation. Just need to edit it and it'll be up later today. My throat hurts 😀
It's very easy to explain your love for Lorelay, she's your waifu 😂
I will never have a waifu! But I'll allow her to consider me her husbando 😀
Love suikoden My daughters name is Odessa. Subscribed.
Millie é a minha personagem preferida! Na época em que jogava no Playstation eu farmava pedras mágicas naquele minigame no castelo de subir as cordas e chegar no topo da montanha, pra aumentar o poder mágico dela, lembro que consegui deixar ela com magia superior ao Luc! Gosto do design da personagem e o que dizer de seu companheiro Bonaparte, uma criatura única e fofinha, o único pesar é perder um slot de magia para ter habilidade em conjunto a ele! Apesar da afinidade com Blue Gate nunca utilizei essa magia prefiro investir em Cyclone e Flowing! 🖤
Interestingly enough, I can't stand Shu, like at all. Mathiu would take the recommendations of those around him and build a strategy to make it work. Lepant suggested going to the Warriors Village, Humphrey recommended the Dragon Knights, Flik and the Lorimar region. Mathiu accepted the recommendations of those around him. Shu never let anyone provide any suggestions or alternative strategies. I remember when Klaus tried to provide a strategy and Shu was all "nah, I got this". Then there was the whole fake rift where Ridley and the kolbold army fled in the middle of battle. That rouse was stupid, I could have one that fight without the subterfuge, and how many soldiers died for that gamble? Yeah, not a fan of Shu, that's my hot take.
I do agree about Killey, I've never liked him, in either 2 or 5, I thought he was a jerk in both. Curious to see your rankings in the other games of the series.
I get that. Shu has a strong air of arrogance about him. He's good and he knows how good he is. He so good, he knows he doesn't need others advice. When he lets Apple do her thing at Muse, he knew she'd fail. Mathiu was more open to ideas and suggestions, although he would only commit to reconnaissance missions or sending small forces.
Why is everyone ignoring Kasumi being a decent mage and also a decent physical damage dealer for free!? Come on T_T she's so versatile she needs to be higher! aha
@@Kris95x she’s not a good mage.
She doesn’t get a free rune slot til lv.50, has no good affinity, and subpar magic stat. She is at best below average.
@@dustinhaas8538The magic stat means close to nothing in this game as the damage isn't based on the magic stats rather on the runes usage. She unlocks the 4th rune attack towards the late game AND she has a free 2x unique rune she can rely on every turn. Her only downside is that she's squishy, but she is versatile, you can do everything with her.
@ yeah her unique rune is great for physical damage, she’s a fine physical character. Magic is largely negligible when it comes to damage, but she lags behind nearly anyone else in mp slots, and that doesn’t change the fact that she has no good affinity(which DOES have a decent effect on damage) and only one free rune slot after lv.50.
And her unique rune is cool, and I’m all for personality in characters, but arguably the double-beat outclasses her unique in every way.
Look, she’s a fine character, but in all reality a poor mage.
@@dustinhaas8538 That's what I mean tho! If you give her a water or wind rune for aoe damage and healing she's not bad at all. I don't mean to say she's one of the strongest, but her versatility definitely makes her viable, especially with a cast of stars that does half the thing she can do. That's why I think she should be higher, overall.
My fave is Oulan. Give her the berserk rune and she can use her special non stop
Oulan is a badass for sure!
I love suikoden 2 but still prefer the roster in 1
That's not something I hear very often. Who are your favourites?
Gorudo comment made my day lol
clive tier s for me, the stat is amazing for physical attack, he have high spd, tech and luck its usefull for multiple attack and critical hit
He's an incredible combat character for sure. His design and story just never clicked with me.
I will give you like just because you put my fav char Viki on S
Heat
Waiting for Bob (Terrible character that I wanted to like)
Bob is awesome. I really like him. I put him in the A tier.
@@CulganValyashould be Tier B, for Bob. I say closer to C
The pesmerga slander I will not stand for
There's gonna be a lot of Pesmerga slander on this channel.
Richmond got robbed
A lot of characters got robbed 😀Where would you rank Richmond?
Noob lists.. Killey and sheena SS tiers the best to use with fury rune, double strike and double beat rune..
@@kaiserantoni3118 You must have missed the part where I said it's a personal favourite ranking. I was ranking the character on how much I like them, not how strong they are in combat.
Corny, overpowered, slop, real casual setup.