METAL GEAR SOLID BIG BOSS VS SOLID SNAKE | ANALYSIS

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  • Dive deep into the heart of the Metal Gear Solid saga with our comprehensive analysis of the epic rivalry between Big Boss and Solid Snake. Join us as we dissect the intricate layers of their characters, unravel the complex narratives, and explore the psychological and thematic elements that define their legendary conflict.
    In this video, we delve into the contrasting ideologies, motivations, and personal struggles that shape Big Boss and Solid Snake, shedding light on the profound impact they've had on the gaming landscape. From the early days of Outer Heaven to the shadowy corridors of Shadow Moses, every step of their journey is examined to uncover the underlying themes that make their story so compelling.
    Whether you're a long-time fan of the Metal Gear series or a newcomer intrigued by the allure of these iconic characters, our analysis offers fresh insights and a nostalgic trip down memory lane. Subscribe now for a thought-provoking exploration of one of gaming's greatest rivalries and an appreciation of the storytelling brilliance that has made Metal Gear Solid a timeless classic."
    0:00 INTRO
    2:32 BIG BOSS CQC SKILLS
    08:18 SOLID SNAKE CQC SKILLS
    16:57 INFILTRATION MISSIONS BIG BOSS
    34:47 INFILTRATION MISSIONS SOLID SNAKE
    58:14 ENDURANCE AND WILLPOWER BIG BOSS
    01:10:54 ENDURANCE AND WILLPOWER SOLID SNAKE
    01:15:04 COMBAT SKILLS AND BOSSES BIG BOSS
    01:41:23 COMBAT SKILLS AND BOSSES SOLID SNAKE
    02:12:10 CONCLUSION
    #metalgearsolid #gaming #solidsnake #bigboss
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ความคิดเห็น • 409

  • @onehitkill8895
    @onehitkill8895 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +99

    All the people claiming that Big Boss would dominate Solid Snake or that Solid Snake would dominate Big Boss, need to replay the games and re-watch this video. Neither one would stomp/clap/dominate the other. It would be a very close battle regardless of who wins.

    • @abalibrahim
      @abalibrahim 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      The legendary Solid Snake already defeated Pig Boss 3 times, Solid Snake is the Ultimate Soldier and the hero of this franchise, without him there will be no Metal Gear "SOLID".

    • @darksuper3257
      @darksuper3257 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      @@abalibrahim solid only beat big boss once while he was almost in prime and big boss was an old man who wasn't even powered by nanomachines, in mgs4 on par big boss disarmed him and outsmarted him while every cell in his body was dying for FOXDIE, big boss is too smart and has too superior technique to lose against solid, if they had clashed in the respective primes there would have been no battle

    • @GeneFOX70
      @GeneFOX70 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@darksuper3257Big Boss is stated to be at his strongest in MG2, and Snake is stated to be the strongest soldier in history.

    • @darksuper3257
      @darksuper3257 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@GeneFOX70 in mg2 he is 64 years old and big boss is recognized as the greatest soldier ever

    • @darksuper3257
      @darksuper3257 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@GeneFOX70 but also when do they say that mg2 is its prime? in fact they tell snake to be careful because he is still very strong but they never say that it is his prime, it is also logical that it is not

  • @aeneas237
    @aeneas237 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +67

    In grade school I got in trouble on career day when I gave a report on why I wanted to be a cyborg ninja

  • @fabioenchillada2278
    @fabioenchillada2278 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    Even if Big Boss was stronger in every way, Solid Snake is known for turning the odds in his favor.

    • @mycardboardbox
      @mycardboardbox  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      very true, finally a logical comment

    • @pedrofreitas9574
      @pedrofreitas9574 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      "O homem que faz do impossível, possível."

    • @Clean.Eastwood
      @Clean.Eastwood 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      "The man who makes the impossible possible", indeed

  • @randocalzonian4756
    @randocalzonian4756 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +75

    I can't tell you how many times I've played through Metal Gear Solid 3, but every time I get to the end with Eva's speech about the boss I can't help but tear up. It's been well over 100 times and it still hits hard every time.

    • @ZamboniElite
      @ZamboniElite 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have a real problem with Eva's speech because while it is emotional, it 1000% contradicts what The Boss told Snake in person before he killed her. She told him explicitly she wanted to make the world whole again, by using Russia's position of power and the Philosopher's Legacy to achieve that end. She confessed to Snake her dream was a world made whole, yet after this Eva tells us that The Boss was an American Hero through and through. While it adds to her complexity, it could also just be sloppy writing. Eva's speech is emotional to be sure but its gravitas is undermined by the words that came from The Boss herself. Traditionally this can be criticized as again, sloppiness but perhaps the bombastic "revelation" from Eva is supposed to ring hollow because we know everything she is telling us is a lie. The Boss didn't care about being a patriot or the ideals of America, she wanted to unite the world by any means necessary even at the expense of individual choice. She was going to force the world to unite.

    • @randocalzonian4756
      @randocalzonian4756 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ZamboniElite I don't feel that it's contradictory at all. The Boss told Snake about her dream and goals, but at the end of the day, she was loyal to her country, even to the detriment of her own dream. Which is why Snake then turns from the US. He wasn't going to let loyalty keep him from achieving the Boss's dream, even if his and Zero's interpretations are both flawed.

  • @Zonex_Haven
    @Zonex_Haven 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +71

    I usually don't comment on MGS videos as I have lived and breathed on this franchise since MGS1 on PS1 1998
    I have to say thank you for including PORTABLE OPS as it is considered CANNON in my eyes as well as in the eyes of the people who actually played PORTABLE OPS and understood its importance to the series.
    Not a day goes by that this amazing franchise has made a huge influence in my life.
    KONAMI, Tomokazu Fukushima, Hideo Kojima, Yuji Shinkawa, Noriaki Okamura and many more from the original team who made this legendary franchise into existence as it is, they have my thanks.
    You got everything down to the last hair, excellent video.

    • @mycardboardbox
      @mycardboardbox  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      thank you very much I'm glad you feel it too there's no doubt this legacy of this franchise, will ever die and people such as yourself keep it alive thank you my friend,

    • @lookItUp91
      @lookItUp91 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Exactly, everyone who has actually played portable ops feels the same, it's cannon.

    • @lookItUp91
      @lookItUp91 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I was a mgs fan since I was 7 years old ,still am ,7years old that is... lmao jk I'm 32 but still a big fan just a little jaded due to kojimas huge inflated ego

    • @robinpimpin190
      @robinpimpin190 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I always have to say the same on video's haha. Portable Ops was a pivotal point in Big Boss his history. It literally planted the idea of his Outer Heaven inside him.

    • @tiaaaron3278
      @tiaaaron3278 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@robinpimpin190PO adds nothing to the story. It takes away from Big Boss by giving someone else the credit. It sucks.
      It also retcons Grey Fox and Volgin. Terrible.

  • @scribblenaughttv
    @scribblenaughttv 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    I appreciate that you added PO to this analysis. I always considered the game cannon, and the ability to take down Gene is actually pretty major

  • @antgarza4031
    @antgarza4031 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

    Solid Snake chucked Gray Fox like a ragdoll at 12:52 lmaooo

  • @BigBoss1292
    @BigBoss1292 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +66

    If they both faced each other in their prime, I feel like it would be a stalemate, maybe Big Boss would have a slight edge but it could go either way

    • @eRasedXem
      @eRasedXem 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Yeah boss would technically have the perceived advantage but remember Solid beat Liquid even though he himself was the "inferior" brother purely by power of will.

    • @GundamDroid
      @GundamDroid 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      @@eRasedXem in MGS4, the game itself says through the sheer will of solid snake alone it was how he was able to take on all the beast bosses, despite being outgunned, old, not on par technology wise and especially getting thru the oven segment

    • @muhammeterdemakbulut
      @muhammeterdemakbulut 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      portable ops makes venom snake above solid and it makes Big Boss second strongest just under MGR raiden, portable ops lore kills Solid Snake's feat of defeating Venom and Big Boss completely, portable ops also play a huge role about how Big Boss's peace walker feats are canon and why every game after peace walker is a simulation in lore, MGSV, MGS2, Portable ops and VR missions in metal gear franchise, all I gotta say is peace walker kills all MGSV's lore making it look fake and Metal Gear Zeke mock battle in peace walker, also frank jaegers part in portable ops and MGS2's whole you are in a simulation vibe is crazy

    • @Shuffit
      @Shuffit 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@eRasedXemI feel like that is a common theme in MGS. S-Snakes Will/Boss’s Will/Big Boss’s Will. They all had amazing willpower & resolve to do what they believed was right.

    • @e.xcalibre
      @e.xcalibre 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@muhammeterdemakbulut correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't the enhanced strength only a thing because of the cqc enhancing stealth suit? Never got a chance to play portable ops and im not as familiar with its plot as I used to be

  • @ChameleoSalamander1
    @ChameleoSalamander1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    Solid also was taking punches from ocelot from a robotic hand, same hand that han make a dent in Outer Haven, same Outer Haven which im sure is bullet proof. This was after he spent 5 minutes in a microwave. Solid has rediculous durability

  • @wes773105333
    @wes773105333 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

    It would definitely be a close fight, but I give it to Solid Snake. All the stuff he went through in MGS4 shows that he doesn't give up. Crawling through the microwave room and defeating Ocelot while in declining health is just on a whole other level. Big Boss disarming him at the end of MGS4 isn't as big of a feat because Solid Snake was at the end of his life and was ready to self delete.
    Solid Snake also showed himself to be a better person through his actions and how he treated others. He genuinely cared about the people around him and was a great mentor to Raiden. Big Boss's disagreement with Zero on how to accomplish the will of the Boss lead to the world conditions in MGS4. Solid Snake ended up bearing the burden of ending their mess.

    • @eric7137
      @eric7137 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Nicely said

    • @ramerefauntleroy4881
      @ramerefauntleroy4881 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Big boss survived a nuclear blast lol

  • @nakedsteak6010
    @nakedsteak6010 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +226

    Honestly in a one on one fight both in their prime, im pretty sure solid snake claps.

    • @antgarza4031
      @antgarza4031 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      He already did honestly xD lmao

    • @nakedsteak6010
      @nakedsteak6010 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +57

      @antgarza4031 venom and big boss were far from their primes and snake was just approaching his.

    • @markusballsdeep6051
      @markusballsdeep6051 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      No way
      Prime BB would clap like a mf

    • @KrashTheMusician
      @KrashTheMusician 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

      If it's 1 on 1 cqc big boss would destroy solid snake easily

    • @nakedsteak6010
      @nakedsteak6010 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @KrashTheMusician if you look at the characters snake beat and then look at the characters BB beat, it's not close. It's also even debatable on who's better at cqc.

  • @handgun559
    @handgun559 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    *edit: unfortunately my comments analysis doesn't work, really. Shame, I felt smart. I'd never played Twin Snakes till more recently, but Big Boss's cost in 4 is actually just Liquids coat from Twin Snakes. Why? Uhhh-
    Holy crap, it just clicked, and if this is unintentional, then Kojima is a fae being;
    Big Boss' coat at the end of MGS4 is a combination of Solids weird vest suit thing, and Liquids tan trench coat.
    It always stuck in my head, and I could see the resemblance to the MGS1 sneaking suit, but never bothered wondering why they went for that. But there it is. With Solids sneaking suit, Liquids trench coat, and his face being a dead ringer of Solidus - Big Boss is representing every snake in his costume for the finale, and thats just neat.

    • @saintdane9684
      @saintdane9684 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Well, Solidus was meant to be a perfect clone of Big Boss, so Big Boss doesnt look like Solidus, Solidus looks like Big Boss to a T

    • @handgun559
      @handgun559 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@saintdane9684 Lol valid.

  • @cptsnake1202
    @cptsnake1202 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I really like that you brought up the concept of Solid Snake from the Twin Snakes. While I never played the game sadly due to not owning a GameCube. I have played MGS1 and still think it’s the best choice if you want to enjoy the story and feel to the franchise.
    While The Twin Snakes definitely made Snake almost like a Matrix Character. I like the idea that someone once said.
    “ The Twin Snakes is basically the story told through Otacons eyes. While MGS1 is how it actually happened.”
    As for the scene of Solid Snake vs Gray Fox in the Twin Snakes. I liked it did show the skill sets of hand to hand combat that Solid Snake does have in the scene. Primarily using taekwondo, but still being able to use his fist effectively. In the end throwing Gray Fox over his shoulder like it was nothing.
    Another thing I really liked is that you brought up how many missions both characters have done and specifically explained what they were challenged with. While both have different scenarios, it still adds to the craziness they both had to deal with.
    All in all I enjoyed the video and really hope it agains more views and likes that it deserves.

  • @simonblock4773
    @simonblock4773 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Great content yet again, youre becoming the premier MGS channel

  • @robinpimpin190
    @robinpimpin190 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    That little codec call Snake has with Otcacon about using CQC always gets me. He learned it from the man himself, but chose not to use it because of Big boss' betrayal, even though using CQC was like second nature to him.

  • @SilentSnake1998
    @SilentSnake1998 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I feel like Solid Snake has better feats when it comes to physical capability, and even when it comes to CQC he moved almost like Big Boss himself even while rapid aging. Not to mention that Snake surpassing Big Boss literally happened in the games, and fits with one of the running themes of the franchise, that being sons surpassing their fathers.
    (Otacon surpassing Huey as an engineer and as a person in general, Fatman surpassing Stillman who was like a father to him, old foxdie virus being overwritten by a new one, the patriots ai wrestling control from major zero, and Solid Snake erasing Big Boss three times)

  • @set-l1520
    @set-l1520 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    "Who's the better soldier?"
    *over two hours later*
    "They're both winners :)"

  • @StephenJohn-iw1wh
    @StephenJohn-iw1wh 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    Better soldier - Big Boss.
    Better man - Solid Snake

    • @Xxandrew01
      @Xxandrew01 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      This! Solid Snake was also the better mentor, based on how he handled Raiden in MGS2 SOL.

    • @KorruptedFlame
      @KorruptedFlame 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Nope, Solid was both a batter Soldier and better man. Big Boss spent his entire life in an emo rage over The Boss and got his ass clapped by Solid lmao

    • @cantsuggestareasonablename9101
      @cantsuggestareasonablename9101 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@KorruptedFlameSolid snake was acctually the only snake that was in the positive side of the spectrum and actually fulfilled the bosses will but to be fair venom snake also kind of acknowledged the bosses will too.

    • @mycardboardbox
      @mycardboardbox  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@cantsuggestareasonablename9101 i completely disagree with you there, venom snake, barley had any knowledge on the boss aside from the fragmented hypnosis been fed through repetitively been told he's big boss, hence his slight knowledge of the boss to the latter in essence he didn't understand it because he was carrying out the will of big boss, his ideologies where that of a interpretation, based of big boss belief on the bosses' will, so yep little hiccup there, however as for solid snake he exceeded and surpassed the bosses will she wanted to unite the world, which is, was, delusional, solid snake wanted to let the world be but protect it from evil and keep the integrity of human structure, and fight for change, your welcome

    • @cantsuggestareasonablename9101
      @cantsuggestareasonablename9101 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@mycardboardbox Seems like someone forgot about the peace chapter/nuclear disarmament ending we’re venom talks about his world some day not needing soldiers as well as talking to the boss not literally meaning he has knowledge of the boss so yeah I don’t know what your even talking about lol and I don’t care if you give me an excuse that the peace chapter is not canon even though it is all that matters is that venom does have some acknowledgment of the bosses will as well as having that kind of mindset within him which big boss doesn’t have so anyways you my friend are greatly mistaken 👍.

  • @theViewer221
    @theViewer221 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Before the video begins: I would say Solid Snake because due to the advancement in technology that Solid had to take down. Also the training that Solid received was created by Big Boss and others from experience. So when Solid got trained he was practically trained to the level that Big Boss has developed and learned. Also when Solid fought Big Boss in MG2, Solid only had a lighter and a something flammable. Big Boss had a gun, and Solid was worn out, tired and just got done fighting Grey Fox.

  • @KBXband
    @KBXband 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Naked Snake started out well trained but very naiive, whereas Solid has no such issue. However he is very much under informed and Im sure it would bite him in the arse. In a battle of pure technique and strength, I think Solid would win.

    • @mycardboardbox
      @mycardboardbox  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      i completely agree with you big boss is very naive, and it cost him alot through is missions, during the virtuous mission and ground zeros, solid snake didn't get in many scrapes because he was far more careful and un trusting, which in the line of work of espionage you cant trust anyone but yourself its fair to say solid snake was far more observant and knew when a situation was too sticky

  • @Jean-ClaudeGodDamn
    @Jean-ClaudeGodDamn 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    By the age of 33:
    Solid Snake - defeated Venom Snake and his elite soldiers, eliminated Outer Heaven PMC, defeated Big Boss and Grey Fox, defeated Zanzibar Land special Forces, Metal Gear D, eliminated FOXHOUND and Liquid Snake and defeated a cyborg Grey Fox, destroyed Metal Gear Rex.
    Big Boss- eliminated the Cobras and Volgin and the Boss and destroyed the Shagohod.

    • @cantsuggestareasonablename9101
      @cantsuggestareasonablename9101 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Not to mention Rex is like the strongest metal gear

    • @GeneFOX70
      @GeneFOX70 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@cantsuggestareasonablename9101 Ray and Excelcus are more powerful than Rex.

    • @cantsuggestareasonablename9101
      @cantsuggestareasonablename9101 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@GeneFOX70 In my opinion rex is more powerful , ray is like a joke sorry also I forgot about that crab looking metal gear but I think Rex can do some serious damage which may and may not be true since exelcus looks like it has a strong layer of armour. Rex pretty much has the best weaponry which can deliver devastating blows on its target.

    • @randolorian7157
      @randolorian7157 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      ​@@GeneFOX70Really cause I distinctly remember Snake someone with no piloting experience using a decomissioned battle damaged Rex to beat Rays ass?

    • @diegomedina9637
      @diegomedina9637 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Big Boss gets massive points from enduring torture from Volgin, he also took down some A.I powered Metal Gears on his own and may and might not have been involved in some other conflicts after he woke up from a 9 year long Coma.

  • @Vernal_
    @Vernal_ 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    “There’s a lot of bad guys and only one of you” gotta be one of the hardest lines in the series

  • @Solinvic
    @Solinvic 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    solid job for such a small channel! congrats

  • @ArcticB4Desert
    @ArcticB4Desert 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Big Boss is the more tragic figure to me, and Solid will always be my favorite character in the series purely for the fact that his sheer will pulled him through every form of bullshit that came his way. Amazing writing throughout the series!

  • @orangexd8469
    @orangexd8469 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    One of your best videos❤

  • @michaelkennedy8303
    @michaelkennedy8303 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very good video, well done my friend

  • @dewforpolitics
    @dewforpolitics 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Also happy to subscribed

    • @mycardboardbox
      @mycardboardbox  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      thank you very much for your support boss! il be sure to get myself a cigar 🚬it really means a lot

  • @dicembre15_mat
    @dicembre15_mat 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I know what im going to Watch the whole night

    • @TheKirky
      @TheKirky 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      lol

  • @horactixtv
    @horactixtv 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Great video- but this is one of the major reasons we need Metal Gear Solid 6- a remake of the MSX games to finish this question once and for all.

    • @ifyouleavenow5960
      @ifyouleavenow5960 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It'd just prove big boss is the stronger solder. If he could put up a fight and then some at that old age, he'd wipe the floor with solid if he was in his prime

    • @horactixtv
      @horactixtv 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@ifyouleavenow5960 I'll take old man with assault rifle over normal man with lighter and hairspray for $500. Wait he frickin' lost? Aw crap all my money is gone that's just great

  • @TheKirky
    @TheKirky 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Thanks!

    • @mycardboardbox
      @mycardboardbox  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      🎉🎉🥳🥳🎉

  • @TexasAmericana
    @TexasAmericana 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    LMG Machine Guns is a redundancy. Other than that little chuckle, very great video, well narrated, nice analysis.

  • @joshuar3632
    @joshuar3632 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Deathbattle solid snake vs sam fisher. Great video

  • @tiaaaron3278
    @tiaaaron3278 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video. What is the source of Solid Snake pic on the thumbnail?

  • @shadowsnake3867
    @shadowsnake3867 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Big Boss/Naked Snake vs Solid Snake between the two for sure big boss wins if they have both equipments. Solid has too many advance technology with him. There's a reason why both Liquid and Big Boss had to die by fox die. Big Boss is a legend for a reason. Even on mgs4 he was in a deep slumber for a while so his muscles and reflexes should be slowed down and yet managed to outsmart Solid on that cqc. Even on the end of mgs1 ocelot had already said the inferior one won. Solid was just a pawn on the plans to bring down the whole system that's why he has so many help as he was aging rapidly.

  • @tonytrident8874
    @tonytrident8874 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    We should have gotten a return to Camp Omega missions in phantom pain.
    Also it felt like 2 different games. The stories didn't feel connected.
    We even missed out on a sick version of Chico and a boss fight. That would have helped connect the two game's.

  • @ThatBugBehindYou
    @ThatBugBehindYou 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Something you can never forget about is Solid Snake's luck and his crew, it's never just going to be a fight between the two and Solid seems like he would always end up with a better team backing him up.
    As for combat, it seems like Solid Snake is the stronger player but Big Boss seems to have a better head and would outwit Solid in at least the beginning of any fight, but again Otacon will almost always even the playing field with help in those situations and Solid's battle sense is high enough to even things out.
    More than any of that is Solid Snake and Psycho Mantis. Is the 4th wall breaking something that has implications on Solid's actual abilities? Can he really see in 3rd person? Can he control himself from a third perspective? Is there a level of psychic ability Solid has?
    At the end of it all I can't see Solid losing but the confrontation between the two would absolutely not be one fight.

  • @davidgeorge3944
    @davidgeorge3944 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Solid snake would clap big boss prime for prime but did you see the shit he went through at the end of 4? Ocelot beat him half to death he got fried in a radiation wave oven tunnel he was fighting ludicrous eldridge style AI robot creatures left and right it was a fucking joke. After all that bollocks big boss showing up at that time whilst he's in recovery and big boss is sitting aside all new and fresh.. And I feel snake almost could feel the non life threatening usage of cqc at the time and it was throwing him off perhaps also as big boss wasnt trying to actively hurt him that might of thrown his game right off giving boss a split second advantage but.. Had he not hugged solid snake instead of hugged him, snake probably would of judo throwed his ass or tried something and it would of gone on till one went for a lethal move lol after all... there is only room for one snake. And one big boss.

    • @mycardboardbox
      @mycardboardbox  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      no, the world would be better of without snakes...

  • @VincentK.McMahon
    @VincentK.McMahon 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Solid snake is literally the genetic scraps of BB. BB buries him.

  • @TaneTaiaroa-ip7dn
    @TaneTaiaroa-ip7dn 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    After big boss ocelot is the best at CQC

    • @mycardboardbox
      @mycardboardbox  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      your the first person say this and i love it!, some people just refuse the fact ocelots excellence in cqc even put venom snake over him, just look how damn good he got after a small bit of training in mgs3

    • @TaneTaiaroa-ip7dn
      @TaneTaiaroa-ip7dn 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@mycardboardbox well those are the facts from the first encounter with naked snake till the very end when they leave in the jet also his mother unbeknown to him at the time is the mother of special forces. So in my eyes ocelot is second best.

  • @nelsonminator
    @nelsonminator 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    They are both different people. They're similar but different, but both have the same will to fight! Big Boss will was controlled by the same technology as the B&B corps! But they weren't lucky enough to capture Solid Snake.

  • @sullyvstheworld
    @sullyvstheworld 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What’s the song at 2:12:34?

  • @user-sy4nt3oz3v
    @user-sy4nt3oz3v 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    My money is on solid snake.
    My favorite is big boss.

  • @andyromero7837
    @andyromero7837 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    At the end of the day, everything that Solid Snake is was possible for the genes of the legendary soldier himself, Big Boss. You can compare father to son but will run into the issue of the times they had to grow up in. Solid Snake’s time was filled with much more war and technology to train and adapt to. However, taking a look at Big Boss’s feats for the time he was in only proves that he’s the better soldier who would win in a fight because if you place him in any other time than the one he’s born in, he would excel in war just as I believe the same would apply for Solid snake for having the genes of Big Boss. Now would that lead into a stalemate? I still believe not because there’s one very important difference between Big Boss and Solid snake, and that’s the feat of Big Boss adapting to losing an eye within operation snake eater for what seems almost immediately. Loss of depth perception and the eye he would primarily use for aiming for being right handed surely would cause most soldiers to falter, but Big Boss adapted to it so quickly, so much so that he still was considered the best soldier of his time. I truly believe that Solid snake is an amazing soldier, but one irrefutable truth is that he is the sack seed of Big Boss. Everything that Solid is, comes from Big Boss, which leads to the truth that Big Boss is more than Solid’s all and the only variable that affects their comparison besides that is the time they are placed in. Side by side, both at their prime, and placed in any time together, Big Boss takes the Cake for being Everything and more than what Solid Snake is.

  • @Grant918Tulsa
    @Grant918Tulsa 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Snake > Fisher.

    • @user-sb8ig9dk2f
      @user-sb8ig9dk2f 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Snake (either Solid Snake or Big Boss) vs Sam Fisher
      Have them meet in a secluded building and they have to fight for the duration of 24 hours. Also, any equipment and weapon that they have at their disposal are highly permitted.

    • @Grant918Tulsa
      @Grant918Tulsa 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@user-sb8ig9dk2f Death Battle

  • @zerofaith
    @zerofaith 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I feel like whatever game was your favorite is what determines who you think would win. I like big boss because of snake eater. When it comes down to it solid snake did beat big boss so... MGS is a great game series.

  • @ImBadWithNamesSadly
    @ImBadWithNamesSadly 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I really think it would be a stalemate, they would fight and fight and fight but probably realize that the fight was a waste of time, before they could kill each other. Still I feel like putting the amount of infiltration missions and boss fights wouldn't be really fair, because they obviously did more in between games, especially because big boss created his own military force multiple times, while solid even went on retirement for a while, regardless, I feel like one character having more games than the other would obviously make one of them have a higher number of mission and bosses

  • @plo617
    @plo617 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Big Boss. Solid Snake likely had better (state of the art) training and tech on his side. Take Big Boss and Solid Snake in their prime and give them the same training and I'd say it would likely be Big Boss.

    • @KaitouKaiju
      @KaitouKaiju 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Solid didn't take much of anything into the battlefield

  • @theyhaventfedmesince
    @theyhaventfedmesince 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I see it as it makes sense for the newer generation to be better. They had wider pool of references to learn from. For example the 24th caprice was made to be a piece only Paganini could play. The peak of human performance. But in this day and age, you have no shortage of great musicians who can play it just as good if not better. But at the end of the day, it's still the 24th caprice. People right now still call it the one of if not the hardest piece ever made. Be it out of respect or just fact.
    I kinda see it like that too here. Makes sense why solid snake may be better than big boss, but big boss is big boss for a reason. It's like that too in peace walker and phantom pain where you can get soldiers with better stat than big boss himself.

  • @user-fz1gx7ol6o
    @user-fz1gx7ol6o 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice

  • @Konrad-zc1ve
    @Konrad-zc1ve หลายเดือนก่อน

    i think the only reason why solid snake was able to defeat big boss in Zanzibar land is perhaps because BB had uncuncious or not know father feelings and viewed snake has a son, BB also probably let snake kill him unconciously and why didn't use cqc on snake as it would have been a death sentence for snake in zanzibar land

  • @MKDumas1981
    @MKDumas1981 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    13:17 - SHOURYUUKEN!

  • @mohio2020
    @mohio2020 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    My money is on the Boss. Dude is absolutely ruthless based on the Outer Heaven lore that I hope they remake one day. Only one who could give him a run though would be Solid Snake.

  • @gyllenborg91
    @gyllenborg91 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have no clue who would win in an actual fight between Big Boss and Solid Snake, but I can definitely say I've always liked Solid Snake more than Big Boss.
    And I, to this day, still think Konami did Solid Snake dirty in MGS4 with the whole accelerated aging bs...

    • @SonGoku-yb3zm
      @SonGoku-yb3zm 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It wasn’t BS, it pertained to the story. The clones were never meant to live long or reproduce. They were just weapons and basically once their jobs were finished. The fast aging would terminate them. Same premise of of any message James Bond received would self destruct once it finished playing. That’s called beautiful writing dude. Now if that’s how you feel/personal opinion. Well, that’s a different narrative.

    • @gyllenborg91
      @gyllenborg91 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@SonGoku-yb3zm It's BS. The only reason they worked that into the plot is because Hideo Kojima--admitted by himself in several interviews--is because he wanted the MGS franchise to die and killed Solid Snake to prevent him from being in any more games.
      In fact, he wanted Snake to die then and there when he holds the gun in his mouth, but the development team managed to talk him out of it, and instead allowed Snake to live his last few years.

    • @SonGoku-yb3zm
      @SonGoku-yb3zm 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@gyllenborg91 It seems you missed what I was saying. When I said it was good writing. I never said it was planned all a long. In everything you just stated, the why he did it. Wanting for MGS to end etc, that's all part of it my guy. This is why I said what I said at the end of a different narrative. How you feel about it and what was done is two different narratives. If you don't agree with the reasons why he did it/the aging, you have that right but for me. I liked it based on how much it fit with the story/the endgame of the cloning. In general, I loved that he died of old age rather than him using a gun or being killed.

  • @capitalism5527
    @capitalism5527 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    if fox die would have worked slower then solid snake would have died in shadow mosses cause of liquid snakes larger than life durability

  • @Gav464
    @Gav464 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You made it sound like big boss start with a lot more gear

  • @thomaskelly5309
    @thomaskelly5309 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I'll give you my like after I've watched the whole thing, and Solid wins of course.

    • @thomaskelly5309
      @thomaskelly5309 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I obviously liked and subscribed, pretty 'SOLID' video.

  • @rns_nickitoloko_psn5775
    @rns_nickitoloko_psn5775 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    THE FEAR, THE FEEEEAAARRR!!!

  • @avencebi
    @avencebi 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    In a prime 1 vs 1 cqc fight I give it to big boss...but in the end they are the same person so they both win 😂...also this is a great video 👍🏽

  • @residentnoodler9123
    @residentnoodler9123 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Also the funny thing is that Big Boss is also a better surgeon than you would expect from a soldier

    • @mycardboardbox
      @mycardboardbox  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      what does this even mean?

    • @cantsuggestareasonablename9101
      @cantsuggestareasonablename9101 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If your taking about naked snake I would have to disagree.

    • @mycardboardbox
      @mycardboardbox  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cantsuggestareasonablename9101 i think he's confused with venom snake if u ask me "the medic"

    • @diegomedina9637
      @diegomedina9637 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@mycardboardboxI think that's the joke...

  • @rhythmandacoustics
    @rhythmandacoustics 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    We would assume venom snake is on par with naked snake, solid snake could beat them.

  • @smokeythebandit6423
    @smokeythebandit6423 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How the hell did you get mgs1 to look like 2

    • @TrueGenerations
      @TrueGenerations 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Twin Snakes remake - it’s not as good of a game imo though

  • @rhysmyatt5136
    @rhysmyatt5136 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think Solid Snake would win but barely and down to one small detail, his will to survive, his will to overcome odds. I think Big Boss lost a part of that will once he felt that the boss put her gun down.

  • @themodernotaku
    @themodernotaku 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    “Preying Mantis” bro.

  • @TheKirky
    @TheKirky 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    gratz on ur first premiere of 2 hour film bro lol

  • @reapercarl5047
    @reapercarl5047 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Big boss was the original an for a reason i think that his years of exsperiance tip the scale in his favour, of course solid snake was the closest replica of big biss, an he rearly came into his own, but when you look at it forgettin the gear aspect as a soldier an bare handed including survile skills hes ahead an altho i do think solid snake has a few things tipped in his favour like robo riaden on speed dial 🤣 i still think bigboss has more stratigic knolage an the ability to think of tye bigger pitcher

  • @Threesixtyci
    @Threesixtyci 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    idk... Solid Snake can surf board on missiles in the Wii version of MGS2

  • @aurteekay6339
    @aurteekay6339 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gray fox : “MORE!!! GIVE ME MORE SNAKE!!!”
    Snake : “AYO CHILLLLLLL”
    😂😂

  • @CrayZgunZ
    @CrayZgunZ 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    BTW, the boss shot snake in the leg, she shot a bullet containing the fake death pill.

  • @howtolosekwick
    @howtolosekwick 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    ❤❤❤

  • @adrianrenard1262
    @adrianrenard1262 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Solid because he not only had the recessive genes, but did everything thanks to the training of Big Boss himself and his own incorruptible morals and willpower, I think it is pretty obvious how the series tells this narrative of how Solid is almost identical to Big Boss but while BB became deranged, angry, revengeful and egotistical Solid always fought for others not to destroy nor harm but to save lives even if nobody knew he existed nor even if it costed him his life.

  • @Starwarsdude8221991
    @Starwarsdude8221991 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Much as I like big boss, Solid did more with less big boss as far as I am aware never fought Solid fresh.

  • @MegaMantra
    @MegaMantra 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Big Boss

  • @chrisfaulkner8968
    @chrisfaulkner8968 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    44k views letsss goooo

  • @sortedevaras
    @sortedevaras 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Big Boss wasn't even as strong as Venom, and Solid killed them both. Solid also beat Liquid, who was almost a superhuman.

  • @tripgiannini1892
    @tripgiannini1892 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nano Machines Son!

  • @MarioGarcia-io9gj
    @MarioGarcia-io9gj 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:02:52 ''snaked snake''

  • @Kaydje
    @Kaydje 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Solid Snake is basically the anti-Snake. He eliminates almost every iteration of "Snake," and was even about to self-terminate were it not for surprise dadQC.

    • @GOLDHAJIKVONGOLA
      @GOLDHAJIKVONGOLA 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      cqh CLOSE QUATERED HUGS

    • @venom_snake79
      @venom_snake79 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ironic part about this comment is that big boss in po or pw i forgot beat a anti snake who was literally designed to be a anti snake

  • @shortsmiddleton
    @shortsmiddleton 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Solid Snake Vs Acid Snake

  • @redhawk77
    @redhawk77 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    HONESTLY big boss and solid are equal on every level BUT solid fought gray fox post enhancement and with a blade and was hardly concerned for his safety i dont think Big boss could have comfortably handled post enhancement gray fox like Solid did

  • @maulkiller10
    @maulkiller10 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do one about venom snake

    • @mycardboardbox
      @mycardboardbox  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      about what in particular? big boss out does venom. its not a worthy analysis but i could do one sorley for him if thats what you mean?

    • @maulkiller10
      @maulkiller10 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@mycardboardbox i mean one sorley for venom like u did gray fox

    • @mycardboardbox
      @mycardboardbox  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@maulkiller10 il see what i can do bud 👍

  • @cosmosequation6672
    @cosmosequation6672 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They are equal however Solid has nanomachines son, so Solid Snake might clap, But Big Boss is the greatest soldier due to David being literally a attempted creation of Naked Snake issue is he didnt have all the genetics of big boss only his appearance. So more of a son rather than a clone.

  • @jagbarakor1303
    @jagbarakor1303 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Let me get this straight. Solid snake started in Metal Gear 1 and 2? After that Solid Snakes story continues in Metal Gear Solid 1. In Metal Gear Solid 2 Solid is a sidecharacter. In Metal Gear Solid 3 prequal and about Big Boss. Solid 4 Solid Snake ends his story and has little to live.

    • @mycardboardbox
      @mycardboardbox  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      you would be very correct 👍 👍

    • @borakaraca9788
      @borakaraca9788 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      big boss is a legend and solid snake is just a copycat of the legend

    • @KaitouKaiju
      @KaitouKaiju 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@borakaraca9788 Solid Snake's legend has arguably surpassed BB

  • @ramerefauntleroy4881
    @ramerefauntleroy4881 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Big boss is like batman and the boss is like lady shiva someome batman cant beet hand to hand

  • @bryantambracc
    @bryantambracc 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Didn't Solid Snake bested Big Boss in Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake?

    • @sortedevaras
      @sortedevaras 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Yes

  • @bug5money
    @bug5money 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Solid snake I think takes the cake, I think venom snake might’ve been better then big boss.

  • @mrnic4787
    @mrnic4787 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Solid snake beat big boss twice and didn’t need cqc to complete his missions he’s the best

  • @jc83942
    @jc83942 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You're pretty good...

  • @austinservos9495
    @austinservos9495 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Solid snake for sure!

  • @HugoStiglitz88
    @HugoStiglitz88 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Solid wins easily and he's also the better character

  • @ChanceTM
    @ChanceTM 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I guess Leon S. Kennedy used CQC 🤣

  • @mwperk02
    @mwperk02 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Solod snake fights and defeats blatantly stronger opponents than big boss. Metal gear rex piloted by liquid as well as the metal gear piloted by gray fox> every single metal gear big boss ever fought in the lore. Gray fox also just blatantly tanked the explosion of his metap gear practically unharmed and snake then proceeds to nearly kill him in a fist fight. What this means is snakes punches are more powerful than that metal gear explosion which would be equivilant to several tons of tnt in terms of energy release at a minimum. Liquid ocelot can also blatantly dodge rexs laser cannon which moves atleast at 70% the speed of light giving ocelot relativistic speed snake then bests him in a fist fight which means snake would have similar if not superior speed to ocelot. If i remember ocelot also just smashed a hole in arsenal gear with his fists meaning snake can block and take punches from someone capable of crushing through a material designed to withstand heavy ordnance like missile strikes. Compared to volgin punching a concrete wall makes volgin look like a paper tiger in comparison. This does lead me to believe even if you want to take snake chucking metal gear zekes foot like it was nothing as canon then solid snake still has an argument for being physically superior even in his old decrepid body.

    • @venom_snake79
      @venom_snake79 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      bb carried metal gears without struggle. and he holds infinity, wears infinity on his face, and has infinity on top of his head. he held tge patriot while solid never canonically held it. and snake does have the inf bandana which is canon but bb has more ifinitys on him. bro wears it like its jewlery fr

  • @cosmicsage911
    @cosmicsage911 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Big boss is the one that taught solid snake cqc

  • @eduardoaguilar7361
    @eduardoaguilar7361 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Big Boss has far and I do mean FAR more experience and was tested and proven in combat so much more. Solid was greatly aided by technology. BB takes Solid easily.

  • @agentspliff
    @agentspliff 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    just started but solid snake beat venom and big boss soooo...

    • @mycardboardbox
      @mycardboardbox  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ye when they were practically grandads sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo....

    • @agentspliff
      @agentspliff 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      so you mean prime vs prime? (I started your vid before I family came over and was about to watch funnily enough and it's a long vid and I can tell you it's been good so for. I subbed. soooo got to get back to it.. also you said bb is peak at like 40 to 50 years old? that's one thing I don't agree with. I think snake eater snake was built for war from training from the boss so that's his peak. what about him vs old snake lol jk)@@mycardboardbox

  • @bouncingdynamo3968
    @bouncingdynamo3968 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't really know how to ask this without it potentially being very offensive to the creators, but... Was this written using chatgpt? There's a very specific set of flowery overexplaining to the sentence structure that consistently happens throughout the runtime of the video. It's possible it may be related to a language barrier, or simple writing skill. If that's the case, I don't mean to offend and apologize for the implication.

  • @diegomedina9637
    @diegomedina9637 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'll add this to the list only because i know it will piss people off: Solid is better than Naked because he jumped off a missile in order to have a clear shot at a Hin-D

  • @benwilliams3539
    @benwilliams3539 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Big boss was using a vape in mgs5 so he clearly has low T and loses.

  • @TheKirky
    @TheKirky 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    how old is big boss in mgsv

    • @mycardboardbox
      @mycardboardbox  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Big Boss was born in 1935, In the game Metal Gear Solid V Ground Zeroes, which takes place in 1975, Big Boss is around 40 years old and still a badass lol,

    • @giovannibalsamo6178
      @giovannibalsamo6178 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      real BB was in his late 40's - early 50's in 1984, venom snake could be in his mid 30's or early-mid 40's.

    • @zacharyhall689
      @zacharyhall689 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@giovannibalsamo6178actually venom snake is older than naked snake

  • @westsquests9504
    @westsquests9504 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lol I like the video but you said some extra cheesy stuff when the pain and the fury 😂😂😂

  • @agentspliff
    @agentspliff 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Zanzerbeer lol. Outer heaven must be one hell of a bunch of drunks 😂

    • @mycardboardbox
      @mycardboardbox  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      lol wouldn't surprise me

    • @agentspliff
      @agentspliff 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @mycardboardbox be better if big boss made zanzibar 420 City