I think the biggest reason why Cleric is the least picked class is because most people keep Shadowheart in the party and don't want to overlap with her.
i tend to agree with this...plua a cleric ideally needs con and some dex and even a little str which means you're never going to be the face (which is the other huge factor...I think many people want their char to be the face hence the extra popularity of paladin and sorc.
@FriendlyArchpriest true but I dont think the stat is taking into account multiclassing cuz otherwise itd be all over the place with almost everyone dipping into at least one other class for a level or 2
This. Most people are going to make their character a party face unless ur in a coop campaign. And even then, it's only because someone else is already doing it. Their tav is essentially the main character, so having a class you can have high charisma in to actually talk to people makes sense. Especially since the memes are so popular of people doing crazy shenanigans, just with dialogue options. People are naturally gonna try to replicate those.
The best party face is level 1 Rogue, 16 dex, 16 cha, charlatan, with proficiency in almost every social skill, and expertise in perception and deception. Then multiclass into any cha class to get stronk.
I went Wizard and had some success with detect thoughts, however this seems to have fallen off in act 2. The real problem is I am going into a CHA skill check conversation, I switch to a CHA character, and it switches over to the TAV. Its frustrating because this doesn't happen consistently.
For Mass Effect, a rare thing I did that was satisfying: let Wrex die or not meet him in 1. In 2, don't save Maelon's data... this makes Eve die in 3 (nothing you do in ME3 but your decisions on Mordin's loyalty mission in 2), and IF BOTH Wrex and Eve are nowhere to be found and Wreav is krogan leader and kept unchecked, Mordin Solus agrees to sabotage the cure, so you don't have to kill him, he doesn't make a sacrifice, and lives. There are special messages related to that and I don't think many people got those. Really cool for second or third run when you want to see interactions with Wreav anyway.
The idea behind the Halfling Bard is that the only way your Bard is going to fail a dialogue choice (Charisma check) is if you roll a Natural 1. Halfling's reroll their Natural 1's. Therefore my Honour Mode Halfling Bard only had a 1/400 chance of failing their checks instead of 1/20. Long story short, I never failed a single check in my Honour mode run.
Betrayed is a strong word overall, since he's a gas-lighting sack of crap (literally any challenging question to him is met with insults and playing the victim, and every set back is somehow your fault) who has betrayed everyone he has ever worked with or who has cared for him. The only reason he doesn't this time is because your Tav is either stupid enough or wilfully ignorant enough to drink the kool-aid and do everything he wants. The perfect patsy.
@@stitchowi so his choice was: 1) fall back under the brain control 2) try to fight with us against the brain and fall back under its control He choses the first one. Like what?? I was skeptic but overall positive about him till he tried to "romance" me up. Then I was like no, but I get it, you were single for long so its all right, I won't hold it against you. And then he takes the most idiotic route at the end. The issue with him absorbing Orpheus isn't that he would give a tentacle guy super powers that can make him insanely strong. The issue is that the apparently only thing in the entire universe which holds the brains and tentacles back is Orpheus. So, killing him is, as far as I'm concerned a long term mistake. He is super valuable alive and the overall peace in the universe is on his shoulders. Which is also why I convinced him to stay alive as a tentacle guy at the end. Sure, it sucks but I'm not going to become a tentacle guy. Yet, I can tell that killing that dude would be a bad bad move.
My God, the numbers speak for themselves. The secret to beating Honour Mode was hidden in plain sight all along. We have to try to pet His Majesty for a guaranteed successful run!
@@kiro253 Yeah monk is nuts with tavern brawler, doesnt matter how tough the enemy is you can hit them and likely knock them down. Duel class 3 levels in thief for another reaction to use even more attacks.
The Emperor throws the biggest tantrum at the pivotal moment. "You won't listen to me and do as I say and still want to release Orpheus? Fine, I'm going to join the bad guys."
I believe it’s because the Emperor prioritizes freedom, survival, and power all in that order. He needs to be free of the Netherbrain, but if Orpheus is freed he will most certainly be killed for everything he’s done up to this point. So he has to turn to survival. I think he could’ve expressed it a bit better. If he said “By freeing him you’ve ordered my execution. I do NOT take that lightly. I will join with the Netherbrain and spare myself that execution. How disappointing,” it could’ve made his intentions more clear. Realistically, the artifact and Orpheus’ power are the only things keeping the Emperor autonomous. If Orpheus forces him to leave, he will join the Netherbrain automatically. And if Orpheus kills him, everything he’s worked for will be for nothing and he will die. It’s a lose lose for him.
@@Rexis102 Yeah, but then they turn around and go "alright now we totally need one of us to become a Mindflayer. Too bad we didn't conveniently have someone available that was already one, oh well."
@@AirLancer Orpheus would never allow The Emperor to have *that* important of a role in his plan. Orpheus has a (valid) personal vendetta against The Emperor. TE has also proven he’s manipulative. We have not. Orpheus questions and tests us before making a full judgement call. He has his suspicions and raises his doubts, but we can earn his trust. I still think it’s written in a poor way, don’t get me wrong. But the Emperor had no good way out once we had the Orphic Hammer and intended to use it.
@@aekritleborgne1065 well… 1. Most people on their first playthrough aren’t probably going to sacrifice anyone. 2. Most people playing Honor Mode are NOT on their first playthrough. 3. Whether you sacrificed Gale or not, you still had to navigate 50 to 70 hours of Honor Mode difficulty and combat to successfully get to the end. Plus - you get the achievement whether you did the extra work or not against the Elder Brain…so, ‘hate the game, not the player’.
I saw some people that are genuinely mad about it, but I think it’s quite cool. After hours spent into the game, some people are bound to get curious as to what else the game offers outside the usual “righteous” path. An ending only 34 people have seen, this just shows how incredible Larian is.
That is the one that really blew my mind. That there were hundreds of thousands of some interactions, millions of others, and only 34 of this one particular result. That just shows how deep this game really is that amongst millions of possibilities only 34 have found this one. Wild!
I got really angry the other day. I'm playing durge warlock so obviously I have to have the greatest robe in the game for the warlock. But at the same time I was going to romance minthara for the very first time since I've never recruited her. You cannot romance her without raiding the grove which results in alfira's death. That also means I don't get the armor of persistence or the boots or the dreadshot or any of the other good stuff. So what I decided to do was to use mods to summon in the tutorial chest and the barrel and pulled out everything that was related to their quest rewards and purchasable and just throw it in my camp storage and only use it when I would normally get access to it. I honestly feel that you lose out on so much of this game just from raiding the Grove in the very first act. It's honestly such a disappointment that you lose out on what feels like around 20% of this game just from a single choice in the very first act. Even after a year and a lot of updates to the evil playthrough aspects it seems like evil playthroughs will always get these short end of the stick every single time.
That was such a dick move on Larian's part. The default Durge is a sorceror with no armor or shield specialization, but then they intentionally made it impossible for Durge to get the best robe in the game without metagaming.
@@riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiipIf you want to recruit Minthara without raiding the grove in the future, you can turn on and use a non-lethal attack to knock her out when you attack her in the goblin camp. This will still allow you to recruit her in her normal place in act 2. This was added in in one of the patches after launch and I just did it in my current playthrough, so it does work.
13:16 My bet is it's the movement speed. Any race that has lower movement speed gets played less. Hence Dwarf, Halfling and Gnome occupying the bottom 3. Literally nothing is worse than being 0.0000005m away from being able to make a melee attack and then you have to used ranged at disadvantage. But just in general the most op thing you can do is be mobile, it gives you a tremendous advantage in fights. Such as kiting melee enemies with ranged attacks just to give an example.
I think it's moreso that with romance in the game, it kindof seems weird to romance regular length characters while you are like less than a meter tall or smth lol. I'm more surprised that dragonborn is so high but it's likely because the default durge starts as one.
I can feel that fact in my bones! I love a dwarf beast master, but at level 6 I had to bail after just one too many instances of failing to get into melee range at a crucial point in combat. And that’s with _Longstrider_ active.
I played a Dwarf melee Ranger. It's not so bad. Especially with the cap of momentum and longstrider, and later misty step. Very rarely am I just out of range.
Maybe 34 out of the 34 that played Lae'Zel and reached that point in game. Mine was destroyed by the Gith Patrol Act 1 just because I wanted to roleplay and give the artefact to them. Then betrayed by Vlaakith when she said I hadn't kill the one inside despite doing that straight as a Roleplay Lae'Zel would do... Maybe i'll reach that kind of proposal, for now i'm just out of Rosemary Monastery.
The Gale blow himself up stat is an early ending. You can blow Gale up in act 2 when the 3 baddies are together if you have Gale in Parfty. Resulting in ending the game before you finish act 2 and entire party is dead. You get end credits scene and even the achievement for finishing the game. And the Emperor romance has an achievement attached to it. So in one of my playtroughs i quicksaved ran trough the romance options real quick, reloaded my safe as a shower to wash him off me after the walk of shame home and pretend it never happened.
" it is an Ending..of sorts.." Hundreds of Mindflayers will appear suddenly across the Sword Coast as thier tadpoles, no longer controlled by the Absolute , will finish thier Ceromorphosis..
There is an ending, in Act 3, where Gale blows up the brain, and it counts as a proper ending. I'm fairly sure that stat refers to that ending rather than the early "fake" ending you can get in Act 2 (since the stat is under "endings" which lists the other proper endings)
I did try but refused to kiss him once the evil angry goddess ex he's still obsessed with cape up. Danced with Wyll instead. (My half-elf is failing at eating hot chip, charge her phone and be bisexual).
I shipped around every romance in my first playthrough (which I just ended some days ago since I have the game just for some weeks) and had to turn down Gale, Halsin and the Emperor.... I never tried to romance anyone just reacted with answers I would take just to be nice....
That's probably almost everyone who played before the patch that fixed it. I believe you got the accidental romance just by giving him magic items and taking Elminster to him (I remember getting it in my first playthrough where I never spoke to him outside of his quest)
The player class statistics always seem off to me. How are they counting multi-class? Is it based on which is your 1st class only, or do they count all? Is it based on which is majority? It would explain why Sorcerer is so high with all the starting for cons proficiency for only one level (a 1 sorcerer / 11 wizard counts as sorcerer?). Also I think Cleric and Wizard are so low since many people just use Gale and Shadowheart as Wizard and Cleric instead.
@JasonBridgman-JAB pretty sure it's just based on the starting classes and not multiclassing or respecs. Popularity numbers would be too hard to judge if they included those because almost every player has multiclassed at least once for a level or 2, so how would you determine which class players like more if you did that. Classes like Bard and Rogue would shoot through the roof because so many multiclass builds use their subclasses, like ranger builds that use college of swords or thief for extra bonus actions.
Both Scratch and the Owlbear cub have been petting more times than the Elder Brain destroyed. LOL. Also, I'm one of those stats for completed Honor Mode! Tons of fun, I probably spent more time planning out each fight than actually fighting. The single most dangerous fight though was actually the Gith at the bridge in Act 1.
Especially since it requires you to take the obviously awkward dialogue option. Let's be honest, did anyone think their character would figure he/she was supposed to kiss a Mindflayer's 'mouth'?
I always like to play a human in a magical world, because I can relate to a human and I am a "basic" character so all the fantastical stuff feels way more fantastic, if that makes sense
i agree even though half-orc better as an paladin, i cant make myself so ugly to just metagame...though it sucks that larian took extrafeat from human and gave us shitty extra carryweight, thats more like half-orc feat...
I get your feeling about this. For me, Elves have insanely long life spans, which means "I" could experience this magical world way longer. So I rather go with that
@@macross3730 There's a half-elf/orc subrace mod that basically fixed that issue, it's grand to get that Savage Attack extra hit die while still lookin' good.
Thanks for posting about this! I saw this on Larian's IG and found it really interesting. The one about Lae'zel is the one that really blew my mind. That there were hundreds of thousands of some interactions, millions of others, and only 34 of this one particular result. That just shows how deep this game really is that amongst millions of possibilities only 34 have found this one. Wild!
Or maybe because the githyankis are just not cute enough for selection. I've come across a mod with beautiful human face and body for a cross fairy and dragonborn with a tail in the past_which Laezel should be. But the gith race is just too ugly they might as well be just aliens, or just straight up little primates/monkeys
Can't wait to finally romance her for the very first time. Will be the very first time I actually recruit her. I started my evil playthrough but I think I may wait until patch 7 releases next month in order to continue it.
Baldur's Gate III is the first videogame I've played since the original xbox. The original BGs were my fave games of all-time back in the day. My nephews said I had to play it and showed up on my doorstep with their old gaming PC. It took me 3 1/2 months (125 hrs) to defeat the Brain. Surprised I caught on so easily. I thought the gaming world would've passed me by. 😂
no clue you could make the cat hairless. Also, if you keep the ball from camp, you can summon scratch to have as a companion while you are out exploring. He makes finding diggable mounds available for some extra treasure on the maps.
Tbf, that feature of Scratch is completely irrelevant if you have it show you passive checks (which by default it does). Every time one of those survival checks comes up, you can just whip out the shovel and dig it up anyway even if you fail the check.
Scratch is actually kinda useful for some combat scenarios too. He has the ability to "help" other companions which can come in really handy when you're in a tricky situation. Definitely make sure to hide Scratch so that he doesn't get hurt though since his HP is really low
@@Jxrfv456y if he gets hurt you just resummon him after next short rest. If anything, surviving extra hit because Shovel, Scratch, or Gale's familiar absorb it is a boon.
@@KasumiRINA I know he doesn't permanently die but his HP is so low that he easily goes out in one hit which is useless when I'm trying to keep him alive for the later stages of the battle when a companion is down. An elemental summon is usually better for drawing and surviving a decent amount of hits. Also I don't want to use Scratch as the decoy/bait, that feels too mean
Yup I did barrel mancy too. Load all your characters up with as much barrels as they can carry then head to that last fight and have one character that can carry the most run into the middle where the dragon is and drop everything then transfer more stuff to him from the other character and drop it then use disengage spread it out around the area so all the tough enemies are getting hit misty step out of there and drop a big fire spell or arcane tower attack and BOOM, everything dies. Then you just have to deal with a few mind flayers while opening a path to the brain. Brain itself is pretty easy without using barrels.
Dude admits to Enthralling Duke Stelmane which is the reason for her seizure/stroke due to The Emperor disappearing. Thralls start to suffer problems leading to death if their squid daddy leaves. He threatens to do such to us if we do not obey him.
@@RazielTheUnborn yeah it also makes sense that she was enthralled as wyll explains that both he and his father felt like talking to duke stelmane was like talking to someone not there
I've just seen her kisses due to the kisses mod and they're surprisingly sweet. I'm too soft to do non-resist Durge or just evil playthroughs, but always recruit her later. Love her insight, wisdom, anger and yet surprising softness. Also she's fun to do battles with. So I understand all the smooches.
I’m think it’s because at level one they look weak, and summoning only comes later, so most people that would pick Druid would probably go with wizard (yeah ik it’s ironic)
Well, I think the reason for this is the same reason wizard and cleric are low. You get access to not just one, but TWO druid companions in the game. They're a WIS class and don't front well, especially if you want to be silly and walk around wild shaped all the time since you have to drop it to actually talk to people. It was my personal first character. I'm not much of a gamer and went in with plenty of Dnd knowledge but knew very little about the gameplay. Took roughly 10 hours of rage inducing learning curves for me to finally figure out the mechanics and the thing that kept me playing through the frustration was the fact that my silly little wild shape bear could sit in chairs and climb ladders. But now that I know the game, i wouldn't pick druid as my own class either, I'd re-spec someone or just wait until getting the others. The game is infinitely easier to play with a CHA party front, and the re-spec mechanic allows you to play all the classes you like anyway. I just picked Wizard to be a necromancer and I am STRUGGLING on dialogue checks.
Nothing weird about Pala and Sorc being top class picks. They're charisma scaling classes, which is the most natural choice for party's leader. You can delegate combat prowess to companions, reset their classes and treat CHA as dump stat, but in many cases in dialogues you will not be allowed to make final choice as an "extra", so being able to win dialogue rolls as MC while still capable of handing out asswhoopings gives Palas and Sorcs advantage in character creation with first time players.
Bard is technically better than both (swords bard is BROKEN, and is a better shooter than ranger too) but yeah, I played BG1 & 2 as Pally, main in IWD was Paladin, NWN had Pal/Champion of Thorm nad Pal/Sorc second run, with Deekin kobold bard as henchman, NWN2 Favoured Soul (Divine version of Sorcerer), and later Bioware games kind of default to Jedis and Shepard being Paladins... IN SPACE. Only game without Paladin-ish character is Dragon Age 2 and Inquisition. DAO has Arcane Warrior. A tanky, charismatic fighter/mage hybrid with heals is THE default hero character in games where you need utility and there's a lot of dialogue.
From a lot of videos I've seen, it seems a lot of folks pick Astarion or Shadowheart for solo runs. Astarion gets his +1 for biting and Shadowheart can breeze thru Act 2 without needing the moonlantern. I don't know how common those two examples are, but that may influence the origin character stats.
It's so fast getting to lantern tho? I started from Grymforge and just ran into Drider and told him to give it to me for Absolute and giggles... I DID use Lathander weapon and cast light/flame in hand thingy on characters before that tho.
@@KasumiRINA Yeah...I don't quite get it either. I guess if you are solo you may not have the power to defeat as many baddies in act 2, so people want to level up more via exploring then go back and fight drider man? Or just wait and grab the lantern from moonrise? I've never tried solo so I don't really know if it's worth it or necessary. The Blood of Lathander is so perfect for act 2!
For Humans, it's probably Paladin, Fighter and ... idk, Sorcerer ? Half-Orcs I guess it's Barbarian, Paladin and something else. For Githyankis ... I hate them, so I don't care 🗿
I think part of it is because of how Wildshaping works, it takes a lot of fun out of speccing out your character. Lots of really useful abilities you get from multiclassing don't work while you're wildshaped (even when they logically should) like the Light Cleric's Warding Flare, or they're clunky. Like say you want to multiclass into Druid/Barbarian. You can only rage in combat, so if you're a Moon Druid you normally can't rage and wildshape on the same turn. You can't wildshape ahead of time because then you don't even have the option to Rage once combat starts. If you're any other kind of druid, then you can do it in one turn, but unless you're hasted you have no actions left to do anything with. Fighters' Action Surge? Can't be used while wildshaped. Rogue's cunning actions? Nope. DIVINE SMITE? No. So on and so forth. Going further, almost all equipment effects don't work when you're wildshaped. Lots of feats don't work or fully apply when you're wildshaped either, so it's just kind of frustrating and saps the fun out of using the class' main gimmick. Take Great Weapon Master for example, a Water Myrmidon can use the extra damage feature, but the bonus action attack won't work for no real reason besides it being too hard for them to code I guess. And while Druids do get access to good spells, they're not as good at being spellcasters as other dedicated spellcaster classes. Their best abilities come really late into their level progression, so they're not good for small dips since they don't offer much at low levels that you can't get from other classes. Combine that with them being a Wisdom class, so you're not going to have high Charisma for all those dialogue checks.
@AirLancer i mean spore druids can in fact "wild shape"(use their special bonus health thingy that uses wild shape charges) pre fight and then rage in the fight and it even synergyzes pretty nicely if you got the resistance rage to make the bonus health last longer
@@Corundrom Well, I was specifically talking about actual wild shaping. Symbiotic Entity is more flexible, but wild shaping has so many caveats while being the Druids' main gimmick that separates it from other classes. In any case to me Symbiotic Entity still isn't great, the temp HP scales off of druid level so you still have to invest more levels into Druid for it, and Necrotic damage is one of the most commonly resisted damage types in the game. The best thing about Druids is just the sheer amount of summons they can have.
Did Dark Urge. Got Minthara, romance scene in Act 1. Got her max companionship. Killed all the bhaalspawn. The butler said I'd picked the right choice of 'the drow'. Then when I seized the crown, she was the only one not under the influence of the ilithid. The smile she had for me was peak!
@@testchannelnamechange *Commander Zhalk dies* Mind Flayer: "You are no longer needed." Bro there are TWO CAMBIONS RIGHT THERE, what are you talking about?!
Being a regular old human, in a world filled with fantastical races, monsters and realms, is (imo) the ultimate experience. All the other magical stuff has a clear advantage, and yet through pure determination and bravery/stupidity, humanity persist and somehow thrives, how is that not appealing?
My full playthrough character was a Half-Orc Ranger Knight / Champion Fighter. Went a Crit build and it was a ton of fun, sad to see so few people playing Half-Orc!
I was trying to romance shadowheart the whole game and then didn’t realize till act 3 that I didn’t meet all the parameters. I assumed it wouldn’t kick off until after the Gauntlet of Shar companion quest.
I think the fewer people spending the night with Shadowheart in the act one celebration can be explained by having that night with her before the celebration, since you can sleep with her before that if her approval of you is high enough, but then she won't spend the celebration night with you.
The number is lower because the pool of people is much larger. Way more people have experienced Act 1 romance versus the people who have experienced an Act 3 romance.
@@YearOneThorn still, in act 1 you have EITHER Sharty or Karlach or sleep alone (options game gave me were about touching myself when thinking about either Gale or Wyll), but in act 3 there's like 9 party members you can romance. So having LESS out of 2 (or alone) vs having out of 9 is interesting.
I think Durge would be chosen much more often if we didn't get shorted by not having him available as a companion. I've seen a lot of people avoid him because they 'just can't be evil'. If his cannon version had been a companion option, i feel like most of those players would have picked him as their first origin run, since they'd have his story to explore (already knowing they can choose good if they want) and they'd still get to customize their character
@@saribeepo.o5111 tbh people still took him mainly anyways. It was one of the most popular choices. Yet the character itself is not a companion origin making him appear (if wasn't picked previously) as a dead corpse before act 3 or something.
I think it's more that Gale's appearance screams Fighter if you know nothing about the game, and as the game had time to sit and more people got into it with more info going in, they had more of an idea who the characters actually were
I did my first successful Honor mode run as Astarion origin. You do not get a lot of bonus content, just a couple of cutscenes and bonus dialogue for when you reveal your vampirism I did manage to find out two interesting Astarion facts: 1. If you go through Act 2 without your companions finding out you are a vampire... they will automatically know at the start of Act 3. Disappointing. 2. If you choose to Ascend as a Paladin Astarion, you will NOT fall. I found this hilarious since it's pretty much the most evil thing you can do (and you fall if you allow a companion Astarion to Ascend)
What I wonder is how much people choose something because of roleplay vs optimal. For example: I will choose Wood Elf because of roleplay vs because of increased move speed (or human because of Shield Proficiency). Or I will play as a good guy because of roleplay vs I will get this and this items. For Astarion as main character I think that reason is that you want a good rogue in your party and one way is to play as Astarion as preventive measure to avoid his disapproval.
I would rather play as a good rogue myself in this case? I think Astarion simps are just that, people who like the character. Best class powergaming-wise is BARD, not Paladin, but most people don't know that and Pallies are simpler and are JUST complex enough to get dialogue stuff and a few cool skills compared to fighters. My run is Wood Half-Elf Sorcadin and reasons for race are both shallow: half-elves had the only preset face I liked, and Wood ones, yes, got great passives and I wanted a tan hero. Half of your party are High Elves so it was a good choice for variety... Class, I almost always play Paladins but added Sorc levels when I found Necronomicon and wanted to get Shovel permanently. So had Gale write down the spell, cast it, and adopt it as a spell-shite. xD
I would guess it's because Astarion's story got them invested when they played tav/durge. If Durge was available as a companion, Astarion would have been the first non-custom PC i tried.
Just finished my first play through. With my brothers. The three of us had a lot of fun. I kept scratch with us the whole time and he often delivered, from occasionally helping our downed bard to releasing Dame Aylin during the fight with Ketherik to last night, drinking a potion of giant strength and facing off against the dragon alongside our Owlbear and Strange Ox.
It has many updates (and mods) since. I couldn't play it on release (GTX 1060 that survived pandemic with caveat of turning off PC on graphically heavy games) but now it's smooth sailing with easy to get ALL companions on a good run.
the cool thing about bg3 writing and the effects choices have on the world is the emperor is just a character, through dialog choices we decide if the emperor is "good" or not. Even with his hideout, and all possible dialogs if you follow along and trust him he is helpful.
The Emperor is a prick. He literally threatens to enslave you if you choose the right dialogue when he's coming on to you. He may not be objectively evil but he's extremely selfish, which justifies me betraying him every playthrough.
He's the embodiment of the old Neutral Evil alignment. Everything he says or does is for himself, ultimately, and bereft of any sort of code of conduct or morality.
The game is also riddled with hints about his deceptive nature. Tav is a tool, a means to an end. The Emperor is probably just a bit more fond of this particular tool compared to others, but purely from a selfish point of view.
By far the best way to play BG3 is by creating 4 instances of the game to multiplay with yourself and using the unlimited companions mod. You get to role play as 4 characters, have 4 different romances and by the end it really feels like you've built a small army.
I basically was Lae'zel's Simp.. she said not to trusting him.. so i do as im told... i let Orpheus live, and played a playthrough with just me and her playing as a Githyanki, i also added an additional hireling of the same race. I killed the brain with the buddies... and after i became what i hunt.. Lae'zel accepted me as her own, we flew away into the sunset making out on top of the red dragon... 😂
13:13 I think most people, when they think of a Dwarf, they think of a short, long bearded, round belly, thick armed angry man with a gruffy voice. But the bodybuilder physique, with the lack of a majestic beard and a deem gruffy voice, made people steer away from dwarves.. At least that's my reasoning.
8:52 kinda missing the point, that's one of the answer you get from Astarion if you try to spend the night with him (without the approval to back it up) :)
For me it's because of D&D 5E rules that removes the racial stats. It just takes again the uniqueness of the race. Why pick a dwarf or an halfling when an orc can do better. They should just remove racial passives atr that point, it would be more fair.
Astarion is popular because his bite causes the happy condition, which gives +1 to ability checks. Making him one of the favourites for a lot min/max builds
@@tehlewlz clearly you haven't seen the Mizora romance scene if you don't know that she has you choose which hell you would like to have demonic sex in
Human's extra carry capacity might be a factor. Also both humans and half-elves get light armor + shield proficiencies to help them survive as sorcerers. Some people already pointed out sorcerer over wizard for dialogue checks. But there is also the fact that sorcs get metamagic (when I didn't play as a sorc myself I would respec gale into one). And some of the PnP advantages of Wizard don't really carry over as well to bg3.
My friend was romancing Karlach and we were sad that she was going to die or live in Avernus but we figured out that if you let Karlach become the Mind Flayer then she lives on and you get a great cutscene with her after credits !! 10/10 recommend if you are romancing Karlach
There is also a happier ending for her, if you dont turn her to a mind flayer, romance her and Wyll choose to be "another" Blade. Dont gonna spoil it, but it is imo far more happier for her.
@@Kredit_Klaus thats why i said Avernus :) I mean going that route might be happier for her but not for my friend which wanted to keep her for himself :) It worked out in the end
@@Heredott The big issue with Mind Flayer Karlach is that it's dubious whether Mind Flayers are actually people still or just essentially computers made of meat. Intelligent and feeling computers sure, but it's implied there's no true "person" in there given that they explicitly don't have souls and the soul is very strongly implied to be "the person." I dunno if ultimately Mind Flayers are the same person or just "A meat-computer with the mental imprint of a person but not the actual person itself" but I care way too much about Karlach to even consider risking it. I'll pack my bags and move to Avernus with her instead any day of the week.
@@officiallyjan8596 Maybe fullborn mindflayers are but turned mindflayers are something else. Like the Emperor they can have individual thoughts or sensations . :)
@@officiallyjan8596 Even if it's not some kind of "computer", it's still not Karlach. It's a mindflayer with her memories- it literally ate her brain, she dead
You don’t need to play evil to get Minthara. If you non-lethal her fight in the temple, you can get her later in Ketheric’s lair. They bring her in as a prisoner and you can free her.
9:00 There was a problem for a long time where you could accidentally romance certain companions and get locked out of other romance options. This was especially noticible with Gale wanting to show you some "magic" and players (me) not understanding that he doesn't *actually* mean spells. Even if you rejected the advances, it still locked you out of other romance options.
I didn't WANT to sleep alone, but everyone who said they'd come visit me that night ended up not visiting. Not in one playthrough, no, all of them (except Durge). While it might be a bug, I'd bet that is why the number is so high.
I think in that ending all the tadpoles instantly transform so while the nether brain is destroyed there are now a bunch of roaming illithid. Did it in my first playthrough to see the outcome and the narrator said something about that and how there could have been a better way.
I think Gale choosing to sacrifice himself at the end can be fitting ending. My first play through he tried to convince me to sacrifice himself at moonrise. I refused and talked him out of it. Sometimes he genuinely brings it up out of concern that at least no one becomes a mind flyer this way. I see it as, every day Gale lived after that point is a gift.
Not enough people talk about Us, the friendly not-so Intellect devourer. When I first talked to him I knew I wanted to help him because of how afraid & scared he sounded, "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" so I had to & I was even happier to know that I could help him in act 2 & he'd be by my side for the rest of the game, I especially love the way he talks because of how unique it is.
yea true, we really didnt betray him, idk why they chose to word it like that 💀 like.. you guys created an evil and deceptive character who was never to be trusted… idk what you want from me 😂 play into his trap??? why??? 😂
I think the kissing/romancing Minthara being dead last makes perfect sense because many people never got her because very few people destroy the grove. It was only recently you could get her on a good playthrough and even then most people will already be pursuing romances with other characters by the time they get her. Im currently missing 3 achievements to have all of them done, and one of them is having dinner with Karlach. So thats my goal my next playthrough. I think reason Asterion is #1 for origin starts is people were jumping at the idea of playing a vampire.
It makes sense Cleric would be the least picked class for Tav when you consider that: 1. Most people keep Shadowheart in the party 2. Cleric requires more spread in stats than other classes and there's nothing left for Charisma which is very important for the party face
I kinda love the morality of the Emperor, he is a true neutral character. He just wants to survive and will do anything to achieve that goal leading him doing a lot of good and evil things. Unfortunately for him I wanted to save Orpheus, was sad about Ansur, and there wasn't a way to save him and Orpheus like trap him until the nether brain was defeated.
I think the biggest reason why Cleric is the least picked class is because most people keep Shadowheart in the party and don't want to overlap with her.
What about a level 1 dip in Cleric for Armor and Weapon Proficiencies or even the Knowledge Cleric for Expertise in Relgion and Arcana?
i tend to agree with this...plua a cleric ideally needs con and some dex and even a little str which means you're never going to be the face (which is the other huge factor...I think many people want their char to be the face hence the extra popularity of paladin and sorc.
@@StoneDigitalArtCanadayeah, every time I’ve played I’ve chosen a charisma focused class (bard, sorcerer, and warlock)
@FriendlyArchpriest true but I dont think the stat is taking into account multiclassing cuz otherwise itd be all over the place with almost everyone dipping into at least one other class for a level or 2
Another reason is the healing spells don’t keep up with the DPS. Better to have more action economies dishing out damage and ending the fight sooner.
Sorcerer and Paladin are so popular for Tav's because they're Charisma based Classes, perfect for a party face
This. Most people are going to make their character a party face unless ur in a coop campaign. And even then, it's only because someone else is already doing it. Their tav is essentially the main character, so having a class you can have high charisma in to actually talk to people makes sense. Especially since the memes are so popular of people doing crazy shenanigans, just with dialogue options. People are naturally gonna try to replicate those.
Best non-Charisma party face class is Barbarian.
CHANGE MY MIND
The best party face is level 1 Rogue, 16 dex, 16 cha, charlatan, with proficiency in almost every social skill, and expertise in perception and deception. Then multiclass into any cha class to get stronk.
I went Wizard and had some success with detect thoughts, however this seems to have fallen off in act 2. The real problem is I am going into a CHA skill check conversation, I switch to a CHA character, and it switches over to the TAV. Its frustrating because this doesn't happen consistently.
@@chuckchan4127Barb and Monk frfr
Having endings that only 34 people have seen personally is exactly what I want from my RPGs.
I have yet to play any origin character, Now Lae'zel will be the first one I play.
@@Sletchmanit could've been 35 if I didn't quit that save LMFAO
For Mass Effect, a rare thing I did that was satisfying: let Wrex die or not meet him in 1. In 2, don't save Maelon's data... this makes Eve die in 3 (nothing you do in ME3 but your decisions on Mordin's loyalty mission in 2), and IF BOTH Wrex and Eve are nowhere to be found and Wreav is krogan leader and kept unchecked, Mordin Solus agrees to sabotage the cure, so you don't have to kill him, he doesn't make a sacrifice, and lives. There are special messages related to that and I don't think many people got those. Really cool for second or third run when you want to see interactions with Wreav anyway.
This is kinda exactly what i dont want from a videogame.
@@jonytequileiro exactly bro coulda been one more if I didn't save scum 💀
The idea behind the Halfling Bard is that the only way your Bard is going to fail a dialogue choice (Charisma check) is if you roll a Natural 1. Halfling's reroll their Natural 1's. Therefore my Honour Mode Halfling Bard only had a 1/400 chance of failing their checks instead of 1/20. Long story short, I never failed a single check in my Honour mode run.
🎉
Yes sir, this was my first honor mode run as well. It also seems thematic.
@jaysonburke6839 I name mine Johnny Applebottom for that extra something something
@@brgessner did your character have jeans and boots with the fur?
@@thewonderfullymadejaraid7015 "And everybody was looking at her"...after the terrible ale poisoning event at the goblin party.
"Betrayed" the emporer is a strong word, he CHOSE to join the other side rather than fight with us, THATS betrayal
Betrayed is a strong word overall, since he's a gas-lighting sack of crap (literally any challenging question to him is met with insults and playing the victim, and every set back is somehow your fault) who has betrayed everyone he has ever worked with or who has cared for him. The only reason he doesn't this time is because your Tav is either stupid enough or wilfully ignorant enough to drink the kool-aid and do everything he wants. The perfect patsy.
you can stab him in the back literally
yeh, I was like "look, we should team up with Orpheus, come on dude" and then he went and jumped ship
Cap, from his point of view you did the unspeakable thing he told you not to numerous times.
@@stitchowi so his choice was:
1) fall back under the brain control
2) try to fight with us against the brain and fall back under its control
He choses the first one. Like what??
I was skeptic but overall positive about him till he tried to "romance" me up. Then I was like no, but I get it, you were single for long so its all right, I won't hold it against you.
And then he takes the most idiotic route at the end. The issue with him absorbing Orpheus isn't that he would give a tentacle guy super powers that can make him insanely strong. The issue is that the apparently only thing in the entire universe which holds the brains and tentacles back is Orpheus.
So, killing him is, as far as I'm concerned a long term mistake. He is super valuable alive and the overall peace in the universe is on his shoulders. Which is also why I convinced him to stay alive as a tentacle guy at the end.
Sure, it sucks but I'm not going to become a tentacle guy. Yet, I can tell that killing that dude would be a bad bad move.
My God, the numbers speak for themselves. The secret to beating Honour Mode was hidden in plain sight all along. We have to try to pet His Majesty for a guaranteed successful run!
Invincible lol... invincible is op...also abuse TB monk...
@@kiro253 Yeah monk is nuts with tavern brawler, doesnt matter how tough the enemy is you can hit them and likely knock them down. Duel class 3 levels in thief for another reaction to use even more attacks.
the stat I'd like to see is how many times Barcus was launched into space
I know of at least two occasions where i used the wrong lever xD
@@Khedaar I have that 'Oops' on one of my runs as well.
@@KhedaarI mean it was 50/50 and the first time I picked the wrong 50.
@@GodOfPlague if you hover your mouse on the lever you know what it does 😅
@@MB9613 I found that out the second time lol
The Emperor throws the biggest tantrum at the pivotal moment. "You won't listen to me and do as I say and still want to release Orpheus? Fine, I'm going to join the bad guys."
Strangest heel turn
I believe it’s because the Emperor prioritizes freedom, survival, and power all in that order. He needs to be free of the Netherbrain, but if Orpheus is freed he will most certainly be killed for everything he’s done up to this point. So he has to turn to survival. I think he could’ve expressed it a bit better.
If he said “By freeing him you’ve ordered my execution. I do NOT take that lightly. I will join with the Netherbrain and spare myself that execution. How disappointing,” it could’ve made his intentions more clear.
Realistically, the artifact and Orpheus’ power are the only things keeping the Emperor autonomous. If Orpheus forces him to leave, he will join the Netherbrain automatically. And if Orpheus kills him, everything he’s worked for will be for nothing and he will die. It’s a lose lose for him.
The Emperor is such an incel, lol
@@Rexis102 Yeah, but then they turn around and go "alright now we totally need one of us to become a Mindflayer. Too bad we didn't conveniently have someone available that was already one, oh well."
@@AirLancer Orpheus would never allow The Emperor to have *that* important of a role in his plan. Orpheus has a (valid) personal vendetta against The Emperor. TE has also proven he’s manipulative. We have not. Orpheus questions and tests us before making a full judgement call. He has his suspicions and raises his doubts, but we can earn his trust.
I still think it’s written in a poor way, don’t get me wrong. But the Emperor had no good way out once we had the Orphic Hammer and intended to use it.
Fun fact, 90% of those that defeated the Netherbrain by 'blowing up Gale' are Honor Mode run winners.
I beat Netherbrain HM without blowing up Gale. Don't get me wrong, I tried, just wasn't persuasive enough 😂
Is that true?
Or a little joke?
Pretty happy to be in the 10% how have balls xD
@@aekritleborgne1065 well…
1. Most people on their first playthrough aren’t probably going to sacrifice anyone.
2. Most people playing Honor Mode are NOT on their first playthrough.
3. Whether you sacrificed Gale or not, you still had to navigate 50 to 70 hours of Honor Mode difficulty and combat to successfully get to the end.
Plus - you get the achievement whether you did the extra work or not against the Elder Brain…so, ‘hate the game, not the player’.
Absolutely. It was 4:00am and I wanted to finish. My previous run was cut short do to collision bug and I was salty. 🤣
Always choose the option to take off and nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
Ah yes, the "Man or Bear" statistics we were all waiting for.
Damn, out of millions of players, only 34 chose that spesific Lae'Zel bad ending.
Spoiler
I saw some people that are genuinely mad about it, but I think it’s quite cool. After hours spent into the game, some people are bound to get curious as to what else the game offers outside the usual “righteous” path. An ending only 34 people have seen, this just shows how incredible Larian is.
I would be curious to see a video on this
@@chienj9223 Facts!
That is the one that really blew my mind. That there were hundreds of thousands of some interactions, millions of others, and only 34 of this one particular result. That just shows how deep this game really is that amongst millions of possibilities only 34 have found this one. Wild!
I'd argue that if you're playing a Durge mage character, you kinda have to find a way to save Alfira. The robe she gives is really good
I got really angry the other day. I'm playing durge warlock so obviously I have to have the greatest robe in the game for the warlock. But at the same time I was going to romance minthara for the very first time since I've never recruited her. You cannot romance her without raiding the grove which results in alfira's death. That also means I don't get the armor of persistence or the boots or the dreadshot or any of the other good stuff. So what I decided to do was to use mods to summon in the tutorial chest and the barrel and pulled out everything that was related to their quest rewards and purchasable and just throw it in my camp storage and only use it when I would normally get access to it. I honestly feel that you lose out on so much of this game just from raiding the Grove in the very first act. It's honestly such a disappointment that you lose out on what feels like around 20% of this game just from a single choice in the very first act. Even after a year and a lot of updates to the evil playthrough aspects it seems like evil playthroughs will always get these short end of the stick every single time.
That was such a dick move on Larian's part. The default Durge is a sorceror with no armor or shield specialization, but then they intentionally made it impossible for Durge to get the best robe in the game without metagaming.
@@strangestecho5088 I disagree with you
@@riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiipIf you want to recruit Minthara without raiding the grove in the future, you can turn on and use a non-lethal attack to knock her out when you attack her in the goblin camp. This will still allow you to recruit her in her normal place in act 2. This was added in in one of the patches after launch and I just did it in my current playthrough, so it does work.
@@strangestecho5088 The fact that you go for that robe for min maxing is already metagaming so wtf are you whining about?
13:16 My bet is it's the movement speed. Any race that has lower movement speed gets played less. Hence Dwarf, Halfling and Gnome occupying the bottom 3.
Literally nothing is worse than being 0.0000005m away from being able to make a melee attack and then you have to used ranged at disadvantage. But just in general the most op thing you can do is be mobile, it gives you a tremendous advantage in fights. Such as kiting melee enemies with ranged attacks just to give an example.
convincing point there
I think it's moreso that with romance in the game, it kindof seems weird to romance regular length characters while you are like less than a meter tall or smth lol. I'm more surprised that dragonborn is so high but it's likely because the default durge starts as one.
I can feel that fact in my bones! I love a dwarf beast master, but at level 6 I had to bail after just one too many instances of failing to get into melee range at a crucial point in combat. And that’s with _Longstrider_ active.
I just don't like how they look.
I played a Dwarf melee Ranger. It's not so bad. Especially with the cap of momentum and longstrider, and later misty step. Very rarely am I just out of range.
only 34 people took the honour path...
HSHAR'LAK!
I see I'm not the only one who's started swearing in Gith.
@@dacksonflux I now unironically swear in gith when talking to my friends. Kainyank is my favorite curse by far.
Maybe 34 out of the 34 that played Lae'Zel and reached that point in game.
Mine was destroyed by the Gith Patrol Act 1 just because I wanted to roleplay and give the artefact to them. Then betrayed by Vlaakith when she said I hadn't kill the one inside despite doing that straight as a Roleplay Lae'Zel would do... Maybe i'll reach that kind of proposal, for now i'm just out of Rosemary Monastery.
@@makehappyfaces2542what does it mean? isn't it like "outsider"?
The Gale blow himself up stat is an early ending. You can blow Gale up in act 2 when the 3 baddies are together if you have Gale in Parfty. Resulting in ending the game before you finish act 2 and entire party is dead. You get end credits scene and even the achievement for finishing the game.
And the Emperor romance has an achievement attached to it. So in one of my playtroughs i quicksaved ran trough the romance options real quick, reloaded my safe as a shower to wash him off me after the walk of shame home and pretend it never happened.
" it is an Ending..of sorts.."
Hundreds of Mindflayers will appear suddenly across the Sword Coast as thier tadpoles, no longer controlled by the Absolute , will finish thier Ceromorphosis..
Technally it was the first ending I got. The final fight went South so I just detonated Gale as a resign button lol
There is an ending, in Act 3, where Gale blows up the brain, and it counts as a proper ending. I'm fairly sure that stat refers to that ending rather than the early "fake" ending you can get in Act 2 (since the stat is under "endings" which lists the other proper endings)
I want to see a "How many players accidentially romanced Gale" stat. Wasnt even trying, didnt even talk to him much. Boy was that a surprise.
I did try but refused to kiss him once the evil angry goddess ex he's still obsessed with cape up. Danced with Wyll instead. (My half-elf is failing at eating hot chip, charge her phone and be bisexual).
I shipped around every romance in my first playthrough (which I just ended some days ago since I have the game just for some weeks) and had to turn down Gale, Halsin and the Emperor.... I never tried to romance anyone just reacted with answers I would take just to be nice....
That's probably almost everyone who played before the patch that fixed it. I believe you got the accidental romance just by giving him magic items and taking Elminster to him (I remember getting it in my first playthrough where I never spoke to him outside of his quest)
The player class statistics always seem off to me. How are they counting multi-class? Is it based on which is your 1st class only, or do they count all? Is it based on which is majority? It would explain why Sorcerer is so high with all the starting for cons proficiency for only one level (a 1 sorcerer / 11 wizard counts as sorcerer?). Also I think Cleric and Wizard are so low since many people just use Gale and Shadowheart as Wizard and Cleric instead.
They pick your starting class from character creation
@JasonBridgman-JAB pretty sure it's just based on the starting classes and not multiclassing or respecs. Popularity numbers would be too hard to judge if they included those because almost every player has multiclassed at least once for a level or 2, so how would you determine which class players like more if you did that. Classes like Bard and Rogue would shoot through the roof because so many multiclass builds use their subclasses, like ranger builds that use college of swords or thief for extra bonus actions.
@@joetheschmoe1066 i Agree, i am someone that respecs like 20 times with withers lolol
@bru5142 i feel it I do the same ngl 😂
Human is popular, because it's simple but also it's the race you pick for a self-insert or more immersive (for lack of a better word) run.
“Human Fighter named Bob” supremacy.
I am Ukrainian so my self-insert is supposed to be elf or half-elf... That's how invaders call us anyway.
It's also the most customizable race. You can pull some broken shenanigans with variant humans.
@@KasumiRINA eh, they call us elves? Since when? All I hear is them calling us pigs, tbh.
I figured it would be for the build flexibility.
"To think I believed Godhood would be worth losing all of this..."
_My heart._
Both Scratch and the Owlbear cub have been petting more times than the Elder Brain destroyed. LOL.
Also, I'm one of those stats for completed Honor Mode! Tons of fun, I probably spent more time planning out each fight than actually fighting. The single most dangerous fight though was actually the Gith at the bridge in Act 1.
Makes sense. You kill the netherbrain only once. You pet Scratch and Owlbie everytime you go to camp, before AND after a long rest. ITS THE LAW
I'm currently on my honour run, skipped that part entirely. I lost that fight like 2 days in a row in my first run, I was too afraid
To chose dream guardian form, you have to follow a certain path of dialog and it's easy to miss that option.
Especially since it requires you to take the obviously awkward dialogue option. Let's be honest, did anyone think their character would figure he/she was supposed to kiss a Mindflayer's 'mouth'?
I always like to play a human in a magical world, because I can relate to a human and I am a "basic" character so all the fantastical stuff feels way more fantastic, if that makes sense
As a bear I have no idea what that means.
i agree even though half-orc better as an paladin, i cant make myself so ugly to just metagame...though it sucks that larian took extrafeat from human and gave us shitty extra carryweight, thats more like half-orc feat...
I get your feeling about this. For me, Elves have insanely long life spans, which means "I" could experience this magical world way longer. So I rather go with that
@@macross3730 There's a half-elf/orc subrace mod that basically fixed that issue, it's grand to get that Savage Attack extra hit die while still lookin' good.
It's called a "self insert"
Thanks for posting about this! I saw this on Larian's IG and found it really interesting. The one about Lae'zel is the one that really blew my mind. That there were hundreds of thousands of some interactions, millions of others, and only 34 of this one particular result. That just shows how deep this game really is that amongst millions of possibilities only 34 have found this one. Wild!
or maybe, just maybe, people didn't want to, you know DELETE THEMSELVES in a role play game
Or maybe because the githyankis are just not cute enough for selection.
I've come across a mod with beautiful human face and body for a cross fairy and dragonborn with a tail in the past_which Laezel should be.
But the gith race is just too ugly they might as well be just aliens, or just straight up little primates/monkeys
Knjj
Mommy Minthara supremacy
Can't wait to finally romance her for the very first time. Will be the very first time I actually recruit her. I started my evil playthrough but I think I may wait until patch 7 releases next month in order to continue it.
Baldur's Gate III is the first videogame I've played since the original xbox.
The original BGs were my fave games of all-time back in the day.
My nephews said I had to play it and showed up on my doorstep with their old gaming PC.
It took me 3 1/2 months (125 hrs) to defeat the Brain. Surprised I caught on so easily. I thought the gaming world would've passed me by. 😂
If you liked it, you should definitely play through Mass Effect Legendary Edition, it's made by same guys as original Baldur's Gate. And very good!
it took me about 2 weejs doing everything i could
no clue you could make the cat hairless. Also, if you keep the ball from camp, you can summon scratch to have as a companion while you are out exploring. He makes finding diggable mounds available for some extra treasure on the maps.
Tbf, that feature of Scratch is completely irrelevant if you have it show you passive checks (which by default it does). Every time one of those survival checks comes up, you can just whip out the shovel and dig it up anyway even if you fail the check.
Scratch is actually kinda useful for some combat scenarios too. He has the ability to "help" other companions which can come in really handy when you're in a tricky situation. Definitely make sure to hide Scratch so that he doesn't get hurt though since his HP is really low
@@Jxrfv456y if he gets hurt you just resummon him after next short rest. If anything, surviving extra hit because Shovel, Scratch, or Gale's familiar absorb it is a boon.
@@KasumiRINA I know he doesn't permanently die but his HP is so low that he easily goes out in one hit which is useless when I'm trying to keep him alive for the later stages of the battle when a companion is down. An elemental summon is usually better for drawing and surviving a decent amount of hits. Also I don't want to use Scratch as the decoy/bait, that feels too mean
having Gale explode on the Netherbrain is far more merciful than what I did: Barrelmancy
😂 glad I'm mot the only one. 3 runepowder barrels and 20 odd smoke powder ones made that fight a cake walk.
Yup I did barrel mancy too. Load all your characters up with as much barrels as they can carry then head to that last fight and have one character that can carry the most run into the middle where the dragon is and drop everything then transfer more stuff to him from the other character and drop it then use disengage spread it out around the area so all the tough enemies are getting hit misty step out of there and drop a big fire spell or arcane tower attack and BOOM, everything dies. Then you just have to deal with a few mind flayers while opening a path to the brain. Brain itself is pretty easy without using barrels.
I played Drow Bard for my first playthrough, it was tons of fun but I switched to Half-Orc Paladin named Shrek for my honour mode playthrough
Shrek is love, Shrek is life! ♥
After finding out the secret of the emperor in Wyrms Rock. There was no forgiving what he did. I wont ever trust him
by all means Emperor betrays us if we decide to free Orpheus, not the other way around.
the emperor literally says he tried his best to manipulate us
@@xsision5513right and my durge tav be like 'my fatger dobt do 'manipulation'
Dude admits to Enthralling Duke Stelmane which is the reason for her seizure/stroke due to The Emperor disappearing. Thralls start to suffer problems leading to death if their squid daddy leaves.
He threatens to do such to us if we do not obey him.
@@RazielTheUnborn yeah it also makes sense that she was enthralled as wyll explains that both he and his father felt like talking to duke stelmane was like talking to someone not there
@@RazielTheUnborn im not that far in the story yet so idk what u talk abt :^
I'm responsible for easily 100,000 of those Minty smooches 8:03
I've just seen her kisses due to the kisses mod and they're surprisingly sweet. I'm too soft to do non-resist Durge or just evil playthroughs, but always recruit her later. Love her insight, wisdom, anger and yet surprising softness. Also she's fun to do battles with. So I understand all the smooches.
Easily the other ones are mine!
I'm surprised druid players are so low. Druid is a huge amount of fun to play!
I’m think it’s because at level one they look weak, and summoning only comes later, so most people that would pick Druid would probably go with wizard (yeah ik it’s ironic)
No extra attack and other spellcasters have better spell variety
me too! my first playthrough was a druid.
the thing about druid for me is BG3 has such amazing and interesting gear, 95% of which doesn't work in wildshape forms 😿
Well, I think the reason for this is the same reason wizard and cleric are low. You get access to not just one, but TWO druid companions in the game. They're a WIS class and don't front well, especially if you want to be silly and walk around wild shaped all the time since you have to drop it to actually talk to people.
It was my personal first character. I'm not much of a gamer and went in with plenty of Dnd knowledge but knew very little about the gameplay. Took roughly 10 hours of rage inducing learning curves for me to finally figure out the mechanics and the thing that kept me playing through the frustration was the fact that my silly little wild shape bear could sit in chairs and climb ladders.
But now that I know the game, i wouldn't pick druid as my own class either, I'd re-spec someone or just wait until getting the others. The game is infinitely easier to play with a CHA party front, and the re-spec mechanic allows you to play all the classes you like anyway. I just picked Wizard to be a necromancer and I am STRUGGLING on dialogue checks.
Nothing weird about Pala and Sorc being top class picks. They're charisma scaling classes, which is the most natural choice for party's leader. You can delegate combat prowess to companions, reset their classes and treat CHA as dump stat, but in many cases in dialogues you will not be allowed to make final choice as an "extra", so being able to win dialogue rolls as MC while still capable of handing out asswhoopings gives Palas and Sorcs advantage in character creation with first time players.
Bard is technically better than both (swords bard is BROKEN, and is a better shooter than ranger too) but yeah, I played BG1 & 2 as Pally, main in IWD was Paladin, NWN had Pal/Champion of Thorm nad Pal/Sorc second run, with Deekin kobold bard as henchman, NWN2 Favoured Soul (Divine version of Sorcerer), and later Bioware games kind of default to Jedis and Shepard being Paladins... IN SPACE. Only game without Paladin-ish character is Dragon Age 2 and Inquisition. DAO has Arcane Warrior. A tanky, charismatic fighter/mage hybrid with heals is THE default hero character in games where you need utility and there's a lot of dialogue.
that 34 players thing is just such a huge flex and they know it 😭
From a lot of videos I've seen, it seems a lot of folks pick Astarion or Shadowheart for solo runs. Astarion gets his +1 for biting and Shadowheart can breeze thru Act 2 without needing the moonlantern. I don't know how common those two examples are, but that may influence the origin character stats.
It's so fast getting to lantern tho? I started from Grymforge and just ran into Drider and told him to give it to me for Absolute and giggles... I DID use Lathander weapon and cast light/flame in hand thingy on characters before that tho.
@@KasumiRINA Yeah...I don't quite get it either. I guess if you are solo you may not have the power to defeat as many baddies in act 2, so people want to level up more via exploring then go back and fight drider man? Or just wait and grab the lantern from moonrise? I've never tried solo so I don't really know if it's worth it or necessary. The Blood of Lathander is so perfect for act 2!
I think people chose asterion for the lure of playing as a vampire. Shadowheart because the romance stats show us how much everyone simps for her.
Hold on, the Info graphic for popular class choice for races is missing Humans and Half-Orcs.
And Gith
was looking for this post. Weird it's missing those 3
Yeah probably also mostly Paladins. After NWN I do make elf Paladin where possible tho.
For Humans, it's probably Paladin, Fighter and ... idk, Sorcerer ? Half-Orcs I guess it's Barbarian, Paladin and something else. For Githyankis ... I hate them, so I don't care 🗿
The disrespect for Druid is wild (pun intended). Imo the best class because you can build it so many fun ways
I think part of it is because of how Wildshaping works, it takes a lot of fun out of speccing out your character. Lots of really useful abilities you get from multiclassing don't work while you're wildshaped (even when they logically should) like the Light Cleric's Warding Flare, or they're clunky. Like say you want to multiclass into Druid/Barbarian. You can only rage in combat, so if you're a Moon Druid you normally can't rage and wildshape on the same turn. You can't wildshape ahead of time because then you don't even have the option to Rage once combat starts. If you're any other kind of druid, then you can do it in one turn, but unless you're hasted you have no actions left to do anything with. Fighters' Action Surge? Can't be used while wildshaped. Rogue's cunning actions? Nope. DIVINE SMITE? No. So on and so forth.
Going further, almost all equipment effects don't work when you're wildshaped. Lots of feats don't work or fully apply when you're wildshaped either, so it's just kind of frustrating and saps the fun out of using the class' main gimmick. Take Great Weapon Master for example, a Water Myrmidon can use the extra damage feature, but the bonus action attack won't work for no real reason besides it being too hard for them to code I guess.
And while Druids do get access to good spells, they're not as good at being spellcasters as other dedicated spellcaster classes. Their best abilities come really late into their level progression, so they're not good for small dips since they don't offer much at low levels that you can't get from other classes.
Combine that with them being a Wisdom class, so you're not going to have high Charisma for all those dialogue checks.
It was my 1st playthrough. And I'll probably play one again at some point. Especially since I was so clueless about the game my 1st run.
I always assumed it's because there are two Druid companions
@AirLancer i mean spore druids can in fact "wild shape"(use their special bonus health thingy that uses wild shape charges) pre fight and then rage in the fight and it even synergyzes pretty nicely if you got the resistance rage to make the bonus health last longer
@@Corundrom Well, I was specifically talking about actual wild shaping. Symbiotic Entity is more flexible, but wild shaping has so many caveats while being the Druids' main gimmick that separates it from other classes. In any case to me Symbiotic Entity still isn't great, the temp HP scales off of druid level so you still have to invest more levels into Druid for it, and Necrotic damage is one of the most commonly resisted damage types in the game.
The best thing about Druids is just the sheer amount of summons they can have.
I grew up in Eugene, Oregon in the 90s.. I know exactly what halsin smells like.
Speedrunning could contribute to how popular Origin Gale is, I believe it’s the optimal path for any% and probably requires a lot of resetting
Friendly dinosaurs? This is the first time I've ever heard them mentioned.
4:40 no info on the Gith race?
I feel honoured to be in the honour mode completionists. Even if i just barely scraped by with 2 alive characters at the end.
half-orcs get great passives, of course they are getting picked.
Plus orcs are badass. I'd rather be an orc than a hafling or something
Did Dark Urge. Got Minthara, romance scene in Act 1. Got her max companionship. Killed all the bhaalspawn. The butler said I'd picked the right choice of 'the drow'. Then when I seized the crown, she was the only one not under the influence of the ilithid. The smile she had for me was peak!
The Emperor is a good guy, as long as you go along with him
Sooo...basically an abuser?
Mind Flayers famously dispose of you once you are no longer of use to them
@@daviduarte1031”He is good guy, but I never said he was a *good guy* ”
@@testchannelnamechange *Commander Zhalk dies*
Mind Flayer: "You are no longer needed."
Bro there are TWO CAMBIONS RIGHT THERE, what are you talking about?!
@@daviduarte1031he helps you defeat the brain and then leaves you alone. Pretty solid ally.
10:12 I'm proud to say that in my very first playthrough I contributed to both the bear and the tentacle statistics 😌
I went against the emperor because... my girl Lazel
Being a regular old human, in a world filled with fantastical races, monsters and realms, is (imo) the ultimate experience. All the other magical stuff has a clear advantage, and yet through pure determination and bravery/stupidity, humanity persist and somehow thrives, how is that not appealing?
“How many people killed Wulbren?”
Not enough.
My full playthrough character was a Half-Orc Ranger Knight / Champion Fighter. Went a Crit build and it was a ton of fun, sad to see so few people playing Half-Orc!
half orc life cleric went full cleric
we don't betray the emperor, he's stubborn and refuses to go along with our plan to see if it will work
I was trying to romance shadowheart the whole game and then didn’t realize till act 3 that I didn’t meet all the parameters. I assumed it wouldn’t kick off until after the Gauntlet of Shar companion quest.
I think the fewer people spending the night with Shadowheart in the act one celebration can be explained by having that night with her before the celebration, since you can sleep with her before that if her approval of you is high enough, but then she won't spend the celebration night with you.
The number is lower because the pool of people is much larger. Way more people have experienced Act 1 romance versus the people who have experienced an Act 3 romance.
@@YearOneThorn☝🏻This exactly.
@@YearOneThorn still, in act 1 you have EITHER Sharty or Karlach or sleep alone (options game gave me were about touching myself when thinking about either Gale or Wyll), but in act 3 there's like 9 party members you can romance. So having LESS out of 2 (or alone) vs having out of 9 is interesting.
I feel that Durge origin character deserves more recognition as other preset origins. It's a very cool one!
I think Durge would be chosen much more often if we didn't get shorted by not having him available as a companion. I've seen a lot of people avoid him because they 'just can't be evil'. If his cannon version had been a companion option, i feel like most of those players would have picked him as their first origin run, since they'd have his story to explore (already knowing they can choose good if they want) and they'd still get to customize their character
@@saribeepo.o5111 tbh people still took him mainly anyways. It was one of the most popular choices. Yet the character itself is not a companion origin making him appear (if wasn't picked previously) as a dead corpse before act 3 or something.
Gale origin used to be number 1. I think astarrion has extra story though so a lot of people wanted to do it with their second or third playthrough
likely due to speedruns
ironically Astarion's Origin doesnt have much content, its mostly Tav-starion. Every other origin has more going on for them.
I think it's more that Gale's appearance screams Fighter if you know nothing about the game, and as the game had time to sit and more people got into it with more info going in, they had more of an idea who the characters actually were
I did my first successful Honor mode run as Astarion origin. You do not get a lot of bonus content, just a couple of cutscenes and bonus dialogue for when you reveal your vampirism
I did manage to find out two interesting Astarion facts: 1. If you go through Act 2 without your companions finding out you are a vampire... they will automatically know at the start of Act 3. Disappointing. 2. If you choose to Ascend as a Paladin Astarion, you will NOT fall. I found this hilarious since it's pretty much the most evil thing you can do (and you fall if you allow a companion Astarion to Ascend)
I played human, because I want to roleplay as a cool version of "me" in a fantasy world. Two fantasies in one!
What I wonder is how much people choose something because of roleplay vs optimal. For example: I will choose Wood Elf because of roleplay vs because of increased move speed (or human because of Shield Proficiency). Or I will play as a good guy because of roleplay vs I will get this and this items.
For Astarion as main character I think that reason is that you want a good rogue in your party and one way is to play as Astarion as preventive measure to avoid his disapproval.
I would rather play as a good rogue myself in this case? I think Astarion simps are just that, people who like the character. Best class powergaming-wise is BARD, not Paladin, but most people don't know that and Pallies are simpler and are JUST complex enough to get dialogue stuff and a few cool skills compared to fighters.
My run is Wood Half-Elf Sorcadin and reasons for race are both shallow: half-elves had the only preset face I liked, and Wood ones, yes, got great passives and I wanted a tan hero. Half of your party are High Elves so it was a good choice for variety... Class, I almost always play Paladins but added Sorc levels when I found Necronomicon and wanted to get Shovel permanently. So had Gale write down the spell, cast it, and adopt it as a spell-shite. xD
@@KasumiRINAITS FISTING TIIIIME
I would guess it's because Astarion's story got them invested when they played tav/durge. If Durge was available as a companion, Astarion would have been the first non-custom PC i tried.
Just finished my first play through. With my brothers. The three of us had a lot of fun. I kept scratch with us the whole time and he often delivered, from occasionally helping our downed bard to releasing Dame Aylin during the fight with Ketherik to last night, drinking a potion of giant strength and facing off against the dragon alongside our Owlbear and Strange Ox.
I’m kicking myself so hard for not getting the game on launch day, I just started 2 weeks ago
why? it's a singleplayer game, it's not like you missed the game being populated or something.
@revolversnake126 maybe for the simple fact of enjoying it sooner
I was kicking myself for not having a PC til it dropped for my console months later
i mean you get the benefit of enjoying all the updates that have come out since launch tho
@@revolversnake126 because for the last few months I haven’t been able to really get into a new game. Was kind of in a gaming funk
It has many updates (and mods) since. I couldn't play it on release (GTX 1060 that survived pandemic with caveat of turning off PC on graphically heavy games) but now it's smooth sailing with easy to get ALL companions on a good run.
the cool thing about bg3 writing and the effects choices have on the world is the emperor is just a character, through dialog choices we decide if the emperor is "good" or not. Even with his hideout, and all possible dialogs if you follow along and trust him he is helpful.
The Emperor is a prick.
He literally threatens to enslave you if you choose the right dialogue when he's coming on to you.
He may not be objectively evil but he's extremely selfish, which justifies me betraying him every playthrough.
He's the embodiment of the old Neutral Evil alignment. Everything he says or does is for himself, ultimately, and bereft of any sort of code of conduct or morality.
The game is also riddled with hints about his deceptive nature. Tav is a tool, a means to an end. The Emperor is probably just a bit more fond of this particular tool compared to others, but purely from a selfish point of view.
By far the best way to play BG3 is by creating 4 instances of the game to multiplay with yourself and using the unlimited companions mod. You get to role play as 4 characters, have 4 different romances and by the end it really feels like you've built a small army.
I'd have sided with Omeluum, no questions asked!
like 20 of those defeated honor mode playthroughs were mine, but 1 of the conquered Honour modes is mine as well!
I basically was Lae'zel's Simp.. she said not to trusting him.. so i do as im told... i let Orpheus live, and played a playthrough with just me and her playing as a Githyanki, i also added an additional hireling of the same race.
I killed the brain with the buddies... and after i became what i hunt.. Lae'zel accepted me as her own, we flew away into the sunset making out on top of the red dragon... 😂
13:13
I think most people, when they think of a Dwarf, they think of a short, long bearded, round belly, thick armed angry man with a gruffy voice.
But the bodybuilder physique, with the lack of a majestic beard and a deem gruffy voice, made people steer away from dwarves..
At least that's my reasoning.
Ay shoutout to my fellow paladin dwarves
8:52 kinda missing the point, that's one of the answer you get from Astarion if you try to spend the night with him (without the approval to back it up) :)
Dwarves, Gnomes, and Halflings are the least chosen races. Why do they get the short end of the stick?
Can’t believe all 3 got looked over by so many
I guess playing them fell short of expectations for many.
We aren't falling short of puns here, at least.
They're just dwarfed by the amount of people who want to undress an elf.
For me it's because of D&D 5E rules that removes the racial stats. It just takes again the uniqueness of the race. Why pick a dwarf or an halfling when an orc can do better.
They should just remove racial passives atr that point, it would be more fair.
Astarion is popular because his bite causes the happy condition, which gives +1 to ability checks. Making him one of the favourites for a lot min/max builds
how many players seen the Mizora romance scene? like this comment
and which was the hell most popularly chosen by those players to f*ck in?
@@Asalieri2 idk what you mean bro
@@tehlewlz clearly you haven't seen the Mizora romance scene if you don't know that she has you choose which hell you would like to have demonic sex in
2:58 - Me with Dragonborn Monk, Gnome Barbarian, and Halfling Warlock
I mean, to be fair, Astarion is basically the vampire version of Quagmire... lol
Fangsmire 🧛🏻♂️
My 1st play through is custom dwarf cleric. As soon as withers was in camp, I changed ShadowHeart to Ranger.
I choose Astarion too and made him a Sorcerer :D fits him much better than a Rouge
Great idea. Going to try that in a playthrough.
The moment he was interested in the Necromancy of Thay, I reclaimed him to wizard. The man has the ambition for it.
Why people choose to play Astarion over other Origins even if he is basically as Vanilla as Tav?
One word: Vampire.
He makes a good bard.
@@robinfrund5364 eeew bards
Human's extra carry capacity might be a factor. Also both humans and half-elves get light armor + shield proficiencies to help them survive as sorcerers.
Some people already pointed out sorcerer over wizard for dialogue checks. But there is also the fact that sorcs get metamagic (when I didn't play as a sorc myself I would respec gale into one). And some of the PnP advantages of Wizard don't really carry over as well to bg3.
My friend was romancing Karlach and we were sad that she was going to die or live in Avernus but we figured out that if you let Karlach become the Mind Flayer then she lives on and you get a great cutscene with her after credits !! 10/10 recommend if you are romancing Karlach
There is also a happier ending for her, if you dont turn her to a mind flayer, romance her and Wyll choose to be "another" Blade. Dont gonna spoil it, but it is imo far more happier for her.
@@Kredit_Klaus thats why i said Avernus :) I mean going that route might be happier for her but not for my friend which wanted to keep her for himself :) It worked out in the end
@@Heredott The big issue with Mind Flayer Karlach is that it's dubious whether Mind Flayers are actually people still or just essentially computers made of meat. Intelligent and feeling computers sure, but it's implied there's no true "person" in there given that they explicitly don't have souls and the soul is very strongly implied to be "the person."
I dunno if ultimately Mind Flayers are the same person or just "A meat-computer with the mental imprint of a person but not the actual person itself" but I care way too much about Karlach to even consider risking it. I'll pack my bags and move to Avernus with her instead any day of the week.
@@officiallyjan8596 Maybe fullborn mindflayers are but turned mindflayers are something else. Like the Emperor they can have individual thoughts or sensations . :)
@@officiallyjan8596 Even if it's not some kind of "computer", it's still not Karlach. It's a mindflayer with her memories- it literally ate her brain, she dead
You don’t need to play evil to get Minthara. If you non-lethal her fight in the temple, you can get her later in Ketheric’s lair. They bring her in as a prisoner and you can free her.
Is it gay if you’re a dude who sleeps with the emperor in dream guardian milf form?
Yes.
ABSOLUTEly
You're a BAMF.
yes but no but also yes
@@HookahOtaku i see what you did there
9:00 There was a problem for a long time where you could accidentally romance certain companions and get locked out of other romance options. This was especially noticible with Gale wanting to show you some "magic" and players (me) not understanding that he doesn't *actually* mean spells. Even if you rejected the advances, it still locked you out of other romance options.
8:09 Halsin doesn't have a human form. He's a wood elf.
I didn't WANT to sleep alone, but everyone who said they'd come visit me that night ended up not visiting. Not in one playthrough, no, all of them (except Durge). While it might be a bug, I'd bet that is why the number is so high.
Shocked that still only 141,660 completed Honor Mode
Shoot, I'm more shocked that I'm one of them! This might be the highlight of my gaming career. Love this game
I’m working on it, okay? Don’t rush me 😭
Overpowered builds, fight research, and terazul.
Same tbh. I have completed it a few times (and helped my friends complete it) I’m excited for the “harder HM” in the new patch
I haven't played BG3 since October of 2023...
my halfling monk is so much fun to play. just a little half man running around breaking fools up. hilarious
Gale blowing up is the best ending for everyone except Gale. No one has to become a mind flayer and Orpheus can be freed (yes there are ways)
I think in that ending all the tadpoles instantly transform so while the nether brain is destroyed there are now a bunch of roaming illithid. Did it in my first playthrough to see the outcome and the narrator said something about that and how there could have been a better way.
Not really, everyone tadpolled transform into mindflayers and the people from baldurs gate have to deal with it.
I think Gale choosing to sacrifice himself at the end can be fitting ending. My first play through he tried to convince me to sacrifice himself at moonrise. I refused and talked him out of it. Sometimes he genuinely brings it up out of concern that at least no one becomes a mind flyer this way. I see it as, every day Gale lived after that point is a gift.
You guys are talking about Gale blowing himself up at the end of act 2, he can do it at the end of act 3 as well and than you'll have a true ending
@@vazzeee oh true ty i didnt peep that ending, guess all ist good? except for Gale
Not enough people talk about Us, the friendly not-so Intellect devourer.
When I first talked to him I knew I wanted to help him because of how afraid & scared he sounded, "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" so I had to & I was even happier to know that I could help him in act 2 & he'd be by my side for the rest of the game, I especially love the way he talks because of how unique it is.
yea true, we really didnt betray him, idk why they chose to word it like that 💀 like.. you guys created an evil and deceptive character who was never to be trusted… idk what you want from me 😂 play into his trap??? why??? 😂
Karlach has a heart of gold
'30% chose the bear'.
...You don't suppose that meme is BECAUSE of Halsin.
human has a lot of versatility, lots of weapons they are proficient with, and you can be a hoarder
Dude I didn't even know you could convince Orpheus to become a mind flayer
I think the kissing/romancing Minthara being dead last makes perfect sense because many people never got her because very few people destroy the grove. It was only recently you could get her on a good playthrough and even then most people will already be pursuing romances with other characters by the time they get her. Im currently missing 3 achievements to have all of them done, and one of them is having dinner with Karlach. So thats my goal my next playthrough.
I think reason Asterion is #1 for origin starts is people were jumping at the idea of playing a vampire.
It makes sense Cleric would be the least picked class for Tav when you consider that:
1. Most people keep Shadowheart in the party
2. Cleric requires more spread in stats than other classes and there's nothing left for Charisma which is very important for the party face
Cat and honour mode confirmed coincidence. I've tried petting his Majesty but never even attempted honour mode XD
I kinda love the morality of the Emperor, he is a true neutral character. He just wants to survive and will do anything to achieve that goal leading him doing a lot of good and evil things. Unfortunately for him I wanted to save Orpheus, was sad about Ansur, and there wasn't a way to save him and Orpheus like trap him until the nether brain was defeated.
You forgot Half-Orcs
I'm one of the Honour mode completors, was also my first time ever beating the game. Something I'm quite proud of.
To be fair Elf and Half-elf are also pretty vanilla.
I love how Human and Fighter are both in 3rd place.
My first reaction to Scratch is 'I better be able to pet dat dog.'