The most ridiculous bit of fluff, to me, is 'water resistant to thirty meters.' I imagine that if a snorkel was advertised as such, but wasn't even bathtub safe, the FCC would have a look.
They said it's for great leaders as well as sailors, now whether those "sailors" are some "skippers" manœuvring their remote control mini boats over a 30cm deep pond we cannot know at this time (just like we cannot tell what time this intricate Ulysse Nardin tells)
I agree 100% AJ! funnier still is that ISO released a new standard to 'clarify' water resistance, and it still makes no sense. Why not just say something is water resistant to a depth, and you can do any activity at that depth?
I remember back at art college ...that it seemed there was an interesting additional aspect for any artist or designer to learn ....the ability to add a lot of poetic twaddle and drivel to either justify, confuse, confound, convince or delude the potential clients, supporters and customers...or to very occasionally give the viewer a true insight to their crazy minds! Now it's just called marketing!
7:14 - to be fair, a large part of photography is about lighting, composition and how one chooses to expose the photograph (high-key vs. low-key, etc.). Those are all subjective decisions a photographer makes. Post-processing is another factor. But yeah, Leica & co. do like to engage in wishy-washy fluff. Likely so their customers feel like artists rather than consumers engaging in an expensive hobby. It is similar to watch collectors calling themselves "horologists".
From the sugess website for their aventurine dial tourbillion : ‘You are the sharts from the sky. In order to pick me up, for me to stay The same dream comes to me every evening That is you can accompany me to grow old to white together.’ Wait… you are the what from the sky?!
13:45 Funny thing is 007 (as stated in the books) typically spent 10-11 months behind the desk as an analyst with most of his adventures taking place in small patches of time of anywhere from a fortnight to a month of field work at any time. :)
Have to admit, despite the marketing.. I "leic" the Leica! 😂 But the Ulysse Nardin........for sailors......30 m wr...splash proof, the waves better not get too big .
@@brianmsahin I should say though, quite of their watches are targeted towards yacht owners, and that's about the water resistance that's appropriate for that audience. I'll stick with their freaks though
There's a whole philosophical argument for how biased a photograph can be - What one leaves OUT of a picture can be quite important after all - just look at the history of propaganda. That said, there's also a bit of "wine tasting while huffing your own farts" that can show up as well :D
I actually like that as a bond film intro .... bond is considered too old and is reduced to a desk job ... or 00 training in a class room ... but then ....
Those are a couple of pretty nice looking watches. Of course, my cynical Nikonophile soul (which heartily embraces Japanese quartz :D ) expects that, like Leica's cameras, their watches are going to be priced more in line with stroking the egos of people who like displaying their ability to buy such overpriced trinkets out of petty cash than with anything a middle of the road watch fanatic would be able to lay on the jeweler's counter. :P The pushbutton crown had me believing that they had somehow managed to wedge a ccd and some memory in there to make it a functional camera. :D And the power reserve indicator rather reminds me of the "magic eye" tuning indicator tube on old McIntosh FM tuners.
Man! As much as I’m a fan of Leica and watch collector, that Leica watch is a real beauty! But USD 14,000? Wow that’s bloody more expensive than their M11 camera. Anyway consider it’s one of a collectible I would wait for a pre-owned with a little price downed.
I kinda love the Leica watch. So many watched appeal to archetypes- pilots, divers, explorers, etc, so it's nice to see someone from the film/camera world making an appropriate watch. Would be cool if it actually had a useful tool or two (like exposure conversion charts or something similar) akin to how a chronograph can actually measure time.
I’m not surprised it was hard for Tom to persuade Andrew that some of the language was over the top. Has he never listened to Andrew when he’s in is interminable philosophical monologue mode?
Believe it or not foreverness is a real word. I'd never heard it before so looked it up, learn something new every day, but when am I going to use that term? 😁👍✌
The video I want to see is a year from now, about the guy wanting to sell his Leica watch. As a photographer who has friends with Leica gear to sell, I can hear it now. "Make sure we can see the sticker on the plastic sleeve the watch came in, that sticker shows that this watch was made on the north side of the building, they are much more desirable that those made on the south side. And lets make sure the photos show that there aren't any scratches anywhere, since I never wore it."
about the leica marketing phrase "photograph is not a recording of a fact, its a recording of a feeling" while yes it sounds cheesy, as a photographer i feel like there is a little bit of thruth to that. for example i edit my photos colors according to the feel of the moment it was taken, often its not the most realistic or accurate way to do it, but still feel that, that is the way the represent the moment the best.
Honestly just entering the watch game…. That Leica looks pretty good Edit- damn that’s expensive. They probably would have been a hit at 50% that’s cost
All I want is plus or minus one second a year. My radio sync and my new GPS sync watches come close, but I want a Citizen 0100 movement for well under US$1000. Outside Japan as well as inside, too.
I have deciphered the myriad manifold mysteries of the Moonstruck... the necessary clue is that little UN logo with the anchor that Nardin engraved on the... uh... I guess that's the rotor for the automatic works? Yeah. That. There. It's the logo of the UN Cosmo Navy from Space Battleship Yamato. It's clearly intended to be an aid to spatial navigation when calculating warp jumps for the Yamato. Lt Shima the navigator probably wears one. :D
Feeling a bit gross. "Trail of love", "caressing [] hands", "moonstruck" pats on the bottom from Fernando Martinez. Need a shower. Hopefully, the handcrafted foreverness will wash off with soap and water. The UN is beautiful. To their credit, at least the UN press release used "sailors" and not...
Okay, I don't think saying that London signs doesn't have any fluff except for telling the time is really an accurate statement, with their f****** triple split chronograph
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Favourite wristwatch marketing line: 'Spaghetti Scameti was founded with a passionate spirit and a simple goal: to make quick, easy cash'.
Spaghetti Scameti could be replaced by any of the following:
MVMT
Fillippo Loreti
Hublot
My favourite brand :)
When your two favorite watch TH-camrs interact. Do a collab please
I’d buy one but I don’t think I’d pay as much as US$100 for it.
the motto is to cut the middle man🙀😂😂
The most ridiculous bit of fluff, to me, is 'water resistant to thirty meters.' I imagine that if a snorkel was advertised as such, but wasn't even bathtub safe, the FCC would have a look.
They said it's for great leaders as well as sailors, now whether those "sailors" are some "skippers" manœuvring their remote control mini boats over a 30cm deep pond we cannot know at this time (just like we cannot tell what time this intricate Ulysse Nardin tells)
30 meters means “if you get it wet you might ruin it.” Not what I’d have expected
Never trust Chine is a very old lesson
I agree 100% AJ! funnier still is that ISO released a new standard to 'clarify' water resistance, and it still makes no sense. Why not just say something is water resistant to a depth, and you can do any activity at that depth?
The only 30m water resistant watch i will swim with is a casio particularly the f-91w
I remember back at art college ...that it seemed there was an interesting additional aspect for any artist or designer to learn ....the ability to add a lot of poetic twaddle and drivel to either justify, confuse, confound, convince or delude the potential clients, supporters and customers...or to very occasionally give the viewer a true insight to their crazy minds!
Now it's just called marketing!
"The 'Bum End' of the heart...."
Romance is definitely dead, at least in the Watchfinder offices but hey, it's an unarguably accurate description.
The heart symbol was supposedly made after a woman’s butt.
@@VeriStrawberi Now that's romantic.
Cannot wait until Polaroid bring a watch out, with the tag line, for those more intimate times?
Push a button, a little tag comes out on the side of the watch that you get to shake for 30 seconds before it reveals the printed current time.
Yes will be beautiful Kodak moment 😍
That "trail of love" looks more like blood spatter to me.
love hurts, you know. don't make love to a kitchen knife.
7:14 - to be fair, a large part of photography is about lighting, composition and how one chooses to expose the photograph (high-key vs. low-key, etc.). Those are all subjective decisions a photographer makes. Post-processing is another factor. But yeah, Leica & co. do like to engage in wishy-washy fluff. Likely so their customers feel like artists rather than consumers engaging in an expensive hobby. It is similar to watch collectors calling themselves "horologists".
From the sugess website for their aventurine dial tourbillion : ‘You are the sharts from the sky. In order to pick me up, for me to stay The same dream comes to me every evening That is you can accompany me to grow old to white together.’ Wait… you are the what from the sky?!
Classic!
13:45 Funny thing is 007 (as stated in the books) typically spent 10-11 months behind the desk as an analyst with most of his adventures taking place in small patches of time of anywhere from a fortnight to a month of field work at any time. :)
Aren't those books great!
That Leica watch is pretty cool.
i love this show and we need more of this long form series👍
That power reserve on the Breguet “Valentines” watch looks like blood spatter 😆
Trail of love looks like the kitchen floor after you cut your finger.
Someone needs to hire a blood splatter analyst asap
My thought EXACTLY !
Have to admit, despite the marketing.. I "leic" the Leica! 😂 But the Ulysse Nardin........for sailors......30 m wr...splash proof, the waves better not get too big .
Well, it's 50m not that it makes much of a difference. You can do some snorkeling
@@charsquatch600 That's true enough, but even 50m doesn't inspire confidence. 🙂
@@brianmsahin I agree.
@@brianmsahin I should say though, quite of their watches are targeted towards yacht owners, and that's about the water resistance that's appropriate for that audience. I'll stick with their freaks though
Great video! Quick question, what’s the song at 6:06?
Gymnopedie no 1. By Erik Satie
(probably spent way too long figuring this out myself)
Thanks!
A trail of love, sprayed across the dial...... hahaha
There's a whole philosophical argument for how biased a photograph can be - What one leaves OUT of a picture can be quite important after all - just look at the history of propaganda. That said, there's also a bit of "wine tasting while huffing your own farts" that can show up as well :D
Waiting for the Ulysse Nardin “Hello sailor” edition
They make erotic watches 🤔.
@@underachievingwatchcollect1878 ... shore leave in Bangkok watch 😁.
I think the Ulysse Nardin watch is really cool looking but the sun gem definitely looks like a hard booger.
I really like that Leica. I really won't give them $14,000 for it.
"Turning seconds into moments" sounds like really cheap weed
hope their value will sink and we'll by it for more realistic price
I like the design cues…..domed crystal, black finish….but!
I had to look up the price too…. I had to ad a zero to the price I was expecting. Pass
I actually like that as a bond film intro .... bond is considered too old and is reduced to a desk job ... or 00 training in a class room ... but then ....
Love these conversations!!
Love the Leica I think is quite a well thought out watch. Very impressed with them in fact.
Those are a couple of pretty nice looking watches. Of course, my cynical Nikonophile soul (which heartily embraces Japanese quartz :D ) expects that, like Leica's cameras, their watches are going to be priced more in line with stroking the egos of people who like displaying their ability to buy such overpriced trinkets out of petty cash than with anything a middle of the road watch fanatic would be able to lay on the jeweler's counter. :P
The pushbutton crown had me believing that they had somehow managed to wedge a ccd and some memory in there to make it a functional camera. :D
And the power reserve indicator rather reminds me of the "magic eye" tuning indicator tube on old McIntosh FM tuners.
You have poor taste.
Great stuff keep it up
Thank you for calling out some of this utter nonsense. Hodinkee etc seem to prefer to take it and dial it up to 11.
Interesting video as always! Love the classical music played in the background
Man! As much as I’m a fan of Leica and watch collector, that Leica watch is a real beauty!
But USD 14,000? Wow that’s bloody more expensive than their M11 camera.
Anyway consider it’s one of a collectible I would wait for a pre-owned with a little price downed.
Loved this vid. Very funny and great to just see lovely watches. 😊
That was another great episode. I like this format a lot. Keep it up guys.
Maybe you two can get a podcast going i love the banter between you both
"You never actually own a Patek your merely look after it for the next generation" Made me vomit ! ... but i still saved hard and bought one!
I hated that too! It's just aswell i cant afford one lol.
@@kerrybayton2954It took me until my 65th Birthday kerry keep filling your jar!
@@stevesmith7997 all my respect sir... Determination...
@@kerrybayton2954 why not??
I kinda love the Leica watch. So many watched appeal to archetypes- pilots, divers, explorers, etc, so it's nice to see someone from the film/camera world making an appropriate watch. Would be cool if it actually had a useful tool or two (like exposure conversion charts or something similar) akin to how a chronograph can actually measure time.
Pilots, divers and explorers. But doesn't have something as basic as lume?
This is the earliest I've been for watching your videos i really like this format.
Another great Wednesday offering. I’m starting to really look forward to these moments in time! (Please forgive the fluff)
I’m not surprised it was hard for Tom to persuade Andrew that some of the language was over the top. Has he never listened to Andrew when he’s in is interminable philosophical monologue mode?
Brilliant as always, thank you Gentlemen 👍🏻👍🏻
y'all are sofa king funny... I might go so far as to say: leaning into Monty Python style banter. Keep up the good wordage.
Regardless of the fluff all 3 are dope so refreshing to see new designs well done not just the same old sub/sport designs or fluted bezel.
I have to comment every time. Wunderbar! Gut gemacht! The best watch show out there and the best comedy show anywhere.
Believe it or not foreverness is a real word. I'd never heard it before so looked it up, learn something new every day, but when am I going to use that term? 😁👍✌
👏👏 wish there were more of these episodes. They are great.
I actually like the functions of the Leica ... very different.
You’re offending me with your mockery of the Breguet. I’m going to my safe space now
Absolutely hilarious. I love all that fluff!
Great video guys, always entertained 👍
Never thought I’d hear Claire de Lune on a Watchfinder video. Any chance we can get a full Watch review with it running in the background?
Let's see more of this format coming!
Love this episode! Best ever 🎉😂
The Leica has that Bauhaus feel in the dials.
That Breguet is a piece of art though !
"A trail of love sprayed across the dial..." Careful there, Morgan.
Bahaha!! This was thoroughly entertaining. Keep it coming please.
I Leica that watch, no bs story required. Then I looked up the price 14K for the GMT i didn’t Leica it that much after that revelation.
Get it used for $5k.
Wow the Leika actually is amazing
I love this show. Keep it up lads
Super fun! Now.. Grönefeld and the new Christiaan van der Klaauw watches..
The UN, a watch for sailors that isn't water resistant?
Hi Guys, Love the Show... any chance you guys release an apple or spotify podcast soon for this format?
That Leica watch is beautiful!
Were these written by J. Peterman?
Excellent use of Satie's Gymnopedie #1.
The video I want to see is a year from now, about the guy wanting to sell his Leica watch. As a photographer who has friends with Leica gear to sell, I can hear it now. "Make sure we can see the sticker on the plastic sleeve the watch came in, that sticker shows that this watch was made on the north side of the building, they are much more desirable that those made on the south side. And lets make sure the photos show that there aren't any scratches anywhere, since I never wore it."
about the leica marketing phrase "photograph is not a recording of a fact, its a recording of a feeling" while yes it sounds cheesy, as a photographer i feel like there is a little bit of thruth to that. for example i edit my photos colors according to the feel of the moment it was taken, often its not the most realistic or accurate way to do it, but still feel that, that is the way the represent the moment the best.
‘Love is timeless’…wait
Leica is ‘The Hugo Boss of Watches’.
The bloody power reserve indicator on the Bréguet is wonderful!
'Love sprayed across the dial showing your power ...' ... ummm cue the jokes now.
Menstruation blood…
I think this is by far the best 21 minutes I spent eating a döner.
Cinco! I actually like the Leica but damn that’s pricey!
That dial looks like a poster for Fargo (1997)
That Leica is a better minimalist execution WITH FUNCTION! than anything Nomos has produced.
I am glad I am not the only one thinking this
Leica ... hand crafted loveliness ... you vill buy ze watch NOW!!!
Witty and well-produced. Nice chat guys!
When he hit the *~Watchfinder voice~* @ 7:12 😂
Great videos as always. Can you review a Cuervo y Sobrinos watch?
1:07 there’s a hair on one of the gears. You can see it riding the gear near the center of the screen as soon as the scene stars. SMH, so much for QC.
Honestly just entering the watch game…. That Leica looks pretty good
Edit- damn that’s expensive. They probably would have been a hit at 50% that’s cost
Unfortunately if they sell @7,000 the riff-raff may buy them! Leica maybe!
Much less...
@@kerrybayton2954 maybe...
The moonstruck is a $80,000 watch, I'd love to buy it.
All I want is plus or minus one second a year. My radio sync and my new GPS sync watches come close, but I want a Citizen 0100 movement for well under US$1000. Outside Japan as well as inside, too.
Hi watchfinder can you do a video on the Jaeger Lecoultre Polaris Chronograph Worldtime
I like the ideas behind the Leica.
Watch marketing fluff .... Parfume and Cologne manufacturer 'here hold my Chardonnay'.
Dudley Moore in Crazy People would love this.
I have deciphered the myriad manifold mysteries of the Moonstruck... the necessary clue is that little UN logo with the anchor that Nardin engraved on the... uh... I guess that's the rotor for the automatic works? Yeah. That. There. It's the logo of the UN Cosmo Navy from Space Battleship Yamato. It's clearly intended to be an aid to spatial navigation when calculating warp jumps for the Yamato. Lt Shima the navigator probably wears one. :D
Love the Leicas. Very cool.
The ideal world guy is the king of fluff but even he can't compete with some of this.
That UN...talk about form over function
Leica watches are really cute. Reminds me of Nomos
Digging the Leica.
Wouldn’t be able to justify the $10/14K for it.
Cool AsF, though!
Brilliant!
Feeling a bit gross. "Trail of love", "caressing [] hands", "moonstruck" pats on the bottom from Fernando Martinez. Need a shower. Hopefully, the handcrafted foreverness will wash off with soap and water.
The UN is beautiful. To their credit, at least the UN press release used "sailors" and not...
Haha, airborne spores. Smells like love alright.
I like them all!! Lottery jackpot please!!
I was so disappointed to find out that the Leila watch is over 15k. I absolutely love it.
Awesome!
When I first saw that Nardin I thought, thats amazing, I hate it....
Shout out to Emotion 98.3
Not many TH-camrs make me laugh out loud like you guys.
Okay, I don't think saying that London signs doesn't have any fluff except for telling the time is really an accurate statement, with their f****** triple split chronograph
Advertising for guilt. Make them feel guilty for seeing thru the hype. You're too intelligent to have feelings.waaaas!
In fairness to the camera company they are saying it’s like a watch not actually a watch.
Hmm, Leica or Blancpain Fifty Fathoms. Tough one.