Tbh, i wouldn't have minded this turning into a full guide. I like pvp footage with commentary and find it extremely helpful and interesting to understand a build and it's decision making and get better at the game. Gameplay montages with music never have been my jam. Maybe i'm just not a visual learner.
Thanks Spudzie for the shoutout . I loved playing this build even before the recent patch. It became even stronger after the patch . I’m glad you like it .
I was a long-time roamer on Renegade, but it felt like it couldn't keep up with the new EOD specs for quite some time. But... this build changed everything. Damage, sustain, mobility, this one has it all, as you said. I am rather on my beloved Renegade again than bringing a Cele Harbinger or Willbender. Thank you very much to bringing this to my attention!
Ahh this was the buiild, vs'd a rene with this build and they just straight wouldn't die kinda nuts. Also Fist Meets Fate is suck a sick song! great vid!
This build is great! As a rev main, always wanted a ranged option. For some reason sigil of cleansing is not working every 2nd, 3rd or 4th weapon swap, maybe a new bug coz that what’s getting me killed….
Exactly there is a 9sec cd on sigil. However with the cleansing sigil plus generosity sigil plus invocation legend swap cleanse plus dodge cleanse plus staff 4 , you should never really have issues with condi anymore to be honest
I often find that there is a delay on shortbow 3 if Phase Traversal hits. Sometimes it goes on like a 1 sec cooldown as if i've been stun. Is this common? I am thinking it seems like more of if enemy moves towards me in Phase Traversal, and shortbow 3 has delay in adjusting to target...not sure
Hiya, yeah you can run this in a group. I would swap out one of the legends with ventari if you're doing this, and play as a support hybrid with projectile block :)
I like this build but with Antitoxin Runes instead. Every legend swap and dodge removes two Conditions plus with Generosity Sigil that is another two removed. I think this shores up Renegades biggest weakness....conditions
Disgusting condition removal. Why is it ok to make builds completely immune to conditions. But it would be considered absurd to make a build take 95% reduced damage 100% of the time? Glorious balancing by Anet as usual.
I am torn between Song of the mists or charged mists. I find myself too many times in need of more energy especially when u fight multiple enemies. But maybe charged mists is too unreliable in fight? Any thoughts?
Why? Celestial is only useful on a few classes and builds By far not every build can profit from it Truth be told celestial was underpowered for years - why jot enjoy it for now?
I'm not he biggest fan of cele but i think it's very fun and and beneficial on rev and ele specifically. The classes are a bit all over the place and cele makes everything they do feel worthwhile and satisfying.
@@gewreid5946 exactly you need essentially a build that can utilize power and condi damage, proper heal skills and also do boons Is one of them missing its better to change to a more specialised stat
Tbh, i wouldn't have minded this turning into a full guide.
I like pvp footage with commentary and find it extremely helpful and interesting to understand a build and it's decision making and get better at the game.
Gameplay montages with music never have been my jam. Maybe i'm just not a visual learner.
Thanks Spudzie for the shoutout . I loved playing this build even before the recent patch. It became even stronger after the patch . I’m glad you like it .
I was a long-time roamer on Renegade, but it felt like it couldn't keep up with the new EOD specs for quite some time. But... this build changed everything. Damage, sustain, mobility, this one has it all, as you said. I am rather on my beloved Renegade again than bringing a Cele Harbinger or Willbender. Thank you very much to bringing this to my attention!
thanks for sharing the sigil tip! Ill make this change too
Neat! I've never played renegade, like honestly never, but I might have to try this... on some yaks for weeklies! :D
You should give it a shot! It’s a lot of fun
Hello. what about infusions (power or condi)?
Both work just fine. I was using power.
Hello congratulations on your video. I would like to know what support meals you spend with that buil or the most appropriate.gracia!!!
Ahh this was the buiild, vs'd a rene with this build and they just straight wouldn't die kinda nuts. Also Fist Meets Fate is suck a sick song! great vid!
Thank you :)! The build is nuts ! Also T8 hype!!
This build is great! As a rev main, always wanted a ranged option.
For some reason sigil of cleansing is not working every 2nd, 3rd or 4th weapon swap, maybe a new bug coz that what’s getting me killed….
Could be, just remember it has a 9 sec internal cd
Exactly there is a 9sec cd on sigil. However with the cleansing sigil plus generosity sigil plus invocation legend swap cleanse plus dodge cleanse plus staff 4 , you should never really have issues with condi anymore to be honest
I have *got* to try this!
I often find that there is a delay on shortbow 3 if Phase Traversal hits. Sometimes it goes on like a 1 sec cooldown as if i've been stun. Is this common? I am thinking it seems like more of if enemy moves towards me in Phase Traversal, and shortbow 3 has delay in adjusting to target...not sure
I love rev too. I have been rocking your sigil swap build in wvw. Which one is your fav of the two?
Hell yeah, I love that herald build. My favorite would have to be the renegade however. In pvp, condi herald is currently my go-to
This looks really fun . Overall what is your fave class and spec to roam on . Also whats best class that can roam and hop in 10-20 person squads
Revenenat by far is the most fun to me. For Zerg hopping id probably say thief/Mesmer since they have good out of combat mobility.
Just out of curiosity, what ping do you play at usually? Dunno if I'm seeing things but looks like a bit of delay between skill buttons and casts.
Hi, I usually have good ping. But I do get lag spikes occasionally. Could’ve been one of those.
@@spudzie9117 All good, I just usually run 220-250ms so got excited at the idea of being that good at PvP with crap latency...
Loving this, never had much joy with rev but this feels great. Is there a group variant maybe with hammer instead of staff? cheers again for this!
I am wondering about this as well.
Hiya, yeah you can run this in a group. I would swap out one of the legends with ventari if you're doing this, and play as a support hybrid with projectile block :)
What would you recommend to convert this for PvP?
I have a video on that coming soon ;)
@@spudzie9117 Can't wait!
me who is looking for something fun for wvw and has full celestial renegade bc of lvl80 boost: yeah this looks cool i will try this =D
can I used this build also for running with small group 😃
Yessir 👍
I like this build but with Antitoxin Runes instead. Every legend swap and dodge removes two Conditions plus with Generosity Sigil that is another two removed. I think this shores up Renegades biggest weakness....conditions
Disgusting condition removal. Why is it ok to make builds completely immune to conditions. But it would be considered absurd to make a build take 95% reduced damage 100% of the time? Glorious balancing by Anet as usual.
I am torn between Song of the mists or charged mists. I find myself too many times in need of more energy especially when u fight multiple enemies. But maybe charged mists is too unreliable in fight? Any thoughts?
Its hard to think lowering energy for triggering charged mists during intense fights, I don't like it.
Celle stats,where is this map in open world?
Love Rene!
Bro, link ur build i don't speak English.
Pls
I knew the build was good before but now it’s even more mad. I just find it sad that the renegade skills are not finding real use in wvw.
Like the Videos keep it up 😀
Appreciate you :)
Nice build
Thanks ! :)
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I can never get renegade to work in wvw, especially if you get surprised by 4 or 5 man and need to escape .
With this build you should be able to do that better :)
What about food?
I forgot the name, but it’s something like: Orrian truffle meat stew ( endurance food)
@@spudzie9117 ty :)
@@spudzie9117 what about utility
@@bl1tzcraft superior sharpening stones
@@spudzie9117with regen per sec food you get the Unyielding Spirit perma active..not worth?
PPT guide forsooth! :D
Easy PPT
The Platinum and Mithril kills are impressive in a 1-vs-Everybody, but the last 2 bronze kills are only shown to pad the runtime mate, c'mon.
After he said full cele I stopped watching
I don’t blame you
Why? Celestial is only useful on a few classes and builds
By far not every build can profit from it
Truth be told celestial was underpowered for years - why jot enjoy it for now?
I'm not he biggest fan of cele but i think it's very fun and and beneficial on rev and ele specifically.
The classes are a bit all over the place and cele makes everything they do feel worthwhile and satisfying.
@@gewreid5946 exactly you need essentially a build that can utilize power and condi damage, proper heal skills and also do boons
Is one of them missing its better to change to a more specialised stat
To be fair u can play every class with Cele and it works
No offense but i hope they delete cele stats for wvw some day..
fantastic guide, is there any other possible runes for this build?
this must be on US servers where maybe 10 ppl ever played pvp
It is on NA servers
maan you gotta stop promoting cele builds
This one was too good to pass up
tell that to anet, they buffed cele