Is QuickBooks Desktop Ending? Alternatives & Updates for Entrepreneurs
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- Are you a user of QuickBooks Desktop? If so, you may be wondering what kind of changes are happening to the platform and how it will affect your experience. In this video, we'll walk through what exactly is going on and show you real Quickbooks price comparisons if you're thinking about switching software. Moreover, I'll provide insight into what this means for the future of QuickBooks Desktop and help you make a sound decision around whether or not you should embrace these changes or look at alternatives.
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I've been using QB for 20 yrs, currently Desktop Premier 2020. Been getting all the emails about discontinuing but have not paid any attention to them until last week, I figured it was the same 3yr notice as always. Software that used to cost me $450 every 3 yrs, will now cost $800 per year. Insane - I will not do it. Plus I have Enhanced Payroll and merchant services, both of which I cancelled today. So Intuit not only lost a long term customer, but the increased cost plus the $500 annual payroll service, plus the merchant services to the tune of $20/month plus 3.69% on card fees. I do not use any cloud based computing and refuse to store any of my data on someone else's hard drive. So I'll just keep on using my software and find an alternate payroll solution and merchant service. Terrible business plan Intuit, just terrible.
Good for you....I feel exactly the same. I am tired of dealing with bank accounts that are being hacked into, Credit Cards that I thought were secure that security is continuously being called. I am blessed where I live. So far CC services are still done "the old fashioned" way and our banks here in the Virgin Islands still realize that we are not like the "Real World" with all it's "High Technology".....if I have to go back to doing accounting manually, I will. It is called EXCEL
I am on the same boat. Regretfully I went to subscription Desktop version and is costing me annually $800.00. I have to pass the cost to my clients. The one and only reason I continue with QB is for the Enhanced Payroll. Nevetheless I a looking into third party payroll services and go back to the last QB Accountant Version prior to subscription. QB 2021.
Agreed...QB desktop all the way for me. I think it's a better program anyway, especially for payroll. This is a great way to push business owners to a payroll service like ADP, etc.
What did you end up using as alternative? Thank you
I am a CPA (20+ years) and have been using QB for even longer. One of the drawbacks to QBOnline is that it is hard to create customized reports if you need something a bit out of the ordinary. Not so much a problem with QBDestop. And some clients have been using QBD since 2003 without upgrading. Granted they are not interfacing with their bank online, but QBD without support means that you can't call QB for help (no more talking to India). This is not as big a deal as might be supposed since there are so many QB Pro Advisors and/or QB practitioners available to help with your particular issues. I just hate paying each month for QBO which in my opinion is not as good as QBD. I am the CFO of two S corps and have been using QBO for more than 5 years. Yes, QB has improved QBO but I would switch back to QBD in a heartbeat.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts! You have lots of experience in this area!
It's all about the money. Nothing more.
Well...yes. Business tends to be that way.
Boycott Intuit! Greed, greed, greed. I have no choice but to “upgrade” because of the payroll sub. The interface even in Desktop View is a real downgrade. Horrible. They deserve to go bankrupt.
Boycott and use what instead?
@@boomboomboba I think you put your finger on the issue. Monopolies are never a good thing.
The new QuickBooks is the worst POS! I've just started using it and it is a nightmare!
I just tried adding a new employee to payroll and it won't let me without an email!! The employee didn't want to give their email and I had to tell them they didn't have a choice if they wanted to be paid.... they're not happy, I'm not happy, office manager isn't happy....luckily she is looking into other companies.
Going to server side is a great way to put everyone's info in one place to make it simpler for a hacker or government agency to scrub all that information. Makes total sense. Quicker, simpler, and easier to be stolen from. Love it. ;-)
Amen
Will Desktop 2023 hold your data hostage like online does?
I have Desktop 2020 and really don't want to upgrade or change. I don't use online banking, credit cards, and could not care less about their "support." All I use is payroll. Do I have to upgrade/change? The new pricing DISGUSTS me.
Bite the bullet. Hell no. I am a former CPA who has been using QB since it was DOS screens.I now do bookkeeping for one little client and my personal bookkeeping on Quickbooks desktop. I have NEVER used their support. I only upload banking transactions. I will go back to handwritten ledgers like we did in the 70s before I pay almost $700 for an annual subscription. No way will I lock into anything with them going forward because once they have you and they have your data, you are hostage.
You definitely have to pick the right solution for you.
desktop is better, the longer you can keep it the better
I think it depends on the user. Personally, I HATED desktop when I used it. It felt clunky and outdated to me and I don't always work from the same computer. To each their own!
I agree I like desktop and my info is in my control, at least I perceive that.
I tried QB online 2 years ago for 2 weeks and went back to desktop. I'd try Xero before doing that again. I hate subscription software, it makes me grumpy to pay a bunch of money for something as basic as it is.
@@kiwidancer95 Exactly right....my info is in control....I am not going to lose that option...
@@pz4540 until your computer is hacked or stops working. Desktop was a good product for 1999 its 2024 now....
I am a trapped 20 year mad user
Ditto, this sucks
Trapped in what I didn’t realize has apparently been a significant discount on multiple online subscriptions for the past few years. Can’t afford it. Very mad.
The worst recommendation is to use an online accounting software platform. the IRS will love you. Only use a on premise platform. This was nothing but a sales pitch for her making more money.
Thank you for your feedback. I'll escalate this to management.
If the only benefit of QBO or QB with a subscription is support, then it’s not worth it. The support is horrible. I am currently still using QBD 2014 Pro with no issues. QBD is fully paid for and I can set up more than one company versus a separate subscription for each company. Please remember, once you switch to QBO you can never go back.
Thanks for sharing this info!
I have QBD 2013 Pro with no issues, although it is installed on an old laptop. Any idea how I can move everything to my new laptop, since I don't have a disk but do have everything backed up on a external hard drive ? I would appreciate any help. Thanks.
@@mikekentertainment8769 I don't know about that version particularly ( I have 2019) but when I bought new Mac for my office, I was able to download the desktop version, input all my license/product numbers and everything else was just there (if I remember correctly). Otherwise I think you can reopen the last backup from your External Drive. Hope that helps.
If I have to go online, then I might as well use a different company that does it better. So long QB.
Fair enough
What I am upset about is that my Quickbooks Pro 2020 won't even allow me to import .QBO files from my own hard drive anymore. They previously claimed I would only lose "online banking support." So I was paying $200 every 3 years, and now they want $600 per year. 10x as much.
I am having the same issues but did not realize it was because of this. Thanks for pointing that out.
I am hearing lots of people complain about this for sure
1:37 I have desktop. Been using it for ove 15 years. I currently have Desktop Pro Plus. I just email statements and invoices to about 40 of the same customers every month. They are telling me that my subscription expires next month September 2023. Will I still be able to email invoices and statements after my subscription expires? I don't use any support. My needs are very basic, I just need to email statements and invoices. All my parts and supplies I keep as hard copies so I don't input that information. I just really use it for emailing my monthly customers. The emailing of statements is most important to me
I just had to make the decision a few days ago of whether to renew desktop or make the plunge into QBO. They are offering short term discounts on the QBO and enhanced payroll, but when you take those discounts away, Desktop w/payroll was actually cheaper. I was told with my upgrade I will have support for a full year and in September they will decided whether or not they will continue to offer Desktop. I will stay with Desktop as long as possible. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. 🤷♀️
It depends on which version you need as to whether it will be cheaper without the discounts. In most cases, QBO will end up being cheaper even when the discounts roll off.
That's my thoughts and not a fan of all my business info in cloud
I was told that I could continue using 2020 QB Pro (until May) but can't download transactions or email invoices. Then another person told me I could still buy the Desktop version for $500. My PC has a notice on it now saying that it's been all set up for me and I have 3 days to prepare! It mention's having my phone connected as well. I was going to try it today as I have some catching up to do with data entry and I really don't know if it's Office 2016 being pushed to the live version is what this is about. What ever it is is going to take time and I hope no more money as these companies seem to think that I have an endless supply of both!
So are you saying that desktop is going to go away completely? and I heard that QBO cannot do some of the functions that desktop enterprise can do- like bins, lot tracking, Bill of materials and some of the purchase order/ vendor management functions. Are the only options for that to buy a separate inventory system to work with QBO? like SOS or Fishbowl?
Do you also have a discounted price link for payroll add on?
I understand that the only constant is change. I also accept the premise that at $300 for a three-year run, Quickbooks desktop was under priced for what it does. But it looks like this change to online is going to make my Quickbooks cost multiply by a factor 1500%. That’s not a typo, I’ll be paying 15 times what I’m used to paying. For reference, this is the equivalent of a $6.00 Starbucks latte going to $90. A $300 a week grocery bill going to $4500. And a $40,000 automobile costing $600,000. If I was in business school right now, trying to get an MBA, I would do a deep dive into this, it’s such a great example of what happens when competition goes away. Having said all that, Jamie, you clearly seem to be the best informed person I’ve seen on TH-cam about all of this. Will definitely be purchasing through your link.
Yes a great example for sure, glad it was helpful for you!
Hi QB Online we need to have different subscriptions for each company? We are using QB Desktop using for multiple companies. Please advice.
Yes, you pay PER company :(
Desktop is superior (value-wise) for multiple company users
Thanks for addressing this -- it is so timely, and it feels like a message meant for me, personally! Great job -- I guess I will start the transition asap.
Awesome! I knew I made it for someone ;)
Why.....
I have desk top 2019 pro. I use it for two personal accounts and three businesses. I do not use the payroll option. What would be the best option?
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What do you know about QBO and multiple entities? (For example, the property management company that I do bookkeeping for has several (like 8-10) entities with different bank accounts, AND different Quickbooks Desktop files, to keep it all seperated. Do you have knowledge of whether or not this situation QBO would fee us up the rear by requirements for each entity? Truth be told, I am MUCH more likely to choose between sticking with QBDesktop for as long as I can, and heavily investigating alternatives like Freshbooks/Xero, but the fact that ONE entity does payroll makes it complicated and expensive. Truth be told, I am will likely (next) research how I might be able to handle our Payroll through a separate option and stick with QBDesktop 2020 and have my Payroll be clunky.
I’ve yet to see a way to have multiple reports and windows open in the online version, which makes it a lot slower than using a Desktop version. Please tell me if I’m wrong!
Mostly that's because of version control if you are working in the same "module". That said, there are ways around it! quickbooks.intuit.com/learn-support/en-us/install/how-to-open-multiple-windows/00/224725
Personally I don’t think they’re going to get rid of desktop anytime soon. Ultimately I think they’ll probably end up selling it to another company. There are still some QSP’s that will sell the pro version of desktop, but they cannot “advertise“ it officially. I do agree there’s a push to get folks to move to the online version. There’s also more of a focus on the Mid Market product, the advanced subscription level. I just hope some of the smaller businesses don’t get left behind. If they do, then I’m here for them!
I sincerely hope so....I will be working closely with IT to see if purchased unsubscription users can still access their software until another solution is found.
They are not going to sell a product to another company that connotes with themselves. When Adobe bought Macromedia, they didn't sell Freehand (which competed with Illustrator) to other company. They stopped supporting it and killed it.
I thank you for your video. I currently have Quickbook desktop and will be converting to QB online. What will happen with my Enhanced payroll subscription? Do I have to get one of the new payroll subscriptions (Core, Premium ...). Do I have to enroll at the same time to get the discounted prices offered for new online users?
Don't do it. You will regret QB Online if you migrate over. I can say this confidently as I've learned this the hard way. You will hate that product
Someone give me a clue how to get the QB online app to default to my dedicated printer. I’m having to change my printer settings every time I print a check. Desktop worked perfectly.
Hi Jamie, you are so right, well explained video
Glad you think so!
They aren't discontinuing Enterprise Desktop though are they?
Can QB Payroll be added to the plans using your special ink?
Yes it can. Email us at support@balancecfo.com if you sign up using our link and want to get signed up with QB payroll!
Been in business since 1987. I can't even remember WHEN we started using QB, but it's for as long as I can remember. Decades of data. I currently use QBDT Pro Plus 2020. I use 3 different accounts. Two separate businesses, and my personal. Online banking is CRITICAL for us. Question: Is Intuit going to charge us a separate fee for EACH account? Obviously QBD accommodates all three accounts with the one license.
HI Jamie! I am user from 2003 Q premier now have 2020 ver.! I am small business owner i do everything and submitted to my cpa Iam very familiar with premier desktop and I don’t really know what version is right for me i am retail store I don’t send invoices or estimates i just track sales (submitting day sales from my POS),reports,banking and reconciliation and payroll
While QuickBooks Simple Start might be just a tad basic, Desktop Pro and Premier users can opt for either QB Essentials or Plus. If you decide to try one out, you can always upgrade or downgrade at any time! I also go into this a bit more in my blog article here: jamietrull.com/2023/04/04/quickbooks-desktop-alternative/
@@JamieTrull thanks again I go see and get someone!! Also i qualifies in case of move to Online to get the discount price that you’re offered in the links? Because I never create an online account! Thanks again
Very informative. I have a paid 2023 Premier Plus desktop subscription. To re-up they want $950. I don't use any online services, no payroll. All I use is invoicing and the general ledger. If I don't re-subscribe...... will I still be able to use my 2023 version or will it shut down.......? Thanks in advance
The software will work, but when your computer eventually fails, you won't be able to re-install the program, meaning all your data will be inaccessible.
Hello, I can't stand QB, which I've had for years, which is also why I'd like to switch from QB desktop to another desktop software that's designed for that purpose, so it's seamless, easy migration, almost identical, with built-in shipping manager, etc.
Is there such a thing, & if so, which is the best?
Thank you...
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Why are you not talking about QB Enterprise? Other than the horrible price! I believe it's closet to the desktop version, especially if you also do payroll, which I do. How do you feel online compares to essentials? I only switched three days ago and am interested if I made the right choice? I haven't used QB online in several years and just remember hating the product. Thanks for your feedback.
I have QB Payroll. Can I add that feature through your affiliate program?
Yep! We have deals on payroll as well, but only for new users. Email us at support@balancecfo.com and let us know what your Company ID is and we can help!
I have retired, but still use QuickBooks desktop for our personal finances as I did prior to retirement. Is it possible to migrate to Quicken or something else without starting from scratch?
You can likely download data and upload it, however I don't know the specifics. There may be some TH-cam tutorials out there to help!
I have Desktop Pro Plus 2023, I upgrade each year and have been for 15 years and would like to switch to QB Online. But I am not smart with this stuff. Do you have a service to help people migrate over to make sure all goes smooth?
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Don't bother. They charge exorbitant fees for each business you put online. I currently have 3 business accounts on QBO and another 4 on Quickbooks desktop. Desktop is better and when they quit supporting online banking I will find another provider (not QBO). Plus the QBO interface sucks. It is hard to find basic stuff (like online banking links ) you have to get there through "Transactions". Mind blowingly bad... and I'm an IT guy.
Thanks for the explanation Jamie. Perhaps I missed it, but does your affiliation also have any discounts for desktop? I've noticed Etsy sellers are around 50% discount for the version. I'd rather purchase from someone like you though at a higher price.
Hey Craig! I appreciate you asking! I don't have a discount for Desktop unfortunately, so definitely go for the best one that you see out there!
Resellers are not permitted to discount QuickBooks desktop any more. Be careful out there. Anyone offering a discount for desktop may be a scammer.
So what can we use instead of quickbooks online?
I found the answer and it is Quickbook Desktop "Enterprise" Solutions 24. It's $3600 a year
You could use a traditional spreadsheet, or there are other options like Wave, but personally I prefer Quickbooks
Does discount work in the uk?
It is for US only!
I only do the basic features. No employees, no payroll, no banking. They tell me my 2016 desktop Licence number no longer would work and they keep pushing this online QB. it involves a monthly charge whereas my original desktop was a one time payment. Are there any other programs with basic features that are available ? QB or another equivalent program ? These QB people hold you hostage by forcing you to pay for an upgraded service that some small business owners dont need. Help
If you are looking to get away from the monthly fees, you could use a simple spreadsheet to keep track of your bookkeeping.
What are the alternatives to QB?
An accountant friend recommends Xero as a QB option
Xero is a great alternative to QB - same or better features, less costly, and includes a subscription to Hubdoc for receipt management
It's subscription based too.@@reinimechanic
nope I did it, tried online and it really sucks...after several upgrades and call with support...QB could not support or answer my questions...it took my hours when on DT it would take minutes
Sorry to hear that, that is frustrating!
HUM , I DID START BY PUTTING IN OUR BUSINESS NAME, BUT DID NOT FULLY SET UP THE ACCOUNT AS I WANTED TO SEE WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE
If you already signed up for the free trial using a different link, it won't connect you to my deal, unfortunately. If you want to get the deal, you'll want to cancel that free trial and sign up through my link with a different email address (otherwise it will consider you an existing client).
Not in a million years do I want to put my confidential customer information online, this sounds like a paid advertisement
It is definitely not right for everyone.
10 minute QB commercial.
A well informed commercial to update you with everything Quickbooks :)
Almost the same monthly fee as ALL Adobe Creative Cloud Apps combined! As expensive as Adobe CC is, it at least pays for itself (or makes me a profit) if I use it. QB is just a time and money suck in order to pay taxes. Been using QB since 1996 and the cloud version would not fit my needs. As a freelancer, I don't even use 95% of what QB offers anyway. Paying about $10/mo for a Mac Desktop version would be about right for what I need as I have free alternatives if necessary. There is not a single feature in QB that I use that has changed since 1996. If I were an accountant and using it for clients my needs would be far greater. Based on what my CPA charges me, a QB subscription is nothing - he uses to it make money.
I've had it with QuickBooks TBH. There is no reason to be forced to pay for a program you own each & every year. Adobe did the same thing & I switched to Affinity. I have ZERO ISSUE abandoning companies that try to extort their customers like this. I will do my own book keeping by hand on a stone tablet if necessary just to spite them.
I get that, I think alot of people feel similar to you. You have to do what is right for you :)
Thanks Jamie.
You're welcome!
Greed!🤑
I do not want my financial data stored in the cloud without a way to have FULL offline backups. That goes against every principal of good software practices and disaster recovery.
Everything that is man made can be man 'hacked'. What type of protection does Quickbooks online have to keep my financials from being corrupted or hacked?
Here's some information on their security measures: quickbooks.intuit.com/hk/security/
As a QBO user, I can confirm. It’s great :)
I think its a learning curve, but it has a ton of functionality. Much improved over even 5 years ago.
Great video Jamie
Thanks Hector! I love your step-by-step walkthrough of switching from Desktop to QBO. So helpful!
I kept QB 2020 Pro and added SurePayroll. What used to be $300 every three years went to $550 a year + they will hold all my data hostage moving forward.
I don't want my data held hostage in some cloud. Thats why I don't want to migrate to Quickbooks online. A total ripoff.
Too bad for old people or people with learning disabilities. "Bite the bullet" and learn something different to do the same stuff you've been doing for 30 years. I have a client who has been keeping all their extensive real estate business finances in WRITTEN LEGERS in a safe. I've long thought they were crazy, but they are in their late 80's now and there are no problems knowing "how to" do their accounting. Thanks for a great video, though!!!
Everyone is going to have a different process for sure, whatever works!
This is so incredibly stupid. Not everyone is ok with having all their private information online. They could still do an annual plan without forcing people to give up their peace of mind by storing their own personal data. Microsoft does licensing without forcing you to be on a cloud.
I completely understand that reasoning. You definitely have to pick what works best for you.
Greed will be Intuits demise.
It definitely won't work for everyone
So basically, Intuit says it will not support small businesses. The online is not as responsive and isn't designed for small business.
The online versions are still great for small business owners. You just need to compare the different versions to see what features you need.
Your heading is misleading you are an advertiser for qb, so sad.
Sorry you feel that way, I recommend Quickbooks to my clients because it's a great solution to there bookkeeping problems. I never recommend anything I don't 100% stand behind.
More sustainable for intuit? No its rent seeking, they aren't offering any thing in the online version that I want or need. Just a higher price.
I completely understand how you feel.
I’m sticking with QuickBooks PRO 2021 lifetime and now using PayPal to collect online payments and exporting csv files for banking. Really $650 a year to use their payment network and bank feeds isn’t a good value. In fact intuit is loosing my transaction fees. Payroll is an easy add on. Totally not worth it.
QBO is designed to be outsourced in the cloud ecosystem. With QB Desktop it is designed for you to run on your own. Intuit just wants to look for ways to make more money.
There are definitely pros and cons to both. You have to pick the right one for you.
Quickbooks is not going away with desktop. They just went subscription based and offer cloud hosting to anyone that wants to log in from anywhere and still use the desktop better. An online subscription is not necessary. This is beyond false information.
They have priced desktop so high that it might as well have gone away.
They told me they eventually want to only provide the cloud version.
Really? You recommend a small business check out SAP as a QBO alternative? lol come on, you KNOW a small business that's using QB isn't going to switch to SAP, that's just scaring them back to QB.
I said it was for more complex businesses. I recommend QBO, but also named a few other options for those who don't want to move to the cloud. There unfortunately aren't a ton of options that aren't cloud-based anymore.
As an accountant what would be the best QuickBooks desktop or online to manage my clients?😊😊
Definitely online. Way easier for collaboration and version control!
Greed, is why they are doing it.
This seems to be what alot of people think
And yes support is awful for online services. They cannot help users
This can be frustrating for sure.
I will say good bye to Quick Books. Lots of lower cost options for small business.
Fair enough!
This is not true quickbooks desktop isn’t going anywhere we only keep up with 3 years at a time we just launched 2024 but people like you doesn’t have the facts I’ve already caught you up in 3 rumors Nit gonna call ya a liar but there’s a ton of qbdt products! Qbdt is a subscription base product as we’ll believe me when I say quickbooks is moving forward leaving the need of a cpa or bookkeeper in the past. How do I know this is just a sales agent well I may know a few things
Just another Intuit sales pitch
Sorry you feel that way, I only give 100% authentic answers and opinions on this channel. While I do love Quickbooks, it might not be for everyone.
Jamie is a shill for QB ... 1. imports from desktop fail, 2. cost is recurring and 2-3x more expensive, 3. most functionality of desktop is lost, and you are a permanent hostage to QB forever now... SHE DOESNT EXPLAIN ANYTHING ABOUT ALTERNATIVES IN THIS VIDEO
I personally do like Quickbooks, but it might not be for everyone.
I AM SETTING UP A FREE TIRAIL BUT WHEN I NEED TO SET UP PAYMENT WHAT DO I USE TO GET YOUR DISCOUNT. QUESTON CAN USE STILL DOWNLOAD INTO QBD AFTER THE END OF MAY FROM YOUR BANK???
To get the discount, you need to use my link BEFORE you set it up. Go to JamieTrull.com/Quickbooks and sign up there. Yes you can still downland after the end of May. Hope that helps!
Jamie Trull - Quickbooks salesperson. Intuit lost my business forever. Corporate greed!
I personally enjoy Quickbooks and only recommend what I love to my clients and audience, but it won't work for everyone. You have to do whats right for you :)