I'm a retired contractor with about 45 years experience and by far, hands down, the best tool i've ever owned or used (and I've owned and used many!) is a Komatsu PC28 Excavator with a thumb. It makes short work out of removing small to medium sized stumps in about an hour. These small stumps would take maybe a minute or two each..... Larger ones can take a couple hours but not days, weeks, months, or years...I bought a "grey market machine" down in Oregon (no sales taxes) and it's paid for itself many times over. So many uses, i can't even list them all here and best of all, no more back breaking hard ass work!!! The machine does it all and is actually fun!! If you can afford one, you won't be disappointed...guaranteed!!!! (PS. I have 5 acres in Western Washington so it's a God sent!!)
I learned this technique in the army. We would upright flipped Humvees in the middle of nowhere (we used to off-road and screw around a lot) with a 5 ft long 4x4 with a notch at the top and a 3/8th inch chain. Very effective. It kept us out of trouble because if we had to call a wrecker to come out with a boom and a winch to up-right us we would have to fill out a report.
Great job Jason. You got 'er done and I learned a new method. I bought my 2010 F-150 new and been working it harder as I turned 70 this year. Last pick up I'll ever need to buy. It has never seen salt or sand here in Nashua. Been hauling a travel trailer up to Maine with it. That little V-8 screams going up some of those mountains. I keep waiting for the transmission to blow. Thanks for the great post!
Pulling with the front end of your truck is good because of the weight of the motor, instead of pulling from the rear with an empty bed. Also or shorter chain would give you more strength for the truck to pull the stump up easier, as opposed to a longer chain. Being a cowboy in roping cows, a longer rope gave the cows more advantage to pull your horse, a shorter Rowe gave the horse the advantage of pulling the cow. Also a stee truck l rim works as good as anyting, it won't fall over and it won't squat in the middle like your tire. Also shorten up your chain , you only need about four to five foot of chain running from the stump to your truck, it will be easier to pull and you won't have to be concerned about anything coming through the windshield. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for the video and the tips! I've been watching some other videos and using a tractor wheel rim or a tire and wheel seem to be the superior way to pull the stump out (thank you physics). It seems that the bare wheel rim does better than a tire in most of the videos. The only reason I can think of is that the rubber tire seems to absorb and spread some of the pulling force through the tire, losing precious force to the tree stump (maybe why you have to rock back and forth more). The bare wheel rim also seems to stand on its own easier (doesn't fall over). I will be putting these methods to the test on several small trees that I need to pull up on my land. Also, thanks for the safety tip regarding the carpet piece.
On first video Jason gently edges it out stump, On 2nd and 3rd stump he says... BONSAI! Good job jason...... GOOD demonstraton for others, and YES, good for mentioning the rug. Very important if they like their windshield, grill or HEAD.
When I tried to pull an osage orange ("bodark") fence post using a tire rim and a 2-wheel drive pickup, all I got was a broken back bumper to frame connection. After thinking about this for years (I'm a slow thinker) and watching this video, I can see that I made 3 mistakes: 1. a tire mounted on said rim would have provided more leverage; 2. I should have attached the chain to the frame of the pickup; and 3. I should have waited for a good rain.
Using a 5 ton harbor freight chain hoist and a neighbors spare tire to pull a camphor tree stump. Have to go around the trunk of the oak tree so the wheel is to get upward lift. Using 1/2" truckers chain, already broke 3/8" chain pulling pieces out. This stump is massive and been working on it since June. 12' across.
That worked really well dude! I use an 8 series John Deere and you've now proven that that s totally overkill! (8 series being rare in the UK for domestic use!) Lol. Top vid Jason
use 50 feet of nylon rope. I would love to see that. It stretches really well, then boing, the whole stump comes up on the hood, but it works really well so I have heard.
A rim without a tire would stand better and give the chain a grove to ride in. Need to take care the chain doesn't fly off and go thru the windshield. Would be an idea to drape something over the chain such as water hose, heavy coat, etc. Something that would slow the chain.
I "think" the taller the tire, the better the leverage in converting the sideways force of the truck pulling force to an upward lifting force on the stump. If that is true, then using a "tire rim" would almost defeat the purpose of the mechanical advantage. Unless the tire rim is from an old tractor, (as if everyone has one of those laying around)
NEVER pull in reverse! That’s how you break stuff. Also, with that small of a stump I could of dug it out by hand quicker than it took him to “rig” everything up.
I pull in reverse with no issues. That is what those tow hooks are for. Its important to see what is going on , and pulling from the back end makes that a real challenge if you are alone even with mirrors. There is a difference between pulling a stump and towing a car. .
If you do any actual pulling in reverse like that, instead of just using the truck's momentum , you'll end up wearing out the reverse band in your transmission prematurely. Take it from somebody who learned that lesson the hard way. Somebody on here was worried about the ring and pinion of the differential being biased toward forward, but that's not your weak point.
Andrew B, let me put my transmission nerd glasses on. The 4l60e does not have a "reverse band". I think what you are saying is reverse is not as strong as the 1st gear. I am not sure that is universally true, but sustained hard pulls from a stationary point will no doubt heat up your auto, just like it would heat up the clutch on an manual. You could do the same thing with a high lift jack or a come along. That said those are mighty small "stumps" so I doubt he put much heat on that tranny, or diff as some other commenter pointed out.
Or for that matter a not "modern" transmission. Automatics old or new are not supposed to slip any more than a properly functioning manual clutch would when it is completely released. Pulling on stumps does tend to show you where the weak link is in your driveline.
Big stump removal: dig down on one side deep enough to bury a 5 gallon bucket. Fill bucket with sawdust shaving and high octane gas slurry light pinecone toss into bucket...watch for falling stump.
cables and straps will whip because they can stretch, which stores energy. The energy releases when the cable/strap breaks or comes undone. chains, on the other hand, dont stretch, and dont store energy, so they wont whip.
the tire is not needed. These are not really stumps. These are bush root balls. Kinda puny. Reverse does not have a whole lot of torque either. This could be done in drive. Real stumps require granny gear. That is the #1 on the steering column indicator thingie.
We tried pulling a pine stump with a large dump truck and logging chain... chain broke and hit the bumper of the truck... would have killed anyone in the way!
John Nitschke he's not using any drivetrain Force to pull, he's just using the momentum of the truck tugging a little at a time. he said he had no traction.
I hope you are jerking, jeremy. John is right. I would use the front hooks in a emergency to pull, but besides that those are there for an anchor for someone to pull you out.
"besides that those are there for an anchor for someone to pull you out." It's a Chevy, joshua... it doesn't need pulled out. Those hooks on the front are for pulling out Fords. ;)
No need for that tire with those puny stumps. Gentle tugs work on reverse pulling , just don't go nuts unless you want to buy a new windshield. You don't really pull out stumps,, you break them free a few roots at a time. Its not a one pull job,, stumps need to be broken free a little at a time when pulling them out unless you own a Caterpillar bull dozier.
It’s the chain in a straight shot with his face. Using reverse isn’t unsafe, it just depends on the rig it could do damage plenty of trucks can pull in reverse though
@@billlee1724 Well $200 would buy a lot of kush, so I see your point. But I can't believe with all the videos like this on TH-cam people are still trying to pull stumps out with vehicles. It hardly ever ends well.
I'm sorry to tell you this but This is a fool's way to do this! Always pull from the rear of the truck. Teaching people to do something dumb is irresponsible!
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I'm a retired contractor with about 45 years experience and by far,
hands down, the best tool i've ever owned or used (and I've owned and
used many!) is a Komatsu PC28 Excavator with a thumb. It makes short
work out of removing small to medium sized stumps in about an hour. These small stumps would take
maybe a minute or two each.....
Larger ones can take a couple hours but not days, weeks, months, or
years...I bought a "grey market machine" down in Oregon (no sales taxes)
and it's paid for itself many times over. So many uses, i can't even
list them all here and best of all, no more back breaking hard ass
work!!! The machine does it all and is actually fun!! If you can afford
one, you won't be disappointed...guaranteed!!!! (PS. I have 5 acres
in Western Washington so it's a God sent!!)
I learned this technique in the army. We would upright flipped Humvees in the middle of nowhere (we used to off-road and screw around a lot) with a 5 ft long 4x4 with a notch at the top and a 3/8th inch chain. Very effective. It kept us out of trouble because if we had to call a wrecker to come out with a boom and a winch to up-right us we would have to fill out a report.
Great job Jason. You got 'er done and I learned a new method. I bought my 2010 F-150 new and been working it harder as I turned 70 this year. Last pick up I'll ever need to buy. It has never seen salt or sand here in Nashua. Been hauling a travel trailer up to Maine with it. That little V-8 screams going up some of those mountains. I keep waiting for the transmission to blow. Thanks for the great post!
Pulling with the front end of your truck is good because of the weight of the motor, instead of pulling from the rear with an empty bed.
Also or shorter chain would give you more strength for the truck to pull the stump up easier, as opposed to a longer chain.
Being a cowboy in roping cows, a longer rope gave the cows more advantage to pull your horse, a shorter Rowe gave the horse the advantage of pulling the cow.
Also a stee truck l rim works as good as anyting, it won't fall over and it won't squat in the middle like your tire. Also shorten up your chain , you only need about four to five foot of chain running from the stump to your truck, it will be easier to pull and you won't have to be concerned about anything coming through the windshield. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for the video and the tips! I've been watching some other videos and using a tractor wheel rim or a tire and wheel seem to be the superior way to pull the stump out (thank you physics). It seems that the bare wheel rim does better than a tire in most of the videos. The only reason I can think of is that the rubber tire seems to absorb and spread some of the pulling force through the tire, losing precious force to the tree stump (maybe why you have to rock back and forth more). The bare wheel rim also seems to stand on its own easier (doesn't fall over). I will be putting these methods to the test on several small trees that I need to pull up on my land. Also, thanks for the safety tip regarding the carpet piece.
use a rim with a tire for pulling with winch cable .
On first video Jason gently edges it out stump, On 2nd and 3rd stump he says... BONSAI! Good job jason...... GOOD demonstraton for others, and YES, good for mentioning the rug. Very important if they like their windshield, grill or HEAD.
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I did this once with a rope and a 3' 2"x4". Works great.
When I tried to pull an osage orange ("bodark") fence post using a tire rim and a 2-wheel drive pickup, all I got was a broken back bumper to frame connection. After thinking about this for years (I'm a slow thinker) and watching this video, I can see that I made 3 mistakes: 1. a tire mounted on said rim would have provided more leverage; 2. I should have attached the chain to the frame of the pickup; and 3. I should have waited for a good rain.
Using a 5 ton harbor freight chain hoist and a neighbors spare tire to pull a camphor tree stump. Have to go around the trunk of the oak tree so the wheel is to get upward lift. Using 1/2" truckers chain, already broke 3/8" chain pulling pieces out. This stump is massive and been working on it since June. 12' across.
Use the tire with approx. 50 percent inflated and the tire will stay upright and allow the chain to dig into the tree better.
That worked really well dude! I use an 8 series John Deere and you've now proven that that s totally overkill! (8 series being rare in the UK for domestic use!) Lol. Top vid Jason
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I have a few trees I need to get rid of, ill try this out thanks for the video
Love that ORIGINAL Triumph T-Shirt!
Jason, I use a tire rim. It does’nt fall over. You just kick it up to the stump and it has good leverage.
yes I used a rim and used to pull out fence posts works great
This was really helpful! Thank you
Nice job, I'm going to try it. Thanks for the tip.
Good idea. I do something similar but soak the ground first for a couple of hours.
we use regular naked steel front tractor rim same method but hooked to rear of truck
Great idea! Ive seen this done without the tire to overgrown shrubs!
Some shrubs are horrible to get out.
Anything that helps is good.
Cool idea. Thank you for sharing
use 50 feet of nylon rope. I would love to see that. It stretches really well, then boing, the whole stump comes up on the hood, but it works really well so I have heard.
Years ago we had a Chevy, so we just walked everywhere.
Lol, terrible, lol!
Exactly.
ROOKIE AT COMMON SENSE!!!
Try just using an old tire rim, will hold the chain so much better.
Too small diameter
Obviously get a giant rear tractor tire rim. Your kids training wheel won’t work but nobody thought you would use that.
Learned it all from the thumbnail. You should teach a class on that. Hhaha
How can we get the far less successful horizontal stump pull people to watch the much more successful vertical stump pulling videos?
chain slip or break and you may be greeted with the chain coming through the windshield. Safety first
Howard Ray that's what the rolled up carpets for..."usually"
So will this work on a real tree stump not a little itty-bitty Bush
just use a wheel it works great I use it on stumps all the time
At least.
Cut a notch with the level cut on top, chain or strap will sit in the notch and not slip off.
A rim without a tire would stand better and give the chain a grove to ride in. Need to take care the chain doesn't fly off and go thru the windshield. Would be an idea to drape something over the chain such as water hose, heavy coat, etc. Something that would slow the chain.
Super...!!!!!
Thanks for sharing this video.
why not break a couple of roots before you pull?
I "think" the taller the tire, the better the leverage in converting the sideways force of the truck pulling force to an upward lifting force on the stump.
If that is true, then using a "tire rim" would almost defeat the purpose of the mechanical advantage. Unless the tire rim is from an old tractor, (as if everyone has one of those laying around)
good job!
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You should change the grab hook to a slip hook
short will not snap when breaks wire rope and nyion rope or strap will only proof chains are safe look it up
Now that's just slicker n snot!!! lol great idea!!!
NEVER pull in reverse! That’s how you break stuff. Also, with that small of a stump I could of dug it out by hand quicker than it took him to “rig” everything up.
Yes not reverse. Dodge cummins 4x4s brake the front cv ujoints in reverse. I've seen it happen on 2 trucks.
I pull in reverse with no issues. That is what those tow hooks are for. Its important to see what is going on , and pulling from the back end makes that a real challenge if you are alone even with mirrors. There is a difference between pulling a stump and towing a car. .
I just use a shovel and a double bit axe.It gets your heart pumping and don't ruin your transmission
I got gobs of bush honey suckles to pull out. I got the stuff to do it. Thanks.
Well done. Beats digging it out hands down! :)
Put two cinder blocks (one on each side of the tire), dweebowski! 'Tire falling over problem' gone! (smh)
Ive heard cut the stump tall and you can pull them up easier
You call that a stump ???
If you let a quarter of the air out of the tyre it will make a flat spot to stand on
If you do any actual pulling in reverse like that, instead of just using the truck's momentum , you'll end up wearing out the reverse band in your transmission prematurely. Take it from somebody who learned that lesson the hard way. Somebody on here was worried about the ring and pinion of the differential being biased toward forward, but that's not your weak point.
Andrew B, let me put my transmission nerd glasses on. The 4l60e does not have a "reverse band". I think what you are saying is reverse is not as strong as the 1st gear. I am not sure that is universally true, but sustained hard pulls from a stationary point will no doubt heat up your auto, just like it would heat up the clutch on an manual. You could do the same thing with a high lift jack or a come along. That said those are mighty small "stumps" so I doubt he put much heat on that tranny, or diff as some other commenter pointed out.
Or for that matter a not "modern" transmission. Automatics old or new are not supposed to slip any more than a properly functioning manual clutch would when it is completely released. Pulling on stumps does tend to show you where the weak link is in your driveline.
Big stump removal: dig down on one side deep enough to bury a 5 gallon bucket. Fill bucket with sawdust shaving and high octane gas slurry light pinecone toss into bucket...watch for falling stump.
Well....it worked, so there's that.
with that tiny stump u should be able to pull it out without tire in two wheel drive if it was on rear hitch
Who else watched him get closer and closer to the oak (?) tree and was going "Yeah man, go for it!"
I already pulled 4 or 5, I don’t need tires or rim, that take more time, just chain and truck will worked
"HOLD MY BEER. WATCH THIS!!!"
Hell yeah hillbilly engineering
You have more power if you put it on the back of the truck.
NOT SO. What does power have to do with this? Its a small stump from a bush, not a massive tree stump. This tire thing is so stupid its not funny.
Cool man!!!
nice work
Good job, on a 3” stump. Now do a video on a 12” stump. It may not come out as easily, I’m guessing.
How much was a new clutch?
take the tire off and use the rim only
Use a steel rim preferably truck rim .semi trailer old dump truck. Should never have a tire on it.
yeah i liked that.
Thought chains just dropped when they snap because they don’t stretch so wouldn’t it just fall instead of snap back?
A stretched chain is under tension snapping a chain would be similar to letting go of a stretched spring
The problem is exactly that they do stretch.
the reason 4 doing it this way is to prevent the stump from splitting off
The reason is that it's easier to pull the stump upwards than it is to pull it sideways.
I swear, the only trucks I ever see being used for these kinds of hillbilly jobs are rusty 88-98 Chevy 1500's.
Cause the fords and dodges are broke by this time
Stumps?
cables and straps will whip because they can stretch, which stores energy. The energy releases when the cable/strap breaks or comes undone.
chains, on the other hand, dont stretch, and dont store energy, so they wont whip.
Yea right....
And dynamite only explodes down...
My German Shepherd yanked all my little trees out with his jaw. Have all day to do it, don't like to be left alone in the backyard.
What model(s) Triumph do you have?
the tire is not needed. These are not really stumps. These are bush root balls. Kinda puny. Reverse does not have a whole lot of torque either. This could be done in drive. Real stumps require granny gear. That is the #1 on the steering column indicator thingie.
Damn glad i saw this i was going to try it by hand
Nice job.
Chains don’t snap back, they collapse, now cables & ropes will kill you...
Chains do snap back and kill people look it up
We tried pulling a pine stump with a large dump truck and logging chain... chain broke and hit the bumper of the truck... would have killed anyone in the way!
Ok, I’ll defer, but if a cable snaps it’ll slice a body in half...
@@justindoyle5972 Why not send me a link to prove your point? Lazy ass dissenters, you must be a Democrat...
@@adodado1101 Either way, he mentions a solution, attach a towel to the lead cable or chain, and it will deaden any snap back.
See I was with you until 1:33 and the truck move my first mind said you abou to put that chain all up in your windshield😂😂😂😂but still 🤔
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Not good for the clutch...and the best way to get the chain on the windscreen ...
Seriously?? stump....???....maybe a tomato plant stump.......
That's funny! I agree
Never a good idea to pull anything hard in reverse. the design of the ring and pinion gear is much stronger going forward.
John Nitschke he's not using any drivetrain Force to pull, he's just using the momentum of the truck tugging a little at a time. he said he had no traction.
I hope you are jerking, jeremy. John is right. I would use the front hooks in a emergency to pull, but besides that those are there for an anchor for someone to pull you out.
John Nitschke A ring and pinion both have straight teeth so it doesn't matter.
"besides that those are there for an anchor for someone to pull you out."
It's a Chevy, joshua... it doesn't need pulled out. Those hooks on the front are for pulling out Fords. ;)
No need for that tire with those puny stumps. Gentle tugs work on reverse pulling , just don't go nuts unless you want to buy a new windshield. You don't really pull out stumps,, you break them free a few roots at a time. Its not a one pull job,, stumps need to be broken free a little at a time when pulling them out unless you own a Caterpillar bull dozier.
My wife did this exact same thing a lot faster with a hatchet and long-handled spade.
maybe you need training wheels on that tire lol
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Do not yous your truck to do this type of work You will break your transmission $3000.00 to fix
Unsafe rig. Please do not copy this.
The tire thing is smart but don't pull in reverse.
It’s the chain in a straight shot with his face. Using reverse isn’t unsafe, it just depends on the rig it could do damage plenty of trucks can pull in reverse though
A poor mans french wheel.
It looks like a french wheel is a sanding disk?
For Gods sake, just rent a stump grinder.
Mr. Tommy Badger lol it would be quicker to dig those up by hand and then I’d have a next 200 bucks
@@billlee1724 Well $200 would buy a lot of kush, so I see your point. But I can't believe with all the videos like this on TH-cam people are still trying to pull stumps out with vehicles. It hardly ever ends well.
very
Looks dangerous
a sturdy board will do the same thing.
why risk your radiator,windshield and your health with a front hitch? No response is necessary
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Kellog would be proud.
Wheres the part where the chain slips off...goes flying through the air...shatters thr windshield...and breaks out a few teeth...😂😂😂😂😂
Should name it “Fail Simple Trick”
Hey ya’ all watch this!
Truck 1
Stump 0
SLM...... Stumps Lives Matter..... lol
I'm sorry to tell you this but This is a fool's way to do this! Always pull from the rear of the truck. Teaching people to do something dumb is irresponsible!
Set your fucking purse down and pull the fucking stump out! lol jeezus
No kidding, good grief!
etom2511 I bet that dude uses crisco on the regular........
1 match,, 1 cup of gasoline.. GONE.
Yes but what about the stump?
Yeah, this is dangerous.