Real Analysis 35 | Properties for Derivatives

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  • @demr04
    @demr04 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What a great proof of the product rule, very easy and simple. In wikipedia there is a one adding 0s to the definition, which make it more long and tedious

  • @Hold_it
    @Hold_it 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks a lot for another amazing Video! :D

  • @diegoharo8305
    @diegoharo8305 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At 1:04 you establish that lim_{x-> x_0} \delta_{f,x_0}(x) needs to exist with a specific value \delta_{f,x_0}(x_0) , but in the first implication the requirement for differentiability is just that lim_{x-> x_0} \delta_{f,x_0}(x) exists. Why these two stamens are equivalent ? I think that the statement at 1:04 requires more (a limit whit a specific value) and the first stament requires just the limit exists. What am I missing ?

    • @brightsideofmaths
      @brightsideofmaths  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Maybe you are missing the continuity? :)

    • @diegoharo8305
      @diegoharo8305 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@brightsideofmaths Yes, I got it now. Thank you so much, your videos are really helpful !

    • @diegoharo8305
      @diegoharo8305 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry, I get in trouble again :'(. Suppose that the difference quotient function (f(x)- f(x_0) / x- x_0) is almost everywhere 0 but 1 at x=x_0 by the first definition the function is differentiable at x_0 because the limit exists and it's 0, but by the second definition this difference quotient function can't be extended to a continuos function at x_0, then it's not differentiable ?

    • @brightsideofmaths
      @brightsideofmaths  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@diegoharo8305 It think you should recall the definition of a limit again. What you describe at the beginning cannot happen.

  • @ahmedamr5265
    @ahmedamr5265 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video as always! One question:
    Let f(x) be a function that is equal to 1 at x=0 and zero elsewhere. According to the first line in the video, wouldn't f(x) be differentiable at x=0 since the limit of the quotient exists?

    • @brightsideofmaths
      @brightsideofmaths  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the question. The limit of the quotient does not exist as a real number. You calculate (0 - 1)/x for x to 0.

  • @dipankarroy871
    @dipankarroy871 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Will it be the last video of Real Analysis of this playlist?

    • @brightsideofmaths
      @brightsideofmaths  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No, the series is still in production :)

    • @dipankarroy871
      @dipankarroy871 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I am using this series as a supplement for my college course (I liked your teaching style),
      Will be waiting for more videos in this playlist : >

  • @synaestheziac
    @synaestheziac 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you explain the last step of the proof the the product rule in a little more detail? Specifically, why does the term with both deltas equal zero?

    • @brightsideofmaths
      @brightsideofmaths  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Not that deltas vanish but the factor in front (x-x0). We just need continuous functions to do the limit process.

    • @demr04
      @demr04 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Remember that the linear aproximation of f(x) is f(x0) + f'(x0)*(x-x0)
      If you have the product of two function and do a linear aproximation f(x)*g(x) = f(x0)*g(x0) + (f*g)'(x0)*(x-x0)...
      But also you can multiply both linar aproximation of f and g...
      (f(x0) + f'(x0)*(x-x0)) * (g'(x0) + g'(x0)*(x-x0))...
      Given that the two fórmulas are equal, it's just a thing of substrate repeat terms and see that..
      (f*g)' = f'*g + g'*f + f'*g' and the last term is omitted because converge to 0

  • @zoedesvl4131
    @zoedesvl4131 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So serious version of differentiation is taught AFTER uniform convergence? Never seen any order like this. Is this what German universities do?

    • @brightsideofmaths
      @brightsideofmaths  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      This is what I do :) I think this is a good order because I can highlight the importance of uniform convergence much better.

    • @angelmendez-rivera351
      @angelmendez-rivera351 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I actually think uniform convergence _should_ be taught before differentiation, at least in a real analysis course.

    • @duckymomo7935
      @duckymomo7935 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Uniform convergence of derivative preserves differentiability

  • @IzauroNeto
    @IzauroNeto 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Infinity ♾️ infinity ♾️ ∞

  • @FraserIland
    @FraserIland 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Please, change the title. This is part 35!!!