Analyzing OutKast's HIGH ENERGY BEAT "B.O.B. (Bombs Over Baghdad)" | Drum Patterns Explained

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  • @CaptainPikant
    @CaptainPikant  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +140

    In case you notice a weird volume shift at the beginning of the end jam: That wasn't us. It took us a while to find out, but it seems to be caused by a relatively new feature in the TH-cam mobile app called "Stable Volume". It's supposed to even out unbalanced video soundtracks, but it just wreaks havoc on the end jam where we wanted a dynamic buildup. TH-cam's algorithm boosts the intro because it thinks it's not loud enough and then abruptly makes up its mind again when the Kick sets in... If you want you can disable "Stable Volume" under video settings (the cogwheel icon in the upper right corner) > other settings.

    • @GhostOfLorelei
      @GhostOfLorelei 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Annnnd off. Thank you 😊

    • @pladium5
      @pladium5 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      😮😮

    • @EclipseAtDusk
      @EclipseAtDusk 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I’d been WONDERING why youtube videos sounded weird lately - thank you for pointing this out!

    • @mastod0n1
      @mastod0n1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you so much for enlightening me. Just turned it off.

  • @SlaserX
    @SlaserX 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Wow, Acid Over Baghdad wasn't a song I knew I needed to hear, but here we are

  • @CaptainPikant
    @CaptainPikant  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    A note for all Hapax users: In the new firmware 2.00 there actually is a way to get swing per track: Since swing is a MIDI effect on the Hapax you can select the rows you don't want to have swing and set the MATH attribute to "NO FX" :)

  • @mmmdananananone
    @mmmdananananone 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Bloody brilliant! I always thought the programming on BOB was a tour de force, but I had no idea it was so subtle and clever. Thanks!

    • @sub-jec-tiv
      @sub-jec-tiv 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I hope Andre is watching this, enjoying the fact that people appreciate his music.

  • @kylejamusic
    @kylejamusic 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    So glad someone is making this content. And super high quality. I love how you repeat changes you make to make it clear what we’re listening for! Great way to teach, very inspiring

    • @CaptainPikant
      @CaptainPikant  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you so much :) :)

  • @reggiep75
    @reggiep75 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    I've always loved B.o.B and I make sure it's loud enough so that my neighbours can enjoy it too 🤘😂😉

  • @Retrobeet
    @Retrobeet 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    My favourite youtube channel and one of my favourite ever songs. I really look forward to your videos!

    • @CaptainPikant
      @CaptainPikant  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Thank you so much :) :)

  • @PinkBoardProducts
    @PinkBoardProducts 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Love this song and your acid rendition is so infectious. Much love!

    • @CaptainPikant
      @CaptainPikant  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks so much, we're glad you like it :) :)

  • @smol.robots
    @smol.robots 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I NEED a physical version of that book.

  • @scottvogel8477
    @scottvogel8477 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I love you show the "mistakes" and how to fix them in the process.

  • @Jaelights
    @Jaelights 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I love this cover so much, it makes me happy inside :D. I would never guessed a 303 could pull that off, but here we are!

    • @CaptainPikant
      @CaptainPikant  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Thanks Jae!! We knew the rap parts of Andre 3000 and Big Boi were insane, but translating it to a 303 really gave us another level of appreciation for them :)

  • @crimsonfancy
    @crimsonfancy 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Captain, your videos are excellent to me. The edits show impressive details that arrive unexpectedly and I'm hugely impressed with how much you have to teach with every submission I watch.
    Kit reviews are more helpful than any I've seen and these are essential to my search for a machine that will fit.
    Simple, unobstructed visual cuts allow me to absorb your formulas and help me to understand technique. Clean and approachable.
    Details between cuts are quite smartly thought out and even these short breaks make me smile bigger as the show progresses.
    It's time I finally visit to Patreon and I'm embarrassed to mention that I haven't already joined.
    You offer so much even for an old beginner and I wish to thank you.

    • @CaptainPikant
      @CaptainPikant  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you so much for your kind words, we're happy our videos are useful to you :)

  • @BOMBPHONICS
    @BOMBPHONICS 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I used to jam along with this song in my drum room all the time, great song

  • @russcontact
    @russcontact 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The quality of your videos is truly impressive. Thank you

  • @gd-cm9qe
    @gd-cm9qe 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video as always ! Would love to see more on the Hapax…like an overview/review that includes new update features. Ciao !

  • @real_anxst
    @real_anxst 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just fantastic stuff. One of my favourites, the patterns are so interesting. I'm glad you came back and made a full video to follow up the transcription!

  • @_B.C_
    @_B.C_ 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love the tutorials on the Hapax. Very easy to follow.

  • @ecrylian
    @ecrylian 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The drum programing in this is so particularly good, fantastic topic for a vid like this!

  • @German_Matias
    @German_Matias 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This channel is a blessing for me as a beginner producer. Thank you so much, man! 🤘🏻

    • @CaptainPikant
      @CaptainPikant  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's so great to hear, we're glad it's useful to you :)

  • @teslafieldphysics4041
    @teslafieldphysics4041 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I saw Outcast in concert in 2000, right after this album dropped. Everyone was chanting “B.O.B.” after every song until they played it! I was right up front. It was banging!

  • @pickyyeeter
    @pickyyeeter 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Perfect timing! I was just thinking about trying to recreate this beat earlier this week.

  • @atalanda
    @atalanda 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    That was incredible. Thanks! 😊

  • @lucascameron5230
    @lucascameron5230 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love when you A/B stuff. Shows how big small changes can be.

  • @lowlowseesee
    @lowlowseesee 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    love the end jam wow

  • @SpikesStudio3
    @SpikesStudio3 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Holy shit Cap, that was really something. You said once that Interns hands are like "crouching spiders" still makes me laugh every time she plays. Your work is special and im proud to be a patron.👍

  • @fruroo9723
    @fruroo9723 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don’t have a beat machine so I can’t pretend to understand all this but this video + whole channel is awesome and super well made, keep it up:)

  • @frenkyboydnb
    @frenkyboydnb 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For those uninitiated to breaks, this is combo of 2 step and kick heavy steppa beat used in dancehall. Basicaly a semi basic dnb pattern with added swing. Check stranjah for more similar patters explained

  • @ladeem95
    @ladeem95 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really didn't understand any of that but I loved watching it...very interesting 😊

  • @bulletdancestorm554
    @bulletdancestorm554 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this video is superb.

  • @zackarybrowning8825
    @zackarybrowning8825 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I appreciate that the "Groove" is measured as a percentage

  • @rhystillo
    @rhystillo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Truly incredible content. Peace from Australia!

  • @Mode-7
    @Mode-7 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I was just listening to B O B tonight. I always picture this being played by live finger drumming on an MPC. Even though I know that’s probably not what it is. It’s just so loose and groovy despite its high bpm.

    • @CaptainPikant
      @CaptainPikant  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Maybe it's because they show finger drumming on an MPC in the music video? :) The beat on the recording is quantized though.

    • @79Glitch
      @79Glitch 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@CaptainPikantit was an SP-1200, not an MPC

    • @CaptainPikant
      @CaptainPikant  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@79Glitch True, there's also an SP-1200 in the music video, but in the same segment (from 2:58 to 3:07) you can see them jamming out on two AKAI MPCs (an MPC 3000 by the looks of it).

    • @Mode-7
      @Mode-7 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CaptainPikant Wow. Haven’t seen that video in a long time. But I guess it influenced my view of the song.

  • @VocalChainsStudio
    @VocalChainsStudio 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Maybe someday I’ll find a way to party as hard as this beat. Thank you for breaking it down for us.❤

  • @gregoryzaharias1831
    @gregoryzaharias1831 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Best production videos ever wish u could make more plus I love your voice where are you from?

  • @Byronic19134
    @Byronic19134 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing. I now need to hear an acid baseline rap the lines of a Bone Thugs n Harmony song haha.

  • @danyaguirrebroca3844
    @danyaguirrebroca3844 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    What's the youtube comment equivalent of a standing ovation?

  • @chrismoser9676
    @chrismoser9676 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Don't pull the thang out, unless you cane to bang. WISDOM

  • @michaelkonomos
    @michaelkonomos 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love this series so much. Applies to almost any sequencer. I am impressed by your sequencing ability and there are few people showing how to do this. What really blows my mind is your ability to HEAR the nuances of the original. Do you have any tips or tricks? Been listening to music all my life, more critically recently, but these hits happen so fast - how on earth do you figure out to swing the clap?! this feels like some kind of advanced Jedi power...

    • @CaptainPikant
      @CaptainPikant  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you so much! We actually did a video that touches on that topic th-cam.com/video/o_aIrunTCRg/w-d-xo.html :)

    • @michaelkonomos
      @michaelkonomos 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CaptainPikant awesome! Thank you!

  • @croay
    @croay 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    hi captain, will there be a way to buy this book separetely from the patreon sub when it gets finished?

    • @CaptainPikant
      @CaptainPikant  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hi Croay, we haven't thought about it yet, but it's still a long way to go :)

    • @croay
      @croay 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'd be interested in that, unfortunately I can't afford to support you monthly through Patreon yet (mainly because my currency) but I'd be interested in saving some money to buy your book. You deserve all the support and I love your work, thank you!

  • @HelicopterRidesForCommunists
    @HelicopterRidesForCommunists 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love how methodical you are. Surgical. Pristine. Whereas I’m like “tha fuck did I just do? Wait what was that - sounded cool, keep it. Fuck it got undone. Oh well, redo. Why didn’t it reset to where I wanted it?” - another hour wasted after the previous several hours being wasted struggling to get audio/midi over usb devices working properly with my M3 Mac because for some reason theyre always janky and despite all of my usb ports, cords, extenders, hubs, powered hubs all being at least 3.0 and above its still a random chance whether or not they will be compatible enough…
    Looking at you, Polyend Play+ and Push 3….

    • @CaptainPikant
      @CaptainPikant  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks! But keep in mind that you don't see all my unmethodical experiments that happen before the video ;)

  • @anonymous_friend
    @anonymous_friend 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    love these hapax videos! ❤❤❤

  • @soaribb32
    @soaribb32 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is just so interesting...

  • @ryanakabomber
    @ryanakabomber 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was beyond badass

  • @pinkmouse4863
    @pinkmouse4863 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is weird. In my head, this tune is about 30 BPM lower. I had to pause your vid and go and check, and of course, you're right. My mind is playing tricks on me...

    • @CaptainPikant
      @CaptainPikant  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Maybe you were thinking of this awesome mashup th-cam.com/video/pwa3PDoOjYc/w-d-xo.html :)

    • @pinkmouse4863
      @pinkmouse4863 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CaptainPikant Don't think so, but that is a very cool tune!

  • @freezerman5871
    @freezerman5871 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Incredible to hear that this fantastic sequencer does not have swing per track? This a basic feature that MPCs have had for the past 25 years.

    • @CaptainPikant
      @CaptainPikant  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes it's surprising that most sequencers do not have this. We hope that it's added in a future firmware update :)

    • @gamokoner
      @gamokoner 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well it actually does have per-track swing, but in that case all the drum sounds are on the same track.

  • @DuckAlertBeats
    @DuckAlertBeats 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The only Outkast 12" I own.

  • @Dr_Fangaz334
    @Dr_Fangaz334 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just to inform you and also keep it real. The drum sounds used by André 3000, Big Boi, Mr. DJ for the song B.O.B. are sampled from The Winstons - Amen Brother using the E-MU SP 1200 and the AKAI MPC 3000.
    th-cam.com/video/GxZuq57_bYM/w-d-xo.html

    • @CaptainPikant
      @CaptainPikant  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      We just tried it out and if you pitch the Amen Snare and do some EQ adjustment it would fit quite well :)

    • @drfangaz-pronouncedlikefan4019
      @drfangaz-pronouncedlikefan4019 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nice

    • @drfangaz-pronouncedlikefan4019
      @drfangaz-pronouncedlikefan4019 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Also if I'm not mistaken all of the drums are in the EMU SP 1200 drum library. I'll check

  • @morrinsville23
    @morrinsville23 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Listening to that snare roll, it sounds like a reversed sample, i havent done critical listening to B.O.B although i have done this on other songs, and even discussed them with the artist. sometimes the simplest answer is actually how they did it

    • @CaptainPikant
      @CaptainPikant  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      After listening to the instrumental version it indeed sounds like a reversed sample, although I wouldn't rule out that there's also a roll in there. Either way I think the Snare roll approximates the effect pretty well :)

    • @morrinsville23
      @morrinsville23 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CaptainPikant oh hey, its a great tutorial, for a great song, you did an awesome job, and yeah the way you did the roll works perfectly, i didnt want to nit pick, just offer another option for that particular sound :)

  • @lowlowseesee
    @lowlowseesee 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    subbed just based off your topics lol wow

  • @mustafakahveci8710
    @mustafakahveci8710 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    you should try Büyük Ev Ablukada, they will impress you definitely. least check it out

    • @CaptainPikant
      @CaptainPikant  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks! Any favourite tracks you could recommend?

  • @matthewsaul3533
    @matthewsaul3533 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a suspicion that the sound which you've mimicked by creating a roll was more of a studio trick than a programming thing. There are places where you can hear rolls and those are obvious. That sort of lead up to the snare hit before which you programmed a roll doesn't sound like the other rolls in the original. I wonder if instead it was reverse reverb. Like they turned the snare backward, put some reverb on it, printed that, then turned the whole thing forward again. Or if it was indeed programming, perhaps they had a slower attack on the snares in the roll. But I think it was more likely reversed reverb.

    • @CaptainPikant
      @CaptainPikant  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Listening to the instrumental only version it indeed sounds like a reversed sample, although I wouldn't rule out that there's also a roll in there. Either way I think the Snare roll approximates the effect pretty well :)

    • @matthewsaul3533
      @matthewsaul3533 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It definitely does approximate it well. And your videos are really well done. Your video for Bjork’s Hunter was amazing to witness. My apologies for being perhaps overly critical. I can be a bit too literal when it comes to these kinds of things at times. For example, when people say that Jonny Greenwood used a filter envelope pedal on his solo for Paranoid Android it drives me insane, knowing that he used a mutronics mutator which is quite a lot more than an envelope filter. Thanks for your wonderful videos.

    • @CaptainPikant
      @CaptainPikant  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@matthewsaul3533 Thanks Matthew and absolutely no need to apologize, we're happy to stand corrected :)

  • @marcelduvenage3289
    @marcelduvenage3289 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is excellent, thanks so much! Can I ask you, how is the hapax vs the oxi one, is there one you prefer?

    • @CaptainPikant
      @CaptainPikant  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Glad you like it! To be honest I don't have a favourite, I think they are both are excellent at what they do :) We always choose the one whose features best fit the drum pattern (like the triplet zoom on the Hapax for the individual velocities of the roll notes in this video).

  • @happygolucky2231
    @happygolucky2231 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    sweet 😊

  • @willybobo8846
    @willybobo8846 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this thing is dope does it have it's own sounds or can you import samples with sd card?

    • @CaptainPikant
      @CaptainPikant  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi Willy! Neither, the Hapax is strictly a sequencer, so it's used to control other hardware or software that generate the sounds.

    • @willybobo8846
      @willybobo8846 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      if this company make a sampler/groovebox they wold be SP404/MPC killers...@@CaptainPikant

  • @ramirojotabeats
    @ramirojotabeats 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    amazinggg

  • @NATTI_LYTE
    @NATTI_LYTE 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    👏👏👏

  • @troyhenry7345
    @troyhenry7345 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Which drum machine are you using in this informative tutorial?

    • @CaptainPikant
      @CaptainPikant  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi Troy, our gear list is always in the video description :) The Hapax isn't a drum machine though, it's a sequencer that controls other gear.

    • @troyhenry7345
      @troyhenry7345 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CaptainPikant Thanks, I will check your gear list. I like your channel; the videos are comprehensive and instructive.

  • @ringtangting
    @ringtangting 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As we're all here with fellow drum programming lovers: state some of your favourite songs or artists in terms of drum programming below! Maybe Pikant can take some inspiration from it too, if they want!
    Personally I'm a big fan of Carl Craig's drum programming. Especially on his Psyche and BFC works. I recommend the track From Beyond. So groovy.

    • @ringtangting
      @ringtangting 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Or maybe @CaptainPikant can make this a question on their channel, if they want!

  • @ofootyeabicc201
    @ofootyeabicc201 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wait hold up is this why that one SOAD song is BYOB? That. Clever. I was today years old.
    Venetian snares when?

  • @dentka8474
    @dentka8474 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bro plz do venetian snares plz bro

  • @aseomg
    @aseomg 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like CP's videos, but this must be a drum pattern on a remix version of B.O.B. because the official instrumental is nothing like this. 😎

    • @CaptainPikant
      @CaptainPikant  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi aseomg, like mentioned in the beginning of the video we use different sounds, but otherwise it's the rhythm from the original ;)

  • @noisehead
    @noisehead 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lol this is very cool why am i not following you

  • @Waldemar_la_Tendresse
    @Waldemar_la_Tendresse 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What happened to the female hands? :)

  • @cristianocaldas
    @cristianocaldas 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think make afrobeat or Brasília beat is imposible....

  • @Tripwelleverday
    @Tripwelleverday 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I want a hard copy

    • @CaptainPikant
      @CaptainPikant  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That would actually a dream of ours to publish it as a physical book. Maybe when the book has grown a bit more :)

    • @gregoryzaharias1831
      @gregoryzaharias1831 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bro everyone will buy it I got a friend at penguin publishing if you wanna try and get a million copies made and distributed you’d probably have to make more after that and would be set for a few years

    • @gregoryzaharias1831
      @gregoryzaharias1831 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He is an editor and is kinda famous

  • @MezikeEllzy-or8sh
    @MezikeEllzy-or8sh 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice job lol better on the Mpc bro

  • @DF-we4pt
    @DF-we4pt 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It’s pronounced stank on ya

  • @stoatystoat174
    @stoatystoat174 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    :)

  • @AnAdorableWombat1
    @AnAdorableWombat1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sounds nothing like it at the end.

  • @robertrada4783
    @robertrada4783 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They literally hit play on a Roland MC-505 preset drum beat.

    • @CaptainPikant
      @CaptainPikant  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I just listened to the MC-505 factory preset patterns but I couldn't spot it. Which preset number do you think it is?

    • @robertrada4783
      @robertrada4783 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CaptainPikant I remember the presets were changed at some point. But honestly, it’s been over a quarter century. Another tune was basically a Korg Electribe preset.

  • @decimator95
    @decimator95 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    потраченное время

  • @samylemzaoui2298
    @samylemzaoui2298 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    why use this boring drum kit when you could have used the original sampled one-shots that sound a thousand times better ?

  • @messiahblackgod
    @messiahblackgod 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This has got to be the most Caucasian thing I've ever seen on TH-cam 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @husssamo
    @husssamo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is there anything more colonialist that having a drum beat called “bombs over Baghdad” 😂

  • @YoungNino2017
    @YoungNino2017 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You waste too much time showing this sequencer that no one else has... no one cares how you program a drum pattern on THAT thing that you have... you should just show a Midi clip if you really cared about teaching this rather than showing off your equipment.

    • @CaptainPikant
      @CaptainPikant  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Hi YoungNino2017, we use these kinds of sequencers because they help to visualize the pattern and they work in a 16 step grid, which most drum machines do. That actually makes the patterns very easy to adapt to other machines or to a MIDI clip in your DAW.

    • @YoungNino2017
      @YoungNino2017 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CaptainPikant NO, what drum machine has a sequencer like that? It's just like a sequencer made to work WITH a DAW, nothing like drum machine

    • @AkaTengu
      @AkaTengu 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@CaptainPikantI find the presentation helpful and nice, thank you. I use hardware and software, but this definitely encourages using and reminds me how quick and fun hardware can be!

    • @AkaTengu
      @AkaTengu 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Lol it’s just a 16 step grid. Only these ones help show multiple tracks/channels/samples which looks a lot like drum machine notation that you see for the TR-808 and 909. Maybe you have heard of those 16 step button drum machines? Many can chain patterns and handle ratchets/flams/rolls/etc just differently just like in various different software sequencers.

    • @YoungNino2017
      @YoungNino2017 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AkaTengu Yeah, idiot... the key is "DIFFERENTLY" the way this thing changes velocities and does triplets is unique to only it, the swing is unique to only it, and no one CARES to see how this thing works... we just want to see the pattern