I've Always remembered that great line from John Hurt (delivered snidingly brilliantly) to Tim Roth's character Archibald Cunningham and I've been waiting years to be able to say it to someone at the right moment. Lol. " You have a keen grasp of the criminal mind" I can still hear John Hurt sneering voice saying it..Class. r.i.p.
Such colourful dialogue that really tickles the poetic funny bone... and I love that Rob Roy, who the Marquis Montrose would suspect to be far beneath him in intelligence, is shown as being more than able to match him in conversational skill. My praise and thanks to the scriptwriter(s). ^_^
@@midgeburleigh5694 The best line was "... even tho plowed frequently, her field was such that no seed could find purchase" or something to that effect, describing that the Queen did not produce an heir.
you ought to be congratulated on such cheaply bought nobility LMBO, this move is untouched by other movies and full of the best lines and delivery of them for sure.
Pat Gogan Since it was released in the same year, I do often wonder if he did his scenes at the same time or his Braveheart scenes in pickup days. I presume his shots were left till nearer the end.
Which is completely unrealistic. Have you ever been to scotland? No you need not to answer such query, for your barren utterance bares no fruit of thought.
@@nepntzerZer lol he never said it was realistic. He just he likes how they insult eachother without cursing. U just wanted to show everyone how smart u think u are
Braveheart overshadowed Rob Roy for me back in 1995 but now that I've grown older this movie has won me over with the performances and the writing. John Hurt is delightful with his line delivery and mannerisms and Tim Roth is equally good as Cunningham.
This film needs more recognition then it deserves. The acting and script and the plot are up there with the best. I have never seen such a brilliantly directed movie get such an under average rating. Probs due to Braveheart being out the same time but it’s totally different type of movie
This was a brilliant movie and the they were all quite brilliant actors, actresses - But, there's something about John Hurt's style that mesmerizes me.
Unlike England, Scotland was still quite a feudal place before 1747 abolished heritable jurisdictions. That kind of thing ended in England by around 1500 with the abolition of "livery and maintenance" by Henry VII.
It’s decent enough, given the details. Rob takes the money, buys cattle, sells them for a massive profit and pays back the Marquis in one go. It’s a big loan but it’s very short term, so there’s an argument to be made that the Marquis needs to see a better return for it to be worth it to give the loan.
@@harryhoffer9804 The West End of Glasgow has many a hill leading from the city centre. Bothered them not. They had Black slaves hauling them up methinks. Disgusting.
This movie ...it ticks bcos to John Hurt and Tim Roth....the wicked brutal sarcasm and wit delivered by a sharp tongue is better then that final duel..
John Hurt was the greatest actor in the English language.The man was literally a cameleon,he could make one's mind believe that he WAS the character he was playing.
@@davidsimpson9647 And what exactly is that supposed to mean? Both actors have/had incredible careers filled with amazing and amazingly diverse performances.
These acres of yours is security. And my oath ➡️ McGregor's claims that his credibility is also security.. But his lordship's face is telling like "whatever..." epic🤣🤣
But that was just negotiation and posturing. Because of course, a man having an earned reputation for keeping his word reduces the risk of anyone lending money to him, reducing the lender's leverage for demanding a higher interest.
Maybe one of the greatest actors on the face of the planet, Hurt has played everybody to everyone. Even played a hitman in a Terence Stamp film, same era he played the vulnerable Winston Smith. Ever seen him do Caligula in I, Claudius? On top of that he played Jesus for Brooks. How's that for contrast? Now here's he doing a posh Scottish accent befitting some Hutchy Grammar teacher in Glasgow. He even did narration work, with one of the most distinctive refined, gravely voices the women must have loved. He was from Derbyshire in the English Midlands. He died in 2017 aged 77, and one of my favourite performances was as the hapless fibber Timothy Evans, a true story.
I know some will disagree but I think the Marquess of Montrose's rather snide opinion of Rob Roy's "honor" and skepticism about his paying back the loan without security is understandable. Rob Roy MacGregor admits he stole cattle, though he denies he ever "reeved" cattle placed under his protection. That is an admission that he is a thief and someone who sells protection, plain and simple. Cattle rustling and selling protection were common in Scotland at the time but not one of us would loan money to someone who is an admitted thief, so why should Montrose do the same without securing collateral? And the "I'm poor and forced to do these things" excuse falls flat when you consider he has 300 acres, a VERY considerable land holding for the time in his name. I doubt few of us in the Marquess's place would not also be skeptical of this man's honor, even if he is the hero and protagonist of this movie.
@@IrishCarney It only applies to titles before the Union in 1707. It is originally a continental title and the Scots simply used the French spelling. From 1707 all marquessates in the peerages of Great Britain and from 1801 of the United Kingdom are spelt Marquess in the Letters Patent.
John hurt , worth watching the film for him alone , Tim Roth also . the film itself is a bit of a curates egg , good in parts , the good parts always contain Hurt and Roth . the interchange between Argyll and Montrose and the swordplay and mannerisms of Cunningham make this a most enjoyable movie.
The common people of Scotland in these times were persecuted by the landowners. They were forced into their actions by extremely harsh taxation from the local landlord e.g. Montrose.
How much was that back then is very hard answer to give. The differences between today's money and then are too great to make a comparison. However a year's Salary could be round 60 pounds as a cattle farmer. A pair of Flintlock pistols would cost round 3 pounds 15 shillings, and 3 pence ( there is a bill of sale in the Kelvingrove Museum Glasgow ) . You could not buy 1 castle with 200 pounds let alone how many castles.
Mr Hole If the last commenter is correct, 3/4 of a year’s salary for someone like McGregor. That is, of course, if McGregor was typical. The terms offered seem to suggest otherwise.
Well said, and that's why everyone should take care not to give their word hastily, if they do indeed wish to behave in an honorable manner. Consider carefully as to what and to whom you give your word. And if there is any hesitation within that feels you won't be able to deliver on said promise, or you feel the person you may give your oath to might take advantage of it, then it is best not to give it.
Who do channels like this NEVER balance their audio?? I had to turn the volume right up to hear the clip from the movie, only to be absolutely blasted by the outro. FFS
Indeed. Such a man despises that which he cannot buy, and through his own character can never hope to have! The way Montrose conducts himself means that, despite his wealth, he will always be regarded as a bastard in society. Rich yes, but still a complete bastard!
Question: Montrose knew Cunningham is his bastard. But did Cunningham know Montrose is his father? Cunningham told Betty he doesn’t know who his father is. On the other hand, you think he would’ve guessed.
Lang Hansen The use of those words does, yes. However, that doesn't necessarily mean that he was. I remember Montrose referring to his mother as his sister.
It's this type of social and economic disparity that made the New World so attractive. A person could arrive in the Americas and leave the aristocracy behind at the waters edge
And not just that, he was able to take advantage of the shortage of labor to gain good wages, and the availability of land to own his own land rather than be tenant to another.
I thought he was saying 20% of the profits from the cattle sold. Basically, 1000 pound loan that will be repaid in full plus 20% of all profits on the cattle raised and sold. So not really interest, but profit for Lord Graham.
300 acres? That is barely one decent sized cow paddock Did someone fail to do their homework there? Even 3000 acres wouldnt make RobRoy the successful baron figure they are claiming here...
@@Henrys473 yeah it's ridiculous. That's almost yelling distance to a neighbour, a small farm that a broke farmer has. If he was supposed to be some wealthy successful cattle and land owner he would have had much more land than that.
A great Lord or a petty money lender ? Or a petty Lord and a great money lender ? Or just petty ? At least he talks like a poet. Entices me almost to liking him. Almost that is, your Lordship.
@steve gale Being a cattle/sheep rustler at the time was very normal in Scotland. As for being a coward, didn't he lead men into battle multiple times? I never knew MacGregor was a rapist either
@steve gale You may well be right. Most accounts of his life I read about indicate that he was far from a man to shy away from battle. Voluntarily entering two Jacobite rebellions is far from cowardly, especially considering how Clan MacGregor had been treated in the past.
@01:20 Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm a little confused here: Is Montrose asking MacGregor (in an overly-pompous & fancy way) if there is any truth in Kilern's report that Rob-Roy had, in times past, stolen Montrose's cattle from him... ...and Rob-Roy answers by saying that he had, indeed, stolen cattle before but he had never stolen any cattle that were placed directly in his care (and, thus, half-way expects Montrose to trust him with his cattle)... ..is this not so??
Montrose wasn't asking if he'd stolen cattle from him, just in general. Outlaws and cattle-rustling were common as a result of poverty, and even viewed as heroic by many of the common folk who hated the rich aristocratic money-lenders. MacGregor's ability to defend and retrieve cattle made him useful, and having a reputation for never betraying the trust of an employer usually outweighed past deeds or whatever extracurricular activities one got up to on someone else's lands.
@@Murchad99 More broadly, Scotland, like Ireland, had a deeply ingrained tradition of cattle raiding. Herd animals have the great advantage (to thieves) of being able to move on their own as directed, rather than, like grain or gold, needing to be carried. This created a culture of raid and counter-raid, undermining the ability of a central authority to retain and grow wealth to exert control, in turn making family ties and honor feuds all important. Similar dynamics emerged in America's Old West, the Arab world, etc.
I think the cattle he's taking back from the tinkers at the opening scenes were Montrose's. One of the ways he earns a living is by thieving as well as returning cattle (the comment that he's a famous riever and retriever). He took a steer or two before returning them because his people were hungry, and noted that the tinkers could have eaten a few, instead of just one.
Liam Neeson sounds Northern Irish no matter what movie he is in.....Jessica Lange has invented a new accent entirely.,,and the non native Scots speakers make fundamentall errors like rolling the "arrrr" way too much or pronouncing "t" in the middle of words...like "ScoT-TIsh"...and the put so much emphasis on the T sound when in actual fact that's the opposite of what you should do,,,it should be "Sco-ish"....no "T" sound at all unless its the beginning of a word
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I love the writing in this movie. Every single character has incredibly elegant speech.
A great script, extremely well directed and acted. Love this film.
I've Always remembered that great line from John Hurt (delivered snidingly brilliantly) to Tim Roth's character Archibald Cunningham and I've been waiting years to be able to say it to someone at the right moment. Lol. " You have a keen grasp of the criminal mind" I can still hear John Hurt sneering voice saying it..Class. r.i.p.
Such colourful dialogue that really tickles the poetic funny bone... and I love that Rob Roy, who the Marquis Montrose would suspect to be far beneath him in intelligence, is shown as being more than able to match him in conversational skill. My praise and thanks to the scriptwriter(s). ^_^
@@midgeburleigh5694 The best line was "... even tho plowed frequently, her field was such that no seed could find purchase" or something to that effect, describing that the Queen did not produce an heir.
Yes...i agree....the initial Archibald-Guthrie duel scene is priceless
'Well, you are to be congratulated on such cheaply bought nobility." Such a great line, delivered so well.
It's an very underrated film.
yes, true- the delivery is superb Rob: "when my word is given it is Good." Montrose: " eye rolll- yesss." love it; never get tired of seeing it.
an?
John Hurt is a masterclass actor
I don’t know what that line means. Please tell me.
This movie deserves to be repeatedly shown. So many great lines and great acting to savour.
you ought to be congratulated on such cheaply bought nobility LMBO, this move is untouched by other movies and full of the best lines and delivery of them for sure.
@@dmmusicmusic "Aye, the sentiments of a great many of us!"
Love the dialogue in this film, exquisitely written
Brian Cox managed to squeeze himself into both this and Braveheart great actor and the original Hannibal lector
Pat Gogan Since it was released in the same year, I do often wonder if he did his scenes at the same time or his Braveheart scenes in pickup days. I presume his shots were left till nearer the end.
Manhunter's legendary.
And he's in 'Troy'. All epic historical tales.
An d Jason Bourne II
And Super Troopers
"I knew your father. An able man if not a wise one."
What I love about this movie is how they fling harsh insults at one another without cursing even once.
Which is completely unrealistic. Have you ever been to scotland? No you need not to answer such query, for your barren utterance bares no fruit of thought.
@@nepntzerZer Why think you does my observation merit such hostility?
@@nepntzerZer lol he never said it was realistic. He just he likes how they insult eachother without cursing. U just wanted to show everyone how smart u think u are
Dissing a rich dude you're trying to borrow money from is the height of stupidity, but I guess Rob Roy was supposed to be courageous, not smart!
That’s how they did it back then i imagine. :)
As much as I like Liam Neeson in this film, he is absolutely outclassed by John Hurt and Tim Roth. They just stole every scene they were in.
Tim Roth was so good it was all about him. One of the best villains ever
John Hurt and Tim Roth were magnificent in this film.
Liam neeson held his own
We can appreciate one without diminishing another.
@@setsunaemblemyes please. Why not just say they were great ?
John Hurt is absolutely brilliant as the Marquis.
Lines brilliantly delivered with intelligence and panache by John Hurt.Liam Neeson also very good.Those two were real class..
No doubt
And Tim Roth was a really good bad guy.
Braveheart overshadowed Rob Roy for me back in 1995 but now that I've grown older this movie has won me over with the performances and the writing. John Hurt is delightful with his line delivery and mannerisms and Tim Roth is equally good as Cunningham.
Hurt must have been in the top 10 % of present day actors ,I don't think I ever saw him play a bad part.
RIP John Hurt
I just read the news.. it's terrible...
Indeed...
Deusirae79 - in deed....John Hurt RIP.....James Graham, the Marquis of Montrose, on the other hand, can rot in Hell.....
AYE.
John Hurt will be missed.
Aye.
Your the bull your the bull your the bull a pure legend rip
indeed for this part at least, no one could best him. tone mannerism, eyerolls included, sheer genius.
Was confirmed by his father.
He was a pure masterpiece in this movie! I see John as his character
This film needs more recognition then it deserves. The acting and script and the plot are up there with the best. I have never seen such a brilliantly directed movie get such an under average rating. Probs due to Braveheart being out the same time but it’s totally different type of movie
Yes, Braveheart was a great action movie, but Rob Roy was classical art!
This was a brilliant movie and the they were all quite brilliant actors, actresses - But, there's something about John Hurt's style that mesmerizes me.
Very classic style of acting he was an amazing talent
@@patgogan7324 Best movie he ever did,..Just perfect
There was no one like him.
Tim Roth was way better in this film. But in general Hurt was just about the best actor ever
Three of some of the greatest actors of our lifetime on the screen here in this scene, what a great movie and very memorable once you seen it.
Such a dark and brutal film and yet brilliant !
It follows the days that were dark and brutal.
Unlike England, Scotland was still quite a feudal place before 1747 abolished heritable jurisdictions. That kind of thing ended in England by around 1500 with the abolition of "livery and maintenance" by Henry VII.
And that abolition was a direct result of the second Jacobite rising in 1745.
Awesome cast. John Hurt, Liam Neeson, Brian Cox, Eric Stoltz, Jessica Lange, Tim Roth
20% interest is considered "kindly." Damn that's rough!
Yeah, 50 pound interest on top of the principal being returned. Even if this all went according to plan, that's a huge charge. Talk about usury!
@chrisutubeism
"1,000 pound for three month."
1000 * .2 * 90/360
Usury? Oy Vey!
And for three months only! In modern terms, that an effective rate of 60% per annum.
It’s decent enough, given the details. Rob takes the money, buys cattle, sells them for a massive profit and pays back the Marquis in one go. It’s a big loan but it’s very short term, so there’s an argument to be made that the Marquis needs to see a better return for it to be worth it to give the loan.
Genuinely fine performances from three Great Actors.
Love John Hurt's accent in this movie.
Think it's based on a very well spoken accent of the well off from the west coast of my country. A lot of slave trading.
@@Kelly14UK sure he's a scot who favors english rule. Dresses and speaks like english nobility.
@@harryhoffer9804 The West End of Glasgow has many a hill leading from the city centre. Bothered them not. They had Black slaves hauling them up methinks.
Disgusting.
@@harryhoffer9804 That's true.We have plenty down south
@@harryhoffer9804 he speaks nothing like English nobility.
This movie ...it ticks bcos to John Hurt and Tim Roth....the wicked brutal sarcasm and wit delivered by a sharp tongue is better then that final duel..
Totally agreed!!!
"Or as you prefer to frame it - a member of my household?"
Such a great movie. It seems that these gems are very rare these days.
What a treasure John hurt was, absolutely exquisite
The dialogue in this scene is so sparkling and of the time. It's exactly like something Defoe or Pope would have written.
And how know ye of such matters, knave?
And it sounds genuine, not just sprinkled full of 'ye olde English' terms hollywood style
The gifts of John Hurt in this scene. Great film and story.
John Hurt was the greatest actor in the English language.The man was literally a cameleon,he could make one's mind believe that he WAS the character he was playing.
Even when an alien is exiting his abdomen.
I’d say 2nd best after Tim Roth
@@TheGreatestVoice1958 Compare their respective careers
@@davidsimpson9647 And what exactly is that supposed to mean? Both actors have/had incredible careers filled with amazing and amazingly diverse performances.
I'd put a couple dozen more in the mix including Alec Guinness, Humphrey Bogart, Charlton Heston and Peter O'Toole.
John Hurt in this is the embodiment of passive aggression in human form
These acres of yours is security.
And my oath ➡️ McGregor's claims that his credibility is also security..
But his lordship's face is telling like "whatever..." epic🤣🤣
But that was just negotiation and posturing. Because of course, a man having an earned reputation for keeping his word reduces the risk of anyone lending money to him, reducing the lender's leverage for demanding a higher interest.
Maybe one of the greatest actors on the face of the planet, Hurt has played everybody to everyone. Even played a hitman in a Terence Stamp film, same era he played the vulnerable Winston Smith. Ever seen him do Caligula in I, Claudius? On top of that he played Jesus for Brooks. How's that for contrast?
Now here's he doing a posh Scottish accent befitting some Hutchy Grammar teacher in Glasgow. He even did narration work, with one of the most distinctive refined, gravely voices the women must have loved. He was from Derbyshire in the English Midlands.
He died in 2017 aged 77, and one of my favourite performances was as the hapless fibber Timothy Evans, a true story.
His accent in this sounds English to me. Like his normal voice.
@@TheGreatestVoice1958 It's absolutely nothing like an English accent.
@@trebleking1641 Beg to differ
Probably my favorite John hurt movie and performance is “CHAMPIONS” incredible film and an inspiring true story, check it out 👍
John Hurt was excellent as the arsehole Montrose.
John Hurt was a master. RIP.
Top class acting right there
I know some will disagree but I think the Marquess of Montrose's rather snide opinion of Rob Roy's "honor" and skepticism about his paying back the loan without security is understandable. Rob Roy MacGregor admits he stole cattle, though he denies he ever "reeved" cattle placed under his protection. That is an admission that he is a thief and someone who sells protection, plain and simple. Cattle rustling and selling protection were common in Scotland at the time but not one of us would loan money to someone who is an admitted thief, so why should Montrose do the same without securing collateral? And the "I'm poor and forced to do these things" excuse falls flat when you consider he has 300 acres, a VERY considerable land holding for the time in his name. I doubt few of us in the Marquess's place would not also be skeptical of this man's honor, even if he is the hero and protagonist of this movie.
In Scotland the peerage title is spelt Marquis not Marquess.
@@ds1868 I didn't know that. An artifact of the Auld Alliance with France perhaps.
@@IrishCarney It only applies to titles before the Union in 1707. It is originally a continental title and the Scots simply used the French spelling. From 1707 all marquessates in the peerages of Great Britain and from 1801 of the United Kingdom are spelt Marquess in the Letters Patent.
John hurt , worth watching the film for him alone , Tim Roth also . the film itself is a bit of a curates egg , good in parts , the good parts always contain Hurt and Roth . the interchange between Argyll and Montrose and the swordplay and mannerisms of Cunningham make this a most enjoyable movie.
jOHN hURT'S bestAND THAT IS A bold STATEMENT,.bUT true
Have to agree. Seen this film countless times. John hurt is on fire in this
Couldn't agree more with you Pete. Probably the best performances ever by both men.
The Outro music is always entirely too loud!
especially annoying after a scene which (unlike this) involves tragedy or suffering
More like volume in the actual clip is too low
To know one's place, McGregor, in the order of things is a blessing. Ha ha such an aristocratic man...
The common people of Scotland in these times were persecuted by the landowners. They were forced into their actions by extremely harsh taxation from the local landlord e.g. Montrose.
Then ontae bliddie Culloden 28 years eftur aw this. Glad that fat baisturt Cumberland died afore he wis 50. Karma. 😆
@@Kelly14UK although most of Cumberland's soldiers were Scots regiments in 1746
I wouldn't be surprised. Braveheart. Brilliant stuff ( albiet Gibson buggering around with the facts). But it progressed into more complex politics.
Same happened in England after the break from Rome
Nobility robbed the church kicked the peasants off the land, they starved to make way for wool
Acting is superb
John Hurt stands out among a great cast.
Killearn's coat buttons up over a number of other responsibilities.
lol if you know you know
😂😂😂😂😂
If it wasn't for his bastard, he would have been 200 pounds richer.
how much was 200 pounds back then?...how many castles could you buy for that?
How much was that back then is very hard answer to give. The differences between today's money and then are too great to make a comparison. However a year's Salary could be round 60 pounds as a cattle farmer. A pair of Flintlock pistols would cost round 3 pounds 15 shillings, and 3 pence ( there is a bill of sale in the Kelvingrove Museum Glasgow ) . You could not buy 1 castle with 200 pounds let alone how many castles.
For three months, wouldn't it be 50 pound sterling?
Mr Hole If the last commenter is correct, 3/4 of a year’s salary for someone like McGregor. That is, of course, if McGregor was typical. The terms offered seem to suggest otherwise.
An honest man doesn't give his oath readily, and holds value in a man's oath.
A liar does give his oath readily, and holds no value in a man's oath.
Well said, and that's why everyone should take care not to give their word hastily, if they do indeed wish to behave in an honorable manner.
Consider carefully as to what and to whom you give your word. And if there is any hesitation within that feels you won't be able to deliver on said promise, or you feel the person you may give your oath to might take advantage of it, then it is best not to give it.
"When my word is given it is good." I always say that when people doubt I'm Going to do something.
My wedding colors:
#1 Black + black cherry
#2 Silver + diamonds
#3 Pink-champagne gold
It's called "Victory Morning!"
Who do channels like this NEVER balance their audio?? I had to turn the volume right up to hear the clip from the movie, only to be absolutely blasted by the outro. FFS
If you want to piss off Lord Montrose, just keep talking about your honor.
hahaha
😂
Indeed. Such a man despises that which he cannot buy, and through his own character can never hope to have! The way Montrose conducts himself means that, despite his wealth, he will always be regarded as a bastard in society. Rich yes, but still a complete bastard!
Great theater...priceless
Question:
Montrose knew Cunningham is his bastard. But did Cunningham know Montrose is his father? Cunningham told Betty he doesn’t know who his father is. On the other hand, you think he would’ve guessed.
Uriel Martinez I'm pretty sure that Cunningham is Montrose's nephew.
Unless of course there was some Lannister situation going on.
Lang Hansen The use of those words does, yes.
However, that doesn't necessarily mean that he was.
I remember Montrose referring to his mother as his sister.
It goes like this when you go for a home loan at Bank of America
hahahahaha, you made me laugh out loud!
epic comment
I like how Rob Roy honors the title and not the Man.
I always hear Aragorn from the animated Lord of the Rings when I hear John Hurt.
Interesting; didn't know he had that part
Same.
It's this type of social and economic disparity that made the New World so attractive. A person could arrive in the Americas and leave the aristocracy behind at the waters edge
The ugliness once again rears its head; new money is not so different from old (world) money.
And not just that, he was able to take advantage of the shortage of labor to gain good wages, and the availability of land to own his own land rather than be tenant to another.
And it seems there are people in the US intent on returning to a feudal and aristocratic society.
Brilliant movie
20% interest? Awful. Watching this reminds me of the contemporary problem of being a working student.
+aburg10s
You can thank government Pell Grants for that.
In that time period I thought is was illegal to charge interest on a loan of money and they were still using tally sticks. Usury is a sin.
I thought he was saying 20% of the profits from the cattle sold. Basically, 1000 pound loan that will be repaid in full plus 20% of all profits on the cattle raised and sold. So not really interest, but profit for Lord Graham.
The "Tower Loan" of the Victorian era.
@@Lieutenant_Dude
A fifth of 1,000 Scottish pounds! McGregor's profit doesn't matter at all.
So arrogantly turns his back on him thereby dismissing him..
😂😂😂😂
300 acres? That is barely one decent sized cow paddock
Did someone fail to do their homework there? Even 3000 acres wouldnt make RobRoy the successful baron figure they are claiming here...
Aprox one half square mile
@@Henrys473 yeah it's ridiculous. That's almost yelling distance to a neighbour, a small farm that a broke farmer has.
If he was supposed to be some wealthy successful cattle and land owner he would have had much more land than that.
A great Lord or a petty money lender ? Or a petty Lord and a great money lender ? Or just petty ? At least he talks like a poet. Entices me almost to liking him. Almost that is, your Lordship.
Not like a poet but like a well educated man of the time.
@steve gale Being a cattle/sheep rustler at the time was very normal in Scotland. As for being a coward, didn't he lead men into battle multiple times? I never knew MacGregor was a rapist either
@steve gale You may well be right. Most accounts of his life I read about indicate that he was far from a man to shy away from battle. Voluntarily entering two Jacobite rebellions is far from cowardly, especially considering how Clan MacGregor had been treated in the past.
This movie routs the Blustering William Wallace one
Great movie.
3 great actotsvin one Room.
It's odd that people evoke this feudal society as being un some way heroic.
I have State Farm insurance. I can guarantee you State Farm does not carry Archibald Cunningham insurance.
sadly movies this great are no longer of interest to be made by modern Hollywood.
Smug, arrogant, aristocratic nobleman contemptibly insults commoner whilst at the same time acquiescing to the terms of his request of a loan.
lousy volume. looking for scene somewhere else.
none better than john hurt
@01:20
Correct me if I'm wrong,
but I'm a little confused here:
Is Montrose asking MacGregor (in an overly-pompous & fancy way) if there is any truth
in Kilern's report that Rob-Roy had, in times past, stolen Montrose's cattle from him...
...and Rob-Roy answers by saying that he had, indeed, stolen cattle before
but he had never stolen any cattle that were placed directly in his care
(and, thus, half-way expects Montrose to trust him with his cattle)...
..is this not so??
Montrose wasn't asking if he'd stolen cattle from him, just in general. Outlaws and cattle-rustling were common as a result of poverty, and even viewed as heroic by many of the common folk who hated the rich aristocratic money-lenders. MacGregor's ability to defend and retrieve cattle made him useful, and having a reputation for never betraying the trust of an employer usually outweighed past deeds or whatever extracurricular activities one got up to on someone else's lands.
@@Murchad99 More broadly, Scotland, like Ireland, had a deeply ingrained tradition of cattle raiding. Herd animals have the great advantage (to thieves) of being able to move on their own as directed, rather than, like grain or gold, needing to be carried. This created a culture of raid and counter-raid, undermining the ability of a central authority to retain and grow wealth to exert control, in turn making family ties and honor feuds all important. Similar dynamics emerged in America's Old West, the Arab world, etc.
I think the cattle he's taking back from the tinkers at the opening scenes were Montrose's. One of the ways he earns a living is by thieving as well as returning cattle (the comment that he's a famous riever and retriever). He took a steer or two before returning them because his people were hungry, and noted that the tinkers could have eaten a few, instead of just one.
control
It was a well scripted film. But Jessica Lange was miscast in this film. That hurt the overall feel of the movie. As I see it.
Call no man lord, it is blasphemy
This arrogant aristocratic class is alive and kicking in the UK, they have good PR these days though.
JOHN HURT was great in I CLAUDUS ….
I spelled Claudia wrong probably still misspelled it 😂😂😂😂
the Wandmaker is one of the few actors on this film that actually get the accent, of an upper class Scottish person, correct.
Liam Neeson sounds Northern Irish no matter what movie he is in.....Jessica Lange has invented a new accent entirely.,,and the non native Scots speakers make fundamentall errors like rolling the "arrrr" way too much or pronouncing "t" in the middle of words...like "ScoT-TIsh"...and the put so much emphasis on the T sound when in actual fact that's the opposite of what you should do,,,it should be "Sco-ish"....no "T" sound at all unless its the beginning of a word
Who is the wandmaker?
JOHN HURT!..have you never seen Harry Potter?
@@studmalexy nope
its a pity that ALL these clips from this source are extremely LOW.................figber out m8, normalize them and 0Vu..................
shouldnt have put up with that bullshit since the beginning
A better movie than Braveheart...this holds up well. The latter does not.
The great John Hurt.