Disaster in India | Boeing 737 Crash | Asleep at the Controls | Air India Express Flight 812 | 4K
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- Find out why this Boeing 737 crashed after overrunning the runway in an attempt to land in Mangalore, India.
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I've received so many requests to recreate this accident. So here it is, hope you'll appreciate my work and thanks for watching! 😊😊
Thanks a lot man, I really appreciate!
As always great video. Can you plz make a video on Air India 747 flight 855
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Wow, 1 week later you earn about 17k sub, that's fast
SMB 226B, very fast, actualy.
TheFlightChannel keep your work dude I like your vid form first time I see your vid
it makes me so upset that the pilots sometimes forget that there are HUNDREDS of people's lives behind their backs
Do they not forget that- what makes you think they forget?
@@alenabrown4249 He forgot because he was asleep!
@@ABC_DEF I get that he fell asleep. I understand that loss of life happened. A lot of accidents happen because people fall asleep. We require rest, but we live in a world that doesn't respect that basic need very well.
These industries are exhausting, and expectations are very high. I imagine in places where regulations aren't as good as we have here it can be even more body stressing. Idk if he forgot or not, I just know that falling asleep is not always voluntary. And maybe he didn't forget. Either way- people have perished, and that is very difficult to absorb.
Love still reigns. Peace and blessings!
I completely respect your position; I was only wondering how you knew.
@@alenabrown4249 The pilot was rushing to land instead of taking the safer option which was to "go around" -- meaning skip the landing he was planning, circle and get the plane in a better place and then land (which would have taken longer). He took the shorter, risker option instead. The implication of that comment was that pilots sometimes make risky decisions when they shouldn't, because it isn't just their lives at risk... they have passengers. They should always take the safer option. They weren't implying that he literally forgot he had passengers.
BTW, it makes no difference in the responsibility if you have 1 human behind, or 300. The responsibility is the same. It’s same as pregnant, or dead. One cannot become „more pregnant“ or „more dead“. As a pilot you are responsible. That’s it.
One can forget that, or one can be less aware of that. But the responsibility remains.
My instructor always told me,”you never lose points for going around”.
Great instructor👍🏼🙌🏼🙏🏻🌸
Maybe we should gain points for calling for a go-around when there is any problems that don't let everything line up JUST RIGHT. We can call it the Goldilocks credit!
Everybody is a goddamn pilot here. Fakers, one slap you need haa
@@CynthiaSchoenbauer no.
you aren't a pilot so stop@@TheImpersonater
I’ve only experienced one “go around” in all of my years flying as a passenger. At the time I didn’t think anything of it, but after watching enough of these videos I feel like I should have hugged and thanked the crew for their good judgement as I was safely stepping off the plane.
What exactly 'go around' means?
@Makaveli oh, thank you.
me too on an emirates a380
I’ve done quite a lot , my instructors insisted always , to do this in several airfields .
I experienced go around after touching the runway in a Kingfisher airlines flight in Hyderabad airport back in 2011. That was my last flight, after that I never got into a plane, I always travel by my car.
We've got captains who land airliners with situations like engine failure.
And then we have captains like this.
There are captains who calmly land airliners with holes in the sides. There first officers who calmly land airliners with the captain hanging out of a hole where the left windshield once was. There are captains who carry out water landings. And then we have this good ol' boy.
we have captains like gaurav taneja also we have captains like this..!!
@@Ea-Nasir_Copper_Co there was even a "landing" where all the controls of the plane failed. They managed to maneuvre the plane to an airport using nothing but the engines to control the plane.
@@salocin3114 united 232, they did everything to land it, and ended up saving half the people, hero pilots.
@@rishavpaudel5021 fan kaha hain? 😂
when i wake up from a nap, i check my phone. when THIS GUYS WAKES UP HE NEEDS TO LAND A PLANE
Yeah, such tragedy although your quip is comforting
Fuck
@@gerlynybanez8752 no
For real tho
So maybe he needed to be aware of his duty and wake up a bit earlier and keep his ego aside
I’ve lost one of my childhood friends in this flight who was one of the crew members in this flight..May they all rest in peace
So sad for you 😢
Renata Fox well that happened looong long back
Sorry for your loss sir.
🙏😔
You really feel for the innocent victims and their families that have no control or idea what's going on in some of these accidents. Or to realize at the last moment that death is imminent.
The fact that the FO and even the plane itself tried giving multiple warnings but the sleepyhead had to do it his way, this is all on him honestly.
just imagine crashing a plane because you did not get enough sleep. Criminally negligent
Serbia pilot numba 1 😂
It’s so simple. Introduce a rule that says that a plane should always go around if either pilot calls it. Both have to agree on a landing , any discord and you go around. Period. That rule obviously doesn’t exist. Why?
Well, it actually exists in modern airlines, but i guess in India, they are conservative to hierarchical structures, which means the captains word is LAW i guess...
than they should get rid of the captain and first officer statuses right ? being captain presumes that his word overrides the FO but if the FO can order the captain around than what’s the point of being captain
Brian M It’s the captains job to persuade the FO that it’s safe to land , if he can’t do that then it’s not safe to land. Nobody is talking about anyone “ ordering people around” . Instead of overruling his FO , a good Captain should seriously ask himself why his FO is not happy about the landing. The FO should be there as a safeguard against errors. If not then why is he there?
Going around is not a disaster. Crashing is. It’s like the golden rule in driving or pulling out at a junction. “ If in doubt don’t “
you deserve to be on The NTSB Board or Civil Aviation Board
I've watched enough of these to sense some of these captains have big egos and I wouldn't be surprised if a captain will still try to land even after an F/O disagrees.
It was not sleepiness, it was arrogance...
It was Gods plan
+ Doug Winter ... You really are a dickhead.
@@martinwebb5588 he was being facetious...there is no God.
@Jim Kirk true. I agree
@@O-oo3uu You Can Have Your Own Beliefs, Whether It Includes Religion Or Not, You Narcissistic Nuisance...
Its amazing how the mistake of 1 person can cost so many their lives. Going around would have cost them a few extra minutes but they would all be alive, but because the pilot thought "he could do it" no doubt he isn't among the 8 surviving people. This is heartbreaking and the co-pilot tried his best to avoid a disaster.
Absolutely agree with you. My father used to say: It's better to loose 1 minute of your life than your life in a minute.
@@javierfernandezdeprado2520 very good expression.
Applies to the road too.
There’s a sign on the highway not too far from that airport…..”Better to be Mr. Late than Late Mr.” Certainly applies to this flight. What a tragedy. I landed there several times, decades ago, and it was always jarring to see the plane go from blazing fast to standstill in seemingly about 10 seconds time. An experience unlike any other landing.
this happened in my hometown of mangalore i was 13 back then, i still remember this painful event like it was yesterday, the whole city of mangalore was in utter shock.
Wanna know something? They would be better if the CPT was still sleeping. FO would go around and save everyone.
CPT would have his career terminated right after he safely jerked the airplane went around then landed that plane Even the PILOT was wrong thing did not work that way in the air
Apparently.
Right. . . I want to hit that CAPTAIN head hard enough so the FO can do his wonderful job. 😭
I know right!!
Daniel Souza roger that!!
The FO was more qualified than the Captain... :(
Easy Solution that why you tell atc your attempting a go around and the clear the way for you
@@subhajeetchowdhury6735 Are you stupid? You sound as arrogant as the captain of this flight.
It seems the Captain underestimated the decision of d first officer thinking himself having more flight hrs....or he might also have had sleep inertia as told in d video clip ...God bless the souls of those passengers and crew who lost their lives ....🌸🌸🌸🌸🙏🙏🙏🙏
Subhajeet Chowdhury etc or also, pick one. Neither really make sense with the nonsense you’ve said though.
@@subhajeetchowdhury6735 A missed approach procedure is very detailed and does take into account other aircraft entering /exiting the terminal control area (TCA). Here is an example of a missed approach procedure and the conditions under which they can be applied -www.skybrary.aero/index.php/Missed_Approach
It has to be at least 35 years ago, but we were trying to land in Kansas City in a thunderstorm. As well as I can remember it, we seemed about 30 seconds from the runway and flew into a downdraft and it felt like the bottom of the plane had fallen out. The next part is very clear - full throttle and we flew right through the length of the runway at about 500 feet, maybe lower? We slowly climbed through the turbulence and went around. We all talk about the skills of pilots and I'll forever be grateful for this particular crew.
Well that sounds like fun...
Me, yelling at all those videos like it's going to change the fate: JUST GO AROUND MAN!!!!!
I do NOT yell at the TV for sports because that's dumb, this though I'm all 'c'mon man, why would you even TRY to take off with so little runway'
So I am actually giving my life in hands of a complete stranger every time I board a flight and that stranger could be an arrogant lunatic or even suicidal.
Apparently so! Safest way to travel my friend lol...
You kinda do the same when you board an Uber.
That's y i planned to not take flight in my lifetime... I boring my life at home rather than travel...
Put your faith in Jesus Christ and worry no more.
You put complete trust in the pilots when you fly a commercial airliner.
Ultimately Captain's ego and arrogance lead to this disaster..
Another captain's arrogance was partially responsible for a horrible plane collision between a KLM airliner and a Pan Am in 1977
so typical
Sad but true.
Yes, Captain was hard headed, but not due to sleep inertia.
@@lindaeasley4336 no, the case was completely different then.
I had an experience at DXB when EK had to cancel touch-down & go-around at just about 100 feet from ground. I felt very bad then, as I had a connecting flight to catch. I profusely thank those pilots now.
Another Air India Express Crashed at Another tabletop runway Today, In Calicut , India, Nearly 10 years after this, RIP to All.
Malappuram dstrct
@@myidmywish Its not malappuram
To add.... Another boeing 737
Preliminary findings of this crash indicate the pilot touched down 1,000 metres (3,300 feet) beyond runway threshold, in wet conditions, and was thus unable to stop his aircraft before the runway ended. He had enough fuel to divert to another airport. This crash would seem to be due to pilot error.
Probably the most preventable and unnecessary crash to date.
So sad.
@A Frustrated Gamer Wait, what was that last one?
Also don't forget the Three Idiots from Saudi delaying emergency procedure (i.e. landing and evacuating) when the plane was on fire.
Watch the Saudia incident, plane on fire, landed safely, pilot took forever to stop, did not order evacuation, so sad :(
@A Frustrated Gamer Pakistan Airbus crashed at margalla hills due to captain's fault
That the Autopilot system did"nt pressurize the cabin in that Helios flight in 2005 when flying at 28,000 feet because a technichian forgot to flip an external switch back to idle after a test so everybody passed out was also very preventable
saudi flight 163 is the most preventable accident, all passengers and crews initially survived but the pilots delayed the evacuation, causing all to die due to smoke inhalation
I always have thought I was safe after the tyres touch the ground 😬
Nope, you're not safe until it's on the ground and not moving.
You're not safe until you are walking down the jetway.
It happened bcz of pilot's negligence if he would have listened to the control tower all those people woyld have survive. So what i m trying to say is that it all depends on ur pilots
Not when the pilot uses reverse thrust and then tries to take off again.
The saddest part is that if he had continued the reverse thrust, the aircraft may have been damaged, but a lot of lives would have been saved.
Wht.no
It’s so crazy to think that the seat you are given/chosen could decide whether you survive a tragedy like this.
I would sit near the back exit hatch and bring a parachute with me just in case
@@haider7866 you gonna bring a parachute on every flight? Lol good luck with that!
If there were Oscar’s for TH-cam videos, you would have an unlimited amount. Your videos are so EXCELLENT. The graphics, storytelling, music, flow of the story…just incredible. It’s like watching a mini-movie each time.
agreed he is great!
Watching these tragedies reminds me that sadly, as humans, we possess a never-ending supply of over-confidence and stupidity....
Yep over-confidence caused dogs not to have horns.RIP to those innocent people who lost their lives.
Dumbest remark I ever heard.
@@victorburton9499 because you don't want to be known as stupid.
@@kwnwrestler16 2nd dumbest remark I ever heard.
@@victorburton9499 yours is the dumbest remark ever in the history of remarks
Not a science student, nor a frequent flier, but when this was mentioned that the pitch was way higher than usual, it simply occured that no big deal, they can 'go around' and bring it to the apt height, but the Great Captain with thousands of flying hours and 16 landing experience on the same runway, couldn't agree for a simple procedure...
I have seen a lot of crash and flight failure videos, but this had the most stupid reason of all.
RIP the poor souls and the most I feel sorry for the First Officer.
Peace to all.
An arrogance to refuse to level the landing gear height by going around by an adjustment could have saved all the travellers.But the destiny of any one the passengers a telepathic quantum link of mind the Captain pilot with uncontrollable his mind.An enigmatic Telepathic link even Einstein refused to believe.
WHAT??? GTFO with your hocus pocus and mumbo jumbo bullshit...this is the science of aviation.
Its altitude (height) that is what you were meaning to say, not pitch...pitch is the angle representing a transverse (wingtip to wingtip) axis. Nose up or down in normal speak.
@@rickfeith6372 whats wrong with you. He already said he didnt know much details. Why bring mumbo here?
Bably
No. The most stupid reason was a child (15 yo) at the control of Airbus A310 in Russian Aeroflot line while travelling to Hong Kong. This TH-camr has this case here
His laziness and arrogance took the lives of innocent passengers. He treated his job like a laid-back government job where he can sleep at his job and still get paid well.
Vivek Babbar he was sleeping his at his sleeping time they have a period where they can sleep he was simply utilising that period
I don't know why everyone seems to assume that civil service jobs are cushy....I worked for the state for years.....HARDEST job I ever had...worked 8-20 hours of overtime every week for years without pay. They simply would not approve overtime. My job consisted of the secured housing for 420 families, I simply could NOT just walk away at the end of the day in good conscience without their needs being met. I'm NOT an anolmoly, everyone in my office was just as dedicated.
@@seateg12 Totally agree. It is the old school that behaved badly. Not these days. You have much more work now. People leave jobs and are not replaced for months and months, sometime over a year, leaving others to do their job and the vacant post work. I have been in that situation, where we worked out how much the council saved by not replacing staff, or delaying any replacement. That is a very old saying about Gov. Jobs that do not apply to todays workers. When I moved from a position, I was replaced by 3 full time staff, so it just shows how much one person was doing.
Yes like NYS union workers POS
@@gourishanker1199 not in the cockpit it was mentioned in the video ..the captain was well rested before he fell asleep
Aircrew can have lots of good training related to the need to work as a team, but when a Captain's ego takes over there's not much the FO can do. Is there any psychometric testing for pilots, at least when qualifying as a Captain? I realise that tiredness was a major factor in this crash, but the Captain's ego wouldn't allow him to suffer the potential indignity of a go-around. This was as much about a fatal character flaw as anything else.
I know this is an old comment, but I’d like to point out that Captain ego and unwillingness to cooperate was a huge issue and even caused multiple accidents in the past, so much so that airlines began a mandatory training program to ensure aircrew and cabin crew were on a more equal footing when flying. Flight crew were so afraid of correcting captains in the past that many planes crashed because of overconfidence or poor lapses in judgement. The Tenerife collision was a major incident that comes to mind
My friends mother died in this crash. We were one week away from our final exams in our first year of medical school.
If thats true im really sorry to hear that hope you pass your exams and become what ever you wnt
Thank you. We passed our first year medical exams (including my friend who ended up taking the exams 10 days following his mother’s death).
We have now graduated medical school and are currently in our medical residency.
All the best to you and your future endeavors.
That's really sad. Hope all is fine now. 🙏 I was just done with grade 10th when this happened.
Udit Ojha Thank you. All is fine now. We are in our PG now.
So sorry.
MORAL: Let the captain sleep till landing otherwise he will make everyone asleep forever.
Exactly my opinion too.
So true
That's not how it works bro
Facts bro
In this case foresure, the F/O could of landed the plane and the captain could of had a good night sleep in a motel bed ,but it is always easier to say after the fact, just wish sometimes the arrogance between captains and F/O, stop or F/O grow some balls and think of the safety if their cargo take control of the situation
Sounds like the PIA crash: Too high, refuse to do a loop, crash.
And exactly 10 years ago
no lesson learned here.
PIA did a loop and crashed on the second approach
Yes even on the same date exactly 10 years later
Slight correction: Too high, refuse to go around, attempt to land, touch down, only then attempt a go around, crash
"Wait, let's go around captain, i think we shouldn't land"
"haha airplane go wooosh"
What is funny in this?
@@englishguru8887 I think he assumed this is a video game controlled by a kid and the kid made a blunder.
no he's just calling the captain a dumbass
Just play FSX steam edition and ride hot air balloons at mach 4
Stupid captain... You were warned 3 times and still went with it, this is not a simulator this is no game, no second chance.. more then 100 people's lives are in your hands
Thanks for flying Mimi Time Airlines
but there so many chance for go around....stupid captain...
Chi Sam I doubt they think it is interchangeable and just accidentally used the wrong one. Chill.
Chi Sam Both your comments make no sense..
Chi Sam I wanted to give you a chance to maybe write a comment that either explains your other two comments and give them context or to now say what you wanted to say in the first place. Why are you being so rude? There is 0 need for you to be rude. And why am I stupid now? Chill.
The flight which killed my close friend's father, and lot many family friends who were coming back from Dubai to their hometown Mangalore.
It's been over 8 years, but I still remember that fatal morning 😖
Each time I go to the crash site I get goosebumps!
This day, probably I can never forget in my life.
My sincere apologies to you and all your friends family. I can't imagine what you are going through since I never had this happen to me. I will pray for you for some peace in your heart ❤
That’s as “pilot error” as it gets.
Co-pilot watched on while somebody else digging a grave for him... and everybody else!
Unfortunately there were a lot of bad decisions on the captains part beyond ignoring the fo... if he had just followed through with landing instead of trying to initiate a to/ga after touchdown, the plane would’ve stopped in time. It may have ended up in the arrestor bed, but everyone could’ve walked away and the ac been repaired
7:53 did anyone see the speed its 250 knots at 9000 feet under 10,000 feet there is like a overspeed thingy its like 260 knots or somewhat near
A left hook from the FO would have been appropriate action. Been done before, and everyone lived. I don't fly right seat, and yes, I have been jarred in the jaw, once, and it woke me up!. And we all lived happily after. That was 30 yrs ago, lesson never forgotten.
@@theseeker1237 - As long as it did not knock you out, all good here! :)
@@theseeker1237 - Captain to the First Office "if I am the Captain, then why are you the First Officer?" The FO answered back "I am here to hit you on the nogging if you don't perform." I agree!
Every First Officer's nightmare; your captain won't acknowledge a mistake and pride prevents him from correcting. Interestingly, the FO had more experience at this airport according to the video yet the captain was requested to land.
I believe the captain did have time to; correct his co piolet's mistake of flying too high and then land this plane safely on a shorter distance. These planes do have an incredible stopping distance, once landed full brakes on they can stop very abruptly. An experienced piolet would never sleep on decent in this terrain with his experience, things don't add up and I don't believe this was the outcome on all aspects, it deserved.
pilots are taught in training that if the captain is doing something that jeopardizes the safety of the aircraft, the first officer can seize control of the aircraft and declare the captain unfit to be at the controls (the reverse is also true)
gone are the days where the captain can crash the plane into the ground and theres nothing any other crew members can do about it
@@dcbeez5956 BLAMING THE CO PILOT for being too high! u muppet. the captain on final "suddenly" realises hes high and makes a 4000 feet per minute descent rate. you are a twat
@@mwbgaming28 How could the co-pilot seize control of the aircraft when the captain is flying the plane? There are 2 yokes. Does the co-pilot need to use more force on the yoke to cancel the captains control input or would he had to take out the captain himself to retake back control?
@@IliasJoels depends on the aircraft and the mental state of the captain
Assuming the captain acts professionally, the first officer can verbally state I'm taking control due to safety concerns, and at that point the captain must release the controls
If however, the captain is not acting professionally and refuses to release the controls, it can go a few ways
Airbus: the first officer can press the sidestick priority button to lock the controls to his side only, then the captain's controls won't work, he can also call in a member of the cabin crew to help if necessary
Boeing: the first officer will need to physically overpower the captain's control inputs since the control columns are mechanically linked, and again, he can also call in a member of the cabin crew to help if necessary
Its also possible that during the fight, the control column or its linkages may break, rendering the aircraft uncontrollable from one or both sides, though I have never heard of that happening
Too much pride and not enough sleep
Precisely!!
He is still sleeping. Still not enough? Umm
People are dumb as fuck in general
@DmY808 hehe really
@DmY808 LOL
I can't explain the shiver in my heart thinking of our beloved in it! being a Mangaloean and thinking of all those whom we lost!!
it boils my blood when people who are at the control of other people's lives don't take it seriously.
Your editing is so good. At the end of each video, when you sum up the investigation findings and alternate between text and slow videos of the plane still on air, it just breaks my heart. It feels as though the airplane could have been saved, as if there is a way to rewind and save those lives.. It feels like the airplane is still stranded up, somewhere, where everyone is still alive and nobody made any horrible decisions yet.. Anyways, thank you for your videos!
Still "stranded up somewhere"?!? Lol this plane was on the ground when it happened
@@justmissjamey maybe she meant before touching the ground or she meant they took off again for a go around..
wonderful expression..
@@justmissjamey She was talking about the videos in general, meanmouth.
Min I have often thought the same. 😿💕
Well the pilot is getting plenty of rest now. What a preventable waste. Sigh.
@Rainy J lol
The bible says in hell there is no rest day or night. He likely wasnt saved as most of the world isnt. If you want to get all of your sin pardoned and get eternal life guaranteed then hear this: th-cam.com/video/IXEeMWCxyrQ/w-d-xo.html
Sure about that are you?
@Rainy J It was a sarcastic statement, take your meds.
@@killout18 It was a sarcastic statement. Not a theological one, but thanks anyways.
It's coincidence that I am watching this in 22nd May 2020 (exactly after 10 years)
It was my birthday on the Pakistan crash
@@SiegeRock It was my birthday too 😊😔
svaisha aep / Aisha Aslam I know! I pray for the poeple
CosmicGaming My birthday was on the 30th anniversary of the Tenerife disaster...
At what point do you tell the Captain "I'm relieving you of command".
I guess that the copilot was expecting that the captain would come back to common sense.
@@pascalxavier3367 At the bottom of the gorge, I guess....
In this case, not sure at any point would've worked. Especially when our captain here (ironically)was the one, out of the two, certified to land at this airport.
@@bradwindhorst7010 Certified or not he could see the runway and could land the plane and had more common sense than the captain. When he was going to land the plane so far down the runway he should have taken control from the captain.
@@joebrunette5594It took me a moment to recollect this crash video. Yeah, it's just sad how it ended up. I've watched a few of these where the co-pilots fear of questioning their captains ends up being their demise.
"There was no conversation between the captain and the first officer in one hour because the captain was Asleep" :0
Had he stayed asleep things might have worked out better for all concerned.
What a non responsible Captain?
I was wondering if there was some kind of issue between the two pilots as to the lack of conversation.
@@WJack97224 yeah good question?!?
I blame the co pilot pilot asleep he could have reported him midair but he wanted to fly it and land it himself
One of the most asked questions on pilot interviews is: “if you see something is going wrong and you call go around but the captain doesnt listen to you... what do you do?” Even though the captain is clearly in the wrong here the first officer should’ve taken control after shouting go around 2 times or just push toga or push the captains hands forward on the throttle. You can always argue and discuss once safe on the ground but in that moment TAKE ACTION and dont be a sheep. In Asia there is still a big culture regarding the captain as an absolute god, you dont want to know how many first officers died flying into mountains because the captain wanted to commit suicide and they did not want to interfere or say something... they just sat there knowing they were about to die.
OLGMC isn’t that why Crew resource management was introduced? First officers should not hesitate if captain is doing wrong thing even after repeated warnings.
spot on
@@anitarastogi6536 CRM is a course that nobody sadly applies on board
Rana Tash Really? Most documentaries I watch say CRM has helped reduce mistakes in cockpits to a large extent ?! Or that is just superficial?
@SPIRIT DOT nah, just a very honorable culture where seniority and experience are respected above all else. Sometimes it goes too far though. Like in those cases.
I never understand why at the end of runways, they always seem to have rivers, embankments, roads, hills, or in this case, a damn cliff! Seriously?! Why don't they put some sort of area at the end that brings the plane to a stop in a safe way that doesn't damage the plane too severely.
Itz a tabletop airport....one of the 3 in India! That’s y only the captain is allowed to manoeuvre the landing process 💔
Maybe like a giant roll of
bubble wrap? Lol
Most airports have grass fields for this exact reason. Runways need to be bidirectional, where you can land and takeoff for either direction, so having a landing net would be problematic as you would have to avoid it on landing.
Runway concrete/tarmac is already very grippy, and so sandy runways would probably make the tires very hot from friction or shear them. Just no point.
Planes already have emergency braking and pilots should abort if they are not within the safety margins to land.
However, in this case, a tabletop airport on top of a hill would mean no space for a grass field, or sand area. This is why to land on these you need incredible precision, and pilots know this. Having a mechanism to stop the plane is useless if almost noone uses it and if the plane was going to overrun to use it they should go around. Pilot error was the reason this crashed, captain should have listened to the co-pilot, he knew they were not in the margins to land, but the captain never listened.
Very similar to how many people we killed in this crash (talking about scenario, not technicality), another crash has happened yesterday killing 17. Now I see that it's also falling from the table top that is killing people(more people). I think Table Top Taxiways needs to be done away with for heavy passenger planes in our country. It's a disaster waiting to happen every time. If the plane would have skided on a even taxiway disaster would have been minimal.
@@DreamCatcher-wg1bk rip to those who were died yesterday, kerala❤😭
Moral of the story : Grab the Yoke from your half asleep captain and yell as loud as you can "I HAVE CONTROLS!!!"
What's even more sad? The investigation also found that had aggressive use of reverse thrust and maximum manual braking been used the aircraft would have stopped within the paved overrun area of the runway. Furthermore, Boeing standard procedures state that reverse thrust should not be cancelled in an attempt to go around. In other words, once reverse thrust is activated stay committed to the landing by whatever means necessary. A sad revelation in the investigation was that snoring was actually heard on the CVR for the first and only time in history. If there was ever a cause for a mutiny, this was it.
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The FO should have awakened the captain long before they approached their destination.
abc agreed but who knows , give. What we e learned of the pilots arrogance , what instructions he pilot gave to the copilot before take off - I.e. dont wake me h TIL we descend for airport etc. Sad waste of life
BLACKMONGOOSE13 OMG that information you wrote in your comment does make it even more sad and just extremely frustrating!
One crazy incident happened after this incident. Approximately one hour later one survivor fell off the plane walked down hill and there is a railway track and he walked by and reached the nearest main road. And he called his family members who were on the way to airport and asked them to come to his place which was a small local town. And they didn't knew about the crash and asked him why would we come there you should be in airport right now. When he said the flight fell they thought he was bluffing. Whatsover they went there and shocked to see him standing near railway cross with his clothes torn and minor scratches
I thought for a moment you were going to tell us the poor sod got hit by a train and killed, but thank God no.
Why are you so particular about the railway track!! 🤔
@@VamsiKrishnaOliveti i was also wondering the same
If there's a video of this incident, some people might tempted to make a "thug life" jokes on it. What an a once in a lifetime experience!
Btw he's one of the 8 survivor? He must become such a celebrity at some point. If it was in my country, he'll be invited to many TV shows just to repeatedly telling his story......😑😑😑
Deja Vu. Similar incident happened today. AirIndia Express returning from Dubai.. crash landing
Yes, kerala😭😭
18 casualties
The difference is that it wasn't bad weather that caused the crash in 2010
@@shuhaibmohammed1391 21
Seeing these types of recreations makes me sad but most of all upset and angry. Those poor people died just because some pilot with an inflated ego or in a rush was the cause of the accident.
So you have a well functioning airplane, perfect weather conditions, enough fuel, approaching on schedule, all perfect conditions for one more routine flight, except jerk captain who thinks that he is above laws of physics. So stupid way to die. I am really sorry for all innocent people who died for no reason....
Airbus is better than Boeing for that. With an Airbus the pilot wouldn't have been able to do that because the computer limits the dangerous maneuvers.
"airbus is better than Boeing for that.................." Etc etc.
Except, one ended up in a forrest after having done a similar action to "Show off"...................
Must i present a link?
Another one crashed, because the other pilot did not know the other pilot was PULLING on the Joystick.
And Boeing, they have yokes which clearly indicate what the other one is doing. Since they is connected.
Another airbus thought it was doing the right thing. However some sensors were frozen.
That accident wouldnt have happened if it was a Boeing.
Computers. Invented to solve problems which we didnt have before they were invented.
And, the more they take over, the more problems we will have to face.
Now a days we have automatic braking in cars. And traction control. And all kinds of that shit.
Imagine a slippery road, a curve......................
You have acc.................. so the vehicle will slow down when it detects an obstacle.................
In a curve, wet roads and slippery conditions.........................
"Hi there, mr Tree. Say: Why couldnt you move a little so i would have passed you?"
Im sorry, but when a pilot knows how to fly, and knows his aircraft...............
That is much better in my opinion.
Take cars and safetygear onboard of cars.
Belts, airbags.
People think they drive a tank.
So they act like it.
Driving like crazy.
Head on collision, each going 50 mph.................... Both engines end up in the trunk of the other car............
And still people think belts and airbags is going to protect them from such.
So they drive like it.
The more we invent to "feel safe", the illusion which we create for ourselves, the more we will be in danger.
Excellent post, bertjesklotipino. I've watched so many of these videos where the pilots were made complacent with too much technology that I now use an acronym, FTFPYI (Fly the F**king Plane You Idiot). This pilot thought "SFP" meant his plane would do anything, until he found out the hard way that it wouldn't. We're already seeing the early stages of over-reliance on computers in cars with people dying in Tesla self-driving cars, or the pedestrian killed by the Uber experimental self-driving car.
M T, another reason why i say: Boeing or im not going.
Because of too much automation in those Airbuses.
When Billy Gates launched one of his Windows versions he was confronted with the blue screen and laughed.
I wonder what a pilot will do in the air when he or she is confronted with "the blue screen of death".
Mr M T.........
I can not agree, sorry.
The Air Singapore accident which you talk about is indeed another example of how people may make mistakes. Sure. It would however have happened with both planes, airbus or boeing.
I agree to the rest of what you have said, completely. But there is just one small thing that i can not agree with. And that is that you think we should stop kidding ourselves and move ASAP to full automation.
Computers have been invented to solve problems which we DID NOT HAVE before these computers were invented.
IF in a computer something breaks down, no way of recovery. You can ofcourse build in safety stuff, redundancy and what not................. But when the device thinks there is a problem, there is a problem.
And there wont be any way to land it IF we were to be fooled into thinking automation is the answer.
We as people are being restricted too much. We may not use our skills. And that is one of the biggest problems.
A skilled pilot may also crash, ofcourse. May make a mistake, ofcourse.
BUT: Working together, the chances have been reduced to the absolute minimum in my opinion.
The plane however needs to be designed that they CAN work together.
The test flight of an airbus went wrong, because some sensor was frozen or something like that.
THAT SHOULD NOT BE POSSIBLE.
The computer should ALWAYS have an OFF button.
But thats just my opinion.
Computers only solve problems which we did not have before these fucked up machines were invented.
Sure, they make things easier from time to time. And bla bla bla.
But just watch what will happen if one day all this shit just stopped functioning................. with an EMP or whatever. Or that the Internet stops functioning for a month.
Stores will be empty, everything will be fucked up, because we as humanbeings have become too stupid to not be able to work without these godforsaken pieces of shit.
But, thats just an opinion, compadre.
I am a great follower of Air crash investigation, but since I have discovered your channel I have realized that I have wasted so many hours plus having to listen to all the trash they provide on the program when your excellent work gives us what we need to know in less than ten minutes. I agree with everyone of your follower who think that you are great. My God how right they are. Keep it up mate.
Abdul Baggash
Me too, Sir. I am a HUGE FAN of Air Crash Investigation tv shows and videos by TheFlightChannel tops all their shows on TV. lol...
And miss Greg Feith? lol
I got here after the Air India Express crash yesterday.
Anyone here after, kerala plane crash aug 7, 2020😭
here
So sad new I am from Pakistan but this is news so heart teaching I am praying for 🙏
Yes !!! Same like this in Kerala 😔
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Me too
The Sleepy Captain Makes All Passengers To Sleep Forever🙁🙁
Everybody is blaming the pilot...
Because he was sleeping.
Nobody is thinking about why he slept... What about the politics behind it??
It's because this Cheap Airlines make pilots do much longer shifts for cost cutting. They fired many pilots and those who were retained were made to do double shifts!
+AeroManiac Well I don't know that anyone "deserves" an airplane tragedy, certainly not because of some inane comment on a TH-cam video. I DO know that your remark certainly proves the "maniac" part of your moniker.
@@aeromaniac471 You need some serious medical help to be thinking that someone innocent DESERVES to die in a plane accident. A very apt username Maniac.
At least they get to sleep in ground
@@aeromaniac471 cant believe someone gave a statement so immature and cruel and unfair like yourself. Nobdy deserves an accident just for statement in youtube comment, psycho. Get yourself checked and no need to get so worked up on just comments you loser
Never want to hear a Pilot say "OH MY GOD!"😲😲😟😟😬
The crazy part about it is the OMG moment occurred when there was adequate time to make a well-controlled go-around that most passengers wouldn't even have noticed. Was the captain facing some horrible consequence if he made a good landing after a second approach?
@@maxpenn6374 yeah every pilot should be calm like even a flight simmer can tell that go around and do it
@@maxpenn6374 that's what I thought too. Why is that an OMG moment when you have more than enough time (and fuel too I assume, no mention of any problems with that and also it is normal to have enough left for some more time) to go around and do it properly. It must have been an ego thing or something. I don't know why you can't just leave your ego outside of the cockpit. What good is a landing if you risked dying unneccessarily?
Yeah, or "I wonder what this button does?"
@@bradwindhorst7010 or "where is the airport"
10 years for today. RIP to all who perished...
Just how common is it for the captain to take a little snooze??! This terrifies me. I haven’t flown since 1998 and I have NO plans to ever go anywhere by plane again.
F/O:go around?
Captain:Nah I want to sleep ASAP so let's land this quickly .
he got his wish - only a more permanent kind of sleep
Thats right... He expect to sleep as soon as reach so he dont bother for a go around...
Pretty much sums it up.
I think , captain was more worried about explanation for go around later, so he wanted to just land it, so that there is no inquiry for his sleep
The situation isn’t funny, but this comment took me out! 😭😂
Summary: The captain pilot should have slept until after the plane was landed by its co-pilot.
the pilot monitoring is just as important as the pilot flying. For this reason both pilots must be awake during the approach
@@aarondynamics1311 You are right, but also missing the point. The F/O could have done a better job alone than with the captain.
The F/O might also ended up hijacking the plane as in the case of the German Wings.. Or failed to handle a stall and then crash the plane in Air France case. ☹️ Sigh. Rest in peace, all. 😭
Really weird that another plane crashed exactly after 10 years due to a high unstable aproach!!
In pakistan right
Same date as well if I'm not wrong. Shows you how much history can repeat itself.
Aside from details about the accident here, it's pretty amazing how the 737 has become such a legacy aircraft, not unlike the 747! The 737 has gone through many changes but they are still being built, with no end in sight for this venerable Boeing design!!
Now we can see the first officer like a hero. He save 6 lives with his position. Brave!
er no. The first officer should have stepped in and took the controls once he realised the captain was putting everybody in danger
@Aviskyer of course it is. If the first officer believes that the captain is putting the aircraft into danger he/she has to act. Sod getting permission to not die
@@Scott1433 I imagine the Scene: I say up! No, I say Down!! Up!!!! Down!!! Uuuuupppppp!!! (while pulling back the Yoke) Dooowwwwwnnn!!! (while pushing the Yoke forward)
Result: an exciting roller-coaster trip for the passengers, before dying.
It doesn't seem the Captain was going to accept that. It's not the way. CRM, CRM, CRM... Team culture..
Sounds like the captain was sleep walking, actually flying. What a shame!!!! All those people's lives lost. This was a really good video. Thank you for sharing.
Scary exactly a decade later same date 22nd may 2020 another plane goes down this time in Pakistan
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Yes a sad coincidence. This crash of Mangalore had been there. Its scary to see the aftermath. Charred to death on their seats.
for pretty much the same reasons as well (too high on approach, refuse to go around until AFTER touchdown)
@@bignavin10 never fly in may
When I fly, and the landing is smooth, I praise our Pilots afterward.....for their talent and integrity!!!!!
This as a few other crashes leaves me speechless, shake my head when it cones to experience pilots not making right decisions.
A Go-Around that could've save so many lives!
It is indian mentality for a captain to think he is god, another pair of eyes can evaluate a situation as well. Only when both Captain and Co-Pilot agree is a decision the best.
+TheMightyHarihar the captain in it wasn't Indian. Check the name.
Søpdu
I think the pilots dont want to perform go around due to heavy fatigue
I would think like that if my body is shit tired.
Yes, go-around requires back to altitude and getting vectored in again for a runway. You have to do the final approach again and it is embarrassing for some captains.
The captain was Serbian, not Indian.
It’s sad that so many innocent lives were lost due to the ignorance of Captain. May God bless the departed souls in after life. Love from Pakistan
Inshasllah
If only he listened...those people were landing to their homes to see loved ones. Tragic!
Moral of the story: Let sleeping dogs lie .
Those passengers would be alive had the F/O been in charge .
Wish I was the F/O. would have taken over from this jerk. No worry of the repercussions later.
Probably yes but the FO technically put them in the situation coming in way to high. I wouldn't want to fly with either of them!
Edgar Xavier there aren’t any repercussions if the FO wants a go around, he could have done it. But didn’t, he could’ve taken control of aircraft but probably left it to captain....alas
Ps. You have to go around if it’s suggested by either to the captain or FO to the captain or the officer..
Didn't it say the captain has to land there? So that would have to mean the FO never had. So the FO was in an impossible situation, I remember years ago certain airlines and even certain countries still had a very strict hierarchy in a cockpit, even tho that shouldve changed in the 80s / 90s - and they state they have changed - Maybe the FO didn't dare to directly challenge the captain? As someone pointed out, they were too high before the captain even took over, but that shouldn't mean a death sentence.
God bless them all.
So sad this happened. Having served in the US Air Force we keep hearing the "rules", out of which #1 is you can always go around, #2 never force an airplane to land, #3 flying VFR into IFR will get you killed 99% of the time, #4 crosswind indicators are there for a reason, and #5 airplanes fly themselves, we just steer them around.
Thank you very much for making this video and all others. It’s quite fascinating how talented you are. It is precisely accurate as to what happened before the crash. Just the facts that are associated with the actual crash. I feel such sorrow for all of the victims. What they had to endure is heartbreaking.
this was singlehandedly the most stressful video i have watched. such preventable action which could cause many lives saved yet the captains stubbornness and arrogance killed them. RIP to those who lost their lives on this flight. Lesson to hopefully be learnt
Education and qualification is not everything . You also need a smart brain to do your job.
Common sense would have worked just fine in this situation.
@@BlueRidgeMtns100 I think that's what they meant by "smart brain" was common sense because unfortunately not everyone has it...I don't know for sure though.
@@craycraywolf6726 I expect you are right.
Common sense
@@craycraywolf6726 you don't need to be very smart to have common sense... That's why it's called common
This is why they want you to keep your seat belt fastened even after touch down.
Kwnwrestler a seatbelt would have made no difference in this crash.
of course..the 8 people rescued would have still survived the crash with out the seat belt...this world is full of dumb people
I am from mangalore ! I will always remember this day .. its 22nd May today . And I am watching this today.. this is the worst day for every manglorean ! R.I.P to all those who died ! Always in our hearts .. black day for mangloreans
He was at 18,000 feet 25 miles out!!! An attempted landing even at that point was ludicrous.
How much further would he need to be out to just make it? At 18k feet how far would they need to be approximately?
@@helena8546 atleast 75 miles
Thank you very much for doing this video! I'm from the same city ie Mangalore where this Crash happened. One of the worst airline disasters in India. The whole city came to a stand still following this Crash☹️
According to reports, if they fully braked and dint try to go around after touchdown,the plane would have stopped before it could reach the airport boundary...
RIP to all the passengers who passed away. ..
damn couldn't even begin to imagine the terror the passengers must have felt upon touchdown.
EGO!! I think that’s the issue. The work you do on here is amazing. From the visuals, sound, information, and respect to the lives lost.
I have requested #theflightchannel to make this video.
Thanks a lot 😓😓
I am belongs to the same city(Mangalore) where this plane crash was happened.
my friend's uncle is one of the survivors (he jumped from the emergency exit door before the plane overshoots the runway.
Its 8 years now, end of many lives&dreams..😓😓😓
It is the worst aviation disaster in India
Edut : 2021 - 11 years
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watch this bro
This must be pin
The worst aviation disaster in India was the charkhi dadri midair collision involving a 747 and ilyushin in 1996
It would have been impossible to jump from the emergency door while the plane was still on the runway but I’m glad he survived
A similar thing happened with my flight from Dubai to Mangalore around 2 years ago. There was a storm which caused a lot of turbulence and really low visibility near the airport but thankfully the pilots were really smart and increased the altitude and managed to spend what seemed like 30-40mins going in circles near or above (not sure where exactly since you couldn't see anything) the airport before finally landing the plane safely. I'm so glad I got good pilots at that moment.
Mangalore airport is known to be pretty dangerous and I travel there every year so it's kind of scary to see this happen not to mention some of the victims used to live near my grandparents house there.
Also, another interesting thing I have realized is after this incident the flights going to Mangalore had really low altitude approach to the airport and touched down exactly where the runway starts, wasting absolutely no space.
It's similar to that of Russias and am grateful that you got great pilots .
Dynamic
So these airports are dangerous so why build them there, why not extend the runway etc. Seems like a cheap way out
@@coasteyscoasteys4150 extend the runway to where ??
There is a valley at the other end of the runway !!
@@user-xr4oj1pc6v
Build a platform extend it out. Do something think try. I'm sick of ignorance and money affecting Safety. Or move the airport.
@@user-xr4oj1pc6vis there also a valley on the approach side too?
That was a straight go around, no questions, my flight instructor always said when you've messed up the approach and try to force land a plane that's when you get hurt. I think the capitain was probably too scared of giving explanations to his company about the reason of the go around...cause he shouldn't be asleep during the approach, however the FO should be able to correctly land the plane even if the capitain is incapacitated...that is why there is a FO.
I found my newest binge watching with this channel. Thank you.
What a waste ... a simple go around and all live. Sad.
Well an attempted go around finally became the cause of the crash. The captain tried to do a go around 6 seconds after landing, which is against the procedures of Boeing 737 manual. It was later found that if he didn't try that they wouldn't have crashed
He could have applied extreme breaks instead of idiotic damn throttle. Nothing wrong runway was exhausted by metres all lives would have been saved. Pilot could have blamed some mechanical error to escape actions. Thug life
i already thought the same about that if the captain hadn't attempted a go-around 6 seconds after landing, the plane wouldn't have crashed.
@@fiucikmiselfo1922 Stats about safety in indian transports are appalling, mostly in trains
Ron Baruah So what you say proves that all of the captain's decisions/actions were wrong. In addition to that, the first officer should have done two important things:
- Wake up the captain way earlier, before starting the approach.
- Impose his own authority or should I say responsibility, and make the captain do the Go Around.
It's terribly sad to know how easily this accident could've been avoided.
First officer was right but captain ignore, a "go round" was the best option to prepare for another approach, which would have provides with them the best approach, but a captain murdered his passengers, though he took his life as well, r.i.p
If they captain had survived this accident, people would have killed him afterwards.
This crash really hits home. I have lost a dear friend of mine who went back to mangalore after finishing grade 12th in India for his higher education. And my friend lost his parents and sister who were travelling back to India, the only reason he stayed back was his exams after which he would go to india as well.
Being from mangalore, I have flown in this airport many times and have had experienced a couple of go arounds expecially during rainy seasons. Never rally thought of them until this crash happened.
Who’s here after the 2020 Air India crash?
Air India express not air India
@@NoOne-cw3wf they are the same thing
@@jeno5591 no,they have a lot of difference
@@redminote9pro866 air India express is also under air India,
Maybe at least not for this topic please, this "feeling alone with 69 others" shit 😑
The stubborn captain was yhe reason for this disaster. It was so unnecessary! R.i.p to everybody on board
Wait a minute!!! Are you the Big Fella from Australia? LMAO!!! I remember YOU, man... :)
Had nothing to do with inadequate rest. The FO warned him and so did the GPWS.
Yeah, but if he was groggy from his nap he may not have been in his right mind.
looks like he was rushing to go to a comfy bed
@@AkitaMix and that bed was his grave
Thank you for this detail to better understand what occurred ….I lost a good acquaintance and schoolmate who was on that flight with her parents…and I found it difficult to fly relaxed for at least a year or two after this horrible accident …may they and the passengers who lost their lives R.I.P 🕊
Hi. I am landing on the same airport and same runway.
This pilot had experience in landing in mangalore airport old runway which is smaller than the new runway which is double the size. But unfortunately after the inaugration of the new runway the incident happened. Sad to say I lost my friend in this crash. RIP
The Captain MURDERED those passengers. Co-pilot should had stepped it up he lost his life for it! Horrible and unnecessary tragedy.
Not that easy in an airplane. He would've probably had to subdue the captain which their would be no time. You can't just take over the controls if the other person isn't willing to let go, it's just gonna cancel each other out. Technically the FO put them in the situation coming in too high. Just go around, that captain had a major ego!
Lemmings refuse to defy reckless authorities to their own peril & the peril of countless others.
@@Mandy_39 The captain didn't want to lose his bonus. If they do the go around without any clear reasons of doing this (like bad weather, wind, snow, rain etc.) they get penalties and salary cut. So there was no reasonable reason for go around from the airlines point of view as the incorrect approach is the pilot fault and not a reason. So he just wanted to avoid being penalized..
Yes cold blooded murder with the knife of ego and arrogance.
Poor co-pilot had to die because of the pilot :((
It was the co piolet that made the mistake, he didn't follow flight plan decent instructions leaving the captain to try to correct under duress, although consider the captain took control, didn't request an emergency landing alert and the tower operations neither had concerns for the landing. It wouldn't take much for the co piolet to push that exelerator forward to deliberately increase speed and overshoot the runway? just an alleged cenario to reconsider. And something's suspicious about any captain sleeping in that terrain while approaching descent and that is; it would never happen allegedly.
@@dcbeez5956But he did tell the captain to go around three times, so he would have gone around if he'd still been flying the plane. The FO's mistake was in not waking the captain before they got close to the destination.
@@PrahladGTA not sure who your responding to, but I didn't make reference to a piolet correcting under duress. Regardless, this situation should never have happened and people want the truth about why it did?
@@dcbeez5956 Typical TH-cam air crash investigator. Push the 'exelerator'? WTF?
@@dcbeez5956 There was no duress. They should have done a go around. This is pure arrogance from the pilot.
Sleep inertia” refers to the transitional state between sleep and wake, marked by impaired performance, reduced vigilance, and a desire to return to sleep. The intensity and duration of sleep inertia vary based on situational factors, but its effects may last minutes to several hours
I am from Mangalore and I remember when this took place 10yrs ago . The whole city was devastated.