Tip: The bottom spring preload spacer is redundant and not needed. On CV forks it is required because the bottoming hydrostop does not feature a built in plastic preload spacer to prevent the steel spring from resting directly against the aluminum bottoming hydrostop.
Hi, nice video, thanks, I just bought the wp xplor pro 6500, and it is great video for self instalattion. I have a one question, I will use stock springs and which spacers I should use ? 0.5mm ?
Hello 👋 Thanks for watching and comment. Unsure. Ride JBI has not done any 7500 Kit installs yet so unsure if the process is identical. I do not believe it is.
Yes. The cartridges come assembled ready to ride with the base setting from WP. It’s a pretty good setting. Did a couple video reviews riding the base setting in moto and off-road.
Do you need to do this to the other forks aswell? Because on all picutres it shows that there's two cartridges, so one cartridge for one fork and other for second fork.
Hello and thanks for the message. 400cc is the baseline spec per the WP manual. Not implying that it is the optimal setting. Instead sharing what the info is from WP. The JBI Spec WP XACT 6500 fork builds have various oil volumes depending the rider and riding types. Common oil range used is 360-400cc.
@@RideJBI I have the Xplor Pro and the spec is 380 I believe and 340 seems pretty close to optimal for my riding. I'll be putting the Xact Pro on my new bike so thought I'd ask.
@@TeamStruggleBunny The length of fork is different between the Xplor Pro and the XACT Pro. Because the fork springs are different lengths, this affects the engagement point of the spring tube engaging the outer chamber fork oil when the forks compress. It is not accurate to compare oil volumes between the Xplor Pro and XACT Pro. 380cc in the Xplor pro is pretty much the same as 400cc in the longer XACT Pro fork.
@@RideJBI Understood. Just looking for an idea of experimenting with the XACT now that I have a bit of base line with the XPLOR. So far the Xplor on my '19 xcw are working great at about 340ml. Shortly I'll have Xact pros to go in my xc and will do some testing to see what works for me.
Hello 👋 Springs are provided by Ride JBI when purchased since this replaces the internals of the WP AER48 forks which don’t have metal coil springs and instead use a pneumatic spring cartridge
Hello and thanks for the comment. Ride JBI has further improved upon the baseline WP settings and incorporates additional JBI parts into the setups. However suspension setup preference is subjective and varies per rider. To highlight that there are a number of videos on our channel of riders sharing their feedback and experience with both the original WP settings and the JBI spec settings. This concept will continue because Ride JBI believes in being transparent with our suspension testing, development and feedback during our quest to continually improve all brands and types of suspension
So by your explanation, the “2 clicks” of pre-load would equal one full turn of the pre-load adjuster making the total amount of pre-load 1mm? Since every click is .5mm?
@@RideJBI the total spring length is different. The xact is 485mm and the xplor is 475mm according to the manual. The springs are different part numbers.
@@RideJBI Is the install process the same on a xplor fork as it is on the AER forks and does the kit come with install instructions and recommendations for air gap / oil height?
@@TeamStruggleBunny have not installed a kit into the Xplor forks yet but the install should be pretty similar. The kit does come with a owners manual that provides oil and clicker settings. Please email JBI@RideJBI.com requesting the manual and one will be sent by email.
At minute 1:20 you have the spacer on both the top and bottom on the fork spring? Doesn’t the bottoming cone have a clear plastic spacer ? Why the additional spacer ?
Hello. Thanks for comment. Agreed it is redundant. For this video wanted to follow the WP manual instructions. But yes, the redundant spacer it isn’t needed. The WP XACT Pro 7548 Fork bottoming cone is different and does not feature a plastic spacer built in so the provided spring spacer is needed. My guess is WP wanted to maintain a consistent build procedure for both forks regardless of the minor redundancy of the plastic spacer. Good eye!
Hello. tell me what volume and what viscosity of oil in the external circuit when using these cartridges in wp explor 48 for EXC-F 500 21. And also the frequency of maintenance of the cartridges themselves?
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Tip: The bottom spring preload spacer is redundant and not needed. On CV forks it is required because the bottoming hydrostop does not feature a built in plastic preload spacer to prevent the steel spring from resting directly against the aluminum bottoming hydrostop.
Can you do a video on how to service the cartridge? Change the inner oil and such.
Good idea. Will do that sometime.
Hi, nice video, thanks, I just bought the wp xplor pro 6500, and it is great video for self instalattion.
I have a one question, I will use stock springs and which spacers I should use ? 0.5mm ?
How are you checking the correct sag on these forks please? ( great videos btw 👌👊)
The lock nut should be threaded all the way up the rod so rebound adjuster can fit on all the way.
Hello and thanks for the comment. Good tip! The locknut is threaded up all the way and is correctly displayed in the video.
saw that just didnt hear to do it. Your videos are very good and easy to follow. @@RideJBI
congratulations for the video good evening! for hard enduro use, how much oil should I use?
On the XACT Pro 6500 it would be beneficial to run 380cc instead of the stock 400cc. On the Xplor Pro 6500 the stock 380cc is recommended
Excellent job! You asnwered all the questions I had going in. Thanks.
Glad it was helpful!
great setup, but hate the fact there's not a bigger adjustment knob to do by hand during a race
Agreed. That would be helpful
Great job! Can we use this tutorial with new Xplor pro 7500 cartridge? I am planning to install it on Husqvarna TE300 2024 TBI
Hello 👋
Thanks for watching and comment. Unsure. Ride JBI has not done any 7500 Kit installs yet so unsure if the process is identical. I do not believe it is.
@@RideJBIare you planning to do this setup in near future? It will be good to see new Xplor 7500 cartridges setup with some comparison
Are the inner chambers pre filled at wp?
Yes. The cartridges come assembled ready to ride with the base setting from WP. It’s a pretty good setting. Did a couple video reviews riding the base setting in moto and off-road.
Can you make a videos for installing the APEX PRO 6500 cartridge. Or is it the same as this video?
I noticed that you didn’t fill the inner cartridge with oil, do they come shipped with oil in the inner cartridge??? Thanks
Yes. The damping cartridge is already assembled when provided. No need to add oil.
Is this cheaper or more expensive than KYB and Race Tech conversion kits??
Similar price as the KYB kit.
The Race Tech spring conversion is not a comparable setup.
So is 2 turns (standard) 2 clicks?
I thought 1 turn would mean 1 full turn?
He mis-spoke when he said 2 turns.
Qual viscosidade de óleo usar para pratica de enduro?
what oil are you using ?
Hi, do you have a vid on fork seal replacment when using 6500 cartridge.
Hello 👋
No video on seal replacement. The seal changing procedure is still the same as stock and cone valve forks
Why can't they put this on a stock bike . Is it made of gold or aluminum .
Unsure. That question would be best directed to and answered by KTM / WPs parent company.
Do you need to do this to the other forks aswell? Because on all picutres it shows that there's two cartridges, so one cartridge for one fork and other for second fork.
Yes. It’s the same install process for the left and right fork.
Do you have a video for the 6500 kit xplor pro on hqv 701?
Hello 👋
No Ride JBI does not have a video on that specific install.
Have you experimented with less than 400ml of oil? Do you have recommendations other than 400ml?
Hello and thanks for the message.
400cc is the baseline spec per the WP manual. Not implying that it is the optimal setting. Instead sharing what the info is from WP.
The JBI Spec WP XACT 6500 fork builds have various oil volumes depending the rider and riding types. Common oil range used is 360-400cc.
@@RideJBI I have the Xplor Pro and the spec is 380 I believe and 340 seems pretty close to optimal for my riding. I'll be putting the Xact Pro on my new bike so thought I'd ask.
@@TeamStruggleBunny The length of fork is different between the Xplor Pro and the XACT Pro. Because the fork springs are different lengths, this affects the engagement point of the spring tube engaging the outer chamber fork oil when the forks compress. It is not accurate to compare oil volumes between the Xplor Pro and XACT Pro. 380cc in the Xplor pro is pretty much the same as 400cc in the longer XACT Pro fork.
@@RideJBI Understood. Just looking for an idea of experimenting with the XACT now that I have a bit of base line with the XPLOR. So far the Xplor on my '19 xcw are working great at about 340ml. Shortly I'll have Xact pros to go in my xc and will do some testing to see what works for me.
Is the stock spring the proper length for these cartridges or does it need to be adjusted?
It's a spring conversion for an air fork. There is no stock spring.
Hello 👋
Springs are provided by Ride JBI when purchased since this replaces the internals of the WP AER48 forks which don’t have metal coil springs and instead use a pneumatic spring cartridge
Hi I have a 6500 kit fitted to a set of xplor forks can I remove them and fit them to a set of aer xact air forks
The fork lugs from the Xplor forks would be needed because the AER lugs are different internally. The Xplor 6500 does not fit the AER48 fork lugs.
MY FORK is lowered, springs are cut, can this Pro 6500 Cartridge Kit be installed with lowered forks ?
It can surely be done. The difficulty to adapt the XACT kit to the lowered forks depends on how much the forks have been lowered.
Any advantage to having the 6500 kit by JBI over just ordering from wp?
Hello and thanks for the comment. Ride JBI has further improved upon the baseline WP settings and incorporates additional JBI parts into the setups. However suspension setup preference is subjective and varies per rider. To highlight that there are a number of videos on our channel of riders sharing their feedback and experience with both the original WP settings and the JBI spec settings. This concept will continue because Ride JBI believes in being transparent with our suspension testing, development and feedback during our quest to continually improve all brands and types of suspension
thanks! does the H tool come with the 6500 kit or do you know where can I purchase it?
The H tool does not come with the purchase. Race Tech is where Ride JBI gets the tool from
Do these need fork seals replaced at same time.
It’s not necessary. The fork tubes can stay assembled.
So by your explanation, the “2 clicks” of pre-load would equal one full turn of the pre-load adjuster making the total amount of pre-load 1mm? Since every click is .5mm?
Correct, each click is 0.5mm of difference in spring preload
Is it the same for the Xplor pro 6500s? Can you use the stock spring from the Xplor 48?
Hello and thanks for the comment. Yes the stock springs from the Xplor forks may be used in the XACT Pro 6500 Kit.
@@RideJBI the total spring length is different. The xact is 485mm and the xplor is 475mm according to the manual. The springs are different part numbers.
Thanks for the comment. You are correct. Good looking out!
@@RideJBI Is the install process the same on a xplor fork as it is on the AER forks and does the kit come with install instructions and recommendations for air gap / oil height?
@@TeamStruggleBunny have not installed a kit into the Xplor forks yet but the install should be pretty similar. The kit does come with a owners manual that provides oil and clicker settings. Please email JBI@RideJBI.com requesting the manual and one will be sent by email.
Awsome!! Thanks for the video, is it possible or is there a kit that allows you to lower the forks 20mm?
Hello. There is not a kit from WP but Ride JBI can do a custom lowering service. Requires new springs
At minute 1:20 you have the spacer on both the top and bottom on the fork spring? Doesn’t the bottoming cone have a clear plastic spacer ? Why the additional spacer ?
Hello. Thanks for comment. Agreed it is redundant. For this video wanted to follow the WP manual instructions. But yes, the redundant spacer it isn’t needed. The WP XACT Pro 7548 Fork bottoming cone is different and does not feature a plastic spacer built in so the provided spring spacer is needed. My guess is WP wanted to maintain a consistent build procedure for both forks regardless of the minor redundancy of the plastic spacer. Good eye!
@@RideJBI Excellent install video 🔥
Who makes the fork vise?
The vise was developed by Ride JBI and will be for sale in the future.
Hello. tell me what volume and what viscosity of oil in the external circuit when using these cartridges in wp explor 48 for EXC-F 500 21. And also the frequency of maintenance of the cartridges themselves?
Hello and thanks for the comment. Please send an email to JBI@RideJBI.com requesting the Xplor manual and it will be sent.
Thanks
Are there lowering kits available for this swap conversion of my 18 300 xc air fork?
As I read in link in bio that should also mount to wp aer 48 fork fine.
Where to get H tool?
Thanks JB!
Hi,what spring rate do you suggest for 75kg rider on Ktm sxf 250 2020?
Hello thanks for the message. What type of fork and what type of riding?
@@RideJBI same fork…wp aer with conversion kit Xact pro 6500.I am motocross rider (42y) whit good pace
@@Maso.M.47 Thanks for the addition info. The 4.6N/mm springs would be best
Wouldn't you want the spring length to be 488mm with spacer(s)? that what is says in the manual.
The preload is adjustable extrernally so I was alluding to that you have options incase you did not have the exact proper preload spacer.