Ruby Ridge Documentary: American Standoff | Retro Report | The New York Times
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ต.ค. 2014
- When armed suspects stand off against the law today, one event continues to cast a shadow on both sides of the police line: the 1992 siege at Ruby Ridge.
Produced by: Retro Report
Read the story here: nyti.ms/1tzney1
Subscribe to the Times Video newsletter for free and get a handpicked selection of the best videos from The New York Times every week: bit.ly/timesvideonewsletter
Subscribe on TH-cam: bit.ly/U8Ys7n
Watch more videos at: nytimes.com/video
---------------------------------------------------------------
Want more from The New York Times?
Twitter: / nytvideo
Facebook: / nytimes
Google+: plus.google.com/+nytimes/
Whether it's reporting on conflicts abroad and political divisions at home, or covering the latest style trends and scientific developments, New York Times video journalists provide a revealing and unforgettable view of the world. It's all the news that's fit to watch. On TH-cam.
Ruby Ridge Documentary: American Standoff | Retro Report | The New York Times
/ thenewyorktimes
"Further investigation proved that law enforcement had made a series of errors"
Yeah, that's called murder
Welcome to America we are the majority no one cares
What do you consider Waco to be? I just wanna point out the video is talking about runy ridge but in the opening scroll 80% of the footage is waco.
@@SnepBlepVRyes it's Waco in the beginning but I'd like to point out that this video that everyone's commenting on is Ruby Ridge....
Nobody's saying Waco wasn't murder or just as bad....
You're replying to a relevant comment to the video we're all watching... If you want to discuss Waco like someone's put it down then go do that on a Waco video....
It was just an accident gosh!!
Know why he was a fugitive?
*It was because they gave him the wrong court date and he missed it.*
Wow😳
@@farhanrahman7119 yup.
Probation office sent a letter saying court date was March 20; actual court date was Feb 20th.
Also the reason the dog chased the agent is they threw a rock at the house to provoke the dog.
For a short barreled shotgun that an atf agent convinced him to make
@@skeetdavis8909 yup. They just wanted to see how the dog would react so they threw rocks and then shot it when it came over "playfully"
Remember kids, if someone tell you, “oh, the government wouldn’t do that!,” oh yes they would
What did the government do wrong because I'm pretty sure none of them were charged with a crime?
@@dritemolawzbks8574 your comment couldn't be any dumber 😂 they shot the dog, a child, and a mother and you say they wasnt convicted? They sent an army after a family and made a fugitive by giving him the wrong court date, and you think they did nothing? You are the definition of a red coat if you believe that
@@dritemolawzbks8574No one was criminally convicted but they did successfully sue the federal government
@@dritemolawzbks8574what did the baby who got shot do wrong? Just because the government wears a badge and has legal cause doesn't make them a God, it doesn't just wash away all evil that lives in them. At the end of the day they are a human being like me and you. No badge separates humanity. What the government did that day was wrong, wrongfully thought out, innocent blood was shed at the hands of the government. An you ask what they did wrong?
@@dritemolawzbks8574I think you might be a moron!
Notice how the agent doesnt apologize or really take any accountability for his actions. Truly an evil person.
I think the evil one was the yt supremist, no?
@@dirtylevinski They didnt go an attack a family in their home now did they?
@@juliousceaserbeing evil and doing bad things aren’t mutually exclusive…
A white supremacist is evil as a human by virtue of violent beliefs. the FBI agent who has to live with what he did that day could be evil based on the violent action he took based on his job/his national allegiance/perceived threat.
Not a very effective response lil bro
@@dirtylevinskiagain justifying killing a non target is not excuse no matter what you think about them. Law enforcement needs to well, up hold the law. I hate a racist just like the next man. But if you take an oath to uphold the law. That’s what you do.
@@dirtylevinskithe evil one is the people who support murdering a family defending themselves against a tyrannical government.
they brought in a whole army for a small family. that's no myth.
Yuh, would have been a whole lot simpler to appear in court for your little issues, and not make some big cause about a whole lot of nothing. Loons
ye this is no “government miscalculation”
@Seymour Cox stop obfuscating.
@@ronalddump4061 yah especially if they gave you an actual court date. and not sending notice of a 1/24/15 when your scheduled for 1/14/15.
@Seymour Cox answer this. why do you and Ronald chump hate the constitution so much? and why do you stay here as redcoats wearing continental blue clothes.?
"We don't trust the government"
*gets shot by government*
"I can't believe people don't trust us!!"
@mellissa compston Anyone who commits crimes under the pretense of doing their "job" knows exactly what they are doing and is accountable for their actions.
@@awesomecooly123 do you realize that the us military literally go into other peoples country's and murders them
@@theunholyblackman9438 both are wrong, both should be held accountable
@@theunholyblackman9438 Uh yes??? Most countries in the world do that. Don't single out the U.S.
awesomecooly123 🤔 the commonality there is.... governments.... governments around the world do that.... sooo ya. Don’t trust any governments.
Looking at history. That’s a smart way to think. No matter where you live.
The American sniper that killed Vicki Weaver in August of 1992 was Lon Tomohishi Horiuchi. He was rewarded with a promotion. In 1997 he was charged with manslaughter but the charges were dropped… naturally. Scary stuff.
Not scary!
He was also involved in the Waco siege, not surprising that both of them ended in tragedy
Disgusting how he got a promotion and got off
The daughter seems super intelligent. To go through all that and come out the kind of person she seems to be is incredible.
Government: shoots wife in head
Also government: we are ready to negotiate
I'd be more upset about the dog tbh
It wasn’t the government it was a Chinese sniper who also was sniping at Waco
"Sniper shot from 300 yards away explodes someone's head"
Stop resisting or we will use force.
The next morning after they shot his wife in the face while she was holding her baby they got on the loud speaker and said "what is your wife going to make you for breakfast this morning" when they knew beyond a doubt they just shot her in the face from 120 yards away. Anyone that has ever shot a rifle at 100 or even 200 yards with a high power scope knows exactly what they hit and what happens to what they just hit at that short of a distance. That is just Pure evil. All for failing to appear in court
@@gregengbert one of the biggest travesties of our time
"we knew we had to do this better"
*one year later*
Waco seige ends in massacre
AKBuilder762 clearly you didn’t make it past 9th grade
kobil - be careful
It is not cheap, when citezens are armed.
I heard that the guy that pulled the trigger on the long gun at ruby ridge was also involved in waco...
j o è . . . you hèàrd ??? fàçts -
The problem with Law Enforcement was never a racial issue. It was always the state vs the people.
It’s mainly feds too not your local police
Ideological subversion is a process by which an enemy seeks to weaken and eventually overthrow a target nation or society by infiltrating its institutions and gradually changing its values, beliefs, and culture. According to Bezmenov, the process of ideological subversion has four stages: demoralization, destabilization, crisis, and normalization.
The first stage of demoralization involves the gradual erosion of a society's moral and ethical values, often through the manipulation of education, media, and culture. The second stage of destabilization involves the creation of social and economic chaos, often by exploiting existing divisions and conflicts within a society. The third stage of crisis involves the escalation of conflict and the breakdown of social order, leading to a situation of extreme vulnerability. The final stage of normalization involves the imposition of a new social and political order that is more favorable to the interests of the enemy.
Bezmenov argued that the Soviet Union was actively engaged in a program of ideological subversion against the United States and other Western democracies during the Cold War. He believed that the Soviet Union sought to undermine Western values and institutions by infiltrating and manipulating key institutions such as the media, academia, and government. Bezmenov's ideas continue to be controversial and debated today, but his work has had a significant impact on the study of propaganda, disinformation, and psychological warfare.
It's been both
@@Mikehighlyfavoredit has never been both. Media will portay that because they are told to. They would have less control over everyone if we all got along. It's much easier to make a race war time and time again so it makes citizens weaker. It will always be medium wage and below seen as enemies to them.
@@Mikehighlyfavored100%
I hate how crappy our legal system is once they decided that the person is a criminal. I hate it. The fact that they said that the legal system doesn’t change if they mess up but if people get mad about the mess up
Ideological subversion is a process by which an enemy seeks to weaken and eventually overthrow a target nation or society by infiltrating its institutions and gradually changing its values, beliefs, and culture. According to Bezmenov, the process of ideological subversion has four stages: demoralization, destabilization, crisis, and normalization.
The first stage of demoralization involves the gradual erosion of a society's moral and ethical values, often through the manipulation of education, media, and culture. The second stage of destabilization involves the creation of social and economic chaos, often by exploiting existing divisions and conflicts within a society. The third stage of crisis involves the escalation of conflict and the breakdown of social order, leading to a situation of extreme vulnerability. The final stage of normalization involves the imposition of a new social and political order that is more favorable to the interests of the enemy.
Bezmenov argued that the Soviet Union was actively engaged in a program of ideological subversion against the United States and other Western democracies during the Cold War. He believed that the Soviet Union sought to undermine Western values and institutions by infiltrating and manipulating key institutions such as the media, academia, and government. Bezmenov's ideas continue to be controversial and debated today, but his work has had a significant impact on the study of propaganda, disinformation, and psychological warfare.
Every time they said “far right” I cringed. You violated human rights and try to justify it by labeling everyone far right. I’m not white and definitely not a white supremacist but still think they did wrong to this family.
RG JR. exactly they act like he had it coming. The government was in the wrong for sure and they act like it was his fault for the government shooting his kid and dog and then his wife
I'm against what the government did here too, but Weaver WAS far right. He attended white nationalist meetings and said many prejudiced thing around his town. So they are right to label him thus.
Nicolas Large the problem is that it was not an investigation. It was cold blooded MURDER.
Nicolas Large I see what you are saying. I guess the issue is with the label “far right”. I see it as a misuse of the terminology. You can be “right” and you can be “far right.” However, being a “white nationalist” and a “racist” is something else. Those groups should be labeled something else. Referring to them as “right” lumps them into a group of other people that do not in anyway agree with racism. Racism is more of a communist idea such as being a Nazi.
@@rgjr.6055 Right. I'm not looking to disagree with you on the meaning of the political label, just wanted to point out the reason the government was investigating Weaver to begin with. The way they handled it was ridiculous. I'm just going off of other TH-cam videos online, the Discovery Channel doc specifically. Unfortunately, the above video didn't really go in depth explaining the initial reason Weaver and his family were being harassed.
They straight up sniped a little kid wtf
Lon Horiuchi was the sniper. both at Ruby Ridge and Waco.
they sniped his mother while she was holding her daughter.
@@PowerfulKundalini Didn't they ice the dog as well?
@@colinhollenbeck6629 I believe that's what "kicked it off". Dog was giving them up
@@colinhollenbeck6629 yes and the son who was chasing after the dog.
"Law enforcement typically doesn't change because someone has a brilliant idea.. it changes because we get sued..." From an FBI negotiator. Let that sink in.
8:35 I messed up the quote but nonetheless the point is clear
@@HowieRaps interesting point...
@@BasedPureblood really shows just how strong armed our law enforcement is
So you were stalking them then you shot there dog then you shot most of them. And I wonder why they were anti-government:(
You shoot a woman with a baby in her arms? I doubt she;s also got a gun on her.
They were anti black, too. What did the Blacks do to them specifically in order to make them this way? Just following your logic. And the dog was shot after he failed to appear at Court and they were trying to execute a warrant.
@@bartwilson2513 He failed to appear in court because he was given the wrong court date as testified to by the court clerk
mark Phillips yup
@@bartwilson2513 As I recall he had taken his family to a neighbors kids birthday party not knowing that the people were white supremacist. The family was under surveillance and saw him and his family there. He had nothing else to do with that other than wrong place wrong time.
Sold 2 "illegal" shotguns...wow, big time arms dealers over here
actually. he foiled them. he cut the barrels one inch longer than the illegal limit.
@@douglashoward4206 that did not hold up in fed gov court. all they got randy on was failture to go to court
his fault was not named to ""hlllary""
then he could sell even stingers to terrorists without any consequences
It was a quarter inch less than legal. Plus, he was entrapped to provide it for sale. Gobmint goons.
It's not just that through, he was Anti Government I guess also.
No wonder he was on the radars!
It amazes me that we are not hearing about militias more, with the way the U.S is going.
Being against the government shouldn't be a death sentence in a democracy.
Constitutional republic
I remember watching another documentary about Ruby Ridge and everything the government did was so wrong. The ATF trying to entrap and blackmail the guy, the probation officer botching the court date, the Marshalls not announcing their presence and killing the son and dog, and killing the wife was just a snowball effect that screwed everything up. I remember seeing a clip after they killed the mom where an FBI agent had to announce that she died from the sniper. Just seeing all those people around him go into an uproar about it just proved that they were a disorganized mess that caused the public to lose trust in the FBI.
Also this fact may be mistaken but according to the documentary Randy Weaver wasn't actually part of the Aryan Brotherhood. Becides there beliefs about the world the only reason they associated with them was because they were the closest church to Ruby Ridge and that they shared similar beliefs. Weaver's friends and family even said that while he associated with the church he didn't believe what the brotherhood did (but again this may be not accurate. Would like some clarification on this bit)
Guilt by association because it takes the heat off of government killing freely
If he was a AB you would hear ABs bragging about it to this day
They left out that the lawyer sent the wrong date for the trial.
Joshua wasn’t it the judge?
Also , if I’m not mistaken, they entrapped him in the first place.
You don’t expect The NY Times to tell the truth, do you?
Even so, they didn't have to send the green berets up the mountain to arrest him. They could have waited until he drove to town and had the Sherriff have a chat with him.
But he didn't show for either the right date, or the wrong date.
That 3.1 million dollar settlement should have come from the FBI agents pockets and not the tax payers!
I agree all should be forced to pay out of pocket.
Who do you think fund's the FBI either way you look at it it's coming from taxpayers
It should come out of their budgets at the very least
This world makes me sick
@Memedreams 21 yes and no theres very many ways to look at this including yours of course
Very practical judge. A strong case of humanity at work.
What a horrible thing to do to a Family 👪
Same sniper was at Waco shooting people!
“When the dog uncovered the Agents’ position, an Agent Shot it.”
Old habits don’t change huh?
And that was after throwing rocks to cause a reaction from the dog.
Glad he capped one of them for the dog honestly
Rip doggo☹
@@pickledteeth5055 you’d rather a life be taken rather than a dogs
@@Drew23- Yes. Dogs are innocent not the Feds.
"Armed white separatist"
As if that excuses what the Feds did to him...
Well it helps their story doesn’t it? A standard go-to. .... & a way for someone to sleep better at night.
The new term is "Armed white nationalist". Create, buzzword, demonize it, weaponize it and get more power. They never changed their tactics. People just get more and more stupid with each passing generation.
White: yes he was a white man
Separatists: only that he wanted to be separated from the government.
Being an armed white separatist isn’t a crime but he had federal warrants for gun charges. Why put your kids in harms way?
@@menofbronze6884 it takes two to tango.
As an African American, I sympathize with the family. If all they were doing was staying off the grid and living their life. No matter if there was white separatist. They did not have the right to get gunned down. The mother should never ever get shot with a baby in their hand. It shows me The government sometimes can be the enemy and it's not a black and white thing.
Wow! This was a very interesting documentary. I feel very sad because of all the people who died.
*Fails to appear in court * *family gets butchered on their own land by a small army including armor*
Didn't even fail to appear...the court sent him a summons with the wrong court date!!!
@@Master...deBater talk about a misunderstanding, xD
why would they need armor?
@@kingdomofvinland8827 good question . Why did they need mraps for like a family of 5
@@capnmorgan432 because it was a planned assassination
God bless their dog. He at least gave them a warning before they were about to be slaughtered. Truly man's best friend.
Precious comment, so sad, so true.
couldn't save the kid though, and the kid only retaliated with fire when they shot the dog in front of him
probably the best thing to take out of all of this is how well trained that dog was.
Not their dog. Now it's personal!
@@AllTheOthers most dogs don't even need training. you treat them nice and they protect you. it's just common bonding.
Fled charges you mean, given the wrong court date?
And Waco would soon follow.
Oklahoma City and 168 souls would pay the tab for Ruby Ridge & Waco.
It wasn't caused by errors it was caused by gross negligence. FBI and AFT should be defunded.
I like how wanting to be left alone, in peace and freedom, is called "radical."
Because if everyone did that the system would collapse and take away the governments power.
He did belive in segregation. Thorough funnily enough the people who use the term "anti racist" to describe themselves also believe in that.
They are against the Government, just pretend they are brown and go from there.
Yeah, because they want you bound in demo-,technocracy, police state, consumerist-capitalist (even communist-anarchist ideas are welcome!) kinda state. Society is sick and I hope it suffocates.
@@NikolasoGames I think the fact you think capitalism and communism are the same says miles about your intellect, or lack of.
No matter what Randy Weaver’s views were , the way the Federal Gov handled this was incredibly negligent.
I always thought we had the freedom to have our own views & opinions in America. Even if those views are against the actions of the fed govt, we're supposed to have the freedom to feel whatever way we want. The fed govt does not double as the "thought police" & is not supposed to begin surveillance on or get lethal with the citizens simply for disagreeing with their views on taxation, regulations or other laws.
at least we took a govt agent out in the end
@@thereindeertherabbitthebat592
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Great comment, I'm just not good at putting my thoughts to paper,sorry it's just clapping hands
The Federal Gov handled this correctly. He put his family in this situation by using them to hide behind and they are fortunate they were not all killed.
this is the only vid that doesn't portray the Weavers as "Terrorists" while defending the actions of the Feds. they shot the dog and then state they didn't incite the gunfire??? R U kidding me? they shot the man's dog on his property but state they didn't start the fight??
Amazing how Sara avoided being hit during the second incident as she had her father in front of her, Kevin Harris behind her and her mother to her left, all three of whom ended up shot or killed.
Even after everything that happened, it takes a special kind of person to be able to forgive like that
WITH A WAD OF CASH IN TEIR POCKET TO HELP SO... come on now
This was all started over a report of a sawed off shotgun.
@The Swayze Train Fat chance of that. Get what you can while you can, before Comrade Biden takes office.
The FBI asked him to cut off the barrel and said they wouldn't buy it if he didn't. His lawyer failed to notify him of his court date 📅 so they came to arrest him. Murdered their family 👪 💔
@@greybone777 followed this closely on the great Chuck Harder radio show 'For the People'. Bo Gritz called in giving updates. I remember the issue of the incorrect court date (or not getting the date as you say) which began this fiasco.
The agent had him saw the barrel for him. Set up!!! Crooked agents just like the one's today! Ruining our country!
@@greybone777 This is the correct answer and Lon Houichi is free as can be. Such a joke.
The worst tragedy of all is that 27 years later law enforcement is still up to the same old dirty tricks.
The real hero's were the media making all that sensational reports for revenues
Branch devi dean's whacks better off the earth before killing innocent people
Sorry for exploding your sons melon but it revealed our process needed revamped here's a million bucks to forget about it
Where did they poop while held up
That itch is brainwashed by the Christian cult
murder a guys family because of a missed court date. they wanted it to be sloppy or it wouldnt have been
Bone chilling that children had "am i next" sign with a bullseye taped to them when in fact, they actually were the next target.
The kids left alive spent that entire time cooped up in that tiny house with their dead mothers body.
yes its your own fed gov fault
Frank Smith the baby was racist?
Regardless of political views, FBI and the Government really F'ed this up
Nate G Agreed. Perfect storm. Right wing radicals armed to the teeth (dueling banjos for this part) who refused to go down without a fight! (even though they clearly had broken laws and had to answer for them.) and the government who elevated their threat to a status of "shoot to kill" in all circumstances. Surprised it doesn't happen more often, actually.
+Vincent Cuttolo are you actually trying to put forth the idea that they were not breaking a single law? Please cite a source where they say that this family didn't break a single law. I mean...you've read up on it and everything.
Also, the comment boards are full of people who defend the FBI. So that's clearly not true. But you're not understanding my position. Not at all. The FBI totally overreacted in this. Without a doubt. However, are you actually going to say the victims did the right thing? They should have thrown down their guns, marched out with their hands held high and surrendered. The best place to fight is in court. You might win, you might lose, but you'll be alive. Or maybe you're one of those people who believe that if you are unjustly charged with a crime you should grab that hogleg and blast your way out of trouble! Yeeeehaaaa!! :-)
Yes they did!
Considering the Weavers had every charge but one against them dropped, yea, they did nothing wrong.
Nate G just like the murders of Waco
You can never ever ever trust the government.
We're only days away from the very next Waco or Ruby Ridge
“White separatist” really? The ATF baits this guy for weeks until he cracks because he needs the money and y’all still can’t let him rest in peace.
So he wasn’t a white separatist? How so?
@@PaperMario64 what is wrong with a white Christian man wanting to leave society to raise his family on his own property?
@@PaperMario64 we are waiting....????
@@PaperMario64 how long will we have to wait till you answer, Nun Ya?
TIL stating facts is meanie >>;((((
I do not care what any agents say, they all knew it was murder.
+The_Great Ayden
The right thing to do? I don't agree with these peoples beliefs but this was definitely not the right thing to do. The FBI was successfully sued and people were demoted, fired, and even imprisoned over this which brought about big changes in the procedures they now follow so this was not the right thing to do whatsoever. Regardless of these people's beliefs, the FBI went about this all wrong, lives were lost, and the FBI paid dearly for it but not as much as the loss of life that day.
The_Great Ayden You’re a literal Gestapo agent
@@ayeitsayden7746 Yes those poor federal agents. Getting snipers to blow the head off a persecuted mother who stood up with her 10 month old baby inside the house. Those snipers just had to protect themselves right?
@ River .. Nah ... it was that White Separatist that created this problem to begin with .. you do not get to disobey the law because some voices in your head told you so ... you are not above the LAW ... it is not there for your convenience ....
They shot and killed an agent and used their children as hostages ... They had it coming ...
@@sneakyguy4444 That women had it coming .. using her little baby as a shield ... what kind of deranged mother is she .. she is disgusting .....
It is nice to see comments on here from people who actually did some research and know the truth.
I have never felt more disdain for government officials than i do today.
so sad. murdered a little boy. this is just sickening. what a monumental abuse of power
I can't imagine how they could've still live with themselves after that... sitting at the front yard while watching over their grandchildren about Sammy's age playing around the lawn.
I bet they don't even think they did anything wrong at all.
0
Imagine you are given orders to capture a heavily armed separatist, two people emerge from the thick woods with rifles pointed in your direction, do you shoot?
@@rd-ks8bm Right... "heavily" armed as in one aging man with a rifle and a defenseless 14 year old boy on their own property. This isn't the vietnam, korean, or afghan wars. They aren't fighting violent terrorist and communist. They should've went to the front door and talked to the man, not outposted several snipers waiting to assassinate the man. It was a gross abuse of power and violation of civil and human rights.
This is why I CHEERED when they blew that fed off the roof in Waco.
When he took that shot and hit the mother, he 100% knew he hit the mother and that’s exactly why they went right to trying to negotiate with the mother, to make it look as though they had no idea what they just did.
Absolutely agree 100 percent
“Vikki, come outside with the children, we’re making pancakes”
This was the message on the blowhorn the morning after her murder.
Source: “trust me bro”
Step 1: get giant Tesla coils
Where step two
All because a fed paid Randy to modify some shotguns. NONE OF THIS SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED!
Law enforcement not being held accountable for their actions since the 90’s I see
Way way before that.
Yeah its much longer than that.
1790s
Ohio Kent State University
@@markcjakims Waco Texas and drumroll.... 9/11!
Murder is murder, regardless if you're wearing a costume and badge.
Yes
T hats just funny you would think of their uniforms as costumes. Always remember there is always more good cops then bad and cop haters will one day wish they would have been happy when Marshall law takes over and all the race baiters and cop haters get gunned down and not a soul to stop them..... Food for thought!
Not just a costume, more like gang colors. Think about it....
THATS GONNA HAPPEN TO ALL US IF WE KEEP LETTING THEM AWAY WITH THIS
@Memedreams 21 Obviously you have never loved a pet.
her whole family ceased to exist infront of her eyes with their heads exploding and she won 3.1 million dollars? THATS IT?
So because the guy sold an illegal shotgun they send a whole army to disarm one family
FBI sharp shooter, Lon Horiuchi, shot and killled Vickie at Ruby Ridge and he was also a shapr shooter at Waco.
Yes
well Lon needs to grow an eye in the back of his head.
@@spankdarsharmoot913 oh my god you're actually making a threat on youtube about something that happened almost 30 years ago. Get a life. It was wrong but you're not better by making these stupid threats
We can't let anarchists run America.
He was also shooting people that were fleeing from the fire in waco
They shot the man's dog.
John Wick wants to know the FBI's location
🔫 foreal!
And john wick was dead cause of covid-19
@@kingping3933 actually it was the vaccine that killed him but they blamed it on the covid 😭
We forgive our enemies not for our enemies but for ourselves.
I’m glad I watched the other side of the story before watching the news
Just goes to show
If they want you
They’ll get you
Then lie about how it happened after
sickening. just imagine being in their spot. what do you do when your wife get headshoted, your son killed, your dog shot and all that without any kind of provocation. How do you respond to that?
How about you ask the families of gang members, black children, and other victims of color? Wild how these anti-gov folks will show up for literal white supremacists and terrorists but don't care when a twelve-year-old child gets shot dead in a playground.
Strain Master420 so that makes it OK for cops to do it?
DonTeflon 86 When did i ever say it’s okay for cops to do it? Seriously, dig out and quote me on where i said that...
Strain Master420 what's does black on black crime have to do with cops killing unarmed civilians? Stay on the subject. We aren't taking about white on white crime either.
DonTeflon 86 Dude are you on crack or something lmao you’re taking what i said completely out of context i’m not even talking on the cops killing unarmed Afro citizens issue, that’s something completely different, i’m talking about street gang violence in inner cities, take a trip to Chicago, Memphis, Flint, Houston, Etc. you’ll see it’s all black on black for yourself lmao...
This is crazy sad i hope justice is served one day they need to be held accountable
The john joe gray situation is hilarious, a life sentence to avoid responsibility but theyre description of it as a lounge off was great
"Fled charges" more like was given the wrong court date.
TheSpacecraftX lol they dont care i personally didnt have my court date sent to me. i asked the mail place and they said they never delivered it. i had a warrant out for 5 months and had to pay it or sit.
Agreed, more skewed info being put out by a biased news source
most likely that was the point were this situation ignited
a burocratic error
The fact is his lawyer was given the corrected date. And Weaver did not appear on the correct date, or the wrong date. And wasn't going to appear.
@@larrythiel691 A documentory on this event stated that the letter his attorney gave to Mr. Weaver said that the court date had been moved to mid March. The actual date was something like February 19th, so it is not clear if he would have shown up or not.
This is why the people should be scared of the federal government
H3rBCantKill - actually believe it or not, the government (not the military) is afraid of the armed 100 ,000,000 citizens. And they should be.
That’s why they’re trying to flood this country with illegals and allow them to vote so that our 2nd amendment keeps getting nibbled on a little at a time until one day it’s gone. Then there will be tyranny like we’ve never seen in this country.
In both cases it was a lack of communication and exaggeration of the threat over the channels that made the mistakes happen. Although in the first case the cultists were at fualt regardless of the situation they escalated it and continued to escalate it regardless of negotiations
When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.
Thomas Jefferson
This is why you protect the second amendment
@@pauldeahl3980 illegals cant vote you paranoid bud... also im not a liberal just not brainwashed by the govt to hate ppl.... look why blame the people when the govt is the enabler that doesnt do anything about it... Democrat or Republican... govt is the problem not the people
This is my maternal great grandmothers family.
This was over two shotguns!!!😩😩😩😭🗣️🤣🤣 Have to be kidding me wow
No matter what your belief is, no one deserves to be shot down in front of their children when they pose no direct threat to anyone
FINALLY! Someone who gets it! Someone with a sense of justice!
If you are armed you are a threat
They murdered his unarmed wife and son first.
@@demonorse If you are unarmed you are a slave.
That's like the Antifa scum saying "You have No Right to Own" while THEY run around Bashing heads and brandishing with their FINGER on the TRIGGER for the News!
Fun fact: The same sniper that shot the mother was also present during the siege on waco. He shot and killed those that were fleeing from the burning waco compound as well as took photos standing over top burnt children's bodies while wielding a sniper rifle.
And Lon Horiuchi was a major coordinator at OK city.
Why is there almost no pictures of the dude
@@MLHMODZ If you were a killer for hire would you like
a wanted poster with your likeness every where on the www.?
@@jackhalloween7373 no but I’d expect more than one picture. This guy could not even exist and just be a name. I’m not crazy I swear!
@Fregit Do your own research lazy troll. That's what God gave you a google machine for..
This is what they did to American citizen
Imagine what they do when they go overseas
This is downright murder. They got mad because Randy wouldn't rat people out when they pulled an entrapment on him with the shotguns. They shoot his dog, his 12 year old son, Randy himself, and his wife holding a baby. His friend was also shot from the same bullet that killed Vicky. The same sniper who shot Vicky was later at WACO shooting people there too. The sniper was charged with a crime but got out of it of course. Randy could have killed every single one of them if he wanted to, same with WACO...the atf ran out of ammo and the davidians LET them walk away after they fired thousands of rounds into a house with like 70 kids inside.
Sniper guy “we look at things different now”
Did a woman holding a child look different back then🤔🤔🤔🤔
nah apparently back then a woman holding a child, walking in a straight line looks like a man with an assault rifle dashing from cover to cover
Well, I’ll say this...if my dog takes off into the woods, I follow it, and somebody shoots it on my own or public property, they’re gonna catch lead. Doesn’t matter who they are.
Cnf 60 amen
SavageRaff fortunately for me, I’m a pretty good shot, so they can send whoever they want, as long as they don’t want them back.
edgy
Amen
It's a dog mate, a dog's life isn't worth a humans. Unless your PETA or something
The sniper in this video was also at Waco, just saw the Netflix miniseries and he's the older grey sniper interviewed quite a bit
I'm glad the young man got to take down an enemy before he died.
There are so many questions here unanswered. The biggest one that started this whole debacle is, "Why are 'sawed off shotguns' illegal to begin with?" Honestly, what makes that gun more dangerous than a 24 inch shotgun used to hunt ducks? A short barreled shot gun has less lethality in terms of ballistics from a long distance. Sure they are easier to conceal but concealment doesn't mean that something is nefarious or malicious. In fact there are many state governments that legally require you to conceal your handgun when in public. You think you are stopping criminals with this law? Get real! If someone is intent on robbing a store or bank with a short barreled rifle, they'll get their hands on a rifle and saw the barrel off with a cheap saw from Home Depot.
The reason these became illegal (without a tax stamp) is because during Prohibition, gangsters preferred short barreled guns, because they were easier to hide. Today's gangsters like minivans because they are easier to shoot out of when doing a drive by. With that same logic we should ban minivans!!!
Blame Neo-Con God-king Ronald Reagan for that. He allowed for the passage of the 1986 FOPA which basically created The ATF and even placed Sawed Shotguns, SBRs, Machine Guns (which includes open bolt Semi-Autos), 3D printed Guns and "Destructive Devices" (like a Stryker Shotgun) on the "Pay the $200 tax stamp & other BS" list.
Gov will ban anything they can convince the public is dangerous. A mini 14 and AR15 are virtually the same in terms of lethality but the AR looks scary and the mini 14 doesnt so gov goes after the AR15
It had nothing to do with the shotgun, this was an excuse to poke into the affairs of the group the weaver hang around, and in order to trap weaver and force him to inform, they charged him with the shotgun they had bought from him and then cut in half, he never cut the rifle, he was then given the wrong court date by a "mistake" and when he then did not show they moved to arrest him, he fled and they then began their white supremcsy lies in order to legitmate going in and murdering the weavers.
so it had to with gathering intelligence on the group the weavers hang around, not the shotguns
Yeah they are less lethal because they spread faster but are legal with a 200 dollar tax stamp lol
@@JSB1TVyup
the dogs gonna reveal their position so lets shoot it and make more noise absurd
The dog was shot with a suppressed mp5
@@theadventuresofderekandthe4802 no it was not
The Adventures Of Derek And Them...., which is still loud
Unless it was a subsonic bullet then it would have been loud still a subsonic is still loud
We're from the gubmint, and we're here to help...
If the snipers needed to have a clear shot in order to squeeze the trigger, how did they then have a clear shot into a doorway hitting an unarmed woman in the head holding a 10 month old baby?
My blood boils whenever I see these programs about Ruby Ridge.
@That Flippin Guy because of Randy Marsh
So what? You can't do anything about it. Now pay your taxes to allmighty government you slave.
NOTHING HAS CHANGED.. ALL THE TERRORISM PLOTS THAT FBI CLAIMED THEY STOPPED WERE ORCHESTRATED BY THE FBI INCRIMINATING SHEEPLES THAT NEED MONEY!! ALL!!!!
Boogaloo
Peter Geschel doomer.
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed with the blood of tyrants and patriots". ... Means that if liberty is to exist, there will forever be a struggle of free people with the forces of tyranny.
The whole country will be watching as more and more Virginia Counties stand up agaisnt the Democrats and Gov Northam trying to take away our constitutional right Stand Strong Virginia protect what we stand for
@@robhaynes1998 good luck on that one
Why are the ‘Patriots’ always huge racist mofos?
The tree can have my blood at best I am down to my final 40 years
@@bartwilson2513 we're not. We're just made to look that way in order to cast shadow on what we stand for. Freedom. Liberty. Justice. None of which shall be infringed.
When you think “the government wouldn’t do that!” Oh yes they would!
The man said this became a founding myth of the right?!?!
A FREAKING MYTH?!
After the FBI murdered Vicki Weaver, FBI agents would yell at the house and ask Vicki what was for supper
Agents were stupid not knowing who they murdered!
@@dorishousand3122 they knew they were taunting them
they didn't know she was dead obviously
if you're trying to deescalate the situation you wouldn't taunt them
@@nade7242 there’s no way a trained marksman doesn’t not know they shot someone holding a baby in the head. He was not that far away. They knew
Coming soon to a neighborhood near you!
@Dead Fox
You may be right
Why don't we see these no good for nothing's doing this to these muslims in the so called no go zones...of course not..cuz they're planted there by the Democratic party
Randy wasn’t apart of the Aryan Brotherhood, he literally knew a guy who knew members of the brotherhood, the the feds said that’s good enough to say he’s apart of them.
They knew they killed the mom & pretended not to know, that’s disgusting
Right off the bat, "armed white separatist" welp, this is totally gonna be unbiased...
@@lj8952 you're clearly too uneducated to understand sarcasm.
@@lj8952 i feel bad for you
But he was a white nationalist, but I'm not saying that what happened to him was right.
It's the new york slimes, what do you expect?
@@shuraviarchivalfootage9157 no he wasn’t. He did business with one once, but he never associated with that group.
And people wonder why I don’t trust the government...
I don't know if Ruby Ridge is exhibit A or exhibit 1 million. Either way there's a lot of reasons to back up this claim.
Well this should convince people to give up their guns and trust the government. Gee
Dog discovered FBI agents wearing a gilley suit. Left that out. Oh it was weavers green beret commander that negotiated him out…
They shot an unarmed man and a woman holding a baby over a sawed off shotgun. That's insane they should have been charged with murder, they were posing no threat and they snipe them from 200 yards away with no warning, BS idc if you don't agree with their ideologies(Which I don't) this is no where even close to grounds for deadly force.
He wasn't unarmed, and he was selling illegal weapons.
He was not armed at the time he was shot and there is a good chance the corrupt ATF sawed off the shotguns after they were bought.
Julie Smith so what? He was armed most of the time while there. Does he have to be holding a gun to be a threat? No, if he was holding a gun 20 minutes prior, then he should be dealt with appropriately.
He has the right to hold a gun, the fact that someone might have been a threat at some point doesn't mean they can be executed when they are not a threat anymore. Also the guy that killed the Marshal was let off on SELF DEFENSE.
Julie Smith He was still a threat. He hadn't given up his guns, and hadn't tried to surrender. He was going to fight until the end.
Every time a fed dies, an angel gets it's wings.
Fed are angles?
@@John-jg2km u read that wrong
@@John-jg2km 62 iq moment bruh.
It depends on what kind or feds they are there’s feds that take care of dumb BLM riots, the good guys, and there’s murderers, the bad guys.
@@Hunter_Stonestreet Fed universally defends BLM while punishes law abiding citizens.
The undercover federal agent atf guy that approached Weaver about sawing off a couple shotguns, how is that not entrapment?
Perfect example on why people do not trust the government.
This is the New York times covering for the FBI and telling a very sanitized version of what happened at Ruby ridge
As opposed to the TH-cam conspiracy theorist rendition
@@popcorn8153 At this point the conspiracy theorist have more credibility then the government so I guess that makes you the bigger fool.
Where can you find the real story?
@@popcorn8153 or at least until google says it no longer has to be called a conspiracy theory.
@@popcorn8153 Conspiracy theory? Did they or did they not snipe a 14 year old boy and a woman holding a 10 month old baby?
They drew first blood on private land. It was a death squad, not "law enforcement".
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@JR-lw3ms imagine needing to use a fake account you show just how cowardly you are 🐽
@@SHADOW-ei6mw yeah, your account is totally legit! LOL 🤡 P.S. Those Idaho dipshits got what they deserved!
Killing federal agents shouldn’t be a crime they’re always on the wrong side. It should however become a competition.
Exactly how many "hostages" were "rescued" by the federal death squad they call the "hostage rescue team" at Ruby Ridge Or ANYWHERE for that matter?
bearasscreekfarms sameasabove zero watch what happens in near future if things continue to head in wrong direction
bearasscreekfarms sameasabove thank you for saying that. As with Lavoy Finiccum. No hostages involved. But the hostage negotiate team is but a Black ops team of military hitmen.