The Greatest Heist You've Never Heard Of | Retro Report | The New York Times
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- One night in 1971, files were stolen from an F.B.I. office near Philadelphia. They proved that the bureau was spying on thousands of Americans. The case was unsolved, until now.
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J.Edgar Hoover's name should be removed from the F.B.I. building. He was a huge criminal.
Yes
Agree totally 💯
Absolutely
The #1 criminal trying to call others criminals...dude he blackmailed those and he did the same stuff. He makes me sick.....😤💯🧿🙏👏💩🗑
This man lied about being white and was ashamed of being black smh
I like how the FBI director said there was a _"better way"_ to clean up the FBI. How the hell would people have known without this group?
Exactly, sometimes the ends do justify the means.
Well I don't think he could actively encourage security leaks given his position. I don't know what they expected him to say.
Beorn thank you!!!
Yeah just like the better way that ol Hoover found to circumvent the law
Agreed
1)This is what REAL patriotism looks like
2)This is what REAL journalism looks like.
Let’s see.
@@robertwalker7010 fym
Only if Americans today similarly become Anti war and realise they need to negotiate with Russia instead of making profits for arms and ammunition companies.
Jay Edgar was a very troubled individual. He overcompensated for his lack of self esteem. Very clever getting the scoop on everyone keeping it in inventory right from the get-go. Karma has a way you may not see it but it's in the mail. Philadelphia USA
@@Ian-pn1ffhe’s one of those people who believe everything the government tells them . Also some people don’t care because they can’t understand how it affects them but I can’t blame them for being dumb your government does a lot to trick them
Whistleblower to government: "I'm exposing your illegal activities and crimes!"
Government to whistleblower: "Don't you know it's illegal and a crime to expose our illegal activities and crimes?"
Always so impressed at how normal (kindergarten teacher and a religious teacher) people that take down powerful adversaries are and how often that has happened. And the ones with power never see it coming
because they think no one has the right to question them
@@bart234465 Or perhaps it's because they can hide in plain sight.
That's because in any place other than a police state, trying to keep widespread illegal activities secret is like trying to keep the tide from going back out.
@@6610stix Except it's not fast enough concerning our current WH Administration
@@B_Bodziak Maybe that speed is directly porportional to our current administration's penchant for a police state?
IT's sad whenever a whistle blower is perceived as a traitor. Don't shoot the messenger.
Snitches get stitches
Only the guilty say that.
GRU defector Stanislav Lunav claimed that nearly every anti war movement was infiltrated and funded by Russian intelligence. They may have been traitors and not even known it. Looking back we know that Vietnam was a misstep and that eastern expansionism was not as great a threat as we believed but had things gone differently these naive and sentimental kids could very well hahe been the western judas.
L.M ; they are dangerous . Wait until it happens to you. When you are betrayed by a friend or some one close to you in the name of anything from love to politics.
@@StufiBuy lets not forget that most of the Anti-War sentiments and protest were in fact fuelled by the returning Vietnam War veterans themselves ... They are Traitors too ... I will not be thanking them for their service for sure !!!
I’m surprised that Netflix and other companies are making so many heist movies and haven’t done this one that actually changed peoples lives.
This group of people are heroes!
FR!
there is a doc now on Media PA
I agree
When the government breaks the law to harm us, we have every right to break the law to expose it, and bring it down. We are the people Peace
donald peters -we do not owe anything to liars.
Agreed
It was J Edger then, now it's a massive data collection that empowers sketchy charectors, national and maybe more impactful, international actors. Putin is J Edger ten fold but his adversity is us!
Just a thought from a old cold war warrior .
donald peters
You are correct.
Now why don’t we organize a plot to force our government to free Julian Assange.
@@samiamcramer4truth I agree. It is apparent that our government has failed in its desires and/or attempts to help Julian Assange. He has done much for our country, and we let go of his wrists as he falls to the ground, so to speak---truly despicable.
Pure genius. I salute these brave and bold people.
I do too! Everyday heroes who was willing to make the ultimate sacrifice for a cause bigger than themselves.
Kind of like the founding fathers
Now thier killed or in prison!! Trump picked over 90 judges. So zero justice..AG is VIOLATING his position by being trump personal lawyer. They are arresting all protesters. One today said for no other reason than protesting he is going to prison. We are here again.
The FBI if full of leftists right now, I bet these hippies are in love with the FBI now a days.
One of the most successful KGB operations of the 1970s.
Hoover was a bigger criminal than any criminal he ever put away...a true mad man!
@Jean Falco Do you have a source to recommend on Kissinger? Thanks.
Hoover conspired with LBJ to murder Pres. Kennedy, Sen. Robert Kennedy, and the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. and framed innocent men for the murders.
And Jim Comey wanted to fill his shoes.
@Jean Falco Kissinger? Is your head in rectal defilade? Kissinger was still in Deutschland in 1924 when Hoover took over? Were the pen pals?
@@c.a.g.3130 he did.. They both stink
Wow! I'm a Vietnam vet and we were not in Vietnam so that our leaders could lie and deceive as they have done! I've always been proud of "whistleblowers" as they are people who are much more brave than any soldier I knew! We humans sometimes appear to be a pathetic lot! Thanks for the video and best of luck to all of us.
Thank you. You would know better than anyone that there’s a difference between soldiers and warriors. The warrior doesn’t just follow orders.
And why were you in Vietnam?
@@blackmatca6277 because all able men had to, duhh!
You're so cool, Sir
@@blackmatca6277 because the US forced able men to be in vietnam and traumatize them, disable them, leave them in poverty and forget them.
I love how this bunch of retirees and pensioners goes "oh yeah, we were badassss!" :) because they were!
Respect your elders! :)
Even Jerry Rubins, one of the Chicago Seven and a personal hero, got a job on Wall Street in the 80's to support his coke habit. sickening. I hated it. I was so uncool for an entire decade.
Respect the controls that were introduced to prevent government abusing its power against its own people. If any FBI agent at the time intercepted mail that would be a 4th amendment breach. Did the FBI agents take an oath to defend the constitution? Ooooops, looks like that's a direct breach of that oath. At that point they are hypocrites too.....
@@scottmurray5600 You could be in the Mafia and the FBI would ignore you, but a dissenter against violence made you a bad guy. Hoovers hated playboys too and during the war in Europe, he ignored a top, top spy (A real James bind type who stole millions off the Nazi's) because he was a womanizer and poor Hoover had to settle for snacking on a stick.
Holly Avila -if so he worked for it.
scott Murray -yes!
Of course The Man will say "This is not the way to achieve these goals, you should use the courts." [to discover secret malfeasance in the FBI, yeah, sure.]
whistleblowers are heroes.
Really embodies MLK's idea that the moderate often "paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man's freedom"
Except for Snowden and Assange. Those guys are dupes and useful idiots.
Apparently we still need help...as the FBI gave phony documents to a FISA court to spy on the Trump campaign....the FISA court didn't help...we still have an FBI problem.
@@busterbiloxi3833 Why?
Elaborate please.
Buster Biloxi they were heroes but the perception of what he did is not based in reality it’s that simple
As a twenty-something that wasn't around when these news stories were first talked about, I really think this is some of the most important work the New York Times can do. I believe that people need to have access to our history as a nation, and to have it in easy to consume videos like these is just wonderful!
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing"- William Burke, I would add good women as well. Well done you valiant souls you can be proud of what you helped to achieve.
This should be a shown in Hollywood movies!! An actual heist against the government based on a true story
WELL, You're Right -- Except We ALL Know The Ending...
:-)
Hellywood is Government
See th-cam.com/video/XjVcS4yGcSY/w-d-xo.html - it's a documentary not a drama, but it includes re-creations of the action along with more extensive interviews than what you see here.
Too bad, Hollywood Movies want to put America in a good light (Which is why they put a Yellowish filter when they show disputed regions or regions which are having negative stereotypes like Mexico , India , Middle East etc... )
So,,, it’s not going to happen in the near future
@@hilal_younus uh no? Many Hollywood movies paint the government in a bad light, probably more than paint it in a good light.
SO GLAD THE RETRO REPORT IS BACK!!!! Absolutely the BEST THING OUT THERE!!! THANKS!
justNAOMl amen.
Wow, ok, so who is going to direct this movie. I mean, they have to make this a movie now. The story is too good.
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What is it worth to make it if nobody sees it?! Look at Judas And The Black Messiah?! An equally important story made into a big Hollywood production and the studios just buried it.
True Rebels!! And Patriots. Strong willed!!
Much better way to do things than attack the Capitol.
Definitely Patriotic acts 👍
The good old days when the media did their job, true journalism...
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They all deserve Nobel Peace Prizes. Hoover....well, how he got the job in the first place is baffling.
Blair Phillips He didn’t do much get the job... as he invented the FBI... He was a Law unto himself!!! Paranoid and Racist!!
@@hazelwalsh3269 Or he just wore his prettiest dress and make-up ;-0
Same as Trump. On his knees.
Not baffling...they knew who Hoover was!!!!
Because he was efficient, ruthless, capable of callousness, a bit of a snob, and devilishly cunning
WE THE PEOPLE!!!!!!!!! Whistle blowers should be viewed as heroes, not criminals. It's saddening that this country has become, we the government, not THE PEOPLE!
He was just a Bully! Glad someone stood up to him!
In 40 years Snowden is going to be hailed as a hero. I won't be there to see it, but will turn in grave if it doesn't happen.
It will happen , it's inevitable ( not you turning in your grave though ).
Turning ? I'd like to have a punching bag .
Gene Dexter He is already a hero to me, and I am not alone.
No one is doing anything about it. No one is going up against the injustice. They are now rounding up the protesters. Most of the truth tellers are in prison now or dead
If no one does anything it is getting worse. because the news and the papers won't tell the truth.
Why not take a motion sensor with you, so someone can register your disapproval?
True American Heroes
ReturnoftheBrotha dude stfu and take your meds
Dirovame1 these people were straight up traitors.
JB Weld The greatest traitor was J. Edgar Hoover. He betrayed his oath to respect the law. He was the greatest menace to our freedoms since the Nazis.
@@jbweld6193 The FBI framed people, murdered people, protected the guilty, "infiltrated" the KKK with dues paying members who brought in plans for renewed racist terrorism, and destroyed untold numbers of lives of those who struggled for greater fairness, peace, environmental protection or decent working conditions. The FBI worked in league with organized crime. Check what was going on with the FBI high ups protecting Whitey Bulger in Boston, and profitting from thuggery. You have no idea what a traitor is.
@@Cyallaire and that somehow proves these two were not treacherous traitors? No. It just proves you dont like the FBI.
I love that they used Hoover’s own tactics and words against him... it was deliciously ironic!
That dude is still in love with his wife. Ya notice how he looks at her..
What a great wife!
These people are heroes. We need more people like them.
We have one now Edward snowden
@@utkarshkant3197 now we have dumbasses attacking the capitol 🤦♂️
Amazing - those are great Americans! Lots of courage and guts....
Snowden did the right thing. So did these people
An investigation of the FBI. OH how the tables had turned!
Yes.
Ok, so no one can do that now. In these days you'll just disappear, no one will hear from you again.
Edward Snowden? He didn't disappear
+HKM _ Edward Snowden had to seek asylum in Russia in order for our government not to take measures against him. He can never come back or he will disappear. He gave up his life so we would know what the NSA was doing. Yeah, so he pretty much disappeared.
he won't "disappear", he'll be tried in court and go to prison. Just like Chelsea Manning - who is now _out_ of prison. There's plenty of reason to be suspicious of government, but so far we're not Russia.
We are actually worse than Russia, because we pretend that there is a veneer of accountability when there is none. [if the only way to expose secret surveillance is breaking the law]
Many in the GOP have said he needs to be executed. "Life in prison is too good for Snowden," came from the FBI. [or one of the Bush goons, I forget]
they got some balls to pull off something like that... respect
Warms my heart watching these old timers relive their glory days, when they pulled some badass stuff.
Yeah we did and yea we were
I love learning new bits about history that I had no idea about. Independent (and investigative) journalism is vital. As are these whistleblowers.
Ordinary people doing extraordinary things. These are the crazy ones that Steve Jobs talked about. Only the crazy ones significantly change our existence very so radically. Thanks to them.
THEY Weren't "Crazy". THEY WERE: "BRAVE"!!!! INCREDIBLY...
:-)
They were right not crazy!
Ok➖thanks🤠❌™
@@lindamaemullins3086 Truthers❌™
10:33 The FBI said that the method that revealed how the FBI stole from United State citizens was, 'hardly justifiable". Said the thief who had his stolen things stolen by another thief! That's rich!
I saw a poster of Hoover in drag back in 68 and I have never seen one since..
The look of pride on John Raines's face as he listens to his wife talk about her role is awesome. My wife is so cool is writ large all over his face.
Such an amazing story! Thank you so much for creating and sharing this video!
The whole sick, sad episode of COINTELPRO shows the pernicious problem with government secrecy. How are you supposed have a government which is accountable to the people when its activities are hidden from them? And on the flip side, how is Law Enforcement supposed to investigate actual criminals if their investigations are public knowledge. It's a nuanced and difficult problem, and any particular legal posture has tradeoffs we have to accept as a society.
Webster knows good and well those documents would have never seen the light of day had we relied on "the courts".
wow...what gutsy people. they deserve medals.
Amazing story! Thanks for the interviews.
Great story!
Thanks for the video :-)
Stealing Manhattan soon 2018...
10:30 how would you go through the courts if the information was being hidden from the public?
The greatest heist that only 392K people have heard of.
And nothings changed.
Wassup
Knowledge is power. We stopped the Vietnam War.
I remember picking up the phone in m office in Washington DC in the 1960's and hearing a conversation between two other men. The wires got crossed. It was deemed OK to tap all international agency's phones. The World Bank had their own cameras everywhere and huge IBM computers to keep records.
That was awesome! Great job.
Hoover was a freak. Corrupt. Egotistical.
People always say we should learn from the past, what people forget is that bad people are also learning from the past. It’s not called illegal monitoring anymore it’s now called social media.
Jeff Peng very true...same with the bad people think their the good guys in their eyes.
Nice comment/good point🕊
Hard to learn from past when they rewrite history. Really study the civil war go very deep into it and you will see its been going on for a very long time
The ends definitely justified the means in stealing those documents.
True Hero'o exposing the criminal activity of a criminal government.
This is Amazingly cool. Right on!
Still going on now.
They should make a movie about this..., #TrueAmericanHeroes
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Bonnie's 11
How Hoover made it to that position strange and those years especially.
I didn't think Treason had a statute of limitation.
YOU COULDNT TRUST THEM THEN AND YOU CANT NOW SO SAD
well done!
"Thank you for your service" a real service for your country and not just killing poor people for the benefit of rich people
Hoover was a bunch of flamming sticks . . . If you get my meaning 😏
Yes.
Yes.
"....the method was hardly justifiable. their's a way to take on the unjust laws, through the courts.." Problem is, no one knew about it until it was revealed at which point they could take on the unjust laws - but not until then, and it never would have happened if not for these whistle blowers.
I didnt know this. Thank God those men put an end to his secret activities.
Why is the FIB building still named after J eager Hoover? His own records convict him
Awesome Job💪
Keep the government honest. That's the end goal.
This reminds me of Christoph Meili exposing UBS and its involvement in WW1 despite its country's neutral status.
I wouldn't be surprised if Switzerland knowingly held stolen loot for the Nazis and helped bankroll Nazi activities.
Thank you for posting your valuable video. I read his memoir "Freedom Betrayed", and watching videos like this helps me to acquire knowledge because I can learn about various aspects of him.
I hope one day someone will make a movie about this.
When elected Congressional officials fail to conduct oversight ..thank goodness for citizens of conscience...who are willing to risk all to keep our government accountable and Just.
Oh yeah they should've went through the court system and everything would have been just fine. ROFL
Thank you John for your help.
Copies wound up being delivered to my Alma Mater, Villanova U, showing that several professors were under watch by the Media (PA) Field Office.
brilliant.
Would be cool if we were taught this in history.
Absolutely great content.
If those brave young people, hadn't done what they did who would have thought ? Now look ! They are out of control again !
We need this kind of reporting now ! Thanks 🙏🏾 Julian !😘
In the 1980's there was a Russian comedian, who said.. "In Russia, We don't watch TV... TV watches you"
Today In America.... That is our reality. :(
You should move then.
@@mhayden5629 Shut up.
American hero's!
These men and women are heroes.
I live in this area and it's crazy to see all of this happening right outside my front door essentially (the Main Line)
wutzerface77 -hide,watch,take notes,pictures,film them with devices.
What the FBI was doing then seems relatively innocuous compared to what they do now. Also sunset time Federal policing agencies have dramatically increased. Spying, bullying, and abuse of power are the lifeblood of these Federal bureaucratic policing agencies.
First off United States belong to We the People not the federal government so that includes the FBI and the NSA we had the right to know what's in those departments
Hahahahahahaha “there’s a way to address unjust law in the courts”... seriously, and how does he suggest they otherwise uncover what they found out?
Hang on a minute. A physics professor asks you to become involved in a break-in at an FBI field office and you don't believe you are being stitched up in a Bureau sting operation or pawns in some inter-agency rivalry just months after the notorious "Huston Plan" was scuppered by Hoover? Here's the thing about "learning how to become an operator". It's pretty easy if you already are an operator.
Pity Edward Snowden is Portrayed as a traitor... When he is really a hero whistleblower!!
What can we do to help him? When Reagan was president, I believe he enacted some piece of legislation protecting whistleblowers.
Nsa if your watching,im a good boy. Just a regular Canadian man. Leave me be.
James William Irwin-Cowan -funny,bless your heart.
Ironically, the New York times would never produce this today.
Awesome and very informative video
This report left out how the FBI had "All" African Americans under surveillance.
Of course not all. Many.
Sometimes the courts don’t do justice. These “burglars” are heroes
Wow that was right near me. What an incredible story! I want to read that book now.
Well said.
the public yawned when Snowden spilled the beans .... oh well
Sad isn't it. People would rather die for media acceptance & crave attention rather then realize it's just all a tool & I think we've all been guilty of freely giving up personal info through social media. Facebook, Instagram & all others. All I know is I've already delt with it being used against me more than once.
"No alarms or security" Well that's par for the course when it comes to the Full Blown Idiots.
This should be a movie. This is something that young people wouldn’t do today. There is too much time to plan something like this, and young kids would rather do other things.
They’ve really come a long way as far as honesty right? I think Not!