@JonathanSteadman2003, it would be a great OS with lots of potential and for me learning to code C. But I can’t even it to boot on a 2014 MBP and 2011 iMac. On an Fujitsu Lifebook S7110 it boots but keyboard and touchpad don’t work. The only way I can get it working is as a VM.
@@zizlog_sound I could get it working on my laptop but I have issues with my WiFi drivers. So I can't connect to the internet. WiFi drivers seems to be lacking a bit in haiku os. But it's still pretty nice operating system.
Great video mate. Haiku is just plain fascinating to me. I also think it has one of the best UI aesthetics I've ever seen. Found a cheap msata for my x230, gonna dual boot along with Debian 12!
You didn’t try the window management candy that Haiku is specifically proud about. That’s when you connect up windows from different apps into a single frame and move them around as a single window.
Haiku is made the main thing, they revived something is very rare - old codebase which one was almost never used in that time, and saved very good after a lot of fixes
Another great video. Also a great video to listen to while driving home from my Midnight shift. Haiku does have some nice features( when I have messed with the OS from time to time) but after all the years I finally want to see a 1.0 version.
I suppose with a limited set of funds, and developers they can only go slow....which may lose people which then makes them go slower...but I hope that they manage to make it to 1.0 as you say...... and thanks for the kind words, but care I don't put you to sleep as you drive :-)
For a while back in the day I used BeOs 5 on my main system and I loved it. I also used it as a media server. I now have Haiku on a dedicated PC. It is interesting what you say about RISC OS. Some voices in that camp would like to rebuilt RISC OS on Haiku, much like Mac on Darwin.
According to the history BeOS was almost selected as the new Apple OS back in 1995. At the end Mr. Steve Jobs won with NextSTEP OS as the base of new Apple's Mac OS X. -- It would be great if you make a video regarding NextSTEP OS as a way to compare BeOS and try to understand why Apple chose it. That was the way Steve Jobs recovered Apple's control. -Kudos
I been considering freebsd and haiku OS for a few months, i been using q4os Linux and i used elementary os and Ubuntu for years. Im concerned with linux, since its being used by Microsoft and people are starting to find more vulnerabilitys with linux in general.
I like Haiku a lot. It's clean and fast and has lots of functional software that covers many simple daily needs. The only real show stopper is a modern full featured web browser. It seems that there are legal as well as technical issues with getting there, mainly as relates to non-free codecs and software. A pity but perhaps with time ...
@@RHTORASfor me that's essential. I don't like having to sign in. I am an adult. I know what to do and what not to do in relation to security. I just remember the day, and cherish it, when all you had to do was turn the computer on, and get to work. I want that again.
@@RHTORAS I know it's not really part of their security model, but process isolation usually depends on a multi-user system to work, so being single-user (unless Haiku does actually have "users" but just not multiple desktop sessions) could make the OS less secure.
@@charliekahn4205 so you are saying it is not that secure ? Possible... i am not planning to investigate it any further but i would love to hear an in depth analysis about security in haiku
Not gonna lie, I would use Haiku if my rx580 worked on it. FreeBSD already has issues like the drm module memory leaking and stack faulting my kernel when I resize windows too quick, Haiku just straight refuses to recognize it.
I presume you're referring to the AMD GPU. I've had no issues with using the RX580 on Haiku OS and it boots fine with it. Haiku OS right now only has rudimentary support for 3D acceleration, a few years ago Haiku OS was limited to 2D acceleration
hello. new here. i used unix and linux back in the mid-late 90's. of course been using windows since ms-dos. and mac forever too. but ... i'm not picking up win11, i'm still on win8.1 actually, and i'm seeing everything microsquish is doing and i don't want it. as for apple, my macbookpro in 10 years old and still works great, but i can't upgrade the OS anymore because apple wants you to buy new hardware even if your old stuff still works. soo... been thinking about going back to linux. but seeing people talk about bsd. and i've seen/heard of haiku a little. ... i remember there were some other ideas for os's as well... what were the different ideas for os's all i remember right now is microkernel vs monolithic, and i can't recall the names of any others .. did anything ever go anywhere? and i heard you mention the speed you noticed with haiku, i mean seriously with the advances in hardware over the past 3 decades everything should be amazingly fast always, except people coded a bunch of crap ... i would be happy to have old school programming thought come back for modern hardware, without the unnecessary junk of today.... i got away from being a computer nerd and being in the industry some time ago, and just a normal guy now.
You never lose the nerd.... it's with you always -) Well, alterative OS's like Haiku, Risc OS and AmigaOS4.1 all have a place, and depending on how much of a challenge you like, can offer great value... RiscOS in particular has a great build in version of BBS Basic that ties into the OS with easy to use machine code/assembler integration... Just think how things would today if Windows hadn't dominated the landscape.....Amiga, Atari, Acorn.... all these great computers..... I miss those days.... things were fun then.....
Originally I did record them, but cut for time sadly.... You will generally feel at home in the terminal for Haiku, with many of the tools for Linux & BSD being available, such as top etc....
I think you get a fair few..... LibreOffice is available as is quite a lot more. Here is a searchable database of software that's available (by category) depot.haiku-os.org/#!/?bcguid=bc1-MJYK&repos=haikuports&arch=x86_64&incldev=false&viewcrttyp=CATEGORIES&pkgcat=productivity
It's a nice and neat OS (and super fast) but it lacks of multi-user support, disk encryption, proper suspend/resume and all in all, the 'depot' (software repository) has a mind of it own (sometimes works, sometimes is unreachable). I would seriously like to daily drive it but for now, it lacks of too many important features (for me). Let's wait...
The GT 710 is an awful GPU that struggles even with high resolution video streaming. However based on benchmark videos on TH-cam it is at least capable to play minecraft so the driver seems to lacks proper 3D support. What about doing a video about RISC OS? Some days ago they released RISC OS 5.30. Since it's an ARM OS, you need an ARM computer such as the Raspberry PI. But I don't know if it's possible to do screen recording on such a dcevice. You could also emulate it, which would be easier to record, I think.
That's not a bad idea..... I can screen record it with an Avermedia card, so that's not a problem.... I heard that they have Wifi working as well, which is insane when you think that their funding must be much lower than FreeBSD's but they still managed it. For me I love that about these surviving OS's.... I'll put it in the ideas list.... thank you!
Not sure, I don;t thing they are available..... there is work going on for Vulkan drivers.... www.reddit.com/r/haikuOS/comments/107idge/haiku_now_is_hardware_accelerated_video_testing/
I downloaded this and it would not run just got the Haiku screen that froze. Gave up and downloaded a lite version of Windows with no bloatware. This video is driving me mad just some guy clicking on everything a mumbling, thumbs down.
Haiku os is such a great operating system. 🥰🥰🥰
I think so too!
But so far unfortunately it's useless in comparison with Linux or BSD, it's only for very small niche
@JonathanSteadman2003,
it would be a great OS with lots of potential and for me learning to code C. But I can’t even it to boot on a 2014 MBP and 2011 iMac. On an Fujitsu Lifebook S7110 it boots but keyboard and touchpad don’t work.
The only way I can get it working is as a VM.
@@zizlog_sound I could get it working on my laptop but I have issues with my WiFi drivers. So I can't connect to the internet.
WiFi drivers seems to be lacking a bit in haiku os. But it's still pretty nice operating system.
@@zizlog_soundworks best with thinkpads youst buy a old thinkpad
I've been following this project for over 20 years now. I cant believe its been that long. Good old Walter the Operating System 🐟
It's a lovely OS.... the developers ought to be proud for what they have achieved....
Great video mate. Haiku is just plain fascinating to me. I also think it has one of the best UI aesthetics I've ever seen. Found a cheap msata for my x230, gonna dual boot along with Debian 12!
Very nice video... now you have to show us the other unix... tribblix and open indiana
You didn’t try the window management candy that Haiku is specifically proud about. That’s when you connect up windows from different apps into a single frame and move them around as a single window.
I didn't know it did that..... I would have had a look if I knew...dang it..... but thank you, I know now!
@@RoboNuggie
Great Haiku video, but why do ALL first time users ignore the Quick start tour???
haiku os was with posix based on microkernel
The 32bit version of the OS will run the old BeOS binaries.
Very nice Video! I tried Haiku OS a view years ago and I really liked it! Keep it up! 😀
Thank you.....
hello robo, could you bring a video about plan9? (actually about 9front since plan9 is 32-bit only)
I'll put it in the ideas list :-)
@@RoboNuggiegod please do something with 9front
That's a neat little operating system! I just might give it a try!
Haiku is made the main thing, they revived something is very rare - old codebase which one was almost never used in that time, and saved very good after a lot of fixes
Another great video. Also a great video to listen to while driving home from my Midnight shift. Haiku does have some nice features( when I have messed with the OS from time to time) but after all the years I finally want to see a 1.0 version.
I suppose with a limited set of funds, and developers they can only go slow....which may lose people which then makes them go slower...but I hope that they manage to make it to 1.0 as you say...... and thanks for the kind words, but care I don't put you to sleep as you drive :-)
For a while back in the day I used BeOs 5 on my main system and I loved it. I also used it as a media server. I now have Haiku on a dedicated PC.
It is interesting what you say about RISC OS. Some voices in that camp would like to rebuilt RISC OS on Haiku, much like Mac on Darwin.
Thanks for this..... the RiscOS rebuilt on Haiku.... an interesting idea....
According to the history BeOS was almost selected as the new Apple OS back in 1995. At the end Mr. Steve Jobs won with NextSTEP OS as the base of new Apple's Mac OS X. -- It would be great if you make a video regarding NextSTEP OS as a way to compare BeOS and try to understand why Apple chose it. That was the way Steve Jobs recovered Apple's control. -Kudos
I been considering freebsd and haiku OS for a few months, i been using q4os Linux and i used elementary os and Ubuntu for years. Im concerned with linux, since its being used by Microsoft and people are starting to find more vulnerabilitys with linux in general.
I like Haiku a lot. It's clean and fast and has lots of functional software that covers many simple daily needs. The only real show stopper is a modern full featured web browser. It seems that there are legal as well as technical issues with getting there, mainly as relates to non-free codecs and software. A pity but perhaps with time ...
another downside rarely people talk about is Haiku works only on single user...i mean you can't add users...
@@RHTORASfor me that's essential. I don't like having to sign in. I am an adult. I know what to do and what not to do in relation to security. I just remember the day, and cherish it, when all you had to do was turn the computer on, and get to work. I want that again.
@@PHDWhom ok i see what you say... but it is nice to have an option...i mean i can have or have not the ability to make more users...
@@RHTORAS I know it's not really part of their security model, but process isolation usually depends on a multi-user system to work, so being single-user (unless Haiku does actually have "users" but just not multiple desktop sessions) could make the OS less secure.
@@charliekahn4205 so you are saying it is not that secure ? Possible... i am not planning to investigate it any further but i would love to hear an in depth analysis about security in haiku
Not gonna lie, I would use Haiku if my rx580 worked on it. FreeBSD already has issues like the drm module memory leaking and stack faulting my kernel when I resize windows too quick, Haiku just straight refuses to recognize it.
I presume you're referring to the AMD GPU. I've had no issues with using the RX580 on Haiku OS and it boots fine with it. Haiku OS right now only has rudimentary support for 3D acceleration, a few years ago Haiku OS was limited to 2D acceleration
@@ADIMM0 Wait, Haiku already got complete 2D acceleration?!
hello. new here. i used unix and linux back in the mid-late 90's. of course been using windows since ms-dos. and mac forever too. but ... i'm not picking up win11, i'm still on win8.1 actually, and i'm seeing everything microsquish is doing and i don't want it. as for apple, my macbookpro in 10 years old and still works great, but i can't upgrade the OS anymore because apple wants you to buy new hardware even if your old stuff still works. soo... been thinking about going back to linux. but seeing people talk about bsd. and i've seen/heard of haiku a little. ... i remember there were some other ideas for os's as well... what were the different ideas for os's all i remember right now is microkernel vs monolithic, and i can't recall the names of any others .. did anything ever go anywhere? and i heard you mention the speed you noticed with haiku, i mean seriously with the advances in hardware over the past 3 decades everything should be amazingly fast always, except people coded a bunch of crap ... i would be happy to have old school programming thought come back for modern hardware, without the unnecessary junk of today.... i got away from being a computer nerd and being in the industry some time ago, and just a normal guy now.
You never lose the nerd.... it's with you always -)
Well, alterative OS's like Haiku, Risc OS and AmigaOS4.1 all have a place, and depending on how much of a challenge you like, can offer great value... RiscOS in particular has a great build in version of BBS Basic that ties into the OS with easy to use machine code/assembler integration...
Just think how things would today if Windows hadn't dominated the landscape.....Amiga, Atari, Acorn.... all these great computers..... I miss those days.... things were fun then.....
Very nice 👌
What about terminals and shells for Haiku?
Originally I did record them, but cut for time sadly.... You will generally feel at home in the terminal for Haiku, with many of the tools for Linux & BSD being available, such as top etc....
Really wish this could become a daily driver OS...I would switch to it no question.
Same here.... it does have promise though....
Nice games... But how many serious applications can you get for Haiku OS?
I think you get a fair few..... LibreOffice is available as is quite a lot more.
Here is a searchable database of software that's available (by category)
depot.haiku-os.org/#!/?bcguid=bc1-MJYK&repos=haikuports&arch=x86_64&incldev=false&viewcrttyp=CATEGORIES&pkgcat=productivity
Amiga 4.1 is dead. 3.2 is the current leader of the branch that is still in development.
It's a nice and neat OS (and super fast) but it lacks of multi-user support, disk encryption, proper suspend/resume and all in all, the 'depot' (software repository) has a mind of it own (sometimes works, sometimes is unreachable). I would seriously like to daily drive it but for now, it lacks of too many important features (for me). Let's wait...
The GT 710 is an awful GPU that struggles even with high resolution video streaming.
However based on benchmark videos on TH-cam it is at least capable to play minecraft so the driver seems to lacks proper 3D support.
What about doing a video about RISC OS?
Some days ago they released RISC OS 5.30.
Since it's an ARM OS, you need an ARM computer such as the Raspberry PI.
But I don't know if it's possible to do screen recording on such a dcevice.
You could also emulate it, which would be easier to record, I think.
That's not a bad idea..... I can screen record it with an Avermedia card, so that's not a problem.... I heard that they have Wifi working as well, which is insane when you think that their funding must be much lower than FreeBSD's but they still managed it. For me I love that about these surviving OS's.... I'll put it in the ideas list.... thank you!
Nice video! But how about Nvidia drivers?
Not sure, I don;t thing they are available..... there is work going on for Vulkan drivers....
www.reddit.com/r/haikuOS/comments/107idge/haiku_now_is_hardware_accelerated_video_testing/
🙋
even the screen ratio is not ok???? who wants to try that... so 1990
That's a 90s OS. I like it! It needs Minesweeper.
I knew something was missing....
I downloaded this and it would not run just got the Haiku screen that froze. Gave up and downloaded a lite version of Windows with no bloatware.
This video is driving me mad just some guy clicking on everything a mumbling, thumbs down.
Very cool to take a look at a modern system 😂😂😂
hmm :-)