Installing ReactOS Nightly on "Official" Hardware - Is It Any Good?

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  • @MichaelMJD
    @MichaelMJD  หลายเดือนก่อน +122

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    • @ProbablyCrispyBacon
      @ProbablyCrispyBacon หลายเดือนก่อน

      sigma

    • @_lun4r_
      @_lun4r_ หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Who asked for sponsor

    • @Mahanagha
      @Mahanagha หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank God you haven't joined to the dark raid shadow mjends side😅

    • @therealyogibear2k225
      @therealyogibear2k225 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@_lun4r_no one asked for it, but without sponsorship, he wouldn't be able to make videos, apparently.

    • @HristoVidinov
      @HristoVidinov หลายเดือนก่อน

      hey Michael pls pin me plsssss man I'm a fan

  • @GoogleDoesEvil
    @GoogleDoesEvil หลายเดือนก่อน +2171

    Hi Michael! 0.4.15 has been branched for release candidate and is receiving fixes to prepare for release. Since your last video we started holding meetings more regularly and were able to resolve several disagreements.

    • @RemyJustice97
      @RemyJustice97 หลายเดือนก่อน +205

      I love that for you guys! Good luck and godspeed

    • @michaell.8748
      @michaell.8748 หลายเดือนก่อน +92

      I love the project! Keep going!

    • @jagagagaga
      @jagagagaga หลายเดือนก่อน +49

      HOORAAAAY! good luck everyone!!!

    • @pastalex421
      @pastalex421 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

      Good news for people who love good news

    • @Compact-Disc_700mb
      @Compact-Disc_700mb หลายเดือนก่อน +49

      YAY! ReactOS has so much potential! Glad to hear that things are improving!

  • @the_darkfire0
    @the_darkfire0 หลายเดือนก่อน +422

    That was awesome and I’d do it again in a heartbeat.
    I’m hoping to slowly address the AMD side issues as it’s becoming increasingly clear they’re going to work first.
    Thanks for the awesome retest :)
    -The_DarkFire_

    • @SockyNoob
      @SockyNoob หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Amazing!

    • @DaVince21
      @DaVince21 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Dude, you're awesome. Improving ReactOS on the fly like this is great.

  • @nauqi_
    @nauqi_ หลายเดือนก่อน +130

    michael mjd's commentary will singlehandedly save the ReactOS project

  • @mix3k818
    @mix3k818 หลายเดือนก่อน +288

    It's fun seeing ReactOS use the same UI elements as Windows Server 2003

    • @generallyunimportant
      @generallyunimportant หลายเดือนก่อน +45

      everything in windows is still using those ui elements lmao

    • @TorutheRedFox
      @TorutheRedFox หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      it's mainly based off server 2003 so that's why
      anything from other Windows versions is purely for compatibility reasons

    • @mix3k818
      @mix3k818 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@generallyunimportant Ech, maybe design wise. I think only the Explorer program has been left mostly untouched.

    • @IntegerOfDoom
      @IntegerOfDoom หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@generallyunimportant I don't think that warranted a LMAO.

    • @SoraHjort
      @SoraHjort หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      I keep telling people that Windows 2k, and by extension, Server 2k3, is the peak pure windows experience. Granted, 2k3 is a sort of cross between 2k and XP when it comes to the UI, but I find it counts towards peak Windows. It's a shame that the higher ups on the windows development have forgotten what makes Windows good...

  • @ScottMaday
    @ScottMaday หลายเดือนก่อน +55

    Hey Michael! I made a ReactOS driver for your exact Broadcom 57XX gigabit ethernet card, so internet should work out of the box for you. Life is busy though and I haven't gotten around to making the suggested changes required to merge it into master build

  • @Atiklyar
    @Atiklyar หลายเดือนก่อน +104

    Last I heard there were internal problems with the part of the ReactOS team that manages the release versions and led to such a stark contrast between Nightly and Release. It's a really understandable source of confusion for anyone that doesn't stalk every new bit of ReactOS information.

    • @BlueIsLeet
      @BlueIsLeet 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I mean look at it, it can't even open any webpage

  • @Firespecialstar
    @Firespecialstar หลายเดือนก่อน +345

    "..Hey it's michael from the future here"
    you know something went wrong when michael from the future comes to interrupt the video

    • @midwestweirdo666
      @midwestweirdo666 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      You know something goes wrong when Michael releases a video, but everything goes wrong.

    • @Fletch_iz_ded
      @Fletch_iz_ded หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      You know something goes wrong when he uploads in general lol

    • @BOplaid
      @BOplaid หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why don't they just use the server 2003 dlls anyway? Why do they implement WineD3D?

    • @DemonicMeWasHere
      @DemonicMeWasHere หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes

  • @djtomoy
    @djtomoy หลายเดือนก่อน +180

    they’ve succeeded in recreating the nightmare of using a really old version of windows, what an achievement!!

    • @BilisNegra
      @BilisNegra หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      A reskinned versión version reporting version 4.10. 1998 (Windows 98 first release) or 4.90.3000 (Windows Me) is in order! (although some early Memphis version would be more bugginess accurate).

    • @MistahMatzah
      @MistahMatzah หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      "Imagine Windows 2000 except nothing works."

    • @supercellex4D
      @supercellex4D หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      @@MistahMatzah So just Windows ME

  • @xorwcnrssk
    @xorwcnrssk หลายเดือนก่อน +78

    ReactOS is a cool project and I'm glad it exists even if it's a long way off from being usable day-to-day

    • @davidtoth6568
      @davidtoth6568 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      And when reaches *usable* state, then fired.

    • @Hasse.Andersson
      @Hasse.Andersson หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Well... not to be "that" guy, or perhaps I am? IDC, Anyway ReactOS has been around for a long long time... And there have not been much improvement (from a user perspective) on the OS, it is still as unstable as it where when I tested it for the first time.
      And I think it will be a long long time still before it will be usable, if ever...
      Heck, even AROS (the AmigaOS recreation for x86 systems) are more mature...

  • @gdtyra
    @gdtyra หลายเดือนก่อน +49

    Just keep copying more files from Server 2003 until everything works

    • @mchenrynick
      @mchenrynick หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      Better yet, just install Microsoft Server 2003...

    • @monad_tcp
      @monad_tcp หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@mchenrynick that was the best operating system ever, eventually ReactOS gets there

  • @arthurparkerhouse537
    @arthurparkerhouse537 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    Very courteous of you to provide the seizure warning. I personally do not have seizure issues where I would need to skip the segment, but it's very respectable and shows your empathy and respect as a creator towards your audience. I'm new here, this is the very first video that I've seen of yours, and that little detail has encouraged me to subscribe to your channel.

    • @MichaelMJD
      @MichaelMJD  หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      I really appreciate the kind words! I feel it’s very important to put those in so I always make sure to. Thanks for subscribing!

  • @philtkaswahl2124
    @philtkaswahl2124 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    You can hear the Lovecraft-protagonist-grade madness in Michael's voice when he talked about everything he went through after booting into safe mode resulted in nothing but a black screen. Not to mention the giggle around the 25-minute mark.

  • @roddy7256
    @roddy7256 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    ive been following ReactOS for YEARS i mean like 12 - 15 this is by far my favorite in development OS out there, I hope it continues on to get bigger and better

  • @supervitu64
    @supervitu64 หลายเดือนก่อน +334

    Now do the Everything Goes Wrong version

    • @Emayeah
      @Emayeah หลายเดือนก่อน +66

      man i wish there is a "everything goes right" video where it works 1st attempt with no flaws

    • @MichaelMJD
      @MichaelMJD  หลายเดือนก่อน +219

      This is the everything goes wrong version 😅

    • @Emayeah
      @Emayeah หลายเดือนก่อน +35

      @@MichaelMJD fair hahaha, next time a everything goes right version?

    • @Mahanagha
      @Mahanagha หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      ​@Emayeah yeah We NEED THAT😂😂

    • @frstwhsprs
      @frstwhsprs หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      We need a Everything Went Better than Expected version

  • @ConstanceJill
    @ConstanceJill หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    Hey I noticed that your D531 is using BIOS revision A06, while Dell's website has newer revisions for that model (A10 and A12). Not sure how much or even if that would help with anything when it comes to running ReactOS on it, and I can't even find changelogs to check what they do exactly, but I guess since they bothered making those updates back then, they probably fixed some things. Obviously, if you want to try updating it, I'd use a stable version of Windows from back then.
    Also, a warning : revision A12 on the website is suspiciously recent and some people reported it being corrupt… may be something with them re-generating the latest updates in bulk with a newer certificate and not checking that the updated files actually work, so you might want to avoid that one, or perhaps try finding an earlier file on the web archive instead.

    • @MichaelMJD
      @MichaelMJD  หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      The dev I spoke with said the BIOS revision was fine, so I just left it on A06. I was also confused about the pretty recent date for the latest version on Dell's site.

  • @chpsilva
    @chpsilva หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    I love how sometimes the camera gets the OS/2 box at the background, as if it's smirking to all Michaels' attempts to bring ReactOS to life.

    • @Thales_WH
      @Thales_WH 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I always look at that OS/2 box too. I have one at home too :)

  • @KodiakWoodchuck
    @KodiakWoodchuck หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I played with reactos years ago. It's cool to see that they're still working on it.

  • @Indrid__Cold
    @Indrid__Cold หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Yup, this is a living 21st century example of what the PC hobby was like back in the early 90s. If I could reclaim all the hours I spent reloading and rebooting I'd be about 38 instead of 66.

  • @whtiequillBj
    @whtiequillBj หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    we can talk about how amazing it is that you can copy system files from Server 2003 and they WILL work with ReactOS!
    amazing that React is computable to the point it one CAN copy files from Server 2003!

  • @ApertureSciencePsycho
    @ApertureSciencePsycho หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    The CD thing is about the deprecated Win95-era optical API used in those games that doesn't work either on modern Windows versions nor ReactOS.
    Regarding the debugger detection it works like this: at the very start of the code it replaces a JMP (jump to place in code) instruction with all zeros (NOP, no operation) and right after that the JMP in question and the code that displays the error. Most CPUs will cache everything to run it in advance and changing the code mid execution would do nothing, but sometimes (including when a debugger is there), the cache will be discarded therefore the JMP won't work (it has just been replaced) causing the error code to run. This is often considered bad practice.

    • @hbm293
      @hbm293 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      NOP is opcode 0x90 on x86 and x64 CPUs, not "all zeroes".

    • @ApertureSciencePsycho
      @ApertureSciencePsycho 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @hbm293 , a quick search lead me to an old forum that says that 0x0000 decodes to "add [eax], al" but has no effect which means it's a NoP

    • @hbm293
      @hbm293 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ApertureSciencePsycho actually, the instruction 00 decodes to, is not a nop because it has side-effects.
      Suppose that eax contains the address of a valid memory area.
      Then, `add [eax], al` would add the low byte (al) of the value of that address, to the contents of whatever is stored at that address, thus, modifying what's there.
      In particular, if eax == 0, there would be a NULL access being done, and your program would crash.
      So, this is NOT a no-operation.

    • @ApertureSciencePsycho
      @ApertureSciencePsycho 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @hbm293 idk that old forum guy knows better

  • @robertsantiago7383
    @robertsantiago7383 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I totally agree with the Release vs Nightly confusion. I've inly used the Release because I didn't want to be bothered with a Nightly test version and its problems. I guess I'll be downloading a Nightly tonight.

  • @hyperturbotechnomike
    @hyperturbotechnomike หลายเดือนก่อน +99

    GTA VI will release before ReactOS has a stable. We may even get Half-Life 3 before we see any sort of half-decently working ReactOS build.

    • @ronture8279
      @ronture8279 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      We'll see about that.

    • @DanTDMJace
      @DanTDMJace หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@michalthekindInstall ReactOS on the AI to escape it

    • @Gocunt
      @Gocunt หลายเดือนก่อน

      >

    • @AureliusR
      @AureliusR หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Why be so negative? What does that get you in life? Other than everyone noticing how negative and pessimistic you are.

    • @hyperturbotechnomike
      @hyperturbotechnomike หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      ​@@AureliusR My opinion can be seen as optimism, realism or pessimism. Depending on the perception of the observing individual.
      When i first read about ReactOS in an IT magazine, i was a juvenile. Now i have a wife, a house and achieved my major life goals. ReactOS still hasn't made much progress.
      If HL3 will ever be a thing, it's gonna be within the next 10 years, i assume. So it isn't wrong to expect it to be released before ReactOS becomes useful.

  • @davidinark
    @davidinark หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    15 minutes into the video and I have to say this is the best commercial for nightly builds being spectacularly awesome that I have ever witnessed! Ha ha! I believe your take on nightly builds was spot on. Thanks for gaslighting us, Devs, that’s great.

  • @joshka7634
    @joshka7634 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Wow. ReactOS has really captured the experience of dealing with Windows driver installs from the 90s/00s perfectly.

  • @toddhowarddd
    @toddhowarddd หลายเดือนก่อน +257

    Reverse engineering windows seems like a weird masochistic thing to devote your life to

    • @the_darkfire0
      @the_darkfire0 หลายเดือนก่อน +64

      yes

    • @SameriddAndCave
      @SameriddAndCave หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      It's kinda sad as theres no need for it considering the adancements of wine and kernel

    • @ashisharky
      @ashisharky หลายเดือนก่อน +41

      ​@@SameriddAndCave nah it definitely has a reason to exist still as a fun hobby project

    • @samirrrrrrr
      @samirrrrrrr หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      fr

    • @Dragonfire511
      @Dragonfire511 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Based, to be honest.

  • @Kaverian
    @Kaverian หลายเดือนก่อน +88

    I get something to watch while eating

    • @vista6009
      @vista6009 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Bro ain't no way I'm 1 second Earlier than you 😂 what a coincidence

    • @Plantera2electricboogaloo
      @Plantera2electricboogaloo หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      im eating rn lol

    • @Kaverian
      @Kaverian หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@vista6009nah i beat you by approx: 10.871 milliseconds

    • @Mahanagha
      @Mahanagha หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I was eating 1 min ago

    • @mr_0_0
      @mr_0_0 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Finished my dinner while watching lmao​@@Mahanagha

  • @atarixle
    @atarixle หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Michael, this is a great video! You made the wanted follow up, you installed it on real hardware, you came a long way further than I ever did. Thank you for sharing these experiences!

  • @danuel-vit12
    @danuel-vit12 หลายเดือนก่อน +89

    ReactOS is Back

  • @hawk_7000
    @hawk_7000 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    For a more mature project I think your reasoning about release vs nightly makes perfect sense. In this case I think the difference is simply that every release is also pretty experimental, and with the latest release years out of date it may well be that the current status is better no matter whether there is a new release or not. Completely agree that it's a communication problem having the project web site directing people to use said old release in that situation, though.

  • @GiovanniCamellini
    @GiovanniCamellini หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks to you yesterday I came to know of this OS I didn't know anything about. I'm currently compiling it under linux and everything went fine so far

  • @ishaqahmed._
    @ishaqahmed._ หลายเดือนก่อน +116

    and as expected, everything goes wrong EVEN ON OFFICIAL HARDWARE. wow.

    • @danielktdoranie
      @danielktdoranie หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      I know right! LMAO
      ReactOS, go home you’re drunk 😂

    • @squiddu
      @squiddu หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      a shame the stuff that isn't supported yet doesn't work! wow!

    • @shadowopsairman1583
      @shadowopsairman1583 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@danielktdoranieit's Alpha testing...

    • @joe--cool
      @joe--cool หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's not surprising that securom, safedisc and other copy protections don't run on ReactOS.

    • @techgaming-on4wg
      @techgaming-on4wg หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@shadowopsairman1583yeah but was in alpha for 2 decades

  • @dsouth7754
    @dsouth7754 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    The thing I've learned with most nightly builds for any software is that generally, most show-stopping regressions since a latest "stable" have been corrected. The only thing I've ever seen contradict this is with Debian, where stable actually means willfully putting effort into tanking your install.

    • @ArchLars
      @ArchLars หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Maybe its my Linux brain but when I think stable release I think the release that works the best to the level that the project is at, while "nightly" or "unstable" is for the cutting edge releases that have additions and changes that are tests and make the release less robust as a result, then when that testing is done and its as stable as possible they move that to stable?

    • @Winnetou17
      @Winnetou17 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Unfortunately "stable" is a bit of a loaded term
      It both means a) doesn't crash (what most people think of) and b) doesn't change radically (what Debian stable is most about)
      The idea of stable is that if you have a workflow and you keep staying on that stable version, it won't change, you'll be guaranteed your workflow will keep working and you won't have to change anything (or worse, realize that your very weird, wacky, way of doing something doesn't work anymore)

    • @DaVince21
      @DaVince21 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My experience with it is that it fixes things from the stable release, and breaks other things that might have regressions. Just the nature of the beast, I suppose.

  • @W1ldTangent
    @W1ldTangent หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Good to see nothing's changed in decades with ReactOS, still a dumpster fire just like its inspiration. Truly, one of the OSes of all time.

  • @pelgervampireduck
    @pelgervampireduck หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    maybe in 2050 they'll be able to be compatible and run like win 2000! yay!

    • @petermmm42
      @petermmm42 หลายเดือนก่อน

      in 3100 right as GTA VI releases they will release the one that's up to date

    • @sonicSnap
      @sonicSnap หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@petermmm42 hate to break it to you but that joke doesn't work anymore gta 6 got a release date LOL

    • @petermmm42
      @petermmm42 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sonicSnap who knows what if it gets delayed a whole bunch like ksp2 so in that hyoer specific situation my joke works

    • @sonicSnap
      @sonicSnap หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@petermmm42 i mean it could but the release date took so long and is technically vague enough that i doubt it'll go that way

  • @Armi1P
    @Armi1P หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    An OS that has been in development for like 25 years doesn't even have working drivers for the official hardware that it has been developed on, and nothing works on it.
    Seems like a good OS.

    • @superJK92
      @superJK92 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      To be fair the version ReactOS devs use has an nvidia GPU and not an AMD one

    • @MarcinKralka
      @MarcinKralka หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      It is not a easy task to reimplement an operating system that was originally made by probably hundreds or maybe even by more than a thousand of developers in a reasonable time. They still made a lot of progress lately, mostly in terms of stability of ReactOS from what I've heard. I believe that if the project was founded well, the progress would accelerate very quickly and we could get an actual beta in like few years.

    • @Winnetou17
      @Winnetou17 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@MarcinKralka Not only reimplement, but reverse engineer it, and make it so it's compatible. It's a lot of very difficult and tedious work

    • @chaos.corner
      @chaos.corner หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Winnetou17 Difficult and tedious and MS keeps moving the goalposts. But whilst the developers enjoying working on it is surely reason enough to do it, one has to question the value of a project in such a state after a quarter of a century.

    • @Winnetou17
      @Winnetou17 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@chaos.corner Well, they collaborated with and contributed to WINE, so I wouldn't say it was a waste, even if ReactOS doesn't ever reach an usable status.

  • @MrFreddy123
    @MrFreddy123 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I had totally forgot how absolutely *huge* the bezels are on those 2005-08 Dell Latitudes.

    • @ax14pz107
      @ax14pz107 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I have an old 42" LG TV that I've moved to a guest bedroom and replaced it with a 48" TV. The 48" TV is smaller than the old TV because of how big the bezels are. It was also like 2/3 the weight. Stuff is getting crazy small.

    • @Eddies_Bra-att-ha-grejer
      @Eddies_Bra-att-ha-grejer 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Why is having small bezels considered a feature? It feels kinda like wireless keyboards to me, some kind of stupid gimmick.

    • @ax14pz107
      @ax14pz107 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Eddies_Bra-att-ha-grejer bezels take up space. Smaller bezels mean a larger screen or a smaller monitor for the same screen size.

  • @keithmichael112
    @keithmichael112 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    The AC'97 driver brings me back

  • @Revolverocelot11
    @Revolverocelot11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Been keeping an eye on ReactOS since 2011. Its too bad they haven't been able to make more progress. I'm sure its difficult, but I hope this video brings it more support and speeds up progress.

  • @Pesthuf
    @Pesthuf หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I think all hardware that can still run XP / Server 2003 will cease to work before ReactOS ever becomes a viable XP alternative.

    • @646464mario
      @646464mario หลายเดือนก่อน

      ReactOS will become a viable XP alternative finally after Microsoft moves on from the NT kernel.

  • @dashcharger24
    @dashcharger24 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I just want to say thank you for your videos. :)
    For some reason I really like exploring older tech/software., but also like to see things outside my usually bubble (Linux/Android/MacOS).
    It also help me to fall a sleep, but I try to re-watch them when I'm awake again. Keep up the good work!

  • @ozzie_goat
    @ozzie_goat หลายเดือนก่อน +168

    It's called ReactOS because it reacts by crashing

    • @ishaqahmed._
      @ishaqahmed._ หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      reactOS' official reaction when you try to do literally anything on it: 😱😱😱

    • @Bushidounohana
      @Bushidounohana หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Rename suggestion: CrashOS.

    • @drdca8263
      @drdca8263 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I don’t think that joke works very well. Like, anything will react in some way, right? Saying that “because it reacts by crashing, we call it reactOS” just, doesn’t seem to make sense?

  • @kaitlyn__L
    @kaitlyn__L หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Gotta love the devs (or at least the person in charge of the Twitter account) making fun of you because "everyone knows the stable release sucks!" but... the daily doesn't seem that much better. Sure it doesn't crash, but it still doesn't actually work either. (Oops, I spoke too soon about crashing! Then, that poorly-written shibe meme is just being sore.)

  • @themacintoshnerd
    @themacintoshnerd หลายเดือนก่อน +59

    reactOS is gonna be a godsend for retro computing when it starts to mature. imagine a WinXP machine where you don't have to worry about security constantly and with the ability to get modern QoL improvements to it.

    • @SoulcatcherLucario
      @SoulcatcherLucario หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      that's a really good idea wtf

    • @RoshiGaming
      @RoshiGaming หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      I've been telling myself this for at least a decade or more now
      I'm still huffing that copium that we might have a stable release in my lifetime....

    • @inferi312
      @inferi312 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      it's a bit hard for me to understand the point of this whole endeavor. I use XP machines almost every day, and the problems with QOL features do not stem from operating system, but the hardware. No OS will ever make a single core machine fully usable again, and more powerful machines don't lack much in terms of QOL, even modern Internet is fully usable under XP with Supermium. I admire the developers' skills and passion, but it just seems they're working really hard to achieve something that would've been worth pursuing 20 years ago.

    • @themacintoshnerd
      @themacintoshnerd หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@inferi312 well for starters it’s a nightmare to actually update XP these days. If you’re like me and have an RTM release you either have to slip stream service packs into the installer and then install Legacy Update and then run that a couple of times before you’re actually up to date
      The main goal of this is just a FOSS windows which will I think many years in the future be extremely useful like how free dos is.

    • @ScienceOfThePS3
      @ScienceOfThePS3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​​@@inferi312 I seriously hope your XP machines are air gapped and are required for core services like embedded systems for a business with no suitable replacements, else you are a fool to keep using it in this day and age.

  • @Great_White_Great_White
    @Great_White_Great_White หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    ReactOS Team: **Takes 20 years to make a Windows 2000 clone that can't even install drivers properly**
    Thanos MJD: "Fine. I'll do it myself...."

  • @Azuris190
    @Azuris190 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    So, it is the Nightly MJD Frankenstein 2000 Version now.
    Edit: Very nice that you got the Help :)

  • @angelthingjenny
    @angelthingjenny หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I'm not gonna lie, even after being mortified by how much of a nightmare getting it that far was, seeing Halo launch in an open source OS and it actually working relatively fine for the hardware it was running on semi-natively still had my jaw drop.

    • @SidcupRC
      @SidcupRC 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      But doesn't it use code from the WINE project? Is it even 'native'?

  • @Vienna3080
    @Vienna3080 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I have been eagerly waiting for this video

  • @branhicks
    @branhicks หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    It's funny how shocking the size of the bezel on that laptop was. We've come a long way

    • @oofcloof
      @oofcloof หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      It’s actually because this model shipped with two LCD sizes, and instead of redesigning the entire housing for the cheaper panel, dell just put it on the same chassis and thickened up the bezels lol

    • @oofcloof
      @oofcloof หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If you look at something like the PowerBook G4 Titanium or the Latitude C840, their bezels are nice and thin

  • @sdgx0
    @sdgx0 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Micheal i say you should ask people who know how to code and test to join up with reactOS team and give them a helping hand

  • @MA78yt
    @MA78yt หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Fun fact: Mizu is japanese for water, so the Mizu theme is probably supposed to look kinda like a water theme.

  • @zaxchannel2834
    @zaxchannel2834 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'm honestly pretty impressed this works at all

  • @BaDitO2
    @BaDitO2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I love that there is a dedicated team of software developers who do their best to pack all of the worst aspects of the windows XP era into one package

  • @miro007ist
    @miro007ist หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You make some of the best tech videos on youtube

  • @Z098
    @Z098 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I am pretty sure the ReactOS CD drivers don't work with DRM schemes used by Half-life Blueshift or PONG.

    • @chaos.corner
      @chaos.corner หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fun thing is, if you put the CD codes into Steam, the games will be added to your library. In fact, my HL code got me HL, Blue Shift, Opposing Force and maybe some others too.

  • @wcdeich4
    @wcdeich4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Is it fair to call ReactOS a zombie OS? It seems like their project has staggered on, not fully alive or dead for soooooooooooo many years.

    • @sorenpx
      @sorenpx 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Totally. I first learned of it in the late 90s. The fact that they are still tinkering with it without it being any further along than it is just makes me shake my head. I would think by now the OS would either be essentially completed or they would've given up.

  • @seshpenguin
    @seshpenguin หลายเดือนก่อน

    Honestly super cool that your videos are able to inspire more development and changes on ReactOS

  • @painman2260
    @painman2260 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for making this video I was wondering if anything had changed I hadn't seen anything recently.

  • @gentuxable
    @gentuxable หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Stable does not mean less crashes. Stable means the public methods don't change in subsequent sub-releases. It is a very important difference and one that may prohibit a new release because some APIs are still work in progress and freezing them now may make something way harder to implement later because now it has to remain stable otherwise other components need further reworking.

    • @Winnetou17
      @Winnetou17 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you! I wish more people would get this. Same with Debian stable, many people don't get that stables doesn't just mean that it doesn't crash.
      Maybe we should invent a new term for this, like "steady".

    • @tehaiks
      @tehaiks หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think you might be missing a bit of the bigger picture here. I could be wrong, but doesn’t "stable" usually imply reliability for most people? It suggests fewer crashes and a more dependable experience. The idea of a stable API might be better captured by terms like LTS (Long-Term Support), which emphasize consistency over time. To agree with previous comment, If most people misunderstand the term, it might indicate that "stable" isn’t the best choice for conveying this specific meaning.

    • @gentuxable
      @gentuxable หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@tehaiks I think you might be missing the fact we're talking about ReactOS, are you seriously considering calling anything LTS about it, that's just crazy to even think about that. And no, LTS means your programs and dependencies stay functionally the same for a long time and only get bug and security fixes and nothing else.

    • @tehaiks
      @tehaiks 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@gentuxable fair enough, thanks for the knowledge drop. :)

  • @AROAH
    @AROAH หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I wonder how much other hardware will work if you copy over drivers from a Win2K/XP/Server2K3 install.

  • @ABwebGamesFan
    @ABwebGamesFan หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    where is the "but everything goes wrong" in the title?

  • @robertsteel3563
    @robertsteel3563 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I am currently watching this on a Dell Latitude!

  • @hblaub
    @hblaub หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    It's like Windows XP - and XP (NT 5.1/5.2 kernel) was mostly used with 32 bit software. While there was a x64 version, who cares, except for big databases.

  • @88tx
    @88tx หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    3:30 bro just spent two and a half minute yapping to the trollers lmao

  • @greggster990
    @greggster990 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I will never use this but for some reason it makes me so happy someone is doing this.

  • @sikleqt
    @sikleqt หลายเดือนก่อน

    So much work! Thanks for the videos ultimately! 👍

  • @AddlerMartin
    @AddlerMartin หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yeah, new video! Let's goooooooo (I love to listen to these videos as podcast while I cook. For real. Sometimes I even go back to old videos to do so)

  • @MCrex007
    @MCrex007 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think the point of not just making another release is, they'd have to make a full release every night for it to not be irrelevant. As soon as a nightly build comes out after that release its probably better, and it gets better every night.

  • @nobbybrown8056
    @nobbybrown8056 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you for this video. I had downloaded it and was going to install it on an old pc, but, now I've seen it (NOT) working, I'm going to give it a miss. Whilst I'm happy to fault find and spend hours getting things working, this does not apply to my gaming time, I've done all that already, now it's a must for me to just turn the system on and be gaming two minutes later.

  • @jeffreycole2816
    @jeffreycole2816 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Fusion power plant and ReactOS are always 20 years away from viability...

  • @CremasPond
    @CremasPond หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    A ReactOS video without nothing going wrong? Good christ, what timeline is it!?

    • @TheCelestial
      @TheCelestial หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Not aged good in 20+ minutes ksks

    • @ThatLinuxDude
      @ThatLinuxDude หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Not this timeline, for sure.

    • @CremasPond
      @CremasPond หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheCelestial shh

    • @CremasPond
      @CremasPond หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ThatLinuxDude lol

    • @hyperturbotechnomike
      @hyperturbotechnomike หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      In a distant parallel universe Jeve Stobs from Macrohard has developed "ReactOS" to be shipped with the Engineulu Raspfruit 5150 PC. For over 20 years Gill Bates tries to re-write an older version of it, which he called "Windows". It's the same universe, where a submarine built from rubber sank and over 100 years later an oceanliner called Rockton Stush had a gigantic titanium explosion on the same spot and where Russia dropped two Nukes on Greenland to win the second climate war. //

  • @RISC-VLIW
    @RISC-VLIW หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your tech videos bring a smile to my day, tysm

  • @thepuzzlemaster64
    @thepuzzlemaster64 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Unless I'm missing something, you'd think the official testing notebook for ReactOS would at the very least have the bare minimum working on it with how long it's been in development.
    Still, reverse-engineering the NT kernel is quite the feat, so it's understandable that it'll take a good while for everything to get up and running properly. Wonder how many of these bugs in this video alone got fixed after it was posted. At least the test-bed will be more usable for testing-out games and GPU-related stuff. All that's missing now is the audio.

  • @KevinFarleyWV
    @KevinFarleyWV หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm glad this project exists and I'm glad people are working on it. But every time I've tried to touch it and run it, it's been a complete nightmare.

  • @Snufflegrunt
    @Snufflegrunt หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    They’re testing on the same laptop I used at work 15 years ago? Nothing else? That explains it.

  • @frankwalder3608
    @frankwalder3608 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This ReactOS reminds me of Windows NT 3.5 because it has a lot of promise, but very few device drivers.

    • @charliekahn4205
      @charliekahn4205 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's based on 5.2, so 5.1 drivers don't work and 6.0 drivers don't work. There's not much that got released for Server 03.

  • @mmilerngruppe
    @mmilerngruppe หลายเดือนก่อน

    fucking around with drivers and fucking up the system gives me warm nostalgic feelings.

  • @rautamiekka
    @rautamiekka หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Considering the OS is so buggy+unstable to begin with, even something like nightlies being more stable (or better in general) makes perfect sense.

  • @webluke
    @webluke หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    43 minutes of Michael inflicting pain upon himself trying to make some obscure computer thing work.

  • @KunjaBihariKrishna
    @KunjaBihariKrishna หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The ReactOS auditing drama on Wikipedia is a fun read

  • @ahmed_samy1
    @ahmed_samy1 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dev - it works on my computer
    Project maneger - we are NOT gonna send your computer to the client
    “MJD guy entered the chat”

  • @8bvg300
    @8bvg300 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Glad to see the developers seeing the positives in your video and implementing changes.
    Its a shame its not in a more solid position but hopefully this will change.... And not too far in the future 😅

  • @Dr.Mohandes
    @Dr.Mohandes หลายเดือนก่อน

    it's always fun to see another react os video

  • @milasudril
    @milasudril หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    As long as a project is in release candidate, you should go for nightly builds.

    • @RemyJustice97
      @RemyJustice97 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Certainly that's been my experience lately. Just tried the Dreamcast emulator Redream for the first time, the "stable" build had really egregious render artifacting and was significantly outdated compared to the developer build. Thankfully they have an active discord with some very kind people willing and able to assist

  • @sorengeti69
    @sorengeti69 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I totally agree, if the nightly build is sooo much better, just tell it on the website to Download it instead of the latest release. I don't get why u just would let people which are non enthusiast or non developers and wanna try out for fun are so much misled to a shittier version.

  • @VelsDie
    @VelsDie หลายเดือนก่อน

    I feel blessed that Michael finally posted

  • @MakotoIchinose
    @MakotoIchinose หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ah yes, the largest problem with FOSS, heated responses over criticisms.

  • @droid806
    @droid806 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Congrats on doing this right! Good video

  • @ErazerPT
    @ErazerPT หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great vid, and man... does that take me back to some bad days watching the system hang after mup.sys and having to go dig for "what was it doing after that..." :D
    Anyway, might want to throw Quake (the original) into the "test toolbox". It was one of the few things that ran in NT4 (and thus one of the reasons i became near competition level at it). It's a pretty "neutral" game as far as tech goes, and you have bucket loads of different ports, supporting OpenGL, DX, you name it. Also very small and no install, +2 bonus.

  • @Flopster101
    @Flopster101 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The debugger message is probably coming from the CD copy protection that Call of Duty 1 has (only on the Singleplayer exe), and you could have bypassed it with a NoCD patch. It probably wouldn't have worked anyway because this game uses OpenGL exclusively, with the "DirectX 9.0b" requirement likely being only for the sound backend.

  • @ZeroHourProductions407
    @ZeroHourProductions407 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Well, it is a vote of confidence to say they have _official testing hardware._ Though as such, still not sure it's ready for prime time.

  • @ClassicGamerXP
    @ClassicGamerXP หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice bro I have a laptop similar to that the D620 keep it up I’m always interested

  • @kektikektus
    @kektikektus หลายเดือนก่อน

    WOOOOOO FINALLY I WAS WAITING FOR THIS

  • @ThePressurizer
    @ThePressurizer หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I love projects like this. It warms my black, shriveled heart to see people put so much love and effort into them. Wishing you the best!

  • @TommyCrosby
    @TommyCrosby หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    TBH, if anyone have the mind strenght of trying ReactOS, they are most probably used to thinker with Nightly release...

  • @morgantrias3103
    @morgantrias3103 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    "huh I wonder if there's been any improvement since this vide-oh. 2 hours ago. Probably not then."

  • @Lampe2020
    @Lampe2020 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I have heard that the ReactOS team had a problem with their release pipeline so they couldn't push new versions as release, only as nightly. I don't know if that is true now or ever was, but that's what I heard.

  • @fairmania
    @fairmania หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You are a man of infinite patience, although your expert helper really kept you going. I would have wrought terrible vengeance on something, not sure what, but there would have been some breaking going on. Very interesting, but I may give that one a pass for now. Great video though!

  • @Gavinconaghty
    @Gavinconaghty หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sooo persistent. well done!

  • @crojasa06
    @crojasa06 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's not a Michael MJD video if things don't go wrong during (or after) an install 😂 as a side note: you should definitely, 100%, play Diablo and Diablo 2. Both incredible games!