How to fit UPVC beading to a shower tray
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ย. 2021
- In this video I install some UPVC quadrant beading to a shower tray. This is often the only solution to get a waterproof seal, if the gap between the tiles and the shower tray is too large. This can also be done to the side of a bath, if there is a large gap. This is the second video in the series, how to clean the old silicone off and re-apply new silicone can be seen in this video- • How to reseal a leakin...
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Links to products used in this video and the other video in the series-
Silicone remover chemical - fave.co/3jDZqbq
Silicone removal tool - fave.co/38B1M4s
DOW 785 sanitary silicone- fave.co/3gW3p1e
Blue paper towel - fave.co/3gYPCqu
Methylated spirits - fave.co/3mY3i98
Super glue- fave.co/3jFzYly
glazing packers - fave.co/3jFLsWy
ZEP mould and mildew remover- fave.co/2WOQ0Rx
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This video is the final one, following on from this video- th-cam.com/video/6o5JVxvWuhQ/w-d-xo.html
I hope everyone has a great Sunday 😉
Super video. Have followed your instructions and shower looks brilliant. Definitely looks better than before. Will make sure it’s watertight in the morning lol.
I’m glad you found the video useful
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Awesome work looks good!
I agree what jim o'sullivan said about putting silicone on cut angles before fitting and allowed to squeeze out.
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Super helpful to show the process step by step, but to have a list of products used, for a complete novice like me, is the best as I couldn't attempt it without knowing what I need. Thanks
Glad it was helpful! 👍
A very thorough job, well done.
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I just used this same system on my bath tub which has a mixer shower tap system. With a screen door (of course the shower screen door leaks ha ha) But the quadrant scotia is a very good double barrier against the bath tub and tiles on the wall. Very good job by the way 👍
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Lovely neat job there! Fingers crossed no more leaks.
Thanks, I'm sure it will be fine now.
Thanks also for your comment on the other video regarding the silicone. I checked with DOW support and they confirmed that 785 is fine for this job 👍
No messing mate, great video 👍 👏
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PVC scotia beads also work on vertical corners. Silicon should be put on cut angles before fitting and allowed to squeeze out.
Use window cleaner fine spay before running Fugi tool along...providing you have a proud continuous silicon bead showing.
Saves a lot of clean up.
Really nice job 👍☘️
Thank you! Cheers!
Nice job........good video.........thanks !!!
Thanks for watching!
U/h a good neat job. Thanks
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Good Job!!
Thank you! Cheers!
Awesome job! I’m about to buy my first house and going to try silicon sealing. I just wondered what having beading does?
Normally, you do not need beading, but there is a considerable gap between the tray and the tiles in this example, so a PVC bead has been applied to ensure there are no leaks 👍
Great job. The way it should have been done in the first place.
Is it correct not to silicon the inside of the door/frame to allow water to escape? Only the outside should be siliconed?
Yes, that is correct in all the shower enclosures that I have seen. This enclosure had been sealed on the inside, so I scraped that away when I was doing this job.
I once spoke to a manufacturer and they said that no matter what you do, the water will always get in somewhere. That's why you only seal the outside of the enclosure, so that the water inside can drain out, into the tray 👍
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Just wondering if white CT1 would be a good option for this - given that it is resistant to mould (apparently).
It should be fine. Most good quality sealants/adhesives will work 👍
Great video 👍🏻 btw I’d just like to ask off topic. I’ve got a gap in a wall next to a upvc door frame. Would I need to fill it in with cement or mortar. Never worked with the stuff before so I don’t know so thought I’d ask your opinion?
Frame sealant would be best, it's similar to silicone sealant, but a slightly different formulation.
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I've heard it can make it neater if you spray a weak mixture of washing up liquid and water over the bead before using the scraper to form the beads.
Yes, it can help, but not always necessary.
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You can but if you do this you can't add any more silicone to low spots because it won't stick. If possible always best to do it dry as shown in the vid then you can always add more.
@@caskwith believe me dont use washing up liquid or masking tape... the fugi kit is ideal
Grat job thanks
Thanks for watching! 👍
Any idea what would be the best tool to get rid of existing beading without messing with the tiles? (to then replace using above vid) i
You could try cutting it away using a sharp knife, or a multi-tool with a scraper blade 👍
Great video, Can I use this method if the tray is against a glass panel rather than a wall.
Yes, the silicone will seal to glass, as well as tiles 👍
What's the name of the tool you used in this video to remove the excess silicone?
Its a Fugi kit, made by cramer - fave.co/3Cd6pyh
They are excellent for tooling off silicone 👍
Man, you make it look so easy. Will need to invest in one of those Fugenboy things. In the past, I just wet my finger and ran it across 😂 now I know. Thanks for uploading the second part 👍
They are brilliant and so easy to use ;-)
Thanks for the comment
Nothing beats a wet finger.
Try the cramer tool set. Very very good and can clean up mistakes really well
I just did mine. I used upvc quater trim cable tray. I was looking for the quarter trim but didn't know what it was called and I asked a few people and explained what I was looking for but no one knew what it was I needed. So I went to my DIY centre and found the cable tray. I might order the correct stuff and do it again ?
As long as it’s not leaking, I would just leave it 👍
What about plinth not the kit make you own thanks
The gap at the top of my bath is bit big .Could you recommend something for around the top of a bath? Could I get this type of bead or something similar for around the top of a bath?
I was thinking of making a say 4inch high tile border on top of the existing tiles to try create create an overlap or reduce the gap at the top of the bath..
Sorry for the long question..
Hope you understand..
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Yes, you can get this in much longer lengths, I often buy stuff like this from GAP in Blackburn -
www.gap.uk.com/order-online/upvc-trims/white-trims/quadrant-white
I used tiles as you suggest, a while back in a rental property, but it did not look too good.
I have also used ceramic quadrant tiles - www.tilegiant.co.uk/ceramic-bathtrim-set.html
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Thanks for your reply.👍☘️🇮🇪
Great video did not even ocure to me that I could use uPVC beading around the shower tray. My sealent keeps moulding so have to keep redoing it this should hide that.
I've used it a couple of times, it is really useful if you have a larger than normal gap 👍
A bit late i know but when fitting the bead do you use an adhesive or does the silicone act as one. Thank you in advance
I used silicone to fix the beading, then sealed it all with more silicone 👍
@@ultimatehandyman Thanks for the advice. Job now done.👍
Spraying Soapy water over the silicone after spreading it also helps with excess removal and cleaning made easier
I did this to my shower tray a good 4yrs ago after getting fed up the standard silicone bead going mouldy. No mould so far.
Good stuff
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Do you remember what silicone you used?
Nice job, but I don’t get why you also put sealant in the gap between the tiles & tray. If it’s covered by the angle beading, why not just use spray foam to quickly seal the gap? Especially as it doesn’t shrink like sealant will when used to bridge a large gap.
I've never known sealant to shrink 🤔
If you want to use foam, that's fine 👍
Personally I wouldn’t off beaded over the metal corners I would off buttercup to them as going over the corner will prevent the pvc bead from being flush
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nice
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Sounds like you were stretching a bit there pal. We are getting too old to be doing these fiddley jobs🤪🤪😁
Yeah, the camera tripod did not help.
I was applying the silicone with one hand for quite a while.
Thanks for the comment ;-)
I’ve got two showers to re-silicone, not because they leak but because they’ve gone mouldy. Despite using high end adhesives! Gotta be my least favourite diy job
Yeah, it's not the best of jobs!
Best of luck with them
If you dry the silicone off after using the shower cubicle you won't get mould. It's a huge faff but worth doing to prevent mould growing in the first place.
Ace!
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Go to a roofing supplier that also sell facia products, just bought 19 mm for £5.00 at 5 mtrs in length
I normally get stuff like this from GAP in Blackburn - www.gap.uk.com/order-online/upvc-trims/white-trims/quadrant-white
But sometimes it's much easier to buy online, especially when you consider the time to drive there/fuel etc.
Thanks for the comment 👍
@@ultimatehandyman true
Remove the yellow from you tray with 40%vol peroxide and a uv lamp… makes it completely white again.. then just a quick hand polish using car polish and it’s back to new
I searched the internet a while back to find how to whiten the tray, but could not find anything that worked. I'll try this for certain, thanks 👍
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Is there a more modern looking heading that can be put? This looks old school
If you mean on the thumbnail - I don't make those, a friend of mine makes them for me.
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@@ultimatehandyman ah sorry I was asking about beading (not heading - autocorrect!)
@@madmanishp 😂 its a bleeding pain that autocorrect!
You can get different profiles, but I think you are limited to either quadrant or an internal profile for a shower tray. There are a couple of examples in this eBay listing- fave.co/3k1Ej2U
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I still prefer the masking tape method for silicone
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Wes, next time go to Eurocell, 5m length £6
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I have no idea why you would want to do this, such an 80's look, looks like you are trying to hide mould underneath and now Two failure modes (2 lines of sealant to fail) and much harder to maintain longer term. Just stick to one line of good quality silicone.
However, very good technique shown and a good quality finish
The gap was so large between the tray and the tiles, that this was pretty much the only solution.
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CT 1 would be better than the silicone
Belt’n’braces there…not ideal but no water is getting behind that! Only the grout can fail you now 😜
I'm sure this will outlast me 😂
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that will never leak. peace of mind at last.
Absolutely
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They don't last pissing time
It's an expedient way of sealing a shower tray or bath perimeter when they have been poorly installed/sealed in the first place. I've had to do this before when the only alternative would be to remove baths. tiles, trays, patch plaster etc. Most insultingly, I have had to do this when I have tendered for work, not got it, then customers call me back to put cock ups right on jobs quoted for but have been given to others. Pay peanuts, get monkeys.
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