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How to reseal a leaking shower tray | Silicone shower tray
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ก.ย. 2021
- A leaking shower tray can often result in water leaking through the ceiling into the rooms below. In most cases this is relatively easy to fix, although the job can be time consuming. The shower tray in this bathroom has not been touched for years, the intention was to replace the whole bathroom, but once the water started to leak through into the kitchen, it was time to fix the problem. Originally gaffer tape was used as a temporary measure, but after applying that I was busy for a few months and did not get around to fixing it.
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Links to products used in this video and the other video in the series-
Silicone remover chemical - fave.co/3jDZqbq
Silicone removal tool - fave.co/38B1M4s
DOW 785 sanitary silicone- fave.co/3gW3p1e
Blue paper towel - fave.co/3gYPCqu
Methylated spirits - fave.co/3mY3i98
Super glue- fave.co/3jFzYly
glazing packers - fave.co/3jFLsWy
ZEP mould and mildew remover- fave.co/2WOQ0Rx
UPVC beading- fave.co/3gYdHxH
This is a job that I put off doing for months (hence the mould under the gaffer tape). I was intending on replacing the whole bathroom, but then decided that was too much work, so decided to reseal the shower tray. In next week's video I apply a UPCV quadrant beading over the top. If you are going to reseal your shower tray, please put a camera tripod in the shower cubicle with you - then you know how difficult this job is 😂
I hope everyone has a great Sunday 👍
Strap a GoPro to your head instead :)
I used a camera in the shower cubicle, but then the police made me remove it
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Thank you for this and the following video! Just fixed my parents' leaky shower and it looks (and smells) one million times better.
Glad it helped!
The amount of times I have had to do this, twisting round to get in position. Very often, in fact nearly every time , the husband has said ahead of leaving for work "It'll only take him 10 minutes..
A good honest job. You did not need to show us "your own problem" Good tradesmen are honest like you. Bob, (in Somerset).
Thanks Bob 👍
That’s either a badly fitted tray/ tiling or the tray has dropped. Done properly you won’t even need cornice , just a small bead of silicone. Great preparation and it looks much better already before the quadrant
Thanks, I'm not sure what's gone on with the tiles or tray, but the tray seems solid.
In my experience, Silicone is often used as a filler material and not its intended use as a sealer.
The end result is uncured blobs of silicone which seal nothing. It's best to apply a thin bead of silicone between surfaces requiring sealing and draw it between the surfaces.
Thx for the content mate👍
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Think we can all associate with the ‘been putting it off for months’ - one of my least favourite jobs stuck in a small shower enclosure scraping that stubborn stuff off and trying to keep it neat whilst cramped up and getting grumpier by the second. Don’t envy you filming as well ! Thanks for sharing. 👍
Yeah, jobs like this are not fun. When I worked on site I used to get a right crap job every shutdown on a glass washing machine. I'd be knelt down, with my helmet touching a stainless-steel platform above, It took a week to do each washing machine (there were two). One year my back was sore for 6 months after doing that job!
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@@ultimatehandyman ok. I’ll take the shower sealant job. You can keep the glass washer 😄
These are a new home special where top quality tilers make the tray fully waterproof !!
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Have to say I love the "what a dick" said under your breath! That made me chuckle. Jest aside, the application of silicone was done really neatly, and credit to you in that you made a tricky job look easy.
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Once you've siliconed a few baths and showers you'll be seeking out the Bette upstand range of baths and shower trays. Also the silicone can go off quicker than you think, often it's worth doing half or a third of a run behind a bath then tooling it off then doing another stretch. I've had Dow silicone go off on me and start to tear and grab when tooling off a long bath run.
I once owned a house in Southport. I was siliconing the inside of the kitchen window, I put down a bead and the doorbell rang, I walked to the door and let my mate in, then went to tool the bead and it had skinned over, it was literally less than two minutes!
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I work in student accomodation we do something similar but with upvc window trim on 3 sides then gun it in white, has an instant impact makes it look nice an clean
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Good video. Only downside was it brought back many painful memories of similar experiences, ha ha , having owned a couple of rental properties in the past - bathrooms installed badly and tenants not looking after them - I’ve had identical experiences-
It’s great to see I did the right things having watched you. Good tip re meths - a bit cheaper than the yellow tubs of wipes from Screwfix
You just reminded me actually of a mate of mine. He asked if I could seal his bath, so I rock up with my stuff (he only lived around the corner from me).
The bath was not even fixed to the floor and could easily be moved, there was a massive gap. I told him that this was not a 5 minute job, he then said "should I tell the landlord" 😂😂😂
There was me doing a favour for a mate and he didn't even own the house 😂
Thats my shower! I'm fixing it Tuesday so perfect timing, thanks
Good luck with it ;-)
That was a job an a half thanks for the links great vid thanks for making and posting 👍
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What a ballache of a job. I have to do something similar myself soon enough. Not looking forward to it.
Original "work" was useless. Just silicon everywhere and hope for the best.
That's why I put it off for so long. Jobs like this are a pain in the backside.
Best of luck with yours 👍
FWIW I had trouble with silicone sticking to PVC in my shower (including 785) so I contacted Dow's technical support team. They told me that acetoxy based silicone (vinegar smelling ones) don't do well with PVC in general and recommended a neutral cure silicone instead. So I used Dow 785N on their recommendation and it worked really well, no more leaks and it's stuck really well. It's a little fussier to use than normal silicone but fine once you get the hang of it.
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Great to see a new video!!! All your videos are gold !!! ⭐⭐⭐
Thank you very much!
Having to do the same this weekend as ours is leaking too! 😡 although I’m suspicious it might be leaking from around the drain hole fitting, so I’m sealing around that also!.., enjoy these video’s 👍
Best of luck with yours 👍
Silicone is terrible stuff to work with😱 You make it look so easy. I always end up with it everywhere.
I always wear disposible gloves (just in case), but a lot of it is just down to practice.
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Very appropriate video haven't spent much of yesterday in work replacing the moldy silicon in 4 showers. Fortunately wasn't the best quality silicone used so came away ok. However if the silicone had been good quality I probably wouldn't have had to do the job.
Yeah, it's always worth spending that bit extra on decent quality silicone.
Someone told me about a guy on TH-cam that sealed a bath/shower using frame sealant 😂
Useful for getting my leaking glass shower door fixed by landlord's tradesman.
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Have a look at BT1 or CT1, the adhesive properties and elasticity of BT1 and CT1 would have been perfect for this job.
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Neat work as usual Chaz.
( Hate those silicone jobs 😏🙄
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Hi when I tiled by bathroom I used a plastic ¼ round that went under the tile and kept the water from going behind the bath, I have just put in a new shower and removed the bath as at seventy years old I was finding it difficult to get my leg up high enough to get into the bath and getting out was even more difficult. However, removing the ¼ round left a gap like your bath.
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Obviously you didn't tile the bathroom!! Whoever did it hadn't a clue - why the huge gap between the bottom tile and the tray. You have the patience of a saint!
No, not guilty of tiling the bathroom 😂
I think it was tiled over 20 years ago, the tiling in the other bathroom is even worse. I would smash them all off and re-tile, but it's such a large job and I have lots of more important jobs first.
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Great video really enjoyed it !! thanks
Glad you enjoyed it
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Great video, Thank you. Regarding the ceiling wall on the lower level where it has leaked, do you have a related video which would be able to link to on how to fix the impacted ceiling? I have the same issue and have left the issue for about a year, not caused too much of a leak, but wondering how to remove the leak/mold stains as I'd need to plaster and repaint.
I’ve not covered that in a video yet, as I’m waiting to replace both upstairs bathrooms here before I fix the ceiling. Normally I would cut away and damaged plasterboard and either replace it, by cutting back to the joists, or if the damage is not too bad I would just use a filler such as Gyproc Easi-fill. Then give it a light sanding, prime the whole area, then give the whole ceiling 2 top coats of a decent quality paint.
These videos might help-
Plaster a wall, or fill and sand- (same can be done with a ceiling) th-cam.com/video/6wa_m_RKWjw/w-d-xo.html&t
Gyproc easi-fill- th-cam.com/video/iM_FD403--k/w-d-xo.html&t
Mould removal- th-cam.com/video/1Vh43Tl5rWE/w-d-xo.html&t
Paint a kitchen ceiling- th-cam.com/video/BTOgT0cGFII/w-d-xo.html&t
This is exactly my shower situation
It’s a very common problem 😉
Nice job. I'm looking for a clear (not translucent) silicone to use in shower. I watched your old video with Bison Polymax which was truly clear, however it's not widely available now. Do you recommend any other clear silicon? Great vids by the way
The only sealant that I've seen that is as clear as the Bison is Adiseal - fave.co/3jP7Pc5
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Great content. Where did you get the bead finishing tool and how do you keep the tool so clean?
It's a Fugi kit, I've been using it for years. You can just wipe off the silicone using a piece of tissue etc. (I think there is a clip of me wiping off the silicone in the next video).
I used it in this video- th-cam.com/video/6vjTxTFL-k0/w-d-xo.html&t
There is also a fugenboy kit, which is similar but does not have the guides for when you are tooling off over tiles (or the tool sticks in the grout lines)
Ten-year-old video here (where does time go)- th-cam.com/video/jgcqi5LoLSI/w-d-xo.html
I bought mine from eBay - fave.co/3n5r03a
Just watch out though, as some kits do not have the tile guides (legs, not sure what the technical term is for them)
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@@ultimatehandyman brilliant. Thanks so much for the detailed info. Time to have a go, been putting it off too long and you have inspired me to crack on! 👍
Simple- Top vid! 💯
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Wow! That gaffa tape covering the failing,lol. Anyway great video considering the circumstances of a confined area. Hate doing jobs like that myself because of the small area. I've been meaning to ask someone who might know...... Like in a new bath install, is it worth weighting the shower tray down before applying new silicone so that once set and the weight is then taken out the tray may rise and not over stretch the silicone when in use ?. and next time you have to work in a confines are like that and you were saying about having to work with a camera, Maybe get a baseball cap with an on board camera mounting or a spring clamp with a flexible arm camera mount so it get the camera off the floor ?
I normally use a seal like this on baths- th-cam.com/video/tRweaE32_ks/w-d-xo.html
It guarantees that there will never be a leak, but you have to install it when fitting the bath (before tiling).
I installed a bath in this video- th-cam.com/video/cKqmvUyAVqE/w-d-xo.html
If there is any movement at all in the bath, I pack it up using blocks or wood. Then fill the bath with water before siliconing.
I think a camera on my head would be really annoying, as it would catch every head movement. I tried a small Go Pro once, but the sound quality was terrible.
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many years ago my landlord thought our shower room had a leak from the sealant or the wastepipe ,had same plumber out several times and he said he didnt understand why it still leaked ,turned out the grout in the tiles was so degraded a lot of water got behind and seeped down into the ceiling below
It makes you wonder why they don't develop a grout which is 100% waterproof!
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@@ultimatehandyman I’ve heard epoxy grout is 100% waterproof, but haven’t seen it used anywhere yet. Maybe in a few years.
@@ultimatehandyman shower panel boards are good as they cover a whole side in one piece so no grout. James at plumberparts channel has used them in some of his videos.
I was wondering if you had a concrete floor how would you install a tray like this would you chasse out a channel in the concrete floor and then raise the bass of the tray ????
I've never fitted one to a concrete floor before, But I would probably build a platform using some 3/4 inch external plywood and 4*2" timber. You can get riser kits for shower trays, but I'd rather make something myself
Example of riser kit- fave.co/3yO8jDp
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is it ok to backfill with cheaper silicone or filler ,and use premium for the surface layer ? or would they not bond together
I'd use the same stuff to be honest. It's only £6 per tube and one tube did the whole job - although I used another tube to fit the quadrant (in the next video)
Hi UH, are any of the hybrid sealants as good as traditional silicone products for sealing shower trays, bath tubs, basins etc.
Not sure, I think a lot of them are just marketing hype to be honest!
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What’s the largest gap do you think that’s acceptable for a silicone bead?
Probably about 10mm
Thank you for sharing,
Ultimate Handyman :D
I've had "soap scum?" on my shower walls... found vid about mixing 50/50 Blue Dawn n Vinegar. Dawn keeps the Vinegar in place. Leave it there for 30mins and scrub :P Works alright but hope you have an exhaust fan xD I bet that Industrial Cleaner u used in this video would be better. I'll have to keep an eye out for that :)
I tried a few tile cleaning products that were available at most supermarkets, but they did not touch the soap scum. The Zep was brilliant though, even though it's a mould and mildew remover, rather than a tile cleaner.
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can u use expanding foam to fill the gap and trim it
No, I wouldn't do that. Foam is waterproof until it's cut, then it seems to be absorbent.
I always use silicone for gaps like this 👍
Question: I need to reseal around the top of the bath as when there is water in there is a gap of a few mm, if I seal the bath with water in then when set empty the bath will the seal be good still
Yes, it should be fine.
But if you can it's best to remove he bath panel and ensure there is sufficient support under the bath. You can used wooden blocks etc. to support the bath.
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@@ultimatehandyman good point, but we rent from the council so that would be a job for them, reseal a bath is a job for me.
Thanks for the advice
What you’re opinion on using “Tec 7” for the sealant on the shower tray?
Just had a quick look, and it does not seem to contain a mould inhibitor (if it does contain an inhibitor, it should be fine). It is however twice the price of the DOW silicone.
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Good job u/h.
Thanks Mike 👍
13:00 :D lol that's me all over.
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Hopefully we don't need to wait too long for the second video. I've been putting this job off in my house for far too long. Who knows, I might take a camera trips in with me to see how difficult it was for you. However, as you had a problem with a tripod, there's no way I could cope 😂
It'll be live next Sunday ;-)
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A caulking spreader, haven't seen that.
What's the orange tool called that you're using to get the bead correct ?
It's a Fugi tool- bit.ly/3qOd26I
It's always a pity the makers of silicone don't have a way of putting the excess silicone that comes off with the likes of the fugi tool back in the tubes. Maybe that could be your next invention.
You could re-use it if you wanted to, but it's not expensive and probably not worth the effort for most people. Perhaps you could use this method- th-cam.com/video/L0TTZ4_U6zM/w-d-xo.html
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Where is the tile guide from
It comes in the Fugi kit-
bit.ly/36CJQJh
Ace!
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You get all the good jobs. I'm really jealous NOT 😉. I seem to be replacing the beading every year round my bath no matter which type of silicone I buy.
I'd check under the bath if possible, and put some support under it. I've used blocks of wood/bricks in the past. Then I always fill the bath with water, before applying the silicone.
th-cam.com/video/DKFunUIh9rc/w-d-xo.html
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Bette upstand bath! Tile down to overlap the enameled vertical lip, no need for silicone.
How do I take off the roller doors?
In the middle of the shower enclosure (where the two doors meet), there are two plastic stops at the top and bottom. If you stand in the shower with the doors open you will see them. You need to remove the stops from the top and bottom, you should see that the profile has a bit of the aluminium rounded away. You remove one door at once by pulling it past the stops that you removed, until the wheels land in the rounded off part, this then enables the wheel to pop out of the channel. It's a bit tricky as you have to do the top and bottom at the same time.
@@ultimatehandyman Thank you
I feel your pain, been there 🥲
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I'm sorry but i didn't see the part where shower tray was sealed and waterproof....
All I saw was remove old silicone and put new silicone.
But silicone after few months will be old again and shower will leak again...
It's the silicone that creates the seal.
But because the gap was so large on this tray, I installed beading over the top- th-cam.com/video/wnEENFIvdKk/w-d-xo.html
Having a massive gap between the tray and tiles is asking for bother. I pray for u. 🙏 Haha
It'll be fine, once the beading is added 👍
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Tiler should have left a way smaller gap!
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How? The seal he took off is made like that so it's not the tilers fault.
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Won’t last
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Are there any shower enclosures out there that don't leak?!😄🤬
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Horrendous job, i did similar to our tray last month although no leaks from ours the silicone had mould on it and looked unsightly.Getting the old stuff off is the biggest hassle 🤮
Yeah, it can be a right pain to remove. I think a lot depends on the make of silicone used, some seem much more difficult to remove than others.
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