Had this happen many times. Start the bike in neutral, push it as fast as you can, jump on and change gear without the clutch. If you need to stop, get it in neutral first, then repeat.
@pinnacle_moto I had it happen in the middle of Cardiff once, with a bike loaded with camping stuff, a guitar and an amp. So many traffic lights! Eventually got to the motorway and off to Bridgend where my friend had a workshop. I hope your clutch was OK in the end.
I grew up riding 1970’s Triumphs, which were kickstart only. I keep hearing people blah, blah, blah about how they lacked in everything, but watching this video tells me that I’m not now, nor was I ever missing anything. What an ugly bike this is from the rider’s perspective! Who doesn’t know that when you’re doing this, you DO NOT change into First gear, but into second, or third, so that you don’t get the damn thing lurching all over the place? Trouble with modern day drivers and riders is that they don’t know anything except what’s in the magazines and the sales brochures! “Lookshery, lookshery! When Ah were yoong, we had ter…."
Happened to me last month on the A3 in stop start traffic near the m25 junction, that was insane, because it starts to go uphill… another biker came out of nowhere, held back three lanes and helped me push it so I can start it, dude was a Godsend
I've found bumping in 3rd is usually easier and being ready with the kill switch when moving - also clutchless changes work up (easy) and down (take it easy)
Hi, Yeah I know about clutchless shifts but the speed limit for the rest of the way home was 20 anyway. Bumping into 3rd?. Not sure I had enough speed for that. I tried it in 2nd and at 5-6 mph it just stalled as soon as it caught. 1st worked first at that speed without a big jerk forward.
Some bikes 2nd is far eaiser than 1st, like many cars 2nd gear is the best to bump in, but on Ninja's and many other race/circuit style bikes, the gear ratio is such that it's designed to do 40mph in 1st gear without blowing the engine up, so you have to bump them in 1st, it's really weird riding your first sports bike and still being in 1st gear at 30mph, and 3rd gear doing 70mph knowing you've still got another few upshifts to go...
Pro tip when you replace your cable replace it with 2 tied together and zip tie the spare one out the way ready for when you need it. might never need it but you will be over the moon with your past self if you do.
I did actually think about that but there is a bit where it passes over the rad and though the firewall. It wasn't that difficult to fit to be honest. The clutch cable replacement vid will be out on Friday.
My clutch cable broke once while I was on my way to school. Pulled into the mall parking lot I was passing and called my dad. Walked the last 5 mins to school. When the day was done, my bike was sat in the school parking lot fixed. Little bit annoyed I didn’t get to fix it with him but n/m
I've had many clutch cable failures in almost 30 years of riding, on bikes and cars as well. I start the engine in first gear (helping the starter motor with my legs if I'm on a bike) and then I change gear without using the clutch as I usually do lifting the throttle for upshifts and blipping it to downshift. When I have to stop I downshift to first gear and swith off the engine. It can be difficult if your bike needs you to pull the brake to start but you have to pull it very lightly just to trigger the microswitch. The only bikes that are very difficult to ride clutchless are the kickstarter only big singles with no central stand.
My triumph thunderbird clutch cable snapped on my way to North Wales...I rode it 35 miles home doing clutchless gear changes I got home but fucked my clutch plates it was an expensive repair
Stop pratting around. You have'nt busted the clutch. Start it in neutral. Scoot it with ya feet bit road speed select 1st gear. Go up a gear is easy shut throttle off. Goin down is more clunky. Just use couple gears it'll git you home. Replace cable. Clutch will not be damaged. Mr phil the bike mechanic dood
Do you believe you can ride quite easy without a clutch and lots ppl do....if you put light pressure on the gear lever for the next gear, when you close throttle it will shift without the clutch....many people ride this way all the time..
Just maybe lack experience matey, you can easily shift up the gearbox without a clutch, I do it even though I have working clutch sometimes ! you can shift down too just more carefully .. 👍
for god sake man start the bloody bike in Neural Slap it into first and ride it home just give loads of time as you come up to junctions to get into Neutral if needed stall it also / engine cut out. its only a clutch cable . the bike will not like the going into first and it will jump forward but it can be done. i dont use a clutch to change up even with a cable
you absolutely can change gears without clutch, up and down. the only thing I have no idea how to do is if there are traffic lights. you can easily get up to highway speeds and back down without the clutch but the moment you need to stop the only option is to stall the bike, I don't know if I would do it from the kill switch or try to stop the rear wheel from spinning with the brake
If the engine is killed but still engaged because of no clutch it will continue to run a little. So I think kill switch and neutral is the only option for a clean stop.
Had this happen many times. Start the bike in neutral, push it as fast as you can, jump on and change gear without the clutch. If you need to stop, get it in neutral first, then repeat.
Yup that's what I did :) Apart from the getting it back into Neutral before stopping.
@pinnacle_moto I had it happen in the middle of Cardiff once, with a bike loaded with camping stuff, a guitar and an amp. So many traffic lights! Eventually got to the motorway and off to Bridgend where my friend had a workshop. I hope your clutch was OK in the end.
I grew up riding 1970’s Triumphs, which were kickstart only. I keep hearing people blah, blah, blah about how they lacked in everything, but watching this video tells me that I’m not now, nor was I ever missing anything. What an ugly bike this is from the rider’s perspective! Who doesn’t know that when you’re doing this, you DO NOT change into First gear, but into second, or third, so that you don’t get the damn thing lurching all over the place? Trouble with modern day drivers and riders is that they don’t know anything except what’s in the magazines and the sales brochures!
“Lookshery, lookshery! When Ah were yoong, we had ter…."
Tried that but the speed was too low for 2nd gear let alone 3rd.
Happened to me last month on the A3 in stop start traffic near the m25 junction, that was insane, because it starts to go uphill… another biker came out of nowhere, held back three lanes and helped me push it so I can start it, dude was a Godsend
Good 'ol bikers :)
my technique was to stall it in first using the kill switch and just start it in first and do clutchless shifts
Start in first from Stand still?. I did try that, maybe I just needed to get it moving a little.
yes just do like you do in a car when this happens start it in 1 and just change gears with no clutch or if you dont want to shift stasrt in 2
I've found bumping in 3rd is usually easier and being ready with the kill switch when moving - also clutchless changes work up (easy) and down (take it easy)
Hi, Yeah I know about clutchless shifts but the speed limit for the rest of the way home was 20 anyway.
Bumping into 3rd?. Not sure I had enough speed for that. I tried it in 2nd and at 5-6 mph it just stalled as soon as it caught. 1st worked first at that speed without a big jerk forward.
@@pinnacle_moto either way I feel your pain and always carry a spare universal cable just in case.
Some bikes 2nd is far eaiser than 1st, like many cars 2nd gear is the best to bump in, but on Ninja's and many other race/circuit style bikes, the gear ratio is such that it's designed to do 40mph in 1st gear without blowing the engine up, so you have to bump them in 1st, it's really weird riding your first sports bike and still being in 1st gear at 30mph, and 3rd gear doing 70mph knowing you've still got another few upshifts to go...
Thanks for the tip about sports bikes and riding around at upto 40mph in 1st gear 👍🏼
Pro tip when you replace your cable replace it with 2 tied together and zip tie the spare one out the way ready for when you need it. might never need it but you will be over the moon with your past self if you do.
I did actually think about that but there is a bit where it passes over the rad and though the firewall. It wasn't that difficult to fit to be honest. The clutch cable replacement vid will be out on Friday.
My clutch cable broke once while I was on my way to school. Pulled into the mall parking lot I was passing and called my dad. Walked the last 5 mins to school. When the day was done, my bike was sat in the school parking lot fixed. Little bit annoyed I didn’t get to fix it with him but n/m
Result :)
I've had many clutch cable failures in almost 30 years of riding, on bikes and cars as well. I start the engine in first gear (helping the starter motor with my legs if I'm on a bike) and then I change gear without using the clutch as I usually do lifting the throttle for upshifts and blipping it to downshift. When I have to stop I downshift to first gear and swith off the engine. It can be difficult if your bike needs you to pull the brake to start but you have to pull it very lightly just to trigger the microswitch. The only bikes that are very difficult to ride clutchless are the kickstarter only big singles with no central stand.
Very useful information. Good to know thanks Vito.
My triumph thunderbird clutch cable snapped on my way to North Wales...I rode it 35 miles home doing clutchless gear changes I got home but fucked my clutch plates it was an expensive repair
So I guess we are saying get it going but don't change gear unless you really need to right? Hence the reason I stayed in first.
Lucky you were close to home
I was thinking, I pushed it all the way up Chadwell heath lane uphill. I could have just turned around and did what I did in the opposite direction :)
@@pinnacle_moto 😂
Stop pratting around. You have'nt busted the clutch. Start it in neutral. Scoot it with ya feet bit road speed select 1st gear. Go up a gear is easy shut throttle off. Goin down is more clunky. Just use couple gears it'll git you home. Replace cable. Clutch will not be damaged. Mr phil the bike mechanic dood
Did you watch the video? You just repeated what I actually did :)
Do you believe you can ride quite easy without a clutch and lots ppl do....if you put light pressure on the gear lever for the next gear, when you close throttle it will shift without the clutch....many people ride this way all the time..
Yes but when you stop you stall and it's hard to get it going again unless you either get a push start or a running start.
Just maybe lack experience matey, you can easily shift up the gearbox without a clutch, I do it even though I have working clutch sometimes ! you can shift down too just more carefully .. 👍
for god sake man start the bloody bike in Neural Slap it into first and ride it home just give loads of time as you come up to junctions to get into Neutral if needed stall it also / engine cut out. its only a clutch cable . the bike will not like the going into first and it will jump forward but it can be done.
i dont use a clutch to change up even with a cable
I rode a CB750 for two years with a Mole grips as a clutch lever after the cable snapped.
For 2 years ? LMAO !!!!
My 125cc can do clutchless upshift and downshifts
every bike can
you absolutely can change gears without clutch, up and down. the only thing I have no idea how to do is if there are traffic lights. you can easily get up to highway speeds and back down without the clutch but the moment you need to stop the only option is to stall the bike, I don't know if I would do it from the kill switch or try to stop the rear wheel from spinning with the brake
If the engine is killed but still engaged because of no clutch it will continue to run a little. So I think kill switch and neutral is the only option for a clean stop.