Reading between the lines on this story I've often concluded Tony, Pat and Craig had a toxic friendship. People had good things to say about each of them when they were alone or away from each other, but together they seemed to egg each other on and their behaviour escalated into ever more sadistic and depraved tendencies
Terry stone promoted dougie Joyce after he beat up at 70 year old man that says everything about Terry... Dougie Joyce is currently in prison for that crime it really says alot
James is actually a good listener, leach talks over people every interview he does and James was keeping him in check which I thought was strange as they both claim to be good mates, james seemed annoyed at times, Carlton can't stop interrupting.. It's all about him, hes so stupid he can't even see Tony used him like everyone else, tony was clearly a manipulator, funny he was so charming and a laugh a minute with Carlton when everyone else said he was a moody bloke, fact is Terry did make Carlton a somebody, his book was lowkey.., rise of the foot soldier opened up loads of doors for him and he's talking about people milking the story when he agreed to put out another book called rise of the foot soldier which was just his previous book with an added chapter the hypocrite.... Claims its all Bernie and Terry but makes childish digs at them all through the podcast, I think Terry bashes him in a charity fight, if anyone has seen Carlton fight against Tony Denham its obvious he can't really fight and relied on weapons, reputation and backup... Leach is boring
@@TheDreamer1980 Don't have an opinion on what goes on between Terry and Carlton as I don't know the facts. I just pointed out that James was making the podcast more about him than his guest. If you watch back any of his videos (which are top notch) he does the same with many of his guests.
His nose is slowly evolving to actually move futher up his face a milimetre per year rate to avoid the smell of all the bullshit...soon be on his forehead
Is tht what happend ? Terry said he(Carlton) made the general (I guess he means r.o.t f.2) After he sold the rights. I'm not anyone's side b.t.w just saying.
It is annoying, but James is forced to speak louder due to Carlton's inability to allow him to finish his sentences, or get his questions in. I don't think he's doing (Carlton) it on purpose, I put it down to nerves, and an urge to get everything out that is on his chest. The problem is, it makes it difficult to listen to for the viewer. It makes me grind my teeth and shout at the television 😂😂
aint watched it yet but ill tell you what terry said about it , Carlton wanted terry to give the families money but Carlton wouldnt do that when he owned the rights
Got it twisted after carlton spanked his money he was on to terry to give the families money that was his only was of badmouthing terry.. this gobshite goes on like he was tuckers best mate he was a loose associate at best from what iv heard him say... to many cups and mugs over the years
Carltons fault should have took royalties - which is how studios make their money , every time its on TV a few bob goes into royalties .Never tke just a fee for a movie
@@TheSavagederek Funny how all the crap so called "hard men" actors end up in the Queen Vic in Eastenders, both Fairbass and Dyer and you could class Kemp in there aswell, I am just waiting for Vinny Jones to be the next landlord!!!!
You see this is the problem with Carlton Leach , he’s being disingenuous with what Terry actually said in this video . If you can’t see, he’s not full of shit now you never will . Colton is all over the place with his nonsense , he’s like a juvenile telling porky pies to the teacher .
If your friends with him we cant be friends... I know the feels. Im sure i said this to my ex-bessie when i was in year 3 primary school. We were all friends the next day but thats not the damn point.
At the end of the day, and I include myself in this, the only reason we have any interest in this is because of ROTFS 1.I remember it happening, It was 40 miles away and I was a 20 year old raver, smoking the duff soap bar that circulated at the time! it was all over the news papers etc and the Leah Betts death. We were all doing the same pills etc. etc. But it was long forgotten about and only ever came to light again because of how the films made them look like high flying gangsters. First film was good and the rest just funny, but thats literally it. Does anyone really care anymore on who did it, seems like the people jailed for it were the people who done it. End of story. Life is to short to carry on like these lot calling people out on socials. Let bygones be bygones and move on while you still have some life left and be happy. P.L.U
I think the reason James talks over Carlton is because Carlton is far too verbose, much of what Carlton says could have been very brief or succinct. I put it down to Carlton to perhaps being nervous? past use of drugs? or something else?
@@1983robbo that’s an interesting angle and I had not considered that as I had felt James to be pretty unbiased/objective in his interviews. But you raise a good point to consider.
TBF some man putting a stupid wig on talking in a silly accent and milking the living daylights out of your dead friend every year is a bit much 60 year old playing a 30 year old man
I don’t talk to grasses is used as virtue signalling way too much and it’s probably based on the fact that Bernard O Mahoney tried to get an E for the police when they asked that was the same as the one Leah Betts took to help medically, Carlton Leach is besmirching his own reputation and legacy with this low level reasoning, he’s just making himself sound like a daft no mark
Carnaby the film makers are always looking for new investors but I dont know anyone who has made money from their films other than Carnaby no matter how successfull - Its interesting that Carlton points out he never got any royalties from rise of the footsoldiers their most successfull film
I just want to hear from jack. I know he carnt say anything from him . But he can go trough a second party. Plus i carnt wait till steel comes out . This year i hope
Carlton’s been telling a different true story for years now. The nostalgic old school hooligan story’s were told in the 2000s, it’s time to move on. Carlton has always been about the pound note that’s why he’s on the podcast, terry stone is no different.
This man would not be relevant outside of where he coulda,shoulda but didn’t,Soccer casual 🇬🇧stamped movement,see these old lot like me live a day past tomorrow 🏴
You took a fee with no contract , you take a Royalty & a fee ( your agent which you didnt have then would have pointed that out ) Thats why the studio gets paid for every download & sale & you dont :/
He probs just saw it as gravy ontop of the book sales - lets be honest ris of foit soldier hardly a global international hit 😂 not even national so carlton did do alright out of it - stones mob probably owe money on the film still.
if it's Carlton Leach, muscle for hire? Then it's not a bad read to be fair, even tho the guy himself is an absolute bum, who's literally made a living off of the Essex boys story🤬 the book is just like Roy Shaw or Cass pennants biography highly exaggerated true crime lol
Watch the full podcast here: th-cam.com/video/ykAVT0jNaoQ/w-d-xo.html
Loving your 'no nonsense' interview style brother.
Terry stone has been tony tucker,longer than tony tucker was tony tucker
Iv been saying this for years lol 🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂
😂😂😂 with better hair!
The greatest wig in cinema history
😂😂😂😂
Lost me as soon as he tried saying Tony tucker was a gentleman. He was a thieving bully
Exactly 👍
True but he did say that Tony wouldn't speak like that but has done bad things in fairness I get what u mean about them being bully's at the same time
@@trogers7312 doing the bad things he did and being called a gentleman are mutually exclusive.
Reading between the lines on this story I've often concluded Tony, Pat and Craig had a toxic friendship. People had good things to say about each of them when they were alone or away from each other, but together they seemed to egg each other on and their behaviour escalated into ever more sadistic and depraved tendencies
Next week, Carlton discusses the novels of John Steinbeck
😂😂
Superb! 😂
😂
@@walsallmidlands1893I'd be interested to get his analysis of The Grapes of Wrath and its biblical symbolism
Of Mice and Hooligans..............East of facking Eden ya caant.
" Dont listen to him Tone, think of all the agg hes caused ya"
Classic line
😂
“Pat? You’re the only bloke I know, who takes an E, and still wants to kill people!”
😂😂😂
BAhhh bahhh bahhh 🐑
He said/she said…like kids in a playground 🙄
Terry stone promoted dougie Joyce after he beat up at 70 year old man that says everything about Terry... Dougie Joyce is currently in prison for that crime it really says alot
He's a bell end .
All this talking over each other is driving me nuts. Why can't folk just shut up & let one person finish what they're saying
I wish James would let us listen to the guest instead of him.
James is actually a good listener, leach talks over people every interview he does and James was keeping him in check which I thought was strange as they both claim to be good mates, james seemed annoyed at times, Carlton can't stop interrupting.. It's all about him, hes so stupid he can't even see Tony used him like everyone else, tony was clearly a manipulator, funny he was so charming and a laugh a minute with Carlton when everyone else said he was a moody bloke, fact is Terry did make Carlton a somebody, his book was lowkey.., rise of the foot soldier opened up loads of doors for him and he's talking about people milking the story when he agreed to put out another book called rise of the foot soldier which was just his previous book with an added chapter the hypocrite.... Claims its all Bernie and Terry but makes childish digs at them all through the podcast, I think Terry bashes him in a charity fight, if anyone has seen Carlton fight against Tony Denham its obvious he can't really fight and relied on weapons, reputation and backup... Leach is boring
@@TheDreamer1980
Don't have an opinion on what goes on between Terry and Carlton as I don't know the facts. I just pointed out that James was making the podcast more about him than his guest. If you watch back any of his videos (which are top notch) he does the same with many of his guests.
There’s all bluffers fact
I thought I was watching a MENSA meeting here.
😂😂
Only in the comments section.
No it's the Snow chat
Polar opposites 🤣
You spelt mincer wrong mate
Terry Stones Syrup deserves an Oscar 😂
Charity boxing match - Carlton vs Terry
You can be Ref James
Not if it's another repeat of that Carlton and Denham fight. Both looked dreadful
@@Alex-o1q9d Exactly my point. 😏
It's only cheese ya caaaant!!!!😂😂😂😂
I ad the cd playa in me and
West ham used to play in the gap between his nose and his mouth
😭
😅I'm now calling that bit of skin the Boleyn
His nose is slowly evolving to actually move futher up his face a milimetre per year rate to avoid the smell of all the bullshit...soon be on his forehead
Terry Stone is the Tony Tucker that Tony Tucker could have been.
Terry stone made Tony Tucker who he is today 😂
‘If I’m wrong I’ll apologise to your face but I ain’t ever gonna apologise to you’
As I was reading this comment he said it 😂😂😂
Cannot wait for:
Talc - Rise of the Foot Powder
🤣🤣🤣👍
This man is salty becaise he sold the right for a pittance quick money... he didnt realise there would be follow on films...
Yeah he got shafted, and worse by a so called mate.
@lynussss should of consulted a lawyer like anyone with half a brain cell
@@lynussss never consulted a solicitor about it like any normal business man,would... maybe 10 k tax free 🤔
@@Donatello-br4fd oh cash for sure - he aint a businessman lol hes a hooligan lmfao
Is tht what happend ?
Terry said he(Carlton) made the general (I guess he means r.o.t f.2)
After he sold the rights.
I'm not anyone's side b.t.w
just saying.
I was thinking it was all a bit petty myself until the end. Now I understand Carlton, fair play for your loyalty of defending your friend.
Tony tucker was a gentleman 😂😂😂
Stop talking over each other.
It is annoying, but James is forced to speak louder due to Carlton's inability to allow him to finish his sentences, or get his questions in. I don't think he's doing (Carlton) it on purpose, I put it down to nerves, and an urge to get everything out that is on his chest. The problem is, it makes it difficult to listen to for the viewer. It makes me grind my teeth and shout at the television 😂😂
That bit was frustrating 😂😂😂😂
Don't listen to him Tony. THINK OF ALL THE AG HE'S CAUSED YA!!!
Ha ha
I’m from south east London and I can’t understand a word he’s saying!
That's probably because you're a youngen
Sounds like he's been on the xanax
I’m even more confused after watching this.
TS played a fantastic part has jack spot in once upon a time in London
aint watched it yet but ill tell you what terry said about it , Carlton wanted terry to give the families money but Carlton wouldnt do that when he owned the rights
Where did he say this a want to hear terry side of it
Got it twisted after carlton spanked his money he was on to terry to give the families money that was his only was of badmouthing terry.. this gobshite goes on like he was tuckers best mate he was a loose associate at best from what iv heard him say... to many cups and mugs over the years
Offered 30k... nah nah mate take 10.... ok mate nice one 👍 😅 wtf bro
Tony was the perfect gentleman. Also Tony - Shot in a Range Rover
When video started I said 'money' I was right' he made an excuse to not be friends because of the other 20 grand
Carltons fault should have took royalties - which is how studios make their money , every time its on TV a few bob goes into royalties .Never tke just a fee for a movie
Terry Stone actor 😂
Stone missed his vocation in life he should of been a top stand up comedian.
He is that deluded what a 24 carat 🤡
Tony Tucker died an came back to life a about million times haha
Although I wouldn’t get on the wrong side of any of these guys,it’s if it’s come down to playground stuff,he said this,he said that etc
I like Carlton he’s straight talking
Carlton give it a rest you was a footy hooligan that was the highlight of your life your irrelevant these days
Terry stone = Legend
" he had to rely on information from the likes of me to play that part " . You must of given some terrible advice then
Don’t care what anyone says, Carlton’s book is a fu*kin’ good read
Total respect bruv is it true a Manchester lad took out the Essex boys
He was a gentleman 🤣
Ask Carlton about when he smashed up Tony's Punch bag Nigel Benn gave him Tony Hated Carlton 💯
ANY film with Craig Fairbass in you know is going to be crap, apart from "Cliff Hanger"
If Lidl made actors 😂
Cliff Hanger is such a bad movie!
@@Planet-Pantera Yes I agree, but was the best movie EVER Fairbass has been in !!!!!
@@TheSavagederek Funny how all the crap so called "hard men" actors end up in the Queen Vic in Eastenders, both Fairbass and Dyer and you could class Kemp in there aswell, I am just waiting for Vinny Jones to be the next landlord!!!!
@@kruger-3522 😆
You see this is the problem with Carlton Leach , he’s being disingenuous with what Terry actually said in this video .
If you can’t see, he’s not full of shit now you never will .
Colton is all over the place with his nonsense , he’s like a juvenile telling porky pies to the teacher .
If your friends with him we cant be friends...
I know the feels. Im sure i said this to my ex-bessie when i was in year 3 primary school.
We were all friends the next day but thats not the damn point.
Tbf really like Terry , seems like handbags, you said i said now im not you're friend.
Carlton does come across as very petty on this part just because terry is friends with Bernard
Terry lives in Carlton head rent free 😂
04:30 Carltons impression of Terry playing Tucker 😂😂😂😂😂
If your hes friend your not coming to my birthday party 😢😂😂
At the end of the day, and I include myself in this, the only reason we have any interest in this is because of ROTFS 1.I remember it happening, It was 40 miles away and I was a 20 year old raver, smoking the duff soap bar that circulated at the time! it was all over the news papers etc and the Leah Betts death. We were all doing the same pills etc. etc. But it was long forgotten about and only ever came to light again because of how the films made them look like high flying gangsters. First film was good and the rest just funny, but thats literally it. Does anyone really care anymore on who did it, seems like the people jailed for it were the people who done it. End of story. Life is to short to carry on like these lot calling people out on socials. Let bygones be bygones and move on while you still have some life left and be happy. P.L.U
His portrayal of Tony was wrong. On the other hand it was me who told TS what Tony was like. 😂 the stuttering during sentences tells you he is lying.
I think the reason James talks over Carlton is because Carlton is far too verbose, much of what Carlton says could have been very brief or succinct.
I put it down to Carlton to perhaps being nervous? past use of drugs? or something else?
I don’t think James wanted to appear to be listening to Terry being slagged off. Almost defending him.
@@1983robbo that’s an interesting angle and I had not considered that as I had felt James to be pretty unbiased/objective in his interviews.
But you raise a good point to consider.
We fell out after he said he didn’t like my poetry essays
Ya know what real gangsters don’t talk about any one or anything to anyone
TBF some man putting a stupid wig on talking in a silly accent and milking the living daylights out of your dead friend every year is a bit much 60 year old playing a 30 year old man
Its true, terry stone literally thinks hes tony tucker. Hes still stuck in character 😂😂😂
James is a muppet man ffs
Tell me one...ONE thing that's good that money doesn't ruin?
Give me a million quid and if I find one thing it doesn't ruin I'll let you know
The Rotal Mint.Without it they would ve out of Business:)
I like Terry but I feel for Carlton also they did him dirty in that deal not even £30k he made of that film considering all the films that are made
I don’t talk to grasses is used as virtue signalling way too much and it’s probably based on the fact that Bernard O Mahoney tried to get an E for the police when they asked that was the same as the one Leah Betts took to help medically, Carlton Leach is besmirching his own reputation and legacy with this low level reasoning, he’s just making himself sound like a daft no mark
Let him talk james show him a some respect
Carnaby the film makers are always looking for new investors but I dont know anyone who has made money from their films other than Carnaby no matter how successfull - Its interesting that Carlton points out he never got any royalties from rise of the footsoldiers their most successfull film
He took the money offered he’s no reason to be bitter at all
I just want to hear from jack. I know he carnt say anything from him . But he can go trough a second party. Plus i carnt wait till steel comes out . This year i hope
Should of stopped at ist one dragging it on now
Carlton is amazing on Cbeebies bedtime stories 😴
Awful films to be honest.
All these podcaster wars and the same old same old gangstasssss,like a school playground
Funny how he has fallen out with everyone either hes honest or hes the problem 🤷🏼♂️
Jesus, it's one of the worst interviews I've seen .
If Tony was his best friend and he shares a bond shouldnt proceeds of what C has earnt go to Tuckers family etc?
Very tricky to use this clip against Terry
Why is he shouting over him
Carlton, has “leached” enough of all this, put some respect on Terrys name, he made you!!!
Police academy was an awsome. But the dozen sequeals and TV series weren't Same with Robocop?
Thirty grand was a lot of money? For the common man like myself but for books and movies? Bore off...
Terry stone actor dreamer etc
James shouting over him was annoying as fuck. Just let each other speak, but james definitely was worse.
Carlton’s been telling a different true story for years now. The nostalgic old school hooligan story’s were told in the 2000s, it’s time to move on. Carlton has always been about the pound note that’s why he’s on the podcast, terry stone is no different.
This man would not be relevant outside of where he coulda,shoulda but didn’t,Soccer casual 🇬🇧stamped movement,see these old lot like me live a day past tomorrow 🏴
He's aging fast
Ye thats not the Truth i believe Terry Stone his story makes alot more sense
Looks like the honey monster
"I'm gonna defend my best mate to the bitter end, not the bad stuff though" lmao..........just what the queen said about Prince Andrew, idiot
THESE 2 TRYING TO TALK OVER EACH OTHER FFS
I thought it was gary neville
Both Bernard and Terry exposed your bullshit Carlton... thats why you dont likem. Simple as
I thought Darren Crane might have got a mention. 😂🤣
What bs did they expose
That's rich coming from the biggest BULL SHITTER ever (BOM) who's lies have been proven by TM EYE who are investigating the essex boys murders
That's rich coming from the biggest BS ever (BOM) TM EYE who are investigating the essex boys murders have already proven his lies
They're probably all bullshitting to some extent.... that, or they're that clattered from the drugs, their memories are mush 🤷♂️
You took a fee with no contract , you take a Royalty & a fee ( your agent which you didnt have then would have pointed that out ) Thats why the studio gets paid for every download & sale & you dont :/
He probs just saw it as gravy ontop of the book sales - lets be honest ris of foit soldier hardly a global international hit 😂 not even national so carlton did do alright out of it - stones mob probably owe money on the film still.
Childish logic
If your friends with him I’m not your friend
04:30 😂
Dave Courtney helped Terry out and shits was dave's thanks, W⚓️er,
Carlton is a liar
GAY
Gary Cooper was gay??
The Bonded By Blood Films are shite. Their in the top 10, worst films of all time.
Embarrassing
I bet the book is pretty shit
Tis
if it's Carlton Leach, muscle for hire? Then it's not a bad read to be fair, even tho the guy himself is an absolute bum, who's literally made a living off of the Essex boys story🤬 the book is just like Roy Shaw or Cass pennants biography highly exaggerated true crime lol
I bought it as a teenager and it was crap.
Make a good comedy
Who cares
1st
...class prick, that's what you are.😆🙈
Congratulations, you've won a free lifetimes supply of farleys rusks and big nappies 😂
@@mrmoran0077Iv'e got dibs on the rusks he can have the nappies.
For the last time in your mediocre life.
@mrmoran0077 don't forget the baby oil
Thirty grand was a lot of money? For the common man like myself but for books and movies? Bore off...