Reading between the lines on this story I've often concluded Tony, Pat and Craig had a toxic friendship. People had good things to say about each of them when they were alone or away from each other, but together they seemed to egg each other on and their behaviour escalated into ever more sadistic and depraved tendencies
Terry stone promoted dougie Joyce after he beat up at 70 year old man that says everything about Terry... Dougie Joyce is currently in prison for that crime it really says alot
James is actually a good listener, leach talks over people every interview he does and James was keeping him in check which I thought was strange as they both claim to be good mates, james seemed annoyed at times, Carlton can't stop interrupting.. It's all about him, hes so stupid he can't even see Tony used him like everyone else, tony was clearly a manipulator, funny he was so charming and a laugh a minute with Carlton when everyone else said he was a moody bloke, fact is Terry did make Carlton a somebody, his book was lowkey.., rise of the foot soldier opened up loads of doors for him and he's talking about people milking the story when he agreed to put out another book called rise of the foot soldier which was just his previous book with an added chapter the hypocrite.... Claims its all Bernie and Terry but makes childish digs at them all through the podcast, I think Terry bashes him in a charity fight, if anyone has seen Carlton fight against Tony Denham its obvious he can't really fight and relied on weapons, reputation and backup... Leach is boring
@@TheDreamer1980 Don't have an opinion on what goes on between Terry and Carlton as I don't know the facts. I just pointed out that James was making the podcast more about him than his guest. If you watch back any of his videos (which are top notch) he does the same with many of his guests.
His nose is slowly evolving to actually move futher up his face a milimetre per year rate to avoid the smell of all the bullshit...soon be on his forehead
You see this is the problem with Carlton Leach , he’s being disingenuous with what Terry actually said in this video . If you can’t see he’s not full of shit now you never will . Colton is all over the place with his nonsense , he’s like a juvenile telling porky pies to the teacher .
It is annoying, but James is forced to speak louder due to Carlton's inability to allow him to finish his sentences, or get his questions in. I don't think he's doing (Carlton) it on purpose, I put it down to nerves, and an urge to get everything out that is on his chest. The problem is, it makes it difficult to listen to for the viewer. It makes me grind my teeth and shout at the television 😂😂
@@TheSavagederek Funny how all the crap so called "hard men" actors end up in the Queen Vic in Eastenders, both Fairbass and Dyer and you could class Kemp in there aswell, I am just waiting for Vinny Jones to be the next landlord!!!!
Is tht what happend ? Terry said he(Carlton) made the general (I guess he means r.o.t f.2) After he sold the rights. I'm not anyone's side b.t.w just saying.
Also killed a guy by injecting him with a cocktail of lethal drugs and was shagging a 15 year old kid when he was nearly 40, other than though, jolly good chap.
Carltons fault should have took royalties - which is how studios make their money , every time its on TV a few bob goes into royalties .Never tke just a fee for a movie
aint watched it yet but ill tell you what terry said about it , Carlton wanted terry to give the families money but Carlton wouldnt do that when he owned the rights
Got it twisted after carlton spanked his money he was on to terry to give the families money that was his only was of badmouthing terry.. this gobshite goes on like he was tuckers best mate he was a loose associate at best from what iv heard him say... to many cups and mugs over the years
i,m a little bit embarased to be from essex and in my 50,s right now.please tel me if i,m wrong but why is this bloke banging on like a juvenile teenager when no one gives a shit.
How can he be salty. He rode off the back off dead people, glorifying his involvment. Pair of schemers and one schemer got bummed off the other schemer.
If your friends with him we cant be friends... I know the feels. Im sure i said this to my ex-bessie when i was in year 3 primary school. We were all friends the next day but thats not the damn point.
This is what has me confused, but happy Terry&Carlton may have a chance at working together. Andy Swallow has a movie coming out based on his book about the ICF, how Canning Town, Hornchurch, all the surrounding area crew of kids came to unite at football. I looked up the IMDB, and it looks like Terry may be narrating a documentary w/all of the whole TBF/Chicken Run/Mile End/ICF old faces in it doing interviews. Idk if they're independently keeping amicable when they make that production, or they're actually just starting to break bread and make some peace again. Hope the latter. Loved Rise 1 the terrace and tubeway scene, wished there was more of that!
I don’t talk to grasses is used as virtue signalling way too much and it’s probably based on the fact that Bernard O Mahoney tried to get an E for the police when they asked that was the same as the one Leah Betts took to help medically, Carlton Leach is besmirching his own reputation and legacy with this low level reasoning, he’s just making himself sound like a daft no mark
TBF some man putting a stupid wig on talking in a silly accent and milking the living daylights out of your dead friend every year is a bit much 60 year old playing a 30 year old man
He says terry didn't know tony and that tony wouldn't behave like how he was portrayed. Wasn't it cartons responsibility to explain to him how tony behaved and his mannerisms
Used to meet up with Carlton in 90,s can’t say a bad word always a gent and respectful as I was to him .. if you not silly or know how things work then you can pretty much get along with anyone on mutual respect .. all this other internet tripe is bollocks and loads of opinions and stories - personally better off less said the better .. keeps the respect !!
Unlike Carlton and others wankers like Terry THINK they know what went on in the 80s but they DONT ! I is do see Carlton at football and then on the doors up West London . Hes ALWAYS been a gent to me and other friends of mine what can I say 👍🇬🇧
Used to meet up with Carlton in 90,s can’t say a bad word always a gent and respectful as I was to him .. if you not silly or know how things work then you can pretty much get along with anyone on mutual respect .. all this other internet tripe is bollocks and loads of opinions and stories - personally better off less said the better .. keeps the respect !!
Carnaby the film makers are always looking for new investors but I dont know anyone who has made money from their films other than Carnaby no matter how successfull - Its interesting that Carlton points out he never got any royalties from rise of the footsoldiers their most successfull film
Carlton’s been telling a different true story for years now. The nostalgic old school hooligan story’s were told in the 2000s, it’s time to move on. Carlton has always been about the pound note that’s why he’s on the podcast, terry stone is no different.
We know from all the stories about them that Rolfe and Steele were heavy drug users, she was there when Rolfe took a dealer hostage overdosed him with drugs then dumped him in a field and left him to die, she's more like a criminal associate than a witness the cops have probably told her if she didn't play along and say what they told her to say ir she'd be facing a whole list of charges
How many times did we contact you James regarding our stolen children? All you done was ignore us. They are about to be exposed after 7 years. Hope you’re ok Carlton. Will let you know 👊🏽
Carl you said you gave terry advice on how to play Tony tucker and yet you are dishing him on the way he played tucker and yet in your own words in this interview you had advice him how to portray Tony tucker .ffs
I think the reason James talks over Carlton is because Carlton is far too verbose, much of what Carlton says could have been very brief or succinct. I put it down to Carlton to perhaps being nervous? past use of drugs? or something else?
@@1983robbo that’s an interesting angle and I had not considered that as I had felt James to be pretty unbiased/objective in his interviews. But you raise a good point to consider.
I just want to hear from jack. I know he carnt say anything from him . But he can go trough a second party. Plus i carnt wait till steel comes out . This year i hope
Watch the full podcast here: th-cam.com/video/ykAVT0jNaoQ/w-d-xo.html
Loving your 'no nonsense' interview style brother.
Terry stone has been tony tucker,longer than tony tucker was tony tucker
Iv been saying this for years lol 🤣🤣🤣
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😂😂😂 with better hair!
The greatest wig in cinema history
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Next week, Carlton discusses the novels of John Steinbeck
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Superb! 😂
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@@walsallmidlands1893I'd be interested to get his analysis of The Grapes of Wrath and its biblical symbolism
Of Mice and Hooligans..............East of facking Eden ya caant.
Lost me as soon as he tried saying Tony tucker was a gentleman. He was a thieving bully
Exactly 👍
@@trogers7312 doing the bad things he did and being called a gentleman are mutually exclusive.
Reading between the lines on this story I've often concluded Tony, Pat and Craig had a toxic friendship. People had good things to say about each of them when they were alone or away from each other, but together they seemed to egg each other on and their behaviour escalated into ever more sadistic and depraved tendencies
Donna Garwood (aged 15 years) was Tucker (aged 37 years) girlfriend.
Now I think.....there is a word for that?
@@steve9542000 true your comment was that hard hitting I deleted my previous comment
" Dont listen to him Tone, think of all the agg hes caused ya"
Classic line
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“Pat? You’re the only bloke I know, who takes an E, and still wants to kill people!”
😂😂😂
BAhhh bahhh bahhh 🐑
Terry stone promoted dougie Joyce after he beat up at 70 year old man that says everything about Terry... Dougie Joyce is currently in prison for that crime it really says alot
He's a bell end .
Absolutely spot on
All this talking over each other is driving me nuts. Why can't folk just shut up & let one person finish what they're saying
Backwardness.
Adhd , low intelligence , cocaine? Maybe all three
I thought I was watching a MENSA meeting here.
😂😂
Only in the comments section.
No it's the Snow chat
Polar opposites 🤣
You spelt mincer wrong mate
He said/she said…like kids in a playground 🙄
I wish James would let us listen to the guest instead of him.
James is actually a good listener, leach talks over people every interview he does and James was keeping him in check which I thought was strange as they both claim to be good mates, james seemed annoyed at times, Carlton can't stop interrupting.. It's all about him, hes so stupid he can't even see Tony used him like everyone else, tony was clearly a manipulator, funny he was so charming and a laugh a minute with Carlton when everyone else said he was a moody bloke, fact is Terry did make Carlton a somebody, his book was lowkey.., rise of the foot soldier opened up loads of doors for him and he's talking about people milking the story when he agreed to put out another book called rise of the foot soldier which was just his previous book with an added chapter the hypocrite.... Claims its all Bernie and Terry but makes childish digs at them all through the podcast, I think Terry bashes him in a charity fight, if anyone has seen Carlton fight against Tony Denham its obvious he can't really fight and relied on weapons, reputation and backup... Leach is boring
@@TheDreamer1980
Don't have an opinion on what goes on between Terry and Carlton as I don't know the facts. I just pointed out that James was making the podcast more about him than his guest. If you watch back any of his videos (which are top notch) he does the same with many of his guests.
There’s all bluffers fact
Cannot wait for:
Talc - Rise of the Foot Powder
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Rise of the foot odour part 10 Tate has athletes foot!!!
Lololol
Carlton give it a rest you was a footy hooligan that was the highlight of your life your irrelevant these days
Is this an auld Granny that wrote this lmfao
Terry Stone is the Tony Tucker that Tony Tucker could have been.
Terry Stones Syrup deserves an Oscar 😂
Terry stone made Tony Tucker who he is today 😂
Terry lives in Carlton head rent free 😂
Charity boxing match - Carlton vs Terry
You can be Ref James
Not if it's another repeat of that Carlton and Denham fight. Both looked dreadful
@@Alex-o1q9d Exactly my point. 😏
Jesus, it's one of the worst interviews I've seen .
West ham used to play in the gap between his nose and his mouth
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😅I'm now calling that bit of skin the Boleyn
His nose is slowly evolving to actually move futher up his face a milimetre per year rate to avoid the smell of all the bullshit...soon be on his forehead
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‘If I’m wrong I’ll apologise to your face but I ain’t ever gonna apologise to you’
As I was reading this comment he said it 😂😂😂
Ha! Ha! Ha! I picked up on that funkin hilarious 😆
He’s not the sharpest knife is he 🤣🤣
You see this is the problem with Carlton Leach , he’s being disingenuous with what Terry actually said in this video .
If you can’t see he’s not full of shit now you never will .
Colton is all over the place with his nonsense , he’s like a juvenile telling porky pies to the teacher .
I was thinking it was all a bit petty myself until the end. Now I understand Carlton, fair play for your loyalty of defending your friend.
I'm just shocked to find out that "Terry Stone" is infact not the real Tony Tucker...Im disappointed
Don't listen to him Tony. THINK OF ALL THE AG HE'S CAUSED YA!!!
Ha ha
Donna Garwood (aged 15 years) was Tucker (aged 37 years) girlfriend.
Now I think.....there is a word for that?
I'm getting the word... Nonce.
@@capitol7950 Clinton Baptiste would have exposed them all mate 👍
Yeah absolute legend 😂
@IrishPablo94 is that you Prince Andrew?
You old paedo you 🍬🍬🎂😉
@IrishPablo94 Good morning, Prince Andrew! 👋 🍬🍬
Ya know what real gangsters don’t talk about any one or anything to anyone
I’m even more confused after watching this.
Stop talking over each other.
It is annoying, but James is forced to speak louder due to Carlton's inability to allow him to finish his sentences, or get his questions in. I don't think he's doing (Carlton) it on purpose, I put it down to nerves, and an urge to get everything out that is on his chest. The problem is, it makes it difficult to listen to for the viewer. It makes me grind my teeth and shout at the television 😂😂
That bit was frustrating 😂😂😂😂
ANY film with Craig Fairbass in you know is going to be crap, apart from "Cliff Hanger"
If Lidl made actors 😂
Cliff Hanger is such a bad movie!
@@RickyRayFitz Yes I agree, but was the best movie EVER Fairbass has been in !!!!!
@@TheSavagederek Funny how all the crap so called "hard men" actors end up in the Queen Vic in Eastenders, both Fairbass and Dyer and you could class Kemp in there aswell, I am just waiting for Vinny Jones to be the next landlord!!!!
@@kruger-3522 😆
This man is salty becaise he sold the right for a pittance quick money... he didnt realise there would be follow on films...
Yeah he got shafted, and worse by a so called mate.
@lynussss should of consulted a lawyer like anyone with half a brain cell
@@lynussss never consulted a solicitor about it like any normal business man,would... maybe 10 k tax free 🤔
@@Donatello-br4fd oh cash for sure - he aint a businessman lol hes a hooligan lmfao
Is tht what happend ?
Terry said he(Carlton) made the general (I guess he means r.o.t f.2)
After he sold the rights.
I'm not anyone's side b.t.w
just saying.
" he had to rely on information from the likes of me to play that part " . You must of given some terrible advice then
It's only cheese ya caaaant!!!!😂😂😂😂
I ad the cd playa in me and
What is really strange is that Tony’s circle , partners etc say Tony had fallen out with CL , as he was an idiot. Shame the dead cannot talk a
Offered 30k... nah nah mate take 10.... ok mate nice one 👍 😅 wtf bro
We fell out after he said he didn’t like my poetry essays
A genuine meeting of the minds here. James as erudite as ever and Carlton sounds like a modern day Marcus Aurelius.
😅😅😅😅😅😅 I'm in bits
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I doubt he'll have a 'biggus diccus' with all the ped's he's taken over the years!
Tony was the perfect gentleman. Also Tony - Shot in a Range Rover
Also killed a guy by injecting him with a cocktail of lethal drugs and was shagging a 15 year old kid when he was nearly 40, other than though, jolly good chap.
Tony Tucker died an came back to life a about million times haha
When video started I said 'money' I was right' he made an excuse to not be friends because of the other 20 grand
Carltons fault should have took royalties - which is how studios make their money , every time its on TV a few bob goes into royalties .Never tke just a fee for a movie
aint watched it yet but ill tell you what terry said about it , Carlton wanted terry to give the families money but Carlton wouldnt do that when he owned the rights
Where did he say this a want to hear terry side of it
Got it twisted after carlton spanked his money he was on to terry to give the families money that was his only was of badmouthing terry.. this gobshite goes on like he was tuckers best mate he was a loose associate at best from what iv heard him say... to many cups and mugs over the years
i,m a little bit embarased to be from essex and in my 50,s right now.please tel me if i,m wrong but why is this bloke banging on like a juvenile teenager when no one gives a shit.
How can he be salty. He rode off the back off dead people, glorifying his involvment. Pair of schemers and one schemer got bummed off the other schemer.
"I'm gonna defend my best mate to the bitter end, not the bad stuff though" lmao..........just what the queen said about Prince Andrew, idiot
Although I wouldn’t get on the wrong side of any of these guys,it’s if it’s come down to playground stuff,he said this,he said that etc
Don’t care what anyone says, Carlton’s book is a fu*kin’ good read
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Fix o fix
Terry Stone actor 😂
Stone missed his vocation in life he should of been a top stand up comedian.
He is that deluded what a 24 carat 🤡
TS played a fantastic part has jack spot in once upon a time in London
Great movie
I like Carlton he’s straight talking
If your friends with him we cant be friends...
I know the feels. Im sure i said this to my ex-bessie when i was in year 3 primary school.
We were all friends the next day but thats not the damn point.
This is what has me confused, but happy Terry&Carlton may have a chance at working together. Andy Swallow has a movie coming out based on his book about the ICF, how Canning Town, Hornchurch, all the surrounding area crew of kids came to unite at football. I looked up the IMDB, and it looks like Terry may be narrating a documentary w/all of the whole TBF/Chicken Run/Mile End/ICF old faces in it doing interviews. Idk if they're independently keeping amicable when they make that production, or they're actually just starting to break bread and make some peace again. Hope the latter. Loved Rise 1 the terrace and tubeway scene, wished there was more of that!
Fair play to Terry stone he play the part fantastic ❤
He took the money offered he’s no reason to be bitter at all
If your hes friend your not coming to my birthday party 😢😂😂
He sold the rights and didn’t take options on any sequels, so he’s annoyed he couldn’t re write the contract
The end
THE 'BELL' END!
I don’t talk to grasses is used as virtue signalling way too much and it’s probably based on the fact that Bernard O Mahoney tried to get an E for the police when they asked that was the same as the one Leah Betts took to help medically, Carlton Leach is besmirching his own reputation and legacy with this low level reasoning, he’s just making himself sound like a daft no mark
TBF some man putting a stupid wig on talking in a silly accent and milking the living daylights out of your dead friend every year is a bit much 60 year old playing a 30 year old man
well said
Yeah but funny to watch like when Danny devito played a 12 year old in sunny and they didn’t change the actor!
He says terry didn't know tony and that tony wouldn't behave like how he was portrayed. Wasn't it cartons responsibility to explain to him how tony behaved and his mannerisms
Terry stone = Legend
He’s a ham actor crap man
His portrayal of Tony was wrong. On the other hand it was me who told TS what Tony was like. 😂 the stuttering during sentences tells you he is lying.
Remember when Terry used to enter the odd drum&bass raves . He would go on stage and get welcomed by the mc’s
Terry run One Nation...
04:30 Carltons impression of Terry playing Tucker 😂😂😂😂😂
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Terry gives me the creeps . Him playing Tucker seems a bit of an insult tbh .
Theres something abhorent and hugely dislikable about Terry Stone!
It's the fukin wig innit!
Tbf really like Terry , seems like handbags, you said i said now im not you're friend.
Carlton does come across as very petty on this part just because terry is friends with Bernard
Carlton, has “leached” enough of all this, put some respect on Terrys name, he made you!!!
Used to meet up with Carlton in 90,s can’t say a bad word always a gent and respectful as I was to him .. if you not silly or know how things work then you can pretty much get along with anyone on mutual respect .. all this other internet tripe is bollocks and loads of opinions and stories - personally better off less said the better .. keeps the respect !!
Awful films to be honest.
The Wigs 😂😂😂😂Haha 😂
Unlike Carlton and others wankers like Terry THINK they know what went on in the 80s but they DONT ! I is do see Carlton at football and then on the doors up West London . Hes ALWAYS been a gent to me and other friends of mine what can I say 👍🇬🇧
Used to meet up with Carlton in 90,s can’t say a bad word always a gent and respectful as I was to him .. if you not silly or know how things work then you can pretty much get along with anyone on mutual respect .. all this other internet tripe is bollocks and loads of opinions and stories - personally better off less said the better .. keeps the respect !!
He was a gentleman 🤣
Total respect bruv is it true a Manchester lad took out the Essex boys
No
Carnaby the film makers are always looking for new investors but I dont know anyone who has made money from their films other than Carnaby no matter how successfull - Its interesting that Carlton points out he never got any royalties from rise of the footsoldiers their most successfull film
Is Carlton friends with Tony Tuckers family still ?
Not the sharpest our Carlton
I know. When he said about Terry thinks he's reincarnation of tony tucker. Come on the guys an actor
O Mahoney is infinitely more genuine than how Carlton chats.
Carlton’s been telling a different true story for years now. The nostalgic old school hooligan story’s were told in the 2000s, it’s time to move on. Carlton has always been about the pound note that’s why he’s on the podcast, terry stone is no different.
someone i know now hangs about with leach now, and i hear from a few old friends that all they care about is only money the greedy b......
He said that I did a bit of security and was a football hooligan…. No derp no, derrrp no.
Well what was he then?
We know from all the stories about them that Rolfe and Steele were heavy drug users, she was there when Rolfe took a dealer hostage overdosed him with drugs then dumped him in a field and left him to die, she's more like a criminal associate than a witness the cops have probably told her if she didn't play along and say what they told her to say ir she'd be facing a whole list of charges
All these podcaster wars and the same old same old gangstasssss,like a school playground
Tell me one...ONE thing that's good that money doesn't ruin?
Give me a million quid and if I find one thing it doesn't ruin I'll let you know
The Rotal Mint.Without it they would ve out of Business:)
Should of stopped at ist one dragging it on now
How many times did we contact you James regarding our stolen children? All you done was ignore us. They are about to be exposed after 7 years. Hope you’re ok Carlton. Will let you know 👊🏽
Carlton is amazing on Cbeebies bedtime stories 😴
Its true, terry stone literally thinks hes tony tucker. Hes still stuck in character 😂😂😂
This interview has broke my bullshit detector..thanks james...
James is a muppet man ffs
Carl you said you gave terry advice on how to play Tony tucker and yet you are dishing him on the way he played tucker and yet in your own words in this interview you had advice him how to portray Tony tucker .ffs
Is Leach pissed on this?
I think the reason James talks over Carlton is because Carlton is far too verbose, much of what Carlton says could have been very brief or succinct.
I put it down to Carlton to perhaps being nervous? past use of drugs? or something else?
I don’t think James wanted to appear to be listening to Terry being slagged off. Almost defending him.
@@1983robbo that’s an interesting angle and I had not considered that as I had felt James to be pretty unbiased/objective in his interviews.
But you raise a good point to consider.
Past use of drugs?
@@anthonyo.6084 as for CL being verbose, it’s either down to drugs or limited communication skills?
Mmmmmmm, possibly past use of drugs?
They call this sword fighting
Top man Carlton, ✊
Looks like the honey monster
Let him talk james show him a some respect
Who’s 𝖣𝖺𝗇 Kinahan
Are we talking about terry stone the speedway rider
I like Terry but I feel for Carlton also they did him dirty in that deal not even £30k he made of that film considering all the films that are made
I just want to hear from jack. I know he carnt say anything from him . But he can go trough a second party. Plus i carnt wait till steel comes out . This year i hope
Very tricky to use this clip against Terry
I thought it was gary neville