I remember wanting to buy this at Toys R Us because I thought the cover was cool when I was really little, and the guy at the counter was like “Uh, this one is really bad, you probably shouldn’t”
Reminds me of the time my brother got me Shadow the Hedgehog for my birthday a few years back. He said the guy at the counter was like "You sure about that?" before being assured it's for a joke gift.
@@seanmalloy0528 I thought it was pretty funny, though he definitely got to hear me bitch about the game a lot as I played through that slog. He'd gotten it for me because I was already talking about the game since I was watching a Let's Play of it, and we have memories of playing a friend's copy back when it was new; even as kids we were underwhelmed. Shadow the Hedgehog wasn't the first game I'd been gifted knowing it's bad, as my mom had gotten me Superman 64 a year or so prior, though I'd actually asked for that one and knew it'd be easy to find for dirt cheap (my copy was $9).
@@markhavick7115 adding on top of this. it was never his name, that was an adaptational error for the English translation. He's only ever been called X in Japan, not Rockman X
Honestly, the sad thing about the whole "X retires" plot is that it COULD have worked. The ending to Zero 1 gave X the perfect reason to quit - he realized he was becoming numb to killing reploids after having to do it over and over again, and that could've scared the shit out of him and make him think he's becoming no different from the mavericks he's killing. It would've also tied into Zero's nightmare at the end of the game about X becoming an emotionless killing machine that only cares about exterminating mavericks. Instead he's just like "Ugh, I'm tired now, someone else do it. But don't kill anyone because killing is badong."
It's a very good idea that was not compatible with Capcom's style of storytelling and most definitely not achievable by the team that tried to make it happen.
it wasn't done because Capcom absolutely refuses to change the status quo in any ongoing series, so they can keep making sequel after sequel without taking any risks it's why Resident Evil left half its cast in the ditch it's also why Street Fighter's timeline still hasn't moved past III and Monster Hunter gets off easy bc it has a shared setting, but no "canon" to speak of
@@onthefaultline And why Megaman star force doesnt exist anymore, since that Megaman actually goes through a character arc that concludes in his final game.
The stupidest part about X7 is that Axl should've been named something starting with Y! Then you'd have X, Y, and Z letters at the bottom of the life bar!
the german translation of X7 was hilariously bad. I assume it's just as bad in other languages, but what stuck in my mind was that they translated Stage Clear into Stage Löschen - which means deleting stage.
It took me a couple of years to get over X7. Hell, it made me somewhat skeptical about picking up X8 (the new art style didn't help). In the end, X8 was a fine game, wish I played it sooner.
X7 really rocked the fan base. What killed the good will was Legends 3 not just being stopped from being released but Capcom laying the blame on the fans.
@@nicodalusong149 Legends 3 could actually be a saviour of the franchise (even though it seems like it won't be fully focused on Megaman) Maybe they got PTSD of how badly received Axl is
@Grima the Fell Dragon Honestly the actor themself did a bang-up badass job of it, but the fact that there were copies of him that spammed and interrupted their voice clips over and over again ruined the overall experience.
Its sad because 1) X8 was actually pretty good but just wasn't good enougg to overcome how bad X7 was. And 2) Capcom chose to interpret the negative reviews this game brought to the franchise as a sign that no one wants Megaman anymore at all instead of that they needed to try harder to make games for him. RIP Megamall Legends 3 :/
It was completely off my radar, but honestly I was just busy with school. I don't hate it, and the storytelling isn't any worse than classic capcom, I just wish it didn't intentionally design desperation attacks to be skipped. And did the armor system better.
I had seen this guy around in box art for years and always assumed he had a deep voice. When I heard he sounded like Izzy from Digimon I was taken aback
My favorite story about my mom was thanks to this game. My mom is pretty conservative, so she basically never swears. So imagine my shock during the Splash Warfly battle, as he jumps in and out of the water to reposition. My mom watched me play and was like, "man, this guy's chickenshit" The controller fell from my hands as my brother and I turn, wide eyed in shock "...? MOM!" Because of this, even despite Flame Hynard, X7 will forever be one of my most remembered games of all time.
I first saw Axel as a spirit in Smash Ultimate and thought to myself “Wow, he looks like a grizzled veteran.” Then watching this video imagine my surprise at not only hearing he’s the young newbie, but he has THAT voice too.
@@EWOODJ The funny/interesting thing is that both, Dr.Light and Dr.Wily were so ahead of their time that no one (even centuries later) has managed to _fully_ replicate X or Zero in terms of specs. So while X and Zero could be considered "outdated" in terms of age, they're _still_ superior.
I was actively following the MML3 development and was so excited to get the paid demo on 3DS! Until they never released it and then blamed the fans for not caring enough about MML3
everybody memes flame hyenard but i swear the 'best' voice acting in the game is sigma because he consistently sounds like hes just invited you to his annual maverick barbeque and is very very happy you could make it
@@Noname15514 Your statement reads at the time of posting this as: @Phat Zoarb Yes. The devroon forum was filled with mentally ill fanboys that just wanted a remake of the old flawed/dated games. My response: I am currently unable to find anything supporting what you are saying here. I have searched "devroom toxicity Mega Man Legends 3", "devroom to blame for Mega Man Legends 3 cancellation", "Mega Man toxic fans to blame for Mega Man legends 3", and other variations, along with different boolean searches. Searches were done in and out of incognito mode. Yet, I still cannot find anything remotely in line with what you are saying. If you could please provide me with a source of your claims as an actual contributing factor for cancellation, I would be more than happy to check it out. A simple article headline should suffice. I am always willing to learn more. As a matter of fact, I have found several articles stating what could be perceived as the exact opposite. That LACK of involvement in the dev room by fans was a reason. From an official Capcom of Europe representative: "it's a shame the fans didn't want to get more involved if we saw there was an audience for MML3 people might change minds" Later update: "yes that was a flippant answer, it was a shame lots of people didn't get involved in Dev room to devleop the game was my point I said it was "a shame more fans didn't want to get more involved" when discussing our Dev rooms = Blaming Capcom Thats not blaming the fans thats expressing dissapointment in something we did Apologies again. The original comment was in relation to the interaction in the Dev rooms NOT the fans who have been nothing but supportive 140 characters is not easy to explain all the detail people want" Source: Nintendolife Then there's this: "As the composer of that tweet eventually tried to explain, the remark was intended to be a lament that the Devroom didn't achieve its aims as a marketing tool, not that the fans of the game were somehow responsible for the cancellation of the game. In any case, it obviously didn't come out that way, and the backpedaling was evidently too little too late. Incidentally, the Devroom was never meant to serve as a primary gauge of "marketability" or whatever--we knew this was hardcore stuff. But it bears noting that the Pan-Western Devroom was US-led and Europe's involvement was secondary, so I would chalk that sentiment up to that one individual's misconception of the project, or else just poor wording." -Gregaman Gregaman is listed as a Capcom Community Liaison. Source: MTV news All of this can be found on multiple other news sites. But these were the ones I found. For full transparency here. I do not think the 2 Mega Man Legends games have held up game play wise. And I am a very surface level Mega Man fan. So I have only a surface level investment in the series. So trust me, this is not me defending a franchise I am passionate about.
In the spawn of the entire decade of the 2000's, we got: Megaman Zero 1 to 4 Megaman Battle Network 1 to 6 Megaman ZX 1 and 2 Megaman X7 an X8 Look, I love the Zero and Battle Network sagas, but to the outsider viewer it looks like milking the cow as much as possible
Believe it or not, there was a time when people were sick of Resident Evil games too. Capcom has a tendency of finding any successful franchise and oversaturating the market with new games until nobody cares anymore.
Not me. Gameplay may have stunk bad (we're all in agreement there) but I still look forward to seeing Over-1 and Nero L in X Dive. I really hope we get another crossover game and Over-1 gets a proper do-over.
One of my best friends in the world is a huge Mega Man fan, so if I ever mention X, a waft of silence drenchs our conversation like snowfall, it's THAT BAD.
2 and 3 aren't bad though. I view the first three like the Back to the Future trilogy: the first one is so damn good that 2 and 3 get a pass lol. Granted, X is as close to a perfect game as you can get. It's hard to compete with that.
I liked X2 and actually think X4 and 5 were pretty good, though I never owned them, but X3 was a huge disappointment for me, mostly due to the incredibly uninspired level design. I think the real problem is that the entire X franchise peaked so hard with the original Megaman X.
Just remember: Command Mission is set in the Zero series era (21XX).So yeah that game's storyline and setting screws up Zero's solo adventures and (probably) the biometals'.
@@murderofcrows9942 Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm fairly certain that the Zero series never gives a specific time period for when it takes place. It only says it's set 100 years after the Elf Wars, which also aren't given a specific date. In other words, Command mission doesn't contradict the timeline, it just pushes the Inti games further into the setting's future.
I find it amusing Keiji took offense to Zero coming back again in X6. Like, I get that he planned to bring him back again, but it's not like he couldn't die again, he's practically a phoenix
Agree with the previous comment. Only some of them are freaking good while the rest are bleh. My favorite tracks gotta be Zero's opening stage and Flame Hyenard's stage
Considering that this is Megaman X we are talking about here having a good soundtrack is a basic requirement and not a stand out thing. Even the best soundtrack can't save a shitty game.
What X game have bad soundtrack? Blaze heatnix has the worst level design in all MegaMan franchise yet his theme is one of the best. Capcom never disappoints with atmosphere
@@daddyinthestreetsenpaiinth9250 Who knows what will happen in years to come? I think someday it will be made, perhaps a fan game. Fan games are pretty good nowadays.
Not just that. X7's a TERRIBLE introduction for Axl and sets a poor example for what the character becomes down the line. Arguably, X8 and Command Mission are significantly better introductions to the character than X7 was. Command Mission just has him join the party as someone who's just another Hunter like X and Zero, who just has an amnesia problem and wants to find out who he is and where he comes from. Even though there's a massive issue re Command Mission's placement in the grand scheme of the timeline, it's still a far better introduction for Axl than X7 was. When I hear people are going through the X games in numerical order, I always just say skip X7, play Command Mission and then X8.
@@wingedswordslayer I mean, even if he's just a genki type boy, he's still good. I like his character and 7 did him dirty. It takes 8 to pull him out the the hate hole, and even then he was forever tarnished. I havent seen much about Command Mission though, so I can't say much for what it does for his character :V
I kinda felt insulted when you decided to call Axl "the other guy", but i feel the game, while being a stinker, made X8 be the game that it ended up being. I enjoyed X8 alot.
@@ShadowJinjoYu Matt has covered good games in the past. Sly 4 is good, but it has some bizarre story decisions, and it essentially killed the franchise.
I've been playing games for well over 30 years now, and this is legitimately one of the worst I've ever played. It was just a miserable experience all around. That said, I think I'm the only person in the world who really loved Command Mission.
Command Mission's fairly good; it just needs a upgraded/touch-up re-release that touches up some of the issues; mainly that abhorrent encounter rate. It did have best boy Massimo too.
The most baffling change I remember finding out when I replayed the game through the Legacy Collection, was that damage values for the special weapons were decreased in the US version compared to the Japanese version. For example, when fully charged, X's buster does roughly 16 damage in the Japanese version, while in the US version it does 12. And Sniper Missle does 12 damage in the Japanese version and 9 damage in the US version. Legit, played though the game with the Japanese version when I found that out, since it made the game more bearable
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You can actually get X by defeating all 8 mavericks as well. The whole "The main character is locked" thing is so ridiculous. Also, fun fact: All your attacks deal less damage in the US version than the Japanese version! I have no idea if this was fixed in the x collection however.
"an anti war game in which you barely play as the main character of the series and instead play as a new, younger character" This somehow fits megaman X7 and metal gear solid 2
I’d argue that the Raiden-Snake switcheroo was an intentional setup for the narrative theme of deconstruction. You start off as Snake, now in brilliant new graphic, and after a fun, brisk Tanker level that introduced new concepts (like the tranq gun) and new characters. Then you’re given Raiden, who barely looks old enough to drink, and comes off as a wannabe imitator (going through the same story beats of MGS1, but with significantly more vitriol thrown at Raiden). Hell, Raiden even tries to call himself Snake. Then the game REALLY starts...
@Grima the Fell Dragon The Wii version had multiplayer for some reason. I remember being pretty good actually. On a side note, it's good to see fellow spectobes fans. All 3 of us.
I admit I was one of those impressionable kids that bought into it at full price. Never could get past the first few stages but I still went and bought the sequels anyway.
I want to Nominate the pokemon gen 6 aka pokemon X and Y as Im am nothing but disappointed at this game as it felt incomptle and is where most the problem in the morden pokemon come from.
It's too bad x7 killed the attention anything afterwards would've been, x8 was pretty dam good and I remember initially not getting it on release because of the stink x7 left but after like maybe a few years I got x8 and realized how great it was
If you take the fact that Thomas Light treats his creations like they are his children rather than things. This would make Mega man X Mega man's younger brother in the same way Proto man is Mega man's older brother due to when they were completed. sorry about the crumby grammer
Flame Hyenard is one of those video gaming moments you encounter that you just can't forget. Forever locked in the depth of your memories never truly forgotten.
X6 may have been a bland, boring mess that was way too difficult for it's own good (You couldn't even get into the first Sigma stage without a full set of new armor) but X7 more or less assaulted anyone who played it, be it visually with the awful camera and the 'lock on' doing whatever it wants, or audibly with all the bosses shouting nonsense at you the whole fight. Flame Hyenard is the worst but the other bosses aren't much better. Still kinda surprised we got any other Mega Man games after X7 burned to the ground.
Conceptually, X6’s story is really good; make the new main villain close to the main characters and reveal more about their past. It’s the execution in-game that brings it down, what with its poor translation and some other dumb story beats like bringing Sigma back at the very end. I’d argue X7 has the same exact problem; Axl is a really cool character, and making the villain of Red really close to him was also a novel concept. Plus, the Zero series proves that having an X that doesn’t fight and is tired of combat can actually make sense and work well with his character. In that series, he’s sort of a mentor figure and guardian angel for Zero and the other Resistance fighters; if he employed a similar role in X7, especially with Axl as a new recruit on the team, I think it could’ve worked really well. But of course, I think we all know how THAT turned out.
I disagree. X7 is more boring and the whole motif of X going pacifist is... just bad, but the plot overall is good, and the game is competently made. X6 on the other hand is rushed, has a lot of glitches, bullshit level design, unfair difficulty and bad plot. Although I like some choices in X6 the level design is killing it for me.
You didn't really see a major dip in quality with the classic series as you did in X, unless you count Mega Man & Bass, which if you do, then yeah. Still somewhat fun to play if you play as Bass, but extremely questionable level design, since most levels were obviously balanced around Bass' control scheme, and not Mega Man's. And also no e-tanks, especially with how excruciatingly long the King and Wily levels were.
x dive still need a time to to polish and make some people accept it but it's a good fanservice game with good dev care at least they still know some fan and community joke like sigma is the wall from terminal montage animation or bit christmas meme from x3 manga
@@GenyaArikado I know how you feel. But recently, it turned out that X DiVE is making a lot of money. Which means if the dev invested that money in Megaman franchise we will get a higher quality game.
@@amso7169 I put it above X6 and X7 easily, though I admit it is likely buoyed by the fact that it was the very first X title I ever played and so I have an attachment to it. Personally, I find it has strong maverick designs, music and an interesting story pertaining to Zero and how Dr. Wily may still be alive in some form. It intrigued and entertained me enough to get me invested in the series, and for me, that counts for something.
It's funny you say you stopped payin attention after X4 when X5 was in my opinion the most important entry before the drop off, as well as the best until X8.
x5 technically had magma dragoon as a fight. x5 was almost the best, if they didn't have the dialogue interrupting everything all the time. The part system was a real hidden gem imo. The multiple armors added quite a bit.
@@MattMcMuscles he has potential X8 ALMOST made his copy transformation ability interesting but was gravely underutilized save for some Rare Metal locations Actually now that I think about X8 saved him from being useless and forgettable
You have no idea how long I've waited for this. How anyone could have looked at this game and said, "yes, this is good. This should be shipped. This is something that people will buy" is beyond me
Never played X7. So wow, Axl sounds like what i imagine Son Goku would sould like if Sean Schemmel decided to mimic the proformance of Masako Nozawa. All character voices and performances are better in X8. But from the sounds of it, everything was better in X8. Also, one of the collest things in the Megaman series to me is how the Xseries sets up the Zseries which sets up the Legendseries. As u said, the Zseries was originally designed w/the intention that X5 was the last game w/Zero in it (as far as inti Creates and Inafune were concerned). But then X6 happens and it kinda messes things up abit. I think Axl and Lumina (from X8) was supposed to kinda fix some of the continuity errors brought about by X6.
@@alph4073 In the Megaman Z artbook, the devs, inti Create, mention how building to the Legends series started in Z4. ZX probably continued it further in that direction.
@@Melkac I like RPGs so yes. It had a very interesting cast of characters, like Marino, Cinnamon, and Massimo. Especially Massimo, my favorite. Axl was a blue mage who could go invisible/invincible and use boss attacks.
@Rafa Mauricio If it's any consolation, I couldn't beat it for 6 years 'cause I didn't learn how to grind and the fire boss kept kicking my ass. Some people have "lead me into everlasting darkness" as their dreaded pre-boss cutscene, I have "Now, Duboar!" as mine.
Hey, got a wild card of a game for ya: Another Century's Episode R. It was a Japanese only crossover mecha game developed by From Software, the Dark Souls creators themselves. It was so bad, they had to release an entry on the PSP just to course correct and the franchise has been dormant for almost a decade.
I've only made it to Mega Man X5 (back when it released.) I noticed the level design and overall effort took a dip so I've been scared to play further. Also, thanks for the footage credit! I've been enjoying your videos so that was really neat to see. Feel free to contact me if you need any translation help or have questions about commercials, etc.
I remember wanting to buy this at Toys R Us because I thought the cover was cool when I was really little, and the guy at the counter was like “Uh, this one is really bad, you probably shouldn’t”
Reminds me of the time my brother got me Shadow the Hedgehog for my birthday a few years back. He said the guy at the counter was like "You sure about that?" before being assured it's for a joke gift.
lol
@@seanmalloy0528 I thought it was pretty funny, though he definitely got to hear me bitch about the game a lot as I played through that slog. He'd gotten it for me because I was already talking about the game since I was watching a Let's Play of it, and we have memories of playing a friend's copy back when it was new; even as kids we were underwhelmed. Shadow the Hedgehog wasn't the first game I'd been gifted knowing it's bad, as my mom had gotten me Superman 64 a year or so prior, though I'd actually asked for that one and knew it'd be easy to find for dirt cheap (my copy was $9).
That guy deserved a promotion.
@Jo Jo I like money, so feel free to give me some.
(I swear I mostly play good games. Superman 64 is the only game I looked for knowing it sucks.)
ah yes the megaman game where you need to unlock megaman.
Ah, the Yakuza 4 of Megaman games.
Okay, not really, but you get what I mean.
It’s like mike tysons punch out, you gotta EARN that chance to even be in the same room as X, he famous ya know
@@vinnythewebsurfer
Let's not give them ideas now.
Much like the Devil May Cry games where you don't get to play as Dante until halfway in (but both those games are actually good)
@@markhavick7115 adding on top of this. it was never his name, that was an adaptational error for the English translation. He's only ever been called X in Japan, not Rockman X
Fun Fact: Flame Hyenard and X actually share the same VA in this game.
@Jo Jo nobody cares that you don't care.
@Jo Jo 🤡🤡🤡
Now That's what I'd call voice actor range
Don't feed the troll.
@Jo Jo Ok, nerd.
Honestly, the sad thing about the whole "X retires" plot is that it COULD have worked. The ending to Zero 1 gave X the perfect reason to quit - he realized he was becoming numb to killing reploids after having to do it over and over again, and that could've scared the shit out of him and make him think he's becoming no different from the mavericks he's killing. It would've also tied into Zero's nightmare at the end of the game about X becoming an emotionless killing machine that only cares about exterminating mavericks. Instead he's just like "Ugh, I'm tired now, someone else do it. But don't kill anyone because killing is badong."
It's a very good idea that was not compatible with Capcom's style of storytelling and most definitely not achievable by the team that tried to make it happen.
it wasn't done because Capcom absolutely refuses to change the status quo in any ongoing series, so they can keep making sequel after sequel without taking any risks
it's why Resident Evil left half its cast in the ditch
it's also why Street Fighter's timeline still hasn't moved past III
and Monster Hunter gets off easy bc it has a shared setting, but no "canon" to speak of
@@onthefaultline And why Megaman star force doesnt exist anymore, since that Megaman actually goes through a character arc that concludes in his final game.
Another Enter the Fist fan.
Nice Kiung Pow reference
“The gun is good” seems like a depressing extended metaphor for Capcom’s continued screw-ups and killings-off of numerous franchises over the years.
Capcom: Why bother developing a franchise when you can just... make a new one?
Everyone else: ...
if im not mistaken, that was scene from a movie called Zardoz and that movie is total brainstorm of shitfucks
I miss Viewtiful Joe...
The stupidest part about X7 is that Axl should've been named something starting with Y! Then you'd have X, Y, and Z letters at the bottom of the life bar!
IKR! Wasted Opportunity!
i know, yxl!
Actually that would have been freaking amazing
and a different colored gem than zero
@Lepus Arcticus A is the first letter of the alphabet
the german translation of X7 was hilariously bad. I assume it's just as bad in other languages, but what stuck in my mind was that they translated Stage Clear into Stage Löschen - which means deleting stage.
I mean if it was battle network that might actually work..
God, that's like that Italian Shantae localization that translated Resume (in the pause menu) to Curriculum Vitae.
@@Masterlink01 which means....?
@@tylercoon1791 Résumé, aka the document with your qualifications that you give to companies when applying for a job.
@@Masterlink01 oh, yeah, that is weird
I really liked X8. Even bothered with unlocking everything just to play as the girls. Too bad X7 already damaged the fans' good will.
X6 did that. And even X5 was starting to look like they cheapened out and the story was going off the handles
It took me a couple of years to get over X7. Hell, it made me somewhat skeptical about picking up X8 (the new art style didn't help). In the end, X8 was a fine game, wish I played it sooner.
X7 really rocked the fan base. What killed the good will was Legends 3 not just being stopped from being released but Capcom laying the blame on the fans.
I know that feel
@@nicodalusong149 Legends 3 could actually be a saviour of the franchise (even though it seems like it won't be fully focused on Megaman)
Maybe they got PTSD of how badly received Axl is
I was like, "if he doesn't mention Flame Hyenard, I will hate him forever" Everything else in the game was terrible... but this was the worst.
That is an interesting interpretation, and a very accurate conclusion. I can still hear him yelling in my brain...
BURN BURN BURN TO THE GROUND!!!
Was the best*
@Grima the Fell Dragon Honestly the actor themself did a bang-up badass job of it, but the fact that there were copies of him that spammed and interrupted their voice clips over and over again ruined the overall experience.
BURN TO THE GROUND!!!
Flame Hyenard has caused more PTSD to Megaman fans than literally anything else in the series.
This is the truest of all statements.
And people thought the Yellow Devil was bad
I couldn't agree more LMAO
Easily the most memorable character of the game. And definitely for all the wrong reasons.
Even more than the donuts from Mega Man X6?
People say this game is a trash-fire, it really burned the X series to the ground.
So THIS is part of why we haven’t seen Mega Man anywhere other than Smash?
@@thebestcentaur
Mega Man 11 exists.
Hah! Clever. Well done.
Hah! Clever. Well done.
Its sad because 1) X8 was actually pretty good but just wasn't good enougg to overcome how bad X7 was. And 2) Capcom chose to interpret the negative reviews this game brought to the franchise as a sign that no one wants Megaman anymore at all instead of that they needed to try harder to make games for him. RIP Megamall Legends 3 :/
It's a shame that X8 sold poorly, I really like that game back in the day
It was completely off my radar, but honestly I was just busy with school.
I don't hate it, and the storytelling isn't any worse than classic capcom, I just wish it didn't intentionally design desperation attacks to be skipped. And did the armor system better.
the worst sin is that they put a major cliffhanger in Axl's ending but we will never get X9
Too many gimmick stages for my tastes, too little straight up platforming. That Manowar level is just a waste of space...
It's ok but wasn't enough to make up for the dumpster fire that was X7.
X8 also had a pretty darn good soundtrack.
*hears Axels voice for the first time*
Me: "NEEEEERD"
Fun fact: his voice actress is also a popular ringside commentator in the Japanese MMA scene. She also voiced Anna Williams in Tekken.
@@LordArikado holy shit isn't she also the announcer for one of the Kinnikuman PS2 game?
Seriously Axels voice dosent even fit his appearance
I had seen this guy around in box art for years and always assumed he had a deep voice. When I heard he sounded like Izzy from Digimon I was taken aback
@@arditeider2812 ...
My favorite story about my mom was thanks to this game.
My mom is pretty conservative, so she basically never swears. So imagine my shock during the Splash Warfly battle, as he jumps in and out of the water to reposition. My mom watched me play and was like, "man, this guy's chickenshit"
The controller fell from my hands as my brother and I turn, wide eyed in shock
"...? MOM!"
Because of this, even despite Flame Hynard, X7 will forever be one of my most remembered games of all time.
LMFAOO
I love this story, thank you for sharing 😂
Mom risking an eternity in damnation to dunk on someone.
I first saw Axel as a spirit in Smash Ultimate and thought to myself “Wow, he looks like a grizzled veteran.” Then watching this video imagine my surprise at not only hearing he’s the young newbie, but he has THAT voice too.
Obligatory "BURn tO tHe gRouNd"
BURN BURN!!!...... You two!...
*WOOOOO!!!*
*TRI FORMATION*
personally, i always preferred "TWIANGLE KICK"
Pro Jared = Oh god!
Mega Man's presence in Smash Bros feels like someone protectively hugging him, keeping his grim exploited future a secret from him.
megaman 11 was the best classic megaman tho
@@Morrigan101 lots of people would argue with you on that, your opinion is not fact 😕
@@Bleeperblopper497 lots of people would be wrong
@@Bleeperblopper497 But it is a fact that people did enjoy it.
Well put...
On behalf of all Maverick Hunters: We're sorry. This was a bad look.
I heard Beck couldn’t pass his Hunter exam. Is that true?
@Simple Weirdo Even today he was the only part of the game I was unable to remove from memory...
They don't pay you Maverick Hunters enough.
@@kiliksama It is yes but we gave him a participation award. It's better than nothing right?
@Simple Weirdo All records of him we keep are purely visual or text based. We've tried to delete all audio files.
"New younger hero!"
"Sir. These are robots and X looks like he hasn't hit his teens yet."
"BUT DOES HE HAVE HAIR?!"
"Sir. You're a genius."
Correction
"BUT DOES HE HAVE A GUN?!"
That's something I don't get. These characters are literally timeless because they're robots. They can't age.
It’s just that later made robots tend to be more advanced. Making older robots feel outdated in comparison. Thus younger.
tbf X8 expanded upon that idea with the new generation reploids
@@EWOODJ
The funny/interesting thing is that both, Dr.Light and Dr.Wily were so ahead of their time that no one (even centuries later) has managed to _fully_ replicate X or Zero in terms of specs.
So while X and Zero could be considered "outdated" in terms of age, they're _still_ superior.
I love Megaman Legends 1 & 2. Hearing from my cousin that there won't be a third instalment was such a heartbreak for me.
I was actively following the MML3 development and was so excited to get the paid demo on 3DS! Until they never released it and then blamed the fans for not caring enough about MML3
everybody memes flame hyenard but i swear the 'best' voice acting in the game is sigma because he consistently sounds like hes just invited you to his annual maverick barbeque and is very very happy you could make it
He's like goofy Dr. Claw, which is... almost cool in a way?
I can imagine him welcoming the hunters while grilling some hyenard burgers.
Every time someone reminds me of Capcom canceling Legends 3, my heart dies a little more inside. Thanks, Matt!
Me too bud... me... too
Blame the fanboys, they helped killed that game.
@@Noname15514 no
@@RobertSeeJen Yes. The devroon forum was filled with mentally ill fanboys that just wanted a remake of the old flawed/dated games.
@@Noname15514 Your statement reads at the time of posting this as:
@Phat Zoarb Yes. The devroon forum was filled with mentally ill fanboys that just wanted a remake of the old flawed/dated games.
My response:
I am currently unable to find anything supporting what you are saying here. I have searched "devroom toxicity Mega Man Legends 3", "devroom to blame for Mega Man Legends 3 cancellation", "Mega Man toxic fans to blame for Mega Man legends 3", and other variations, along with different boolean searches. Searches were done in and out of incognito mode. Yet, I still cannot find anything remotely in line with what you are saying.
If you could please provide me with a source of your claims as an actual contributing factor for cancellation, I would be more than happy to check it out. A simple article headline should suffice. I am always willing to learn more.
As a matter of fact, I have found several articles stating what could be perceived as the exact opposite. That LACK of involvement in the dev room by fans was a reason.
From an official Capcom of Europe representative:
"it's a shame the fans didn't want to get more involved if we saw there was an audience for MML3 people might change minds"
Later update:
"yes that was a flippant answer, it was a shame lots of people didn't get involved in Dev room to devleop the game was my point
I said it was "a shame more fans didn't want to get more involved" when discussing our Dev rooms = Blaming Capcom
Thats not blaming the fans thats expressing dissapointment in something we did
Apologies again. The original comment was in relation to the interaction in the Dev rooms NOT the fans who have been nothing but supportive
140 characters is not easy to explain all the detail people want"
Source: Nintendolife
Then there's this:
"As the composer of that tweet eventually tried to explain, the remark was intended to be a lament that the Devroom didn't achieve its aims as a marketing tool, not that the fans of the game were somehow responsible for the cancellation of the game. In any case, it obviously didn't come out that way, and the backpedaling was evidently too little too late.
Incidentally, the Devroom was never meant to serve as a primary gauge of "marketability" or whatever--we knew this was hardcore stuff. But it bears noting that the Pan-Western Devroom was US-led and Europe's involvement was secondary, so I would chalk that sentiment up to that one individual's misconception of the project, or else just poor wording."
-Gregaman
Gregaman is listed as a Capcom Community Liaison.
Source: MTV news
All of this can be found on multiple other news sites. But these were the ones I found.
For full transparency here. I do not think the 2 Mega Man Legends games have held up game play wise. And I am a very surface level Mega Man fan. So I have only a surface level investment in the series. So trust me, this is not me defending a franchise I am passionate about.
Weird to think that there was a time where people were sick of Megaman games
If you actually played Megaman X4, then right after X5 X6 and X7 it's very obvious why.
And now X9 looks more and more like the Megaman equivalent to Halflife 3...
In the spawn of the entire decade of the 2000's, we got:
Megaman Zero 1 to 4
Megaman Battle Network 1 to 6
Megaman ZX 1 and 2
Megaman X7 an X8
Look, I love the Zero and Battle Network sagas, but to the outsider viewer it looks like milking the cow as much as possible
@@shotgunjustice9605 There was also Mega Man Star Force 1 to 3 as well as two remake games (Powered Up and Maverick Hunter X) too.
Believe it or not, there was a time when people were sick of Resident Evil games too. Capcom has a tendency of finding any successful franchise and oversaturating the market with new games until nobody cares anymore.
X8 was good but no X9 then I was like why X8 didn't spawn a sequel...then I finally played X7.
Mentioning X-Over literally sent me into shock. I swear, everyone is in group denial that that thing ever existed
Not me. Gameplay may have stunk bad (we're all in agreement there) but I still look forward to seeing Over-1 and Nero L in X Dive. I really hope we get another crossover game and Over-1 gets a proper do-over.
One of my best friends in the world is a huge Mega Man fan, so if I ever mention X, a waft of silence drenchs our conversation like snowfall, it's THAT BAD.
X1 and x4 are good at least
Half the series is kinda shit though, yeah
2 and 3 aren't bad though. I view the first three like the Back to the Future trilogy: the first one is so damn good that 2 and 3 get a pass lol. Granted, X is as close to a perfect game as you can get. It's hard to compete with that.
X8 is underated.
Dude Megaman X2 and X3 are great.
I liked X2 and actually think X4 and 5 were pretty good, though I never owned them, but X3 was a huge disappointment for me, mostly due to the incredibly uninspired level design. I think the real problem is that the entire X franchise peaked so hard with the original Megaman X.
Somebody: How is possible anyone has PSTD for listen the phrase: Burn to the ground.
Megaman X fans: You wouldn't get it.
To me, Command Mission and X8 saved Axl's character.
Yeah, fuck X7.
Just remember: Command Mission is set in the Zero series era (21XX).So yeah that game's storyline and setting screws up Zero's solo adventures and (probably) the biometals'.
@@murderofcrows9942 *22XX
But yeah Command Mission is meant to be a spin-off title that takes place in a separate timeline
@@murderofcrows9942 Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm fairly certain that the Zero series never gives a specific time period for when it takes place. It only says it's set 100 years after the Elf Wars, which also aren't given a specific date.
In other words, Command mission doesn't contradict the timeline, it just pushes the Inti games further into the setting's future.
Shout out to Japan for not being misleading with their box art.
Right??
I WANTED TO BURN THIS GAME TO THE GROUND.
BURN! BURN! BURN TO THE GROUND!
X6 & 7 were mediocre and a tragedy respectively but 8 brought back the charm and made me wish they would resolve that story.
X6 has so much content yet is such a bad, rushed and weak game
Wow just about pissed myself at the flame hyenard bit...
Edit: I remembered a time during his boss stage, my father asked me to mute the TV lmao
He did you both a favor
I'm offended that this game has a 7.2 in user reviews, this one HURTS to play
I find it amusing Keiji took offense to Zero coming back again in X6. Like, I get that he planned to bring him back again, but it's not like he couldn't die again, he's practically a phoenix
The amount of Legends 3 footage in this video has implications.
Also, Blizzard Buffalo's theme still slaps hot damn.
Can we get a ‘What Happun’ for MML3?
@@narutardkyuubi Wish granted!
@@arbiter1er huzzah! *monkey paw finger curls*
…probably nothing to worry about there
The one thing that you can’t say is bad in X7 is the soundtrack.
Well half of it anyway. The other half I feel is too generic
Agree with the previous comment.
Only some of them are freaking good while the rest are bleh. My favorite tracks gotta be Zero's opening stage and Flame Hyenard's stage
Considering that this is Megaman X we are talking about here having a good soundtrack is a basic requirement and not a stand out thing. Even the best soundtrack can't save a shitty game.
What X game have bad soundtrack?
Blaze heatnix has the worst level design in all MegaMan franchise yet his theme is one of the best. Capcom never disappoints with atmosphere
Sigma's 1st theme and the boss theme at least.
I keep forgetting X-Over even existed. That thing died so fast, never to be seen again, it's it made a new world record.
It had some decent original character designs too, sadly
Wha Happun with Mega Man X7?
Burn! burn to the Ground!
Nearly 21 years later, and Volnutt's still stuck on that damn moon!
He will get off someday!
@@cocomunga Yeah... Someday...
@@daddyinthestreetsenpaiinth9250 Who knows what will happen in years to come? I think someday it will be made, perhaps a fan game. Fan games are pretty good nowadays.
@@cocomunga Probably not in our lifetime.
@@cocomunga A fan game to continue the story was in the works at one point and Capcom shut it down.
I just fucking DIED at the Flame Hyenard part. literally cannot escape that when discussing this game
Poor Axl. Another character punished by the "Good Character introduced in a Bad Game" curse.
I'll stand by that
Well, Nero and Raiden had luck.
We can add silver too, right?
@@ridgenyan-botxv367 honestly, Silver was the other character on my mind
Not just that. X7's a TERRIBLE introduction for Axl and sets a poor example for what the character becomes down the line. Arguably, X8 and Command Mission are significantly better introductions to the character than X7 was. Command Mission just has him join the party as someone who's just another Hunter like X and Zero, who just has an amnesia problem and wants to find out who he is and where he comes from. Even though there's a massive issue re Command Mission's placement in the grand scheme of the timeline, it's still a far better introduction for Axl than X7 was.
When I hear people are going through the X games in numerical order, I always just say skip X7, play Command Mission and then X8.
@@wingedswordslayer I mean, even if he's just a genki type boy, he's still good. I like his character and 7 did him dirty. It takes 8 to pull him out the the hate hole, and even then he was forever tarnished. I havent seen much about Command Mission though, so I can't say much for what it does for his character :V
I kinda felt insulted when you decided to call Axl "the other guy", but i feel the game, while being a stinker, made X8 be the game that it ended up being. I enjoyed X8 alot.
Jak and daxter the lost frontier- what happened
Followed by Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time - What Happened?
@@t.v.rockwell4504 HEY
Thieves in time was a great game
@@ShadowJinjoYu Sly 4 is good, but it's not as good as the PS2 Sly games. Oh and the cliffhanger ending with Sly stuck in Ancient Egypt.
@@ShadowJinjoYu Matt has covered good games in the past. Sly 4 is good, but it has some bizarre story decisions, and it essentially killed the franchise.
Always loved the intro to this series. Inafune juggling all them franchises is such a perfect metaphor.
I'm starting to worry that talking about Capcom games is slowly driving Matt insane
I've been playing games for well over 30 years now, and this is legitimately one of the worst I've ever played. It was just a miserable experience all around. That said, I think I'm the only person in the world who really loved Command Mission.
You and everyone on the X Dive dev team.
@@mateusrp1994 honestly surprised Matt didn't mention x dive when he took the time to diss x-over
Command Mission's fairly good; it just needs a upgraded/touch-up re-release that touches up some of the issues; mainly that abhorrent encounter rate. It did have best boy Massimo too.
I liked Command Mission. Could use some more polish but that was a fun game aside from the encounter rate.
Command Mission is awesome. I played the hell out of that game.
Inafune: I'm going to have Zero steal all the best scenes.
Kitabayashi: Let's have our guy Axl outright replace X.
I love how Megaman X got more and more shafted to the side in his on series
The most baffling change I remember finding out when I replayed the game through the Legacy Collection, was that damage values for the special weapons were decreased in the US version compared to the Japanese version. For example, when fully charged, X's buster does roughly 16 damage in the Japanese version, while in the US version it does 12. And Sniper Missle does 12 damage in the Japanese version and 9 damage in the US version.
Legit, played though the game with the Japanese version when I found that out, since it made the game more bearable
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This couldn't be more on time for me. I literally went back and beat this game again yesterday.
Poor Matt sadly for you Capcom is inevatible.
I'm still waiting for X's comback
The big new mega man project Capcom is hinting at is probably X9.
You can actually get X by defeating all 8 mavericks as well. The whole "The main character is locked" thing is so ridiculous.
Also, fun fact: All your attacks deal less damage in the US version than the Japanese version! I have no idea if this was fixed in the x collection however.
X7 being my first megaman game, going backwards made me more impressed.
Haha why play that first?
@@cocomunga idk because is the only megaman game he had?
"an anti war game in which you barely play as the main character of the series and instead play as a new, younger character"
This somehow fits megaman X7 and metal gear solid 2
I’d argue that the Raiden-Snake switcheroo was an intentional setup for the narrative theme of deconstruction. You start off as Snake, now in brilliant new graphic, and after a fun, brisk Tanker level that introduced new concepts (like the tranq gun) and new characters.
Then you’re given Raiden, who barely looks old enough to drink, and comes off as a wannabe imitator (going through the same story beats of MGS1, but with significantly more vitriol thrown at Raiden). Hell, Raiden even tries to call himself Snake.
Then the game REALLY starts...
At least MGS2 found a way to make it work.
Really at the point where I am looking forward to each episode! Can you look at "Everquest Next" next?
I nominate Disney's Spectropes for What Happened
@Grima the Fell Dragon there 2 ds games and one wii game
@Grima the Fell Dragon The Wii version had multiplayer for some reason. I remember being pretty good actually. On a side note, it's good to see fellow spectobes fans. All 3 of us.
I admit I was one of those impressionable kids that bought into it at full price. Never could get past the first few stages but I still went and bought the sequels anyway.
I want to Nominate the pokemon gen 6 aka pokemon X and Y as Im am nothing but disappointed at this game as it felt incomptle and is where most the problem in the morden pokemon come from.
It's too bad x7 killed the attention anything afterwards would've been, x8 was pretty dam good and I remember initially not getting it on release because of the stink x7 left but after like maybe a few years I got x8 and realized how great it was
Axl deserved more. They did my boy dirty on his first appareance.
4:44 Capcom: "Hey! I saved your life!"
Zero: "You didn't saved my life! You've ruined my death!"
If you take the fact that Thomas Light treats his creations like they are his children rather than things. This would make Mega man X Mega man's younger brother in the same way Proto man is Mega man's older brother due to when they were completed. sorry about the crumby grammer
I'll give them credit, it's a real bold move making your new main character Jaiden Yuki
I mean, it worked at least once before
They shoulda' given Axl some Cheetos...
The Krusty intro easy the best one yet, I'm passing out from laughter.
Flame Hyenard is one of those video gaming moments you encounter that you just can't forget. Forever locked in the depth of your memories never truly forgotten.
God, could we get a “Wha’ Happun’” about Mega Man Legends? It breaks my heart every time I think about that franchise
wow, X6 coming out while MMZ was starting with Zero's story really depresses me.
X6 may have been a bland, boring mess that was way too difficult for it's own good (You couldn't even get into the first Sigma stage without a full set of new armor) but X7 more or less assaulted anyone who played it, be it visually with the awful camera and the 'lock on' doing whatever it wants, or audibly with all the bosses shouting nonsense at you the whole fight. Flame Hyenard is the worst but the other bosses aren't much better.
Still kinda surprised we got any other Mega Man games after X7 burned to the ground.
Conceptually, X6’s story is really good; make the new main villain close to the main characters and reveal more about their past. It’s the execution in-game that brings it down, what with its poor translation and some other dumb story beats like bringing Sigma back at the very end. I’d argue X7 has the same exact problem; Axl is a really cool character, and making the villain of Red really close to him was also a novel concept. Plus, the Zero series proves that having an X that doesn’t fight and is tired of combat can actually make sense and work well with his character. In that series, he’s sort of a mentor figure and guardian angel for Zero and the other Resistance fighters; if he employed a similar role in X7, especially with Axl as a new recruit on the team, I think it could’ve worked really well. But of course, I think we all know how THAT turned out.
I disagree. X7 is more boring and the whole motif of X going pacifist is... just bad, but the plot overall is good, and the game is competently made. X6 on the other hand is rushed, has a lot of glitches, bullshit level design, unfair difficulty and bad plot. Although I like some choices in X6 the level design is killing it for me.
Damn, Megaman Legend 3. It still hurts, man
I’m gonna have to leave a small complaint: Mega Man 7 is actually pretty damn good, honestly. X7 is garbage, but the Classic series 7 is fun
Pretty much all of the classic NES Mega Man games are fun!
Fun Fact: MM7 only had a development time of three months. Even with that, I agree that MM7 is a good game.
@@JJ18355
7 was on SNES.
@@amso7169 That's why I said classic NES. But yeah, 7 was also fun.
You didn't really see a major dip in quality with the classic series as you did in X, unless you count Mega Man & Bass, which if you do, then yeah. Still somewhat fun to play if you play as Bass, but extremely questionable level design, since most levels were obviously balanced around Bass' control scheme, and not Mega Man's. And also no e-tanks, especially with how excruciatingly long the King and Wily levels were.
I still rather play X6 than this snoozefest
You forgor about Rockman X Dive which really made the series breath fresh air for a while, even if is a mobile game it made a great experience
but it's just a rehash of older sprites and stuff...boooooring...
x dive still need a time to to polish and make some people accept it
but it's a good fanservice game with good dev care
at least they still know some fan and community joke
like sigma is the wall from terminal montage animation or bit christmas meme from x3 manga
@@Kongjedk What we want is Megaman 12 or X9! I would pay 1000$ for that if it became like Megaman 11 or X4!
@@GenyaArikado I know how you feel. But recently, it turned out that X DiVE is making a lot of money. Which means if the dev invested that money in Megaman franchise we will get a higher quality game.
MegaMan 8 and X5 are good and pretty good games respectively, and should be recognized as such.
8 is good.
X5 is not.
X5 is the second worst game in the x series.
@@amso7169 I put it above X6 and X7 easily, though I admit it is likely buoyed by the fact that it was the very first X title I ever played and so I have an attachment to it. Personally, I find it has strong maverick designs, music and an interesting story pertaining to Zero and how Dr. Wily may still be alive in some form. It intrigued and entertained me enough to get me invested in the series, and for me, that counts for something.
X5 *was* supposed to be the series finale. But you probably know already how that went.
I'm pretty sure I didn't forget about Flame Hyenard, especially now that you've reminded me about how he *interrupts his own lines*
It's funny you say you stopped payin attention after X4 when X5 was in my opinion the most important entry before the drop off, as well as the best until X8.
Why is x5 above x4 doe
1:55 “I hate this game”
-Jamie Clement aka ClementJ64
x5 technically had magma dragoon as a fight.
x5 was almost the best, if they didn't have the dialogue interrupting everything all the time. The part system was a real hidden gem imo. The multiple armors added quite a bit.
Yes. I do remember flame hyenard . you could say he's BURNED into my memories.
X5 and X6 had fire ost's tho 🔥 you used a couple songs from them haha
CAN YOU HEAR ME, MATT MCMUSCLES!?
To quote Flame Hyenard , this game really "BURN , BURN , BURN , BURN TO THE GROUND , BURN TO THE GROUND ".
Alas poor megaman, we barely knew thee
Hahaha, oh man, I gotta get that clip of that kid saying "WHETHER HE WANTS TO OR NOT!"
X8 was really good, sad to see that it didn't do well
Weird how I use to like this game when I was little
Don’t worry, your taste probably wasn’t developed yet. I do like the soundtrack though.
Hey man
Give my boy Axl some respect...
Why lol
@@MattMcMuscles he has potential
X8 ALMOST made his copy transformation ability interesting but was gravely underutilized save for some Rare Metal locations
Actually now that I think about X8 saved him from being useless and forgettable
Did AXL die on his way to his home planet?
iirc, Command Mission came out before X8 (it even had an unlockable X8 demo), so you're not wrong for saying X8 was X's last headlining title. :)
14:55 "WHAT AM I FIGHTING FOOOOOooooOOoOOOoOR?!"
Megaman X needed a "Metroid Prime" and instead it got an "Other M"
You have no idea how long I've waited for this. How anyone could have looked at this game and said, "yes, this is good. This should be shipped. This is something that people will buy" is beyond me
Never played X7. So wow, Axl sounds like what i imagine Son Goku would sould like if Sean Schemmel decided to mimic the proformance of Masako Nozawa. All character voices and performances are better in X8. But from the sounds of it, everything was better in X8.
Also, one of the collest things in the Megaman series to me is how the Xseries sets up the Zseries which sets up the Legendseries. As u said, the Zseries was originally designed w/the intention that X5 was the last game w/Zero in it (as far as inti Creates and Inafune were concerned). But then X6 happens and it kinda messes things up abit. I think Axl and Lumina (from X8) was supposed to kinda fix some of the continuity errors brought about by X6.
It's actually the ZX series that sets up the Legend series.
@@alph4073 In the Megaman Z artbook, the devs, inti Create, mention how building to the Legends series started in Z4. ZX probably continued it further in that direction.
This was my first MegaMan X game.
...I got off on the wrong foot. At least X Command Mission was way better.
It was?
@@Melkac I like RPGs so yes. It had a very interesting cast of characters, like Marino, Cinnamon, and Massimo. Especially Massimo, my favorite. Axl was a blue mage who could go invisible/invincible and use boss attacks.
@Rafa Mauricio If it's any consolation, I couldn't beat it for 6 years 'cause I didn't learn how to grind and the fire boss kept kicking my ass. Some people have "lead me into everlasting darkness" as their dreaded pre-boss cutscene, I have "Now, Duboar!" as mine.
Man, Armoured Armadillo’s theme still reminds me of Screw Attack
BURN TO THE GROUND!!! BURN! BURN!
Hey, got a wild card of a game for ya: Another Century's Episode R. It was a Japanese only crossover mecha game developed by From Software, the Dark Souls creators themselves. It was so bad, they had to release an entry on the PSP just to course correct and the franchise has been dormant for almost a decade.
Also as soon as I heard Axl's voice I immediately thought of Scrappy Doo
"It was the only one that contained MAGMA DRAGOON!"
A man of culture after my own heart, I see~
I wonder what the problems that X6 had with development yo come out in the state it did.
I've only made it to Mega Man X5 (back when it released.) I noticed the level design and overall effort took a dip so I've been scared to play further. Also, thanks for the footage credit! I've been enjoying your videos so that was really neat to see. Feel free to contact me if you need any translation help or have questions about commercials, etc.
I think Mega Man X6 needs a What Happened? episode too.