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  • "I will pull my weight, but I will not be the golden goose."
    Season 2 Episode 8: Parenthood
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  • @DemonicRobots
    @DemonicRobots 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +564

    Lip had so many people in his corner and he just... Threw it all away. So sad.

    • @seleviathan
      @seleviathan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +82

      He had a real chance to get out and help his family but his destructive behavior and horrible upbringing got in the way too many damn times. He ruined all his opportunities and never really took accountability and that was the problem

    • @llcourt
      @llcourt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

      Everyone always says this but that’s the point of the show. We get to see every child’s potential and watch them ruin every opportunity but like validly bc they had such a horrible childhood. Everyone’s like I hate Debbie she used to be soo sweet, *thats the point* Lip and Ian had so much potential *that’s the point*

    • @Lauras653
      @Lauras653 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      He could’ve turned his life around if he just went back to school and didn’t give up but he did and that’s sad

    • @Numina_
      @Numina_ หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@llcourtI agree! Everyone hates on them without realizing just how strong they are and what they’ve had to learn about themselves. These kids were abandoned and used.

    • @StefansLcve
      @StefansLcve หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That’s on him

  • @venustothecity
    @venustothecity 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +404

    Lip's ego will always be his enemy. It's such a relatable struggle for for many young guys cause ultimately it doesnt mater how many people you have in your support group. if you cant take control of your life or humble yourself to take advantage of the Opportunities before you, you only set yourself up for failure.

    • @abox6562
      @abox6562 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah well it us guys. I'm stubborn but it helps me move forward. Only few of us have the mentors to move ahead. I've been lucky fortunately

    • @MintTrout
      @MintTrout หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      FR!! With Fiona going out of her way to even finish high school, despite the early parenthood, while Lip halfa**ing it, just proofs his entitlement and resentment towards the completion of doing the bare minimum😭😭🤦🏾‍♂️

  • @kalebr560
    @kalebr560 หลายเดือนก่อน +129

    Fiona wasn’t even ever bad at school. Lip belittled her all time like an asshole because she raised a family

    • @ccutehoney
      @ccutehoney วันที่ผ่านมา

      Fiona could have qualified for athletic scholarship too. She was an amazing runner 😢

  • @J4sse
    @J4sse 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +192

    Lip was gifted and threw that away.

    • @torakunoichi
      @torakunoichi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Was he or was he just smarter than the kids in his school?? He gets to uni and discovers he’s not that gifted

    • @dd4850
      @dd4850 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Tell me you haven’t finished the series without telling me

    • @J4sse
      @J4sse 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@dd4850 I finished the show back in 2021, you have no idea what you're talking about.

    • @indifference1015
      @indifference1015 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      ​@@torakunoichi He was still gifted he was just so use to b.s.ing his way through classes without having to study that his professors caught on to it. During season 5 and half of season 6 he was doing very well. He had a schlorship, was the RA for his dorm, and a TA for Yuens. Unfortunately his stupidity when it came to properly handling his relationship with Amanda and getting involved with professor ruined that.

    • @farzaslasher422
      @farzaslasher422 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I know that’s what pissed me off he could’ve done so much more with his life

  • @MicahiLove
    @MicahiLove 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +107

    I love how Lip got even more mad that the teacher didn't respond to his BS.
    Typical teenager who thinks they're grown but doesn't know sugar honey ice tea.

    • @Empr.Palpatine
      @Empr.Palpatine 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      HAH! 'S.ugar H.oney I.ce T.ea'.
      Nice😂

  • @VincentTornude
    @VincentTornude หลายเดือนก่อน +131

    Lip hated the idea of having to do what Fiona did for the family so much that he'd avoid doing well or would self sabotage when he was.

  • @tyresmith9833
    @tyresmith9833 หลายเดือนก่อน +69

    Lip was his own worst enemy. Threw his whole future away trying to be big bad.

  • @kurtisvr7826
    @kurtisvr7826 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +90

    Carl “I’m down for that”😂

  • @TonganHalfBreed
    @TonganHalfBreed หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    I get tired of people excusing Fiona’s massive screw ups all the damn time. But This scene plays in the back of my head when later when Fiona is spiraling he kicks her out and doesn’t do anything but condemn and scream at her. Because she always showed support and love but with a firm hand when they needed help to be put back on track. But when she needed help just immediate alienation and condemnation without a seconds hesitation. I will admit there are times when someone needs to be cut off and hit rock bottom on their own to rise back up. But that’s a last resort not a first option.

  • @Stevefrenchpig47
    @Stevefrenchpig47 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    Lip had the chance to take everything on a silver plater or paper plate, sadly he chose a paper plate.

  • @grapelund
    @grapelund หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    Sad to watch, but I like how they kept it real with his character. There was no nice ending for him like we was all waiting for. He’s like the millions of regular people walking around with wasted potential.

  • @moreplugs
    @moreplugs หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    The old self sabotage cause you scared of what’s on the other side

  • @turtleboy991
    @turtleboy991 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    "Uh, I believe the answer to that question, um like the answer to most questions, is f*ck you".
    I freakin' LOVE that line!

  • @luigicavallo270
    @luigicavallo270 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    Karen was really doing a number on him!

  • @christianfazio757
    @christianfazio757 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    season 2 lip was such a little shit 😭 quitting school, leaving home, yelling at Fiona about the squirrel fund, like ugh

    • @ChrisHampton-hz4dv
      @ChrisHampton-hz4dv 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Nah everything else (even tho I relate to lip a lot I’m not a genius but the whole self sabotage shit it’s still annoying I know) is annoying school leaving but the squirrel fund shit is not a shitty thing that’s the family’s whole savings why tf did they let her back in😭😭

    • @Abstractor21
      @Abstractor21 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Best lip was season 4-5 lip. After that he was basically pure puke 🤢🤮🤢🤮 . And lets not even talk about S9-S11

  • @jamaljames9331
    @jamaljames9331 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    It's very frustrating and hard to watch all of the Gallaghers self-sabotage themselves in different ways!

  • @thomaslao9832
    @thomaslao9832 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    lip being a good will hunting wannabe.

    • @grapelund
      @grapelund หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      He took it all the way too!! No redeeming arc for him😂😂😂

  • @SingerGirl1985
    @SingerGirl1985 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I love the guy that came in the bathroom and pushed Lip for his future ❤

  • @Heeem13
    @Heeem13 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +62

    The writers ruined lip big time 😢

    • @vmaninc.761
      @vmaninc.761 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

      It wasn't just lip, The writers ruined practically all of the characters from frank on down; Kevin and Veronica were in my opinion the only ones spared from their wrath. 😢😬🙄😉💯🔥👍🏻

    • @bobross2251
      @bobross2251 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@vmaninc.761Kevin was sleeping with college girls 💀

    • @GoldRosebush
      @GoldRosebush 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@vmaninc.761and they were also pretty bad near the end

    • @ohh_heavy
      @ohh_heavy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It's realistic. People in poverty always self sabotage

    • @lionsjourney29
      @lionsjourney29 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      ​@ohh_heavy more than just poverty, these are extremely traumatized kids surviving in a rather unkind world. Generational trauma. The trauma of day to day life. Ian's major issues with mental health disorder and being gay, and frankly being preyed upon as teen by Kash consequently leading to maximizing daddy issues due to this family absent and when present awful dad/parents. Fiona had to become caretaker of her entire family including in her pre-teens. And POVERTY . A System designed to rob the dignity of poor ppl.
      In the end many bad calls and personal decisions are due to just their own will and judgment. But in others the systemic dysfunction of their life manifests in extremely bad and self destructive judgment calls

  • @josephminickene4707
    @josephminickene4707 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I get lip sometimes people don’t want to be the family’s golden goose and be the one that’s wealthy like yea he could’ve done that but I feel he felt pressured to be great and that scared him

  • @joyajohnson2216
    @joyajohnson2216 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Lip is so FRUSTRATING. MY GOD. If Lip wasn’t played by Jeremy Allen White I would hate him. 😂

  • @alfasiger4178
    @alfasiger4178 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I never liked Lip in this series. For someone "smart" he can be so dumb and completely unreasonable

    • @TonganHalfBreed
      @TonganHalfBreed หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It’s a classic case of book and academics smart but completely lacking any emotional intelligence.

  • @kerenacosta6946
    @kerenacosta6946 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    To be honest no one other than Kevin kidding around actually expected Lip to the golden goose providing for his family. Lip doesnt have that much pressure to succeed academically in comparison to the pressure of getting enough money to pay bills.
    Keep in mind that when Fiona decided to get a GED instead of a diploma Lip was all dramatic saying it didnt count even thoigh Fiona has to take care of three children still in elementary school.
    Notice how Lip brushed off Carl and Debbie saying they can take care of themselves. I bet y'all that Fiona, did not do that shit to Lip and Ian when they were the same age

  • @marcuscarlson2788
    @marcuscarlson2788 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    ngl I related to lip during this season because I was like him when I was 17, thinking that no one knows what's best for me and everybody wanted me to be successful academically just so they can use me for my talents

  • @CharliePumphrey-de6yl
    @CharliePumphrey-de6yl 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Imagine If The Guideance Councler Going Up Against Frank Or Terry?

  • @ZephyrBW
    @ZephyrBW หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice job Fiona

  • @kate___lynch
    @kate___lynch หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Why would he do that

    • @oreki22
      @oreki22 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I kind of get it tbh. While my family wasn't as struggling as the Gallagher's, I do remember having a realization that my parents/siblings were just using me/expecting me to do everything for them in the future. My Mum, in particular, would keep bringing up how one day I will "buy her a mansion" which quickly persuaded my siblings to be like that towards me as well. While it's not the exact same; I think Lip hears everyone tell him that, because of his potential, he has to be really successful for both his and their sakes. And he interprets that as people assuming/pressuring him into being someone THEY want him to be, and not necessarily being some HE wants to be.

    • @agbrenv
      @agbrenv 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@oreki22 yeah but in Lips case, it wouldn't even be hard work, the guy literally wrote essays and tests for others to get into high school or university
      he is smart enough that it would be a walk in a park for him, also it's quite a dick move since Fiona already sacrificed her opportunity for a normal/happy future for him and all the other siblings, yet he isn't willing to do a somewhat low effort sacrifice for her

    • @oreki22
      @oreki22 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@agbrenv Yeah, but it's not about the difficulty of reaching that point. It's about how it feels and the pressure. Lip can (with his intelligence) become very successful a lot easier than his other siblings. But that's not the issue he is having. It's about how everyone is adding all this extra pressure to him, saying he has to be what they want him to be for their sakes. You hear that enough times, and not only does it stress you out and lessen your motivation, but it also makes you resentful of your family. Those probably well meaning pleas of "succeed for our sake" eventually over time start sounding like people demanding you do all the work for them (no matter how difficult it actually is) as though they will live off of you. They sound less encouraging and more like people proclaiming that you succeeding is their only hope in life, not yours. When this happened to me, it freaked me out to the point of depression, wondering if my 'goals' were actually my own or if they were just what others had said I had to do. It's compounding pressures basically.

    • @agbrenv
      @agbrenv 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@oreki22 yeah but the thing is, he still does help the family, and stays with them, only instead he provides for them through scamming, stealing etc. which is way more risky and less profitable
      and it's really not about him being the only one to provide, since out of the siblings, all of them do what they are capable of, to help out, so all he is doing is making his own, and everyone elses struggle worse, because he is still providing for them, but is willingly chosing the less profitable option
      also, if he is so much against being the highest provider, nothing is actually binding him to provide for his siblings, he can get a job, move out and live his life, but he is basically undercutting everyone, for no real reason
      and for that matter, they never really kept nagging him to go to college to be able to provide for them, but mostly because he wasn't utilising his brilliant mind

  • @The_Memorial
    @The_Memorial หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hate his character