This happened in 1982 at Aqueduct as well, a horse broke down as it was crossing the wire in front, and was disqualified. Another horse did the same but it crossed first on a broken leg and was not disqualified; that horse was Emporias.
I'm just saying this I've lived next to a horse farm my whole life he races his horses and he races them in the professional races. Even the horses that take a huge gal and break a born are taken back and cared for they retire they move across the way to his game where his son lives where they live for the rest of there lives his horses never are put down unless the injuries are fatal. Yes some people put them down and yes sometimes horses break legs but the horses are loved and cared for!
COMO QUE NO? NUNCA TOCO EL SUELO ES DESCALIFICADO CUANDO TOCAN EL SUELO POR ESO MISMO AL NUNCA SOLTAR LAS RIENDAS DEL CABALLO Y CAER CUANDO LA CARRERA ESTABA TERMINADA ESO LE DA LA VICTORIA ES JUSTO GANADOR
I love racing and have been working in race horse stables doing all things from mucking,grooming,to training but i will never get used to the whip mentality in some countries.. if you watch you will see the horse is in trouble a little wjile before it fell and the leg snapped/broke.. that horse must have run its heart out to manage that.. however i think they should lose the 1st place... kind of weird to see how diffrent the racing is in some other contries compared to norway and sweeden... i feel so bad for the horse and those who loved it but unless it had damage in that leg from prior actdents i dont see how it could have been prevented.. as for wether loosing 1st place or not-thats a tecnacatily and it comes down to regulationd in that contry where the race was held... glad it did not turn out to be a bigger accident with more horses,cause it could so easely have happened.... :/
For every male or female jockey around the world, next race can be the last one. And like Hall of Fame american jockey Mike Smith said once: "If you don´t win, you´re not paid" Greetings from Venezuela.
You can clearly see in the slow motion while the horse is rolling that his front left leg is broken and likely the cause of his fall. They run these horses hard that sadly these 'blow out' injuries are common. So even if he did win the race, he lost his life doing so.
@Abdiel_Lopezboriua2015if a horses leg breaks it usually means the horse is shot/killed because it's hard for horses to live with three legs, they aren't meant to be on stable rest, and an extensive surgery for thr leg would mean the horse has to rest a long time- and would likely develop laminitis and die
The horsse should be declared as 1st since both the Jockey and the Horse fell down after haqvind touched the winning post which is evident from the video.
Only when the last tree has died, the last lake has been poisoned, the last fish has been caught, and the last animal has gone extinct will we realize that we cannot eat money. We will realize all our mistakes. Something as simple as horse racing can even turn out to be a mistake.
I'm not bullying disabled children... My own cousin has her own disabilites.. The point is that in GENERAL, humans tend to take advantage of anything. Animals is just one of them. End of conversation.
But aren't racing horses bred seperately to normal horses, as thoroughbreads? So they don't affect any statistics on the horse population? Granted, it's horrible to see horses be put through this, but your statement makes no sense here.
Kath Beck jeez. Did you over react to a simple musing about how man ( in the genetic sense) uses and abuses everything around him ( as in mankind) without respect and for profit. I agree with her. She said NOTHING about denying riding programs for the disabled. That was a real stretch .....
He never touched the ground and had contact with the Horse under and passed the finish line. He won! Jockey and horse did not separate they were in contact until passed the line and contacting the ground.
+Frank Dioguardi depends on the rules - some may demand that the horse carry its weight the entire length of the race and in that case it would not be counted as a win. Even only if a weight slipped out of the saddle bag the ruling would be the same as if the jockey go thrown off
He won fair & square. His head made it across the finish line before the #2 Horse. There was another incident just like this years ago where the jockey wound up standing on the horses side while it glided, sliding across the finish on a soggy wet track. They won despite the fall.
I love the comments about how the horses are treated like royalty. This industry is running horses whose bones aren't formed yet at full speed and want to talk about how great they treat them. These BABIES shouldn't even be at a full run yet and you all know it, so stop making excuses for your pathetic industry. Sure, you treat them wonderfully and when they don't come home from the track because you killed them, you just use their tack on the next horse. You tell yourself whatever you want so you can sleep at night; I know I wouldn't be able to.
gootubesucks bigtime yes, and once they are done racing at like 4 years old they get sent to the slaughter house, and most race horses are abused. The race horse industry is terrible
Even though he won easily the Belmont and the Preakness, Man o' War never won the Triple Crown because Sam Riddle didn't enter him in the Kentucky Derby because he felt it was too early in the season for a colt to run a race that long. Riddle put the welfare of his horse above the glory of winning the Triple Crown
an industry revolve around animals tend to go that way, these horses are breed to run, just like female chicken breed to be fried chicken, when they can't handle the overgrowth hormone, they become crippled, and can't eat properly therefore can grow into preferable weight, and the owner just make them into ground meat and sold at cheaper price than the chicken which manage into the slaughter house
Annika Block it seems you are willfully ignoring organizations that re-home and re-train retired race horses. Secondly, do show me *real* proof that most race horses are abused.
jstrahan2 ,,,lol...get your own to eat....Good luck getting one to eat that is not loaded with just half of the known drugs that are given to horses...My 9 horses have been given many of these drugs at one time or another. I would not want to be responsible for making you sick. Many other horse owners are not so considerate & the meat inspectors & kill-buyers do not care- there are NO controls like with cattle & pigs ect. Support your small family farms & farmers markets..we care what you eat-we are eating it too!
To those that said the winning horse did not die..Watch whole video not just part of it,the winner clearly has a broken leg and was put down after the race..Read the post of the official..There were a number of riders dislodged from the horses you see continuing after the race but the winner was not one of them..
Jeez- poor horse and jockey. As to who ''won'', I just hope that the horse and rider survived without bad injury. The fallen horse was leading well, so if I was the judge, I would say ''let him have the prize''- not that winning means much to a horse, the money part anyway. they like to be in the lead, though.
Well,.. wasn't meaning to offend by assuming Japan. Yes, I have heard of Macau. Figured I'd been correct on the ruling too. Not sure if this would be anything that'd vary at all from one Country to the other. We should all be united in all rulings in horse racing! thanks for letting me know!
Assuming this is in japan,... If the rules are the same there as US, the Jockey must maintain contact with the horse, as the horse crosses under the wire. Couldn't really see to tell if this jockey had held onto the reins or not. But this jock clearly had not maintaied contact with his mount. A very nasty spill on what appears to have been a very hard racing surface. What was the Officials ruling? I'm interested to know. If the racing rules are same as ours. I'd have to say, DQ.
LookED like a fantastic runner. He snapped a front leg, probably was put down immediately with an injury like that. I bet the horse had a problem before the race, and the trainer knew it. Happens all the time Injured horses get doped up with legal or illegal pain meds, raced, and they break down. Its a wonder the jockeys don't just plain refuse to ride, until punishments for this are much more severe than they are now.
The first horse race of the season,race 1,1:00 P.M.,my first time seeing a race live, and there was a sheet of ice under the water on the track.Just as the horses hit the last turn,3 horses slipped and spun out of control. Throwing the jockeys hard on the ice.In which they spun and slid. Leaving nasty burn marks from the friction. All 3 horses,never ran again,all were euthanized. Needless to say,this was my first racing experience. Later,I did become a jockey. Moved far away from that track.
You're actually right. They also get the TB's from America sadly... That's why the horses are turned into a dinner after they have "done their job." in a factory which lacks care and cleanliness.
Technically, the rider is supposed to be in saddle and can not stand up before the wire. Remember The Maestro and, was it, Shoemaker. In this case, the track seems to have a wet spot and the rider and horse still crossed the finish line first! I would give the win to them. And tell the owners to rectify the problem.
The video quality is so bad that it was hard to see the legs. I had it running on 240p. What happened to the HD setting? A lot of the videos are more blurred now. Anyone notice anything like that?
ouch that is a very bad break. It looks like his stifle exploded. The same thing happened to Ruffian. That also means that the horse probably won't race again. It is a sad thing when stuff like this happens.
The great filly Ruffian broke her front leg, not the stifle, which is like our kneecap, the horse in this clip also broke the front leg. They would have put him down. A lot of owners/trainers would not want to try to have the leg fixed.
I am so glad the horse got back up! And @Vaettra... Restarted language, really? It's their language, so don't comment. Anyway, they probably think English is weird....sounds to us are words to them and vise versa
I close look seems to show he had both hands on the reins and his body,, or at least part was over the horse.That and the fact he was free and clear should hold him up for the win. I wish the poster would say what happened
No need to apologize! Nice to be corrected when I've made an assumption as I had!. But it's still all Greek to me! I'd not be able to tell the difference between Cantonese, Japanese, or Chinese from one another. Universal rules is the only way to go in racing I think, but as you say, it's likely a long way off before we see it happen. What a shame that is too! Been in this industry for more than 40 yrs. and know first hand, changes don't happen quickly in the horse racing biz.. Best of Luck!
I would say Keep the first place. he would of won anyways even if he had stayed on all fours. And it clearly shows he was over the line before the other horse.But since the Jockey was not mounted when crossing the finish line he would of been disqualified.
The jockey can be in the air. This happened in melb a couple of years back the horse jumped over the shadow of the finish line pushing the jockey into the air. He still had hold of the reigns and was declared a runner and won it coz he was still intact going past the line.
Ok its tragic for sure but putting that aside the jockey may have not hit the ground at the wire but the horse was clearly down before the wire so agree with the stewards on the disqualification.
In certain countries they mostly end up in slaughter if they have become suddenly non-productive through injury. It is not cost effective to just keep them. There are few buyers for permanently lame horses. If the country does not have a good hunter/jumper or dressage or trail riding industry, there is just no more use for the horse.
if the horse and jockey makes it they win. even if the horse or jockey dies after, its only fair to honor the race with them that won fairly. if the horses nose hits that finish line and the jockey is on it, they are entitled the victory.
Observing well the end of the race, i see that the rider detache himself from the horse before passing the final line, that is, the weight no longer affects the horse.
Sorry, have to disagree. I see the cannon bone was snapped and caused the horse to fall. The horse gets up and moves on 3 legs, but front left is waving around loose. Snapped. The horse was likely euthanized on the track before the next race. What race was this? Sad, but this does happen at races. Even this year at the Preakness there was a horse who had leg snap, then another collapsed after winning from heart giving out.
ouch! I really hope the horse is OK l....and rider. I hope they did get first place but I'm worrying more about if the horse was OK..and rider I don't think he's/her leg snaped because u saw he got up and raced agian the camera shown it. but I really hope they were all OK 😞😞😭😭
My apologies if you misunderstood me, mate but here was no offence taken and I hope there was none the other way. I was just clarifying a point for you. You are right though...we should have universal rules in racing, or as close as we can get to them, but I think it's a long, long way off. (Especially between jurisdictions such as Hong Kong/Australia etc and Japan/Europe etc.)
Rider is still on top of the horse -even airborne- and still holding harness. He only lands After the finish line, so technicaly speaking he hasn't dismounted horse till, both horse and rider, crossed the line. I'd rule him winner. Even if i'd have to add some sentiment of JUSTICE in my call. Besides; he DID win the race .. Asking for a DQ is simply wrong.
there should be no horse racing in the world... animals should not be used for such type of human entertainment... its a shame for humanity at large...
I agree. While we're at it, let's ban people riding horses at all. It's so cruel. We should let them into the fields to run free and let nature cull them the way it was intended... through freezing winters and when they overgraze and hundreds starve to death. You know what IS a shame to humanity? Ppl like you who don't have a clue what they're talking about.
bgardiner2000 nature is great indeed... while there are scraps like me, there are also lords like you to balance the nature... a lord of such understanding that he cannot differentiate between taking advantage of the animal for our own pleasure (horse racing) and caring and good behaviour for animals(upbringing them, giving them shelter, making provision for food for them)... oh my god, what a genius...mixing these 2 things as same... thanks god, you have used this lord to open my eyes... i was in such a darkness....i was such a SHAME for humanity... go little and big horses... go and finish yourselves for our baseless pleasures... after all you have been created for our such baseless pleasures.. you cannot be considered as better than that...!!!!!!!!
it is not bcoz once they have been used for this purpose that it should perpetuate. at a certain point in time, some human beings were enslaved..however it has changed once women were not allowed rights to vote, now its changed.. once everyone would throw their wastes in the streets, not bothering about the environment..now its changed... we human beings, we have got this quality of always improving on everything..we should contimue it with the horses and the animals. once, horses were taken from the wild, tamed and used for races..fine..may be it was ok at that time... but in this age, use animals for this purpose of human entertainment...??!!! unless the horses COULD SPEAK to us and tell us they love to be used for these types pf entertainment, i will not dare to simply use my personal observations (which may be biased) to proclaim that they love horse racing...!!! and thus in so doing try to convince my self, and to calm down my conscience, that what im doing is right it would be really human to, time and again, review our practices concerning these entertainment and apply corrective measure where necessary...
***** "field" horses arent drugged and abused. or at high risk of fatal injures. or tasered. or have their feet sored. pet horses of people who love them are treated way better. animals should not be used for entertainment.
Honestly most of the comments are about the placing and disqualification but almost no one is talking about the horse!? That's sad and disappointing, people.
the jockey push the horse into sprinting mode too early and keep pushing it into finish line...the horse can't handle it anymore, the jockey beat stick that might hit the leg only make it worse,
TO adeakin,so many ex racehorse are sold to slaughter house,in hong kong,singapore,japan,because they are no longer productive and it costs a lot to keep a horse..There are very few people who are willing to give them a home unless they are a breeding proposition or they were an extremely good racehorse and kept by thier owners..
it works that way in most races, you must be mounted as you cross the finish line. If you come off after you cross the line then you're okay. but it you come off before crossing the line, you are disqualified.
The rule is:: The horse must have his nose in front, and the jockey must have contact with the horse. When the horse crossed the finish-line, the jockey had the rains in his hands and won the race.
ummagummacologne I agree though I'd word it differently. The rule is:: The horse must have his nose in front at the finish line and the jockey must have contact with the horse, e.g. be in the saddle. and reins on the horse when the horse crosses the finish line in order to win the race. And in this case the rider clearly was not in contact with the horse at the finish line. Lucky Number 8 horse won.
This was the decision of the Stewards in Macau 24.8.2012 RACE-3 THE COLUMBUS RATING 50-30 (CLASS 4&5) 1050 METRES (498) Following the running of the race, the “Enquiry” sign was semaphored to establish whether PROFITABLE (A HELFENBEIN) finished the race. As the Stewards were satisfied that Jockey A HELFENBEIN remained in contact with PROFITABLE via the rein when that horse’s nose passed the finish line, the Stewards were satisfied that the horse be deemed a runner and therefore was able to be placed by the Judge. Correct Weight was given on the Judge’s placings: 1st PROFITABLE (A HELFENBEIN) 2nd THE STAR OF GEELY (L CORRALES) 3rd HOLSON (F DURSO) 4th NEOCORTEX (APPRENTICE Y M Choi) It was further established that PROFITABLE (A HELFENBEIN) broke down in the left fore fetlock joint and fell when crossing the line. As a consequence I GOT PICTURES (B YAMZON) which attempted to jump the fallen horse dislodged its rider and as the fallen horse regained its feet, it collided with WONDERFUL STEED (W L HO) resulting in Jockey W L HO being dislodged from his mount. Approaching the winning post THE STAR HOPE (T PEREIRA) was checked and steered out to avoid the fallen horses and riders. PROFITABLE was subsequently euthanased. Jockey A HELFENBEIN was examined by the Club’s Medical Officer and was stood down from further riding engagements this evening. Jockeys W L HO and B YAMZON were examined by the Club’s Medical Officer and cleared to ride.
The jockey must STAY on his horse to win !! ....hope he and the poor horse came out ok, I think the jockey was on him too high, around the horse's neck and that may have been why that happen ?
From what I know in the past, some horses, and I'm not saying every single horse, gets injected with steroids. They stick their legs in ice water to reduce swelling. Many have to have surgery because they pulled a muscle. But I'm not saying every horse is treated like this. Some horses are lucky to have a wonderful trainer, while others.... should burn in hell.
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A whip and a riding crop are two completely different things. A whip is a long thing strip of leather that can be snapped with great force. Think of a bull whip. They can split skin and cause great pain....a torture device even used on humans throughout history. A riding crop is TOTALLY DIFFERENT! Those used in racing have a small flat square leather flap that's flexible. Some horses have a tendency to loose concentration and even turn their heads to gawk. Where the head goes, the body can follow. You do not want a horse weaving into another's path. Some jockeys just use them to get a horse's attention back. No owner is going to want their investment scarred mentally or physically. NOTE: I am not a fan of racing. Too many horses are dying from poor breeding practices. Today's Thoroughbred IS NOT bred for longevity on the track. They aren't even close to the horses that ran 30 races with no injuries. They're running too young and on legs built like toothpicks! Sorry so long!
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This happened in 1982 at Aqueduct as well, a horse broke down as it was crossing the wire in front, and was disqualified. Another horse did the same but it crossed first on a broken leg and was not disqualified; that horse was Emporias.
Official result was to keep his first place, because the jockey was still holding the rein and not touching the ground at the finishing line
I'm just saying this I've lived next to a horse farm my whole life he races his horses and he races them in the professional races. Even the horses that take a huge gal and break a born are taken back and cared for they retire they move across the way to his game where his son lives where they live for the rest of there lives his horses never are put down unless the injuries are fatal. Yes some people put them down and yes sometimes horses break legs but the horses are loved and cared for!
that hurt just watching it. left front leg snapped midway down. brought back memories of 8 Bells'.
+Laurie Conway I sure do miss Eight Belles! What an awesome filly!
Tragedy aside, the rider was in contact with his mount crossing the finish line. No disqualification.
Tradegy aside! Not for the horse...I'm so glad someone won a few dollars, where they cashing in while the horse was dying...
Sarah, the horse may not of died as you can see it got up, immediately so perhaps it had a sprain.
WellConditioned
Did the horse stumble right before it fell!???
@@breyer4ever1000you can see the broken leg(s) when it stands up
his horses nose crossed the line first, give him the win, tend to the horse and allow him/her to retire a winner.
+rhino2960 But the rider was not on the horse so may not count as a win
+rhino2960 The horse looked like it broke its front left leg, retire in heven more like it.
COMO QUE NO? NUNCA TOCO EL SUELO ES DESCALIFICADO CUANDO TOCAN EL SUELO POR ESO MISMO AL NUNCA SOLTAR LAS RIENDAS DEL CABALLO Y CAER CUANDO LA CARRERA ESTABA TERMINADA ESO LE DA LA VICTORIA ES JUSTO GANADOR
+Luciano Pereyra that isn't a language stop pretending
+calvin L I don't think there is a rules that states the rider must be on the horse, just first nose to cross the line.
I love racing and have been working in race horse stables doing all things from mucking,grooming,to training but i will never get used to the whip mentality in some countries.. if you watch you will see the horse is in trouble a little wjile before it fell and the leg snapped/broke.. that horse must have run its heart out to manage that.. however i think they should lose the 1st place... kind of weird to see how diffrent the racing is in some other contries compared to norway and sweeden... i feel so bad for the horse and those who loved it but unless it had damage in that leg from prior actdents i dont see how it could have been prevented.. as for wether loosing 1st place or not-thats a tecnacatily and it comes down to regulationd in that contry where the race was held... glad it did not turn out to be a bigger accident with more horses,cause it could so easely have happened.... :/
For every male or female jockey around the world, next race can be the last one. And like Hall of Fame american jockey Mike Smith said once: "If you don´t win, you´re not paid" Greetings from Venezuela.
Caroni100 Find a real job
You can clearly see in the slow motion while the horse is rolling that his front left leg is broken and likely the cause of his fall. They run these horses hard that sadly these 'blow out' injuries are common. So even if he did win the race, he lost his life doing so.
@Abdiel_Lopezboriua2015if a horses leg breaks it usually means the horse is shot/killed because it's hard for horses to live with three legs, they aren't meant to be on stable rest, and an extensive surgery for thr leg would mean the horse has to rest a long time- and would likely develop laminitis and die
The horsse should be declared as 1st since both the Jockey and the Horse fell down after haqvind touched the winning post which is evident from the video.
he won the race sure. he was acros the finish line first. fair and square, just unfortunately wasnt the best way to do it
Only when the last tree has died, the last lake has been poisoned, the last fish has been caught, and the last animal has gone extinct will we realize that we cannot eat money. We will realize all our mistakes. Something as simple as horse racing can even turn out to be a mistake.
If all trees were dead, we'd die.
I'm not bullying disabled children... My own cousin has her own disabilites.. The point is that in GENERAL, humans tend to take advantage of anything. Animals is just one of them. End of conversation.
Cheetah Wooz you can but i guarantee it wont be of benefit...
But aren't racing horses bred seperately to normal horses, as thoroughbreads? So they don't affect any statistics on the horse population? Granted, it's horrible to see horses be put through this, but your statement makes no sense here.
Kath Beck jeez. Did you over react to a simple musing about how man ( in the genetic sense) uses and abuses everything around him ( as in mankind) without respect and for profit. I agree with her. She said NOTHING about denying riding programs for the disabled. That was a real stretch .....
My Lord, that poor horse!
He never touched the ground and had contact with the Horse under and passed the finish line. He won! Jockey and horse did not separate they were in contact until passed the line and contacting the ground.
+Frank Dioguardi depends on the rules - some may demand that the horse carry its weight the entire length of the race and in that case it would not be counted as a win. Even only if a weight slipped out of the saddle bag the ruling would be the same as if the jockey go thrown off
Thanks for teaching me, from the replay the hand still in contact and had not touch the ground.
He won fair & square. His head made it across the finish line before the #2 Horse. There was another incident just like this years ago where the jockey wound up standing on the horses side while it glided, sliding across the finish on a soggy wet track. They won despite the fall.
Rember the dead jocky who won a race...had a heart attack during race..
Thats awesome horse racing. I love to ride my horse too. Here i come to support your channel.
I love the comments about how the horses are treated like royalty. This industry is running horses whose bones aren't formed yet at full speed and want to talk about how great they treat them. These BABIES shouldn't even be at a full run yet and you all know it, so stop making excuses for your pathetic industry. Sure, you treat them wonderfully and when they don't come home from the track because you killed them, you just use their tack on the next horse. You tell yourself whatever you want so you can sleep at night; I know I wouldn't be able to.
+gootubesucks bigtime This particular Gelding was already seven.
gootubesucks bigtime yes, and once they are done racing at like 4 years old they get sent to the slaughter house, and most race horses are abused. The race horse industry is terrible
Even though he won easily the Belmont and the Preakness, Man o' War never won the Triple Crown because Sam Riddle didn't enter him in the Kentucky Derby because he felt it was too early in the season for a colt to run a race that long. Riddle put the welfare of his horse above the glory of winning the Triple Crown
an industry revolve around animals tend to go that way, these horses are breed to run, just like female chicken breed to be fried chicken, when they can't handle the overgrowth hormone, they become crippled, and can't eat properly therefore can grow into preferable weight, and the owner just make them into ground meat and sold at cheaper price than the chicken which manage into the slaughter house
Annika Block it seems you are willfully ignoring organizations that re-home and re-train retired race horses. Secondly, do show me *real* proof that most race horses are abused.
Another snapped leg...you can see it dangling....repulsive....poor horse....jockey's have a choice...
yep another form of exploiting animals for money and entertainment :(
no1horselover Ditto...to all you said...
no1horselover
Isn't it great?
"My horse is not food? What do you mean? It's delicious.
jstrahan2 ,,,lol...get your own to eat....Good luck getting one to eat that is not loaded with just half of the known drugs that are given to horses...My 9 horses have been given many of these drugs at one time or another. I would not want to be responsible for making you sick. Many other horse owners are not so considerate & the meat inspectors & kill-buyers do not care- there are NO controls like with cattle & pigs ect. Support your small family farms & farmers markets..we care what you eat-we are eating it too!
the falling horse won
To those that said the winning horse did not die..Watch whole video not just part of it,the winner clearly has a broken leg and was put down after the race..Read the post of the official..There were a number of riders dislodged from the horses you see continuing after the race but the winner was not one of them..
I feel SO bad for it
Let the horse run in their way not yours
You gotta trust in your horse
Poor horse
It reminds me a bit of ruffian :'(
Jeez- poor horse and jockey. As to who ''won'', I just hope that the horse and rider survived without bad injury. The fallen horse was leading well, so if I was the judge, I would say ''let him have the prize''- not that winning means much to a horse, the money part anyway. they like to be in the lead, though.
wow, I thought Ay-ya was just the Uncle from Jackie Chan adventure's catchphrase
Winner!!! NOSE CROSSED WIRE. JOCKEY NEVER TOUCHED GROUND AND WAS TOUCHING THE HORSE
Well,.. wasn't meaning to offend by assuming Japan. Yes, I have heard of Macau. Figured I'd been correct on the ruling too. Not sure if this would be anything that'd vary at all from one Country to the other. We should all be united in all rulings in horse racing! thanks for letting me know!
Assuming this is in japan,... If the rules are the same there as US, the Jockey must maintain contact with the horse, as the horse crosses under the wire. Couldn't really see to tell if this jockey had held onto the reins or not. But this jock clearly had not maintaied contact with his mount. A very nasty spill on what appears to have been a very hard racing surface. What was the Officials ruling? I'm interested to know. If the racing rules are same as ours. I'd have to say, DQ.
am i the only one that sees the dangling broken leg?....
ANOTHER clear incident of a leg broken!!!!!! Damn the breeders, jockeys, trainers and owners
The horse and jockey hit the finish first... He won!!!
It's in Macau, which is a Special Administrative Region of China. The commentary is on Cantonese. You are correct on the Disqualification, though.
This horse was a "winner" and if you check it was also destroyed that same day, some winner don't you like the prize?
Anybody know the horses' name? Looks like a fantastic runner.
LookED like a fantastic runner. He snapped a front leg, probably was put down immediately with an injury like that. I bet the horse had a problem before the race, and the trainer knew it. Happens all the time Injured horses get doped up with legal or illegal pain meds, raced, and they break down. Its a wonder the jockeys don't just plain refuse to ride, until punishments for this are much more severe than they are now.
The first horse race of the season,race 1,1:00 P.M.,my first time seeing a race live, and there was a sheet of ice under the water on the track.Just as the horses hit the last turn,3 horses slipped and spun out of control. Throwing the jockeys hard on the ice.In which they spun and slid. Leaving nasty burn marks from the friction. All 3 horses,never
ran again,all were euthanized. Needless to say,this was my first racing experience. Later,I did become a jockey. Moved far away from that track.
I work at a race track and have seen that same thing happen.
God, the officials at the race , sure where scratching their heads for this one !
In the rallenty it looks like the track where the horse fall down was extremely soft. Is it only my impression ?
No its not it is actually rather hard and the rider probably suffered broken bones and the horse was most likely put down due to injuries.
+helema23 Yes :( It looks like the poor animal broke its leg
it seems fine to me but it might be softer than it should be
I feel bad for the horse. Really,really bad. I'm not sure did the horse have a heart attack or what?
You're actually right. They also get the TB's from America sadly...
That's why the horses are turned into a dinner after they have "done their job." in a factory which lacks care and cleanliness.
Technically, the rider is supposed to be in saddle and can not stand up before the wire. Remember The Maestro and, was it, Shoemaker. In this case, the track seems to have a wet spot and the rider and horse still crossed the finish line first! I would give the win to them. And tell the owners to rectify the problem.
The jockey broke the hart of that champion
He was should be take that win with a easy way no pushing hard no havy wipe
The video quality is so bad that it was hard to see the legs. I had it running on 240p. What happened to the HD setting? A lot of the videos are more blurred now. Anyone notice anything like that?
Yes this is the horse racing accident I never seen in my live.
he was riding the horse and pushing him to hard for no reason he already has a big 7 length lead
( I hope the horse is ok!! )
ouch that is a very bad break. It looks like his stifle exploded. The same thing happened to Ruffian. That also means that the horse probably won't race again. It is a sad thing when stuff like this happens.
The great filly Ruffian broke her front leg, not the stifle, which is like our kneecap, the horse in this clip also broke the front leg. They would have put him down. A lot of owners/trainers would not want to try to have the leg fixed.
I am so glad the horse got back up! And @Vaettra... Restarted language, really? It's their language, so don't comment. Anyway, they probably think English is weird....sounds to us are words to them and vise versa
that horse who fell was definitely the first to cross the finish line. No question for me.
Is the ground okay?
He/she still ha contact with the horse when they passed the line but I am not saying they should be disqualified or keep first place
winna winna chiken dinna! jock had not touched the ground and was still in contact with the horse when its nose hit the wire
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I close look seems to show he had both hands on the reins and his body,, or at least part was over the horse.That and the fact he was free and clear should hold him up for the win. I wish the poster would say what happened
No need to apologize! Nice to be corrected when I've made an assumption as I had!. But it's still all Greek to me! I'd not be able to tell the difference between Cantonese, Japanese, or Chinese from one another.
Universal rules is the only way to go in racing I think, but as you say, it's likely a long way off before we see it happen. What a shame that is too! Been in this industry for more than 40 yrs. and know first hand, changes don't happen quickly in the horse racing biz.. Best of Luck!
I would say Keep the first place. he would of won anyways even if he had stayed on all fours. And it clearly shows he was over the line before the other horse.But since the Jockey was not mounted when crossing the finish line he would of been disqualified.
The jockey can be in the air. This happened in melb a couple of years back the horse jumped over the shadow of the finish line pushing the jockey into the air. He still had hold of the reigns and was declared a runner and won it coz he was still intact going past the line.
Ok its tragic for sure but putting that aside the jockey may have not hit the ground at the wire but the horse was clearly down before the wire so agree with the stewards on the disqualification.
In certain countries they mostly end up in slaughter if they have become suddenly non-productive through injury. It is not cost effective to just keep them. There are few buyers for permanently lame horses. If the country does not have a good hunter/jumper or dressage or trail riding industry, there is just no more use for the horse.
if the horse and jockey makes it they win. even if the horse or jockey dies after, its only fair to honor the race with them that won fairly. if the horses nose hits that finish line and the jockey is on it, they are entitled the victory.
DNF BY DISQUALIFICATION! The (3) horse slid down shy of the finish line, dumping off its jockey!
Where did this happen?
What a win picture that must have been...
poor horses
Observing well the end of the race, i see that the rider detache himself from the horse before passing the final line, that is, the weight no longer affects the horse.
Disqualified unfortuently :< Jockey dismounted before crossing the line. (I'd be pissed :> )
Hope the horse is ok
They probably put it down knowing racing
The jockey was still in contact with the horse as the reigns are acknowledged as to be an integral part of a horse.
Ergo, the horse would win the race
Oh... that's awful - left front leg snapped.
No it didn't ...it was still cantering on after it got up...
Sorry, have to disagree. I see the cannon bone was snapped and caused the horse to fall. The horse gets up and moves on 3 legs, but front left is waving around loose. Snapped. The horse was likely euthanized on the track before the next race. What race was this? Sad, but this does happen at races. Even this year at the Preakness there was a horse who had leg snap, then another collapsed after winning from heart giving out.
Thats a very close call.the decision to disqualify or award the fallen horse the winner could have gone either way..tragic about the fallen horse..
but the jockey was not aboard at the finish line. he was thrown off already, so no victory for him or the horse.
ouch! I really hope the horse is OK l....and rider. I hope they did get first place but I'm worrying more about if the horse was OK..and rider I don't think he's/her leg snaped because u saw he got up and raced agian the camera shown it. but I really hope they were all OK 😞😞😭😭
the jockey goes across the finish line before the horse!!
The problem is, they are RIDDEN TOO YOUNG, and the basic schooling is not long and good enough!
Was every horse okay? One broke it´s leg as I can see in comments but where every horse okay after that? Did the horse with the broken leg live?
Usually horses who have broken any bones (including legs) are put down. Unfortunately, that was probably the case here (although I am not positive)
The jockey has to be in the saddle to win.
My apologies if you misunderstood me, mate but here was no offence taken and I hope there was none the other way. I was just clarifying a point for you. You are right though...we should have universal rules in racing, or as close as we can get to them, but I think it's a long, long way off. (Especially between jurisdictions such as Hong Kong/Australia etc and Japan/Europe etc.)
Well if the rules state the rider has to be mounted then he is disqualified... What a weird accident? I hope horse and rider are okay.
Rider is still on top of the horse -even airborne- and still holding harness. He only lands After the finish line, so technicaly speaking he hasn't dismounted horse till, both horse and rider, crossed the line. I'd rule him winner. Even if i'd have to add some sentiment of JUSTICE in my call.
Besides; he DID win the race ..
Asking for a DQ is simply wrong.
That was sad, horse lost its life, racing so fast on that dirt track! They're not good for horses limbs
there should be no horse racing in the world...
animals should not be used for such type of human entertainment...
its a shame for humanity at large...
I agree. While we're at it, let's ban people riding horses at all. It's so cruel. We should let them into the fields to run free and let nature cull them the way it was intended... through freezing winters and when they overgraze and hundreds starve to death. You know what IS a shame to humanity? Ppl like you who don't have a clue what they're talking about.
bgardiner2000 nature is great indeed...
while there are scraps like me, there are also lords like you to balance the nature...
a lord of such understanding that he cannot differentiate between taking advantage of the animal for our own pleasure (horse racing) and caring and good behaviour for animals(upbringing them, giving them shelter, making provision for food for them)...
oh my god, what a genius...mixing these 2 things as same...
thanks god, you have used this lord to open my eyes...
i was in such a darkness....i was such a SHAME for humanity...
go little and big horses...
go and finish yourselves for our baseless pleasures...
after all you have been created for our such baseless pleasures..
you cannot be considered as better than that...!!!!!!!!
The Best
it is not bcoz once they have been used for this purpose that it should perpetuate.
at a certain point in time, some human beings were enslaved..however it has changed
once women were not allowed rights to vote, now its changed..
once everyone would throw their wastes in the streets, not bothering about the environment..now its changed...
we human beings, we have got this quality of always improving on everything..we should contimue it with the horses and the animals.
once, horses were taken from the wild, tamed and used for races..fine..may be it was ok at that time...
but in this age, use animals for this purpose of human entertainment...??!!!
unless the horses COULD SPEAK to us and tell us they love to be used for these types pf entertainment, i will not dare to simply use my personal observations (which may be biased) to proclaim that they love horse racing...!!!
and thus in so doing try to convince my self, and to calm down my conscience, that what im doing is right
it would be really human to, time and again, review our practices concerning these entertainment and apply corrective measure where necessary...
***** "field" horses arent drugged and abused. or at high risk of fatal injures. or tasered. or have their feet sored. pet horses of people who love them are treated way better. animals should not be used for entertainment.
Honestly most of the comments are about the placing and disqualification but almost no one is talking about the horse!? That's sad and disappointing, people.
I hate horse racing! A horse falls and DIES and then people are just like “Oh yeah, whatever what can we do”
the jockey push the horse into sprinting mode too early and keep pushing it into finish line...the horse can't handle it anymore, the jockey beat stick that might hit the leg only make it worse,
TO adeakin,so many ex racehorse are sold to slaughter house,in hong kong,singapore,japan,because they are no longer productive and it costs a lot to keep a horse..There are very few people who are willing to give them a home unless they are a breeding proposition or they were an extremely good racehorse and kept by thier owners..
it works that way in most races, you must be mounted as you cross the finish line. If you come off after you cross the line then you're okay. but it you come off before crossing the line, you are disqualified.
The rule is:: The horse must have his nose in front, and the jockey must have contact with the horse. When the horse crossed the finish-line, the jockey had the rains in his hands and won the race.
ummagummacologne Oh I didn't see him holding the reins... I didn't look that close. That's makes more sense. Thank you for clarification :)
ummagummacologne I agree though I'd word it differently. The rule is:: The horse must have his nose in front at the finish line and the jockey must have contact with the horse, e.g. be in the saddle. and reins on the horse when the horse crosses the finish line in order to win the race. And in this case the rider clearly was not in contact with the horse at the finish line. Lucky Number 8 horse won.
This was the decision of the Stewards in Macau 24.8.2012
RACE-3 THE COLUMBUS RATING 50-30 (CLASS 4&5) 1050 METRES (498)
Following the running of the race, the “Enquiry” sign was semaphored to establish whether PROFITABLE (A HELFENBEIN) finished the race. As the Stewards were satisfied that Jockey A HELFENBEIN remained in contact with PROFITABLE via the rein when that horse’s nose passed the finish line, the Stewards were satisfied that the horse be deemed a runner and therefore was able to be placed by the Judge. Correct Weight was given on the Judge’s placings:
1st PROFITABLE (A HELFENBEIN)
2nd THE STAR OF GEELY (L CORRALES)
3rd HOLSON (F DURSO)
4th NEOCORTEX (APPRENTICE Y M Choi)
It was further established that PROFITABLE (A HELFENBEIN) broke down in the left fore fetlock joint and fell when crossing the line. As a consequence I GOT PICTURES (B YAMZON) which attempted to jump the fallen horse dislodged its rider and as the fallen horse regained its feet, it collided with WONDERFUL STEED (W L HO) resulting in Jockey W L HO being dislodged from his mount. Approaching the winning post THE STAR HOPE (T PEREIRA) was checked and steered out to avoid the fallen horses and riders. PROFITABLE was subsequently euthanased. Jockey A HELFENBEIN was examined by the Club’s Medical Officer and was stood down from further riding engagements this evening. Jockeys W L HO and B YAMZON were examined by the Club’s Medical Officer and cleared to ride.
Tragic that Profitable met such a fate.
I haven't watched it yet I'm too scared
Whats the name of this horse
The jockey must STAY on his horse to win !! ....hope he and the poor horse came out ok, I think the jockey was on him too high, around the horse's neck and that may have been why that happen ?
This is a definite win..
That jocky should have let go of the reins after flipping, he probably dragged the horse's face through a lot of dirt by holding on.
If I had to choose on the aftermath I think should there looks like no interference to me
From what I know in the past, some horses, and I'm not saying every single horse, gets injected with steroids. They stick their legs in ice water to reduce swelling. Many have to have surgery because they pulled a muscle. But I'm not saying every horse is treated like this. Some horses are lucky to have a wonderful trainer, while others.... should burn in hell.
Jockey has to be on the horses back when they cross the wire to win the race. This jockey wasn't anymore so he probably didn't win.
I didn't realize they had horse races in China. . . yup that is all I have to contribute. . .
the fix was in😂😂😂
Wing wah sue? Hoy kee low. Hoz fel don, we went home, Ate de hoz
I only hit like for the funny as fuck race caller😭
OMG was für eine Tierquälerei ,kein Pferd ist als Sportgerät auf die Welt gekommen !!!
Und machst du was dagegen? Nein, tust du nicht. Du willst nur beschweren und schreibst nur blöde Comments und bist wirklich scheiss egal das Pferderennen Tierquälerei ist. Jederbeschwert sich unter millionen youtube videos, aber fast alle die schreiben tun etwas. Das heisst 1) faul zu sein, 2) egal zu sein, und 3) nur mecken weil du kannst.
+John John Was tust Du ,blöde Antworten geben .
+John John 666ryn
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I think the jockey was still in touch with the horse when the horses nose went past the line...therefore...he won the race.
Wow i cant believe i didnt back that horse my luck must be changing haha
A whip and a riding crop are two completely different things. A whip is a long thing strip of leather that can be snapped with great force. Think of a bull whip. They can split skin and cause great pain....a torture device even used on humans throughout history. A riding crop is TOTALLY DIFFERENT! Those used in racing have a small flat square leather flap that's flexible. Some horses have a tendency to loose concentration and even turn their heads to gawk. Where the head goes, the body can follow. You do not want a horse weaving into another's path. Some jockeys just use them to get a horse's attention back. No owner is going to want their investment scarred mentally or physically. NOTE: I am not a fan of racing. Too many horses are dying from poor breeding practices. Today's Thoroughbred IS NOT bred for longevity on the track. They aren't even close to the horses that ran 30 races with no injuries. They're running too young and on legs built like toothpicks! Sorry so long!