Classic Railroad Series 1192 - Guilford RR Train Wreck During Labor Strike

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ม.ค. 2018
  • Here's a little bit more of the train wreck that occurred during one of the Guilford Railroad Strikes in Maine during the mid 1980's. I took this video in So. Brewer, Maine. There was a switch leading off from the Bucksport Branch into the where the Eastern Fine Paper mill was located and this is appears to be where the engines began their derailment. This is about two miles from the ex Maine Central Railroad's Bangor, ME Yard.
    The video is about 9 minutes and its contents are mostly the interaction between striking members and replacement workers and those few who crossed the picket line.
    WARNING: Some language may not be suitable for some people. Remember, there is a carrier/labor work action in progress so expect to hear some very rough language throughout and especially towards the end of the video. If that offends you then don't watch.

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  • @BERXJoe
    @BERXJoe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Locomotive: Can you just put me back on the rails? I'm so over this...

  • @camsmith7651
    @camsmith7651 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Who's the neanderthal in the blue jacket, black hat swinging his arms like a baboon.?

  • @derekg1524
    @derekg1524 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    The Maine Central strike nearly shut down the entire US Railroad Freight network. A lot of things changed after this.

    • @NguageTrains
      @NguageTrains 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Who cares it’s the railroad unions that killed railroads off. There greed and drinking and drug use on company time is what sank them

  • @brianburns7211
    @brianburns7211 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    That was a nasty strike. When I started at D&H there were still guys that nobody talked to because they had scabbed in ‘86. I started 14 years after the strike.

    • @NguageTrains
      @NguageTrains 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A loser in life is a success at the railroad

    • @scotabot7826
      @scotabot7826 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Screw them!! You don't go to work to make friends anyway.

    • @NguageTrains
      @NguageTrains 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@scotabot7826 no you certainly don’t….

  • @notch8971
    @notch8971 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    There are a lot of scabs that came off the D&H i know i worked worth a few

  • @CaptDesmo
    @CaptDesmo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now look at it…. Gone all gone….

  • @hunterthelord
    @hunterthelord 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    i wonder where that loud mouth is today?

    • @brianburns7211
      @brianburns7211 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      hazardharry At least he has a clean conscience.

    • @towny72
      @towny72 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@brianburns7211 Right or wrong the man was fighting for his lively hood. The economic scene of the North East was not a pretty site at this time, hard to say something negative about a man that is watching his career slipping away.

    • @brianburns7211
      @brianburns7211 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      towny72 I work for D&H. Some of the scabs were still working when I hired out. My era started 13 years after the strike, and let me tell you that the scabs were still hated.

    • @cxheidorn
      @cxheidorn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@brianburns7211 I started in 2004 and you bet we all know who the Scabs were by the end of the first week.

    • @camsmith7651
      @camsmith7651 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sitting in McDonald's asking for another big mac

  • @IDapto77
    @IDapto77 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Some of these people striking probably agreed to the 1992 crew consist agreement which sold out the brakeman and is currently paving the way for one man cabs.

  • @johnhiltondog2495
    @johnhiltondog2495 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow old

  • @Henry5623
    @Henry5623 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thankfully the era of these kind of hostile cesspools bleeding out into the public are all but over as the industry would have law enforcement bringing these shit shows to an end before they even got started. Liability reasons alone would have kept them in check fast and any interference with daily operations or tampering with equipment would land you with federal charges. This is the post 9/11 world we live in after all.
    I’m just glad this era in railroading came and went. I understand why scabs are the scum of this industry but at the same time attacking them instead of the management that ultimately allowed these kind of situations to develop to start with is about as logical as divorcing your wife and then hating her new boyfriend. YOU chose to leave. So don’t be mad when someone else fills your position even if you felt justified in walking away. Atrocious management was the catalyst for this mess occurring to start with. Attacking those trying to earn a living and support their families was doing nothing other then encouraging management to view union cries as white noise not worth anyone’s time to hear. If you can’t present your argument in a focused, logical, respectable fashion that can be taken seriously, you’re not smart enough to need your opinion heard no matter how loud you want to yell it.
    -Nearly two decades working for UP.

    • @NguageTrains
      @NguageTrains 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      A loser in life is a success at the railroad

    • @GRS504videos
      @GRS504videos ปีที่แล้ว

      Unfortunately some of these hardcore union believers are too stupid to understand is not the workers that are the problems, it's the shitty management that's been strangling the industry for far too long with their political buddies, and hedge fund cuts.

  • @jeffreyaumand6447
    @jeffreyaumand6447 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Either way, scabs suck and so didn't some management. Guilford certainly sucked BIG TIME.

    • @jonathanbaird8109
      @jonathanbaird8109 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Imagine telling someone else that they shouldn't have the ability to earn a living for their family if it means interfering with you getting what you want. Talk about entitlement.

    • @jeffreyaumand6447
      @jeffreyaumand6447 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @jonathanbaird8109 They still suck!!!!

    • @jeffreyaumand6447
      @jeffreyaumand6447 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jonathanbaird8109 Look who's entitled...

  • @flozal72
    @flozal72 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    sonny douglas was a coward according to the strikers lol

    • @danhoyland142
      @danhoyland142 ปีที่แล้ว

      lol that was the only piece I could make out. I wonder who this extremely loud guy was? I actually love him and admire his enthusiasm for what he believes in. Don’t get me wrong, this was before my time and things have changed, but this guy has nutsack the size of a bag of potatoes. Also, it’s this video gives good perspective into the choices each side made and the consequences 30 some odd years later. Yup, it’s all gone.

  • @benkleschinsky
    @benkleschinsky 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    The working class needs to remember how to fight for their rights in the workplace again.

    • @scotabot7826
      @scotabot7826 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea, All while they are drunk, and high on drugs just like the RR's were in the 1970's and 1980's. Yes, what fine POS's these working class were. That's ok, they got what they were after. Failure of the RR's, and there party jobs.

  • @BMMEC6000
    @BMMEC6000 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Some of this shit is just funny! A bunch of New Englanders screaming at each other (no doubt a few were drunk)!

  • @osrr6422
    @osrr6422 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The companies wanted the infighting to distract from what was going on. Now days, I can say the unions have basically sold us out. Can't strike, barely negotiate for better wages, its all boiled down to "They can do that". When they sold out us out on our ability to strike, the union should've been gotten rid of, would've been better off just letting everything go to arbitration like it does now anyway. Our last contract gained us nothing (conductors), and now the railroad (Eastern class 1, I'll let you decide) won't even negotiate, they're wanting one man crews. I'm 12 years into this "career" and I've gotten hardly a raise worth even talking about, yet alone keeping up with cost of living. As much as I love what I do, I've been thinking long and hard about finding something else.
    The work force needs to be able to hit the management (and the company) where it hurts when things go side ways, now days everyone is had by the balls, be it for whatever reason, most of us are simply trying to survive and a more and more expensive world.

  • @fhowland
    @fhowland 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    God, union thugs are the worst. Get a life, or better yet, if you hate your job so much, quit and find a better one, rather than yelling at some guys just trying to feed their family.

    • @benhartin5499
      @benhartin5499 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Why? Because they actually want to fight greedy employers who try to screw over the working man any chance they get? Scabs are by far the worst, they still show up to work, but as soon as they screw up or get hurt, no matter if it was the companies fault or not, they will be fired and forgotten like the trash they are.

    • @quinnwhite2648
      @quinnwhite2648 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Said by someone who didn't get royally screwed by Guilford or Mellon Head...

    • @benhartin5499
      @benhartin5499 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And for what it is worth, they loved their job until Guilford came along and tried to cut everyone's wages, while screwing the guys who had the highest seniority out of their pension. So yeah, I think they were in the right. And unlike you, they probably don't want to work until they are a cripple.

    • @scotabot7826
      @scotabot7826 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@benhartin5499 "Scabs" are the Heros!!! These greedy union drunks got what they deserved in the end. Good Riddance. I bet that loudmouth ahole beats his wife too. What a disgrace. He lost in the end!!!! These men working to get the locomotive rerailed are the best!! Yes!!

    • @benhartin5499
      @benhartin5499 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@scotabot7826 The union was in the right during the Guilford strike. Mellonhead and Fink the Dink came to town and implemented the first round of lay-offs to clear house of all of the high seniority men which were less than a few years from retiring. The safety training they implemented was subpar as well as the unsafe working conditions which still plague the railroad to this day. I can't wait for the day that Mellonhead keels over and gets to have a reunion in hell with the scab cocksuckers that he hired and later screwed over harder than the union guys (In the long run, the scabs got sent to work on the D&H which was then dumped by Guilford. None of the operators which took over afterwards needed them since they had enough of a workforce in the area that they could cover the positions the scabs held).

  • @onrr1726
    @onrr1726 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Strikes like this are what made my employers mind up to stop shipping by rail in favor of trucking. Even now with a new shortline operating the same tracks the company is quick to turn away anyone from the railroad looking to offer their business. I can't blame my employer anymore than the next guy when stuff needs to go or be delivered we can't wait for the games between the railroad management and the unions to sit and figure things out.

    • @newpylong
      @newpylong หลายเดือนก่อน

      Those days are over, I would give G&W a chance.

  • @stevenconnolly7907
    @stevenconnolly7907 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Staggers Rail Degregulation Act of 1980 would place the entire industry in a position to compete directly with trucking.
    Some difficult economics.
    Cost cutting was enivatible, such was this scene that would later be leased and replicated by Springfield Terminal. 🛤️