Could Turkey Actually Join the EU?
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After Turkey switched stances to allow Sweden to join NATO, many believe Erdogan is using this position to leverage more EU accession talks. So in this video, we explain the history of their relations and whether Turkey might actually join the EU.
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00:00 Introduction
00:53 Pre-2005
02:02 2005-2016
02:52 2016-Now
05:43 Will Turkey Join the EU?
07:35 Brilliant
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I feel like there is a higher chance of the Ottoman Empire coming back than Turkey joining the EU.
Based ottoman empire joins eu? 😂
Or Constantinople becomes again the capital of the Roman Empire
Erdogan Empire*, that will be the name of the dynasty
@@AmirSatt LOL, probably.. and considering his family 'success' probably is a very short dive.. 🤣
@@AmirSatt lol
You guys made a mistake at 4:37, The border highlighted was the Turkish-Iranian border. Syria is to the south of Turkey
@@zUJ7EjVD 🤨🤨😧
@@zUJ7EjVD They do, but I don't think TLDR will deliberately make stupid mistakes and harm their credibility as a serious news source just for some clicks
Came here to say the exact same thing! TLDR puts out so much content, there's bound to be an honest mistake somewhere
@@SirComsicion If it's for clicks, that's bad. But if it's an honest mistake, that's even worse. How come a serious news channel confuse Syria with Iran? That's like labeling Germany as Italy when showing France's neighbors. There should have been at least one person to know that is wrong.
@@emreapaydn4064 they have 5 channels and post daily in most of them, I don't think this is telling of anything. Given all the data points in each video, and having to make original graphics, and the audio about the drone being shot down over Syria is still correct...
That means it came down to them accidentally clicking on Iran when using the fill tool in paint. If getting a 99.5% in a class is good enough for Harvard, it should be good enough for us.
Even Turks, as myself, don’t believe it. Erdogan himself doesn't believe it. He just use it for internal politics or external investments to Turkiye.
It also doesn't matter to enter EU. Turkey's should reform itself. With the right moves, it can easily be the power house of the region. Plus, no need to be part of the union, just apply EU standards in law, justice and economy.
Turkey? Reform towards who? Isn’t Turkiye already a powerhouse? EU laws in Turkiye? You put all the wrong reasons in one comment! Or are you one of those Carbonated Bottle Caps who is about %47 of Turkiye? Kime hizmet ediyorsun sen!
Those EU standards would stop Erdogan and his friends making billions, so it will never happen.
Hay ağzına sağlık..yorumları okuyorum da sanki biz çok hevesliyiz de..kendini beğenmiş kibir abideleri..
That's what should we talking about
The pirate nation Turkey has invaded and currently occupies many countries, including a EU country (Cyprus) since 1974.
It is therefore 100% impossible for the pirate nation Turkey to join the EU.
The EU is not allowed to accept Turkey membership while Turkey continues to act like pirates and illegally invade and occupy many countries.
I can think of many reasons for Turkey not joining the EU:
Their terrible economy
The dictatorship regime
Their borders which reach the middlea east
Taking part in the war in the middle east
Being a muslim nation which means..they don't align with western values
Their aggresive stance against Greece mostly
Not recognising Cyprus while recognising "The Turkish northern Cyprus"
Their ties with Russia/ problems in NATO
AND their POPULATION. They would be the country with the MOST representatives in the european parliament..
Those are the most impotant ones.
Wake up Turkey and get a reality check.
When Turkey :
- adopts civilised principles,
- stops acting like a pirate nation,
- stops violating human rights like it’s an Olympic sport,
- stop threatening every single country in the region with more invasions because Turkey suffers from small d*ck syndrome,
- stops implementing ongoing genocides,
- stops using chemical weapons on minority groups like the Kurds,
- stops ignoring international law and treaties,
- and quite simply starts resembling a modern day 21st century civilised country
Then maybe then Turkey will be considered a modern day civilised nation .
It’s that simple !!!
Turkey is in a constant self inflicted backward state.
as a turk I agree with you but we are not a muslim nation and under the right government we would definetely align with western values.
@@dorukhanbozkurt5826bro sorry but half your population are islamists...
Christianity is not a European religion. The real religion of Europe was paganism of Greek origin. There was no civilization in Northern Europe, and they had a different pagan belief. This was the situation in Europe before Christianity
@@dorukhanbozkurt5826 brother, the infidels will hate you just bcause 500 yrs ago the ottomans were stepping on their necks. the sooner you realize that the better, turky has to come back to the ummah.
So I personally don’t see it happening simply because the EU already is annoyed with hungry and Poland. Turkey would be much worse than them.
If they met the preconditions, that wouldn't be an issue.
They have no intention of meeting those conditions.
@@SkyGlitchGalaxyplus, Cyprus has a veto.
@@frankkobold😂 don't forget greece
Don’t say never when they are promising eu membership to a corrupt country like Ukraine.
I fully support Ukraine in the war, but lets not forget their reputation pre war. Not as if thats gonna magically dissapear now when it finishes
@@beepboopbeepp saying they can join and letting them join is 2 different things, as having them actually join means a lot of requirements which Ukraine would have to meet.
At this point, Serbia is more likely to join ASEAN than Turkey is likely to join the EU
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Fun Fact: Singapore was both the only country to approve Serbia joining ASEAN, and the only country to not approve East Timor joining ASEAN
Fuck it, let them in
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😂😂😂
There's more chance of aliens landing on earth than there is of Turkey joining the EU.
LOOOL thats right
You guys act like it's hard, aliens can already be here.
well now we have aliens xd
soooo when is turkey joining the eu?
@@elenwen5784 When the aliens make themselves known.
As a turkish person i can easily say we dont want to be in eu anymore. We know it will never going to happen especially with this government. So i think Turkey should keep its relations with europe as a nato ally.
Turkey can join the EU but never under a corrupt authoritarian regime. We already have Hungary and to some extend Poland as difficult members.
As an European I can tell you we never wanted Turkey in the EU and we never will. And also we should kick you out of NATO as well
Turkey needs to make pacts and allies with Eastern world and make that flourish.its history is more in middle east then europe.
@@nitroall If i remember right like a ten years ago we had free visa to all eu members. But i have to say most of us wont be able to go to the europe with this poor economy so probably nothing would change.
@@fan2hd277 You are right
Looking at how North Macedonia has massive difficulties joining it, I doubt it will happen considering Greece and Cyprus will demand massive concession from Turkey.
Turkey is occupying half of Cyprus so first there is that.
@@starman1144 Yeah and Turkey continously trying to pretend they own the Aegean Sea, even though Greek owns it, cause of their islands
@@teaser6089U mean islands which are way too small to be classed as islands. Let's be real, Greece only suddenly began caring about those waters because the Turks found gas there. And even if Turkiye withdraws from Cyprus, Northern Cyrpus will still remain as its own state. South Cyprus couldn't take it without causing a war which will just make Turkiye invade again.
Turkey threatens Greece with war so is that too.
@@hellothere1656 That's not how the UN works, all Islands are seen as Islands, look at how China is Island hopping and Japan is pouring concrete on islands to keep them from going under, those are also valid islands, whilst being made out of 90% concrete.
The Greek Islands in the Aegean Sea are old and 100% Greek Claimed, allowing Greece to exert their economic exclusion zone from them. Just because Turkey illegally made boreholes to find gas, doesn't mean Turkey now gets to claim territory that isn't theirs to claim.
Imagine getting a worse version of hungary with some actual power, influence and relevance and a failing monetary system. Itd be a net Leech for EU funds
our corrupt leaders always look for a good way to steal more tax payer money, in many creative ways
What a roast
eyy our economy more bigger that many EU country, our currency bad because someones stealing money and about democracy, even Türkiye have own democrasy more better many EU, our country not do and hide things, EU so professional about hide their bad things.
@@selfcrash where Lira value? Where peace at the borders? Where functional democracy?
@@rainman1242 Turkey has a GDP of 0.8 times that of The Netherlands whilst having 4.7 times the population LOL.
Netherlands has a GDP of 1 trillion USD, whilst Turkey has 819 Billion USD.
Making The Netherlands the 17th most powerful economy, and the 10th best GDP per capita. Whilst having 0.2% of the worlds population and whilst being the 131th largest country in the world xD
I think NATO would collapse after Turkey leaves. NATO could not live without Turkey and Europe would be without protection. Europe needs Turkey.
aynen bak şu an çok ihtiyacı var. tam şu an
Amma atıyorsun be 😂
@@aristoskonstantinou1248 Yunanistan'a da zamanında aynısını yapmalıydık. Bence hiç izin vermemek lazım bunların NATO'ya girmesine, NATO'ya bizden çok asker veren yok.
Neyse artık bir dahaki sefere. Yunanistan kesin bir ara, ben bir çıkıp tekrar gireyim der. Hayatlarının hatası olur. Keşke bir çıksalar da bir daha almasak, Allah'ım inşallah!
As a Turk, what should Turkey do to join eu is actually simple. Develope human rights, improve economy and elect democratic people. So far none of these things are possible near future for Turkey.
Nope it’s simple 97% of turkey is in asia
@@adastra6223 i mean if turkeys joining means stronger eu, no politician will care. They did not think like you since they approved turkeys candidate. If you would ask my opinion, i dont support joining eu. Strong and good relations , free visa, customs union is enough. It is practically same thing actually, at least for people.
@@panzerkampfwagen6tiger2… rubbish, stay out of the EU - Turkey is a cancer that just causes problems - end of story !!
@@adastra6223 nope Cyprus is in Asia what about that :D
And them to get out of Cyprus!
4:38 That's Iran, not Syria
Yeah I thought Syria was looking very different
Bro 😂
I was looking for this comment.
they usually make great well-researched videos, but when they make mistakes they are really ridiculous ones like obvious mispronunciations or editing mistakes like this map. my guess is needs a better review process, smarter editors, and for the presenters to not only read articles but also watch videos about the topics they are going to be talking about
Very nice review of the Turkey-EU relations so far. However, at 4:37, the map highlights Iran, not Syria, which is at the bottom left of that image.
one of the best videos on the topic, provided much needed context. Thanks
Imagine Erdogan joining the EU. All of a sudden, Poland and Hungary would look like great democracies and their blackmailing would become unnoticeable in comparison to Turkey.
Hmm yes the west would know a lot about blackmail in their democracies wouldn't they? How is Assange doing btw?
@@itachi7285 tbh, they would actually, and for the exact same reason you stated 😂.
Poland IS a democratic nation.
This guy things the EU is the living standard of LIFE. You don't know anything about Turkey let alone their blackmailing. You have countries who helped US invade the middle easting killing millions BUT BlAcKMaIL?! UNACCEPTABLE
@@itachi7285 You are mentioning a problem the US has when we are talking about the EU. The extradition is being blocked by the UK for crying out loud.
4:37 That looks like Iran, not Syria tho 🤔
As a Turk, I know that even if we meet all the criteria, our country will never be admitted to the European Union.
While there are days when political conditions may bring some countries to support our membership, all these statements will remain insincere.
Personally, I believe that striving to fulfill the necessary conditions for EU membership and creating an agenda in this regard would bring significant benefits for our country rather than being accepted as a member. (Of course, as long as we strive without compromising our independence and national interests)
Therefore, I see the European Union not as a goal but as a means for our progress.
Greetings to all our European friends from Turkey👋
They don't want us. It is what it is. Who cares. We already get the economic&trade zones. Actually joining the EU would limit Turkey. We don't need to. It would have been nice if we joined in 2012-2013, but instead Germany kept making up new points to allow us in(Only Germany and Belgium were left denying, btw. Even Greece&Cyprus was supportive.) So yeah, who cares. Boo hoo.
Turkey detained a Portuguese person for 20 days just because he looked gay.
If someone promised you that he will allow middle eastern barbarians into EU, it's a lie.
@@hamlet557 1- This is an allegation.
2- According to the allegation, the perpetrators are a group of police officers, and it cannot be attributed to Turkey as a whole (Although the current Turkish government may have an anti-LGBT stance, I can confidently state that they are not radical enough to arrest "a tourist" solely based on this reason).
3- It is acceptable to argue that there may be policies that marginalize people based on their sexual orientation. However, attributing this solely to being from the Middle East and labeling it as barbaric is a racist fallacy.
In summary, while defending human rights based on an allegation, you have openly engaged in racism. As you also mentioned, I agree with the thesis that we will not be accepted into the European Union, and that all promises regarding this matter are lies. One reason for this is individuals like you who claim to live by EU values but fail to comprehend these values. When interests and values clash, Europe chooses its own interests, and this is quite rational.
As long as you view the world with a superiority complex and exhibit hypocrisy regarding your values, you will remain an institution that is not liked, criticized, but with which we must maintain our relations due to our material interests.
@@cagasrnkzlkayastudent7123
I just saw how turkish authorities destroyed store signs which had arabic letters.
If we did the same for all turkish stores in EU, you'd be screaming like hell, but now you pretend that Turks aren't just faschist barbarians. Trying to insult me using the generic "you racist" doesn't work with me, because I know the norms in your country and the fact that especially the so called "seculars" are often more hardcore nationalists than LePen and AfD combined.
Turks are ok when their sultan is detaining random people and they come up with more and more crazy excuses to defend him.
If you think that we forgot that your sultan tried to sue a german journalist for doing satire exactly as he does with every other EU politician, you are wrong! We remember.
You detain random people and imprison journalists, opposition politicians and even underaged kids in the middle east That's your values, that's your customs and you have the right to be backwards.
But I have the right to say my opinion on that.
why would you even want to join europe while 97% of your land in asia??
Guys, as an Erdogan opposition Turkish citizen for 28 years, we knew from the start EU won't let us be a member in EU.
For us, it was not about becoming a member or not, it was our own test to reach higher standarts.
We Turks respect and admire the standarts but we also know we won't be a member.
We know if we were full time member of the EU parlaiment we know we would be a major player in the politics.
We know if our country becomes a member, our citizens will flee like Romanians did.
Letting Turkey into the EU would be a mistake of epic and unparalleled proportions. It would quite literally spell the end of the EU.
Lets hope so!
Turkey in it's current form, yes. But if they met the standards that are required to be in the EU, it would not.
@@bigruapurart Turkey has shown that they are either incapable or unwilling to meet the required standards. It would take at least 20 to 50 years for them to fully change course and meet the standards.
yes, because turks will never feel themselves as europeans. if turkey join there would be no more UNION, it would turn back at european economic community
@@Red0543 what part of "Turkey in it's current form" was hard to understand?
TLDR starts at 0:02 and ends at 0:15.
The answer is a resounding NO.
Great video!
I'm Turkish and no Turkey would never be in EU
today I would even throw them out of nato, but never say never, I have to explain to my grandfather that today Germany and Japan fight on the side of the US as trusted allies with a working democracy...
@@marcdc6809I won’t rule it out either, but there is a lot of work to do.
@@marcdc6809 Yeah we ain't a real democratic nation but kicking us from NATO is wild bro, like it or not Turkey did a lot for NATO and the nation's military or geopolitical region is soo valuable to West
Thanks , and we don't want it NEVER EVER 😂
And it's a simple answer: 98% of Turkey is in Asia.
Fatih Altaylı a Turkish journalist today told a memory of his from 25 years ago with the head of Deutsche Bank appearently he said the following: Turkey will never get into EU becasue in order for you to enter EU you need to stop the authority of the turkish army on turkish politics but as soon as you stop that you will face another problem whenever army authority decreases turkish politics gets under the influence of religion in this case you won't even be able to dream entering due to rising islamism. I guess he was right
I don't see it happening. There is no country in EU that wants to give Turkey any power over anything that is going on in Europe. Turkey is not Western enough and not European enough.
a note: in 4:38 you named Iran in the map as syria mistakenly. maybe not important but is worth to notice. Thanks for the video.
Short answer: No
Long answer: Also no
Whenever I see Turkey talk about entering the EU I'm always wondering : Have they just forgotten about cryprus or just think that cryprus will magically open the door for them?
I guess if Greece had not sent forces into Cyprus to systematically drive Turkish Cypriots into the sea then Turkey would not have sent troops into Cyprus to defend the Turkish Cypriots.
@@akwamarsunzalThat's besides the point.
@@akwamarsunzal ok, thats in the past, but cyprus and greece are both in the EU and Turkey is not. Why should they allow Turkey to join?
@mr-andrewthere is a totally different government in the north last checked the Greek Cypriots in the south were coming to cheaper northern Cyprus to rent apartments
Cyprus issue could have been solved if Greek Cypriots were to say yes to Annan plan. The ones who want to unite the island were Turkish Cypriots but who were accepted to EU were Greek Cypriots to further complicate the Cyprus problem. The Western world and most of the Greek Cypriots are not sincere in their talks about Cyprus division. Everytime they say ahh we are occupied but when a solution is to be put to the table they are the ones who leave it and say no because they use the power of looking like vulnerable little brother at the end of the Mediterranean sea who need funds from the almighty EU
There is a small oversight at 4:38 , on the map the country marked as Syria is actually Iran, Syria would be in the bottom left corner
Great video. One quetion, you located the Turkish-Syrian incident (4:38) on the Turkish-Iranian border.
Something is pretty wrong about the 4:36 map: that country on the map is not Syria but Iran.
Unless our EU Politicians get shady, Turkey has the same possibility to join the EU as a flower to grow on the moon. Besides Erdogan (which is a lot to forget) there is a small problem regarding Turkey's occupation of Cyprus.
Ah yes because they aren't shady right now xD
@@yourealittlebitfat4344 They'd have to become even more shady, as shady as the nightest(I proclaim this to be a word) of nights.
@@yourealittlebitfat4344 They really are a lot less shady than you believe. For them to be shady, you would have the individual members be shady. Stop this childish fearmongering and actually look into how well made the EU is and just how hard it would be to corrupt.
@@teaser6089 hahahaha, I get nightest!
and it will need Greece's approval 🤣
A decade or two ago Turkish people indeed wanted to join EU and considered themselves closer to west than east, today thought they don't give a flying fuck about it. I don't know what's the Erdo's masterplan here but with Sweden's NATO approval even his own voters criticized him.
First of all, as a Turk living in Turkey, I would like to say the following. A Turkey where there is no freedom of the press, people with dissent are imprisoned and the government is politically Islamist can never enter the European Union.
why tf is this even really in discussion when the cyprus problem is still not resolved? they are an EU member and thus can veto the entry of any new member
Greece started the cyrpus problem, by killing and driving citizens to sea For no reason. Turkish troops came in to save their Innocent citizens.
Cyprus problem would've been solved in 2004 if Greek Cypriots voted yes to reunify. Turk Cypriots voted yes, Greek cypriots didnt. basically you could say Greek Cyprus is now causing more issues than the Turkish. i wont be able to tell much here so just check "2004 Cypriot Annan Plan referendum" in wikipedia
@@solaris1459Apparently they didn't see the deal as fair.
@@solaris1459 Doesn't matter. They can simply veto Turkey's membership. No questions asked.
They don't have to be right, they don't even need to make up a reason. They simply say "no" and it's over.
@@apgmk1970 Most of us actually doesn't even want to get in eu. We are not puppet of europe
Not as things stand now, but hey, Turkey can always make the right changes and join in the future. Just don't expect EU to change for Turkey =P
500 years and so little change. Why would they change now?
The EU absolutely has to change to accomodate Turkey. Their massive population is a problem as it would greatly alter the power balances in the bloc which means some nations will naturally oppose accession. Nowadays this is not even brought as an argument because Turkey doesn't even respect the basic standards of democracy and rule of law, but it's still a relevant one.
@@arisnotheles I have and I know, and I acknowledge his reforms. But at the same time there is the past: The Armenian Genocide (Hamidian massacres), the Greek Genocide (Pontic genocide, Smyrna Catastrophe), The Bulgarian one (Devshirme, Batak massacre, other). And the present - Cyprus, Daily invasion internationally recognized Greek water and air, Syria, The Kurdish, Libya and other. Just a few days ago they literally extroted US and EU and NATO, among others to get more weapons. So for me personally they lack in progress and good will.
Turkey it's a Muslim country okay they look burnt abandoned their values if that is what you mean by change or acceptan this LGTBQZY We know today for some country's in EU man and a man can get married and receive marriage certificate 😢😢😢😢 we Muslims don't want turkey joining the EU this country's the Western countries want nothing good for Muslims country's okay we know this very well
@@Qwerty32134313we ar Muslims an very proud of who we ar we Muslims will never change just to be in the EU........ It's the EU who hav to change for good go back to GOD
To paraphrase Herr Schäuble, the former minister for the interior later finances of Germany in July 2004: the day Mexico becomes a part of the US that day Turkey will join the EU.
The cause claimed as border dispute, meaning a country should have no border disputes to join EU.
Dude , EU let cyprus in while the half of the country is controlled by so called de facto state of northern cyprus .
What about that? what a contradiction right ?
… that’s because Turkey is doing all the WRONG ILLEGAL actions - the pirate based nation Turdkey has invaded the nation of Cyprus.
We already have hungary at home
Orban will more than likely be a bad memory by the end of the decade.
There is no way Greece and Cyprus are allowing Turkey to enter. Also Turkey doesn’t even recognize Cyprus which is an EU country
You forget that without Turkey's permision Cyprus could't be in the EU
@@alaneldira9578 Why on earth would Cyprus need Turkey's permission to join the EU? Imagine if Turkey was required to ask permission from Spain to join the Union of Turkic Countries.
@alaneldira9578 and hopefully one day they'll get kicked back out of Cyprus :)
invading countries is bad mmmkay
The approval of the guarantor countries in Cyprus is needed. Of course, if you say that there are two different countries in Cyprus😜
@alaneldira9578 are you really trying to brag that you couldn't even conquer Cyprus right now, even Russia would view that puppet as sad 🥲🥲
Only 3% of Turkey land is located in europe & 10% of its population lives in that area!
Europe is Europe. And Asia is Asia.
Turkey is *NOT* Europe and Turkish are *NOT* Europeans. I'm tired of repeating the same thing again and again.
- Only 3% of its territory is in Europe, the remaining 97% of its territory is in Asia (Asia Minor).
- As a result, only an insignificant 0.2% of the European territory is Turkish.
- Its capital (Ankara) is located in Asia, like most of its cities and population (only a part of Istanbul is in Europe).
- Their alphabet and language do not have a European origin.
- Its population does not have a European origin.
- They are mainly Muslims and, in fact, their main political party (and current president) is Islamic.
- Apart from their religion and all other mentioned things, their traditions and culture are not European.
- They do *NOT* have any link with/to Europe in any aspect, despite wanting to westernize.
- Historically they have always been an enemy of Europe.
Unlike Russia, which:
- 25% of its territory is in Europe.
- As a result, 40% of the current European territory is Russian (when the USSR it was even more).
- Its capital (Moscow), all main cities and most part of its population is located in Europe. In fact the European Russians are the ones who have always ruled the country.
- Their alphabet (Cyrillic) and language do have a European origin.
- Most of its population do have a European origin (slavic).
- They are mainly Christians, like the rest of Europe.
- Their traditions and culture are purely European.
- They have strong links with/to Europe as they *ARE* and have always been part of Europe.
- Historically they have always been Europe and Europeans. Eastern Europeans, yes, but Europeans at the end of the day.
Turkey, at best, could be considered a "transcontinental" country, but only with regards to its land, although you have to keep in mind that only 3% of its territory is part of Europe (0.2% of Europe is Turkish) and *NONE* of all the other aspects are European in any sense.
So, or it has to be considered 3% / 0.2% transcontinental at best, or, because in the end we do have to consider it one *OR* another, we must consider it, because it is, Asian. But *NEVER* European alone, neither geographically, nor culturally.
Turkey is Asia (Asia Minor). Period!
If we start with "open-mindedness", the idea of Europe would be completely diluted and we would end up incorporating other extra-European territories into the Union that, even if they have almost everything to do with us ethnically and culturally, they are *NOT* Europe (such as Canada, Chile, Argentina, Australia, New Zealand...) or, much worse still, that without being Europe either, even less do they have something in common with us, not only geographically, but also ethnically or culturally (such as Morocco, Tunisia or Turkey itself.)
What is Europe? A continent, a geographical space, which is also joined by other signs of identity.
Turkey is not even Europe geographically, which is *THE FIRST AND MOST IMPORTANT* of the premises. *BUT NEITHER IT IS IN EVERYTHING ELSE!*
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Europa es Europa. Y Asia es Asia.
Turquía *NO* es Europa y los turcos *NO* son europeos. Estoy cansado de repetir lo mismo una y otra vez.
- Solo el 3% de su territorio está en Europa, el 97% restante de su territorio está en Asia (Asia Menor).
- Como resultado, solo un insignificante 0,2% del territorio europeo es turco.
- Su capital (Ankara) se encuentra en Asia, como la mayoría de sus ciudades y población (solo una parte de Estambul está en Europa).
- Su alfabeto y lengua no tienen origen europeo.
- Su población no tiene origen europeo.
- Son principalmente musulmanes y, de hecho, su principal partido político y actual presidente son islamistas.
- Aparte de su religión y todas las demás cosas mencionadas, sus tradiciones y cultura no son europeas.
- No tienen ningún vínculo con / hacia Europa en ningún aspecto, a pesar de querer occidentalizarse.
- Históricamente siempre han sido enemigos de Europa.
A diferencia de Rusia, en la que:
- El 25% de su territorio está en Europa.
- Como resultado, el 40% del territorio europeo actual es ruso (cuando era la URSS, era aún mayor.)
- Su capital (Moscú), todas las principales ciudades y la mayor parte de su población se encuentran en Europa. De hecho, los rusos europeos son los que siempre han gobernado el país.
- Su alfabeto (cirílico) y su lengua tienen un origen europeo.
- La mayor parte de su población tiene un origen europeo (eslavo).
- Son principalmente cristianos, como el resto de Europa.
- Sus tradiciones y cultura son puramente europeas.
- Tienen fuertes vínculos con / hacia Europa, ya que son y siempre han sido parte de Europa.
- Históricamente siempre han sido europeos: geográfica, étnica y culturalmente. Europeos del Este, sí, pero europeos al fin y al cabo.
Turquía, en el mejor de los casos, podría considerarse un país "transcontinental", pero solo en lo que respecta a su territorio, aunque hay que tener en cuenta que solo el 3% de su territorio es parte de Europa (el 0,2% de Europa es turco) y en *NINGUNO* de todos los demás aspectos son europeos en ningún sentido.
Entonces, o tiene que ser considerada 3% / 0.2% transcontinental en el mejor de los casos, o, porque al final tenemos que considerarla solamente una u otra, debemos considerarla, porque lo es, asiática. Pero *NUNCA* solo europea, ni geográfica, ni étnica, ni culturalmente.
Turquía es asiática (Asia Menor). Punto.
Si comenzamos con "amplitudes de miras", se diluiría por completo la idea de Europa y terminaríamos por incorporar otros territorios extra-europeos a la Unión que, por más que tengan casi todo que ver con nosotros étnica y culturalmente, *NO* son Europa (como por ejemplo Canadá, Chile, Argentina, Australia, Nueva Zelanda...) o, mucho peor todavía, que sin ser tampoco Europa, menos aún tienen algo en común con nosotros, no ya solo geográfica, sino tampoco étnica ni culturalmente (como por ejemplo Marruecos, Túnez o la propia Turquía.)
¿Qué es Europa? Un continente, un espacio geográfico, al que, además, se le unen otras señas de identidad.
Turquía ni tan siquiera es Europa geográficamente, que es *LA PRIMERA Y MÁS IMPORTANTE* de las premisas. *¡PERO ES QUE TAMPOCO LO ES EN TODO LO DEMÁS!*
As an Indian I'm totally agree with every word of yours
Actually you can STOP to constantly repeat it. Because it is wrong. Turkey is (and always was) actually majorily in Europe.
That *the Bosporus strait is the border of Europe* is incorrect. For centuries the Bosporus strait was NOT considered the border of Europe.
Actually the natural borders of Europe go as follows:
- the ural mountains
- then Down the western side of the Caspian Sea
- across the Caucasus mountains towards the west until you reach the Black sea.
- from the Black sea (Turkish border) a straight line down towards the Mediterranean sea towards Cyprus.
Using the East Taurus Mountains in Turkey as the border to Asia.
- And from Cyprus across the Mediterranean Sea (including Malta) towards the strait of Gibraltar.
And this now properly includes Cyprus (which IS a EU member because everyone in Brussels does very well know that those are the correct borders of Europe and not the Bosporus strait.
Many older maps (that are centuries old) have it still drawn that way. Because that is the old and correct definition of Europe.
The Ural Mountains are basically considered everywhere as the natural border of Europe. And they are located at 60° Longitude.
So Turkey's eastern Border at just 40° longitude are very well within Europe. You can not say something at 60° longitude is Europe and something at 40° Longtitude much much closer to Berlin, London and Paris is NOT Europe.
Not talking about the fact that the Bosporus strait is at only ~27° Longitude while the Ural Mountains are at 60° ...
The definition was just changed towards the Bosporus strait because Constantinople (today Istanbul) was in the past an important city for Christianity.
And Rome wanted the borders of Europe to be changed because they didn't want Europe to be associated in any way with Islam. So rome enforced the chance on the definition for "Europe"
Like they did for the calender.
But Turkey IS actually a European country. Because It always was. And that's also how Mustafa Kemal Atatürk saw his country.
The religion has nothing to do with continents.
And the often used excuse
*"But the Eurasian tectonic Plate boundary runs through the Bosporus Strait!"* Doesn't hold firm either because that would mean Malta is now Africa and China could be part of Europe 😂😂
And this would be totally stupid.
The same goes with maps that are supposed to show all of Europe. They always only show a part of Turkey (the part west of the Bosporus Strait)
To give the impression that only that part of Turkey is in Europe.
And just like a coincidence Those maps usually also show parts of Russia.
But the Ural Mountains (which are agreed to be the border of Europe) are almost NEVER shown on those maps. And the reason is simple:
They are located so much further east, If you would design the map that they show the ural Mountains you would now have all Of Turkey being visible on that map.
And to avoid that, those maps conveniently leave out the ural Mountains, Paint Turkey in a different color or draw the line between Europe and Asia right through the Bosporus strait.
But yes, Turkey is in Europe.
That doesn't mean however that we should accept them into the EU right away.
Or accept them at all.
Just that they are located in the European continent.
(And neither the Jews nor the Christians will be satisfied with you until you follow their religion. Say, “Indeed, the guidance of God is guidance, even if you follow their desires after the knowledge that has come to you.” You have in God neither guardian nor helper), W Mehmet ll, W ottomans.
im turkish i dont even let turkey in
Sağol ya
Do the best you can. 🙏
This is understandable, maybe as a Turk you know better - you do not want to "import" the problems your parents have escaped from to where you are right now.
LOL
You are the first Turk I found in the comment section that isn't a Erdogan Propganda repeater!
I hope one day Turkey fulfills all the criteria and leaves Cyprus to join the EU.
To join the EU, Turkey would need to take tangible steps to align itself towards Europe and away from the Asian/Middle Eastern sphere. But it’s really unlikely that Erdogan will willingly let go of the influence and territory he has in that region (Cyprus, Syria, etc)
Turkey cannot align completely with western geopolitics turkey will always have a mix of both western and Eastern politics sheerly because of our geological position. You can't expect a country to be a beacon of west when it borders Asia and Europe at the same time. No one in eu has the problems turkey has.
@@mehmetsahsert3284 This is true, but if Turkey wants to join European structure then it should change some of the habits, it would not be the first time as Ataturk did this once at much greater extent.
I am saying this from Serbia's perspective which is in a similar position, officially politicians want to join the EU, however the mentality of people is against it so it would be very difficult as well.
In both cases, Turkey and Serbia need to remove dictators from power and to return from clerical nationalism to democracy, and then to give back power to institutions, before this is done neither of those two countries will progress but only regress to dark ages.
@@mehmetsahsert3284The best we can hope for is a bilateral treaty. Full membership is practically impossible.
@@mehmetsahsert3284Georgia
Why should he? Does Europe "take steps away" from where it has influence? What kind of stupid thinking is that? There are many reasons why Turkey should never be allowed into the EU but that is not one of them. We should be thankful Erdogan doesn't pull a Lukashenko on us with the migrants, after all it wasn't him who got us in this mess, it was the beloved Mutti Merkel and her idiotic open borders policy that did it.
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long answer: noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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4:36 That's not Syria, that's Iran. Correct it.
Turkey as the country is 90% is located in Asian continent . The country's capital city is in Asian side of the country.
I find it difficult to recognise his country as a European country. !? The recognition of Turkey to be a member of NATO DEFENCE ALLIANCE or to become member of European country us purely based on political interests of superpowers within the north Atlantic regions and not on any other logical grind !!!!???
Avrupa coğrafi olarak bir kıta değildir, araştır istersen😂
As a Turk, I dont think we can or will ever join EU, in fact like nearly all the others around me gave up on that dream looong ago. We dont care anymore.
some folks like me really want you to be in the EU! and that's coming from a central european. Yes, maybe I'm not i the majority but I have been in Turkey. I have far too many Turkish friends to just keep you at bay like that.
Good cause we don’t want you to join
@@kacperzimowski4626 nah we dont want to be European or change our culture to be a copy cat of you. We can still be friends i guess.
@@Chrysobubulle i guess your bvtt is still hurting about the history? Lol Im glad we are making you mad.
@@MojiMikato this ain't about you my man... whether you want it or not, EU talks will always continue. This is a political game played by both sides, as it benefits everybody. Both sides know it will never happen, but the benefits (such as Customs Union) are too good to break the relationship up. I think the logical step would be to get visa liberalisation and an updated Customs Union, and I personally think this will happen eventually. After that, we might join something like EFTA, but even that is reaching too far right now. Priority should be visa liberalisation for Turkish citizens.
As a European citizen. I say no to Turkey 🚫🇹🇷 to EU 🇪🇺🇪🇺🇪🇺 its kinda in Europe but culturally not European nor with beliefs & tradition & mentality. Sorry. A partner yes but a member state no.
Turkiye has played an imortant role in European history, and has actually been culturally closer to Europe than you might think. They are a muslim majority country, but have since Ataturk been more secular than many European states even are. I think they would've made a great addition, if they would've stayed on the course they were on before Erdogan went a bit crazy.
@@BilboBaggins236 Sure, then why is Turkey sponsoring and pushing the building of Mosques all around Europe? Didn't Turkey also look to be more Ottoman now then it did 50 years ago, almost all of the power lies within Erdogan.
Culturally closer to Europe is as funny as it sounds, what has Turkey had in terms of culture that is even close to European?
@@BilboBaggins236 they destoyed byzantine and took over everything xD nothing there was build by them
@@BilboBaggins236 Turkey is not a European country in any way shape or form. For that reason there's literally huge consensus across age, nationality and political beliefe on NOT allowing Turkey in.
Not to mention it is absolutely imposible to grasp even the idea that a relatively poor and majority muslim country would be the largest country in the Union with the largest voting power in the Europarliament (which is defined by population size). Turkey would have a bigger voting and deciding power over Germany, France, literally would turn it into the leader of the EU.
Impossible.
Oh also, Turkey is literally illegaly occupying half of Cyprus. Do you think they would ever let you guys in?
Give Canada and the US two square miles of European territory (not much less than Turkey has) and they'd be much better fits as EU members than Turkey.
Basically no. There's a lot of rules and checkpoints. Maybe he could start the process, but it has to clear some pretty big checkpoints, both social and economical
Not as long as their leader is here.
Let's hope not. The EU is already a mess and Turkey would only make it worse.
This is what happens if u believe u can destroy some country's an lives a beautiful life's in your country's this mess in the EU it's the beginning......... I 100% believe Turkey doesn't need the EU....
EU is already too big,
basically a Western Europe/Germano-Latin Union is perfect,
than includes some Catholic and Orthodox Slavics is barley ok,
but extend to Turkey? is it necessary? it is not NATO,
EU keeps importing low quality people.
They are doing it to themselves. But adding turkey would make things even worse.
Not when they are illegally occupying almost half of the land of an EU member state (Cyprus). Any attempt would be vetoed.
Turkey definitely won't allow to kill and abuse turkish people of Cyprus, that's why Cyprus crisis happened
north cyprus is not a part of turkey. it is indepedent. do your research
So... Killing citizens and driving them to the sea ILLEGALLY Just for living is Legal? This is how the European Mind works?
@@kanimou It's not a country, it's occupied by Turkey. 99% of the army there are Turks from Turkey. That's an occupation. On the other hand 99% of the army of the Republic of Cyprus are Cypriots from Cyprus and only 1% are from Greece.
even after they remove their illegal war crime and occupation of a part of Cyprus.. why would a country that does not align with European culture or values (Turkey) be admitted to the EU?
There’s a higher chance of my grandma remembering my name than Turkey joining the EU.
Turkey in the EU would have brought at least 50 years of peace and prosperity to Europe and the Middle East. It's very sad that both parties are remarkably incompetent to bring such project into life.
It would only bring war INSIDE the EU.
Turkey either has HUGE problem with terrorism to the point of having wars, or Turkey sees opposition as "terrorists" to silence them and excuse to invade neighbouring countries.
Either way, it doesn't belonge in EU.
I don’t agree that enlargement fatigue is delaying Turkey’s EU accession. That would have been correct prior to the Ukraine war.
The other reasons stated are correct however.
A good partnership with commercial agreement, Erasmus and visa exemption, sure. But Turkey inside the EU would be the end of the EU. It is already problematic with Hungary and sometimes Poland.
Turkey won't be accepted in EU because they have land borders with Syria Iraq and Iran
I don't think Erasmus would be a good idea, it will drain the treasuries of the EU quickly considering the enormous young population of Turkey.
@@Bolognabeef There is already Erasmus+ with Turkey. It goes both ways. European students go to Istanbul too. And it is not like a pure free movement area.
you are realistic,
sincs if even Turkey can bein EU, why not Israel, Armenia, Lebanon or Morocco?
if EU becomes too big, it will become an loose forum inside of a solid union,
@@Emilechen Because Turkey has territory in Europe and the other countries don't? Did you sleep in geography class?
if Turkey was smart, it would have been in the EU a long time ago and had EURO currency and thus avoided all sanctions and would not have inflation
at 4:39 on the map is shown Iran and not Siria as said.
Ever since I was given birth I knew very well that it is impossible for Turkey to join EU due to various factors (I am Turkish)
It's nothing personal. There is just too much that needs to be fixed for it to happen my friend. If Turkey seemed to try and fix this then it could become possible, but there isn't really that much evidence of that happening.
@@uqs57bjuwe all know that EU won’t accept Turkiye at any price. Actually we are not interested in that kind of thing. We were quite happy until that refugees invasion. The only thing that should Erdoğan do letting refugees to go EU. We should stop preventing them to go anywhere. And we will see that all problems will be solved.
@@uqs57bju My people are stupid so unless something extreme happens nothing will change :(
It won't happen simply because Cyprus and Greece have a veto,
So their veto is ok when it concerns Turkey joining, but when Turkey wants to use its veto right to keep Sweden out, it becomes an issue?
To be honest, I can't imagine any country will vote for the accession of 🦃Even Hungary will make an exception and vote with the rest.
@@emre05x Go cry. Turkeybird will never be an EU member and enjoy free travel and high wages. Go join your turkic union or something lol
@@emre05x Isl@mist bΣggαr stay away
That is just one reason. There are plenty more.
TLDR News drinking game: Drink every time "any time soon" is said in a video.
As a Turkish citizen, with Erdogan and his autocratic regime, I find it an impossibility under normal circumstances. However, if Russia accelerates their hostility towards the west, and the war escalates, Turkey is likely to play a critical role in the upcoming war in Europe. I don't think Europe wants to see Turkey taking sides with Russia. And as we all know, most politicians are spineless, including the EU politicians. So who knows. The future really is unpredictable.
Turkey is a completely different culture and religion than most of Europe, let alone the fact that they aren't really even apart of the European continent. They would be better off making a similar agreement with countries in the middle east, god knows they bloody need it. They should be trying to solve the shia/sunni conflict, or even the ethnic divide in their own region.
A good example of how different Turkey is to Europe is the recent debacle with Sweden and NATO, with the whole Quran burning stuff. They let religion interfere with politics and its only bound to make the EU even less efficient then it already is.
They act with religion the same way we Europeans did in 1600.
@@sharknado623 indeed because islam is a relatively new religion so its still got some “growing up” to do so to speak
@@JustAnotherAccount8 Exactly! 300 years ago Europe had the Age of Enlightenment, which tamed religion and led to the industrial era. That changed everything for the western world. But the islamic world never had that.
@@D19DMO128D I completely agree!
And this is even just one example why the EU won't and can't let join Turkey.
You really don't know anything about Turkey do you?
Not a chance. Cyprus will never let them in.
Cyprus? I garantee you that there's no EU country that would let them in.
A vast majority of EU citizens is against it. And for good reasons.
@@mori1bund I don't doubt it. I think they really stepped out of the plane without a parachute when they voted to leave. You really don't come back from that.
@@mori1bund the only way turkey is being let in is if turkey is colonised (like turkey colonised Cyprus) and we're merged in through that.
But EU would do that would they? 😉
@@the-based-jew6872 learn history the uk still has military bases in cyprus and they are not getting the blame? also greece try to make cyprus a puppet state before so i don't get your point here.
why the hell Turkey needs english puppet cyprus if they even got eu standards one day
Trying to join the UE partnership is not more than struggling change awful hashtags of Turkey. This is an impossibility if Turkey maintains that behaviour. Unfortunately, Turkey isn't safe anymore after refugees have migrated and i am not going to mention the inflation of Turkey. The welfare of turkish citizens has collapsed badly.
4:36 Just a mistake you've made: You said "Syria border dispute" but on the map you highlighted Iran.
Doesn't Turkey have to ratify the UNCLOS in order to join the EU? Additionally, Turkey has to explain why it still occupies part of another EU member state (Cyprus) until this day in order to join.
They have. There was an agreement between Greece and Turkey that the island would not be owned by either. This was true until a Pro-greek government overthrew the existing government in a coup which then started displacing and killing Turks. And in the name of liberation, Turkey invaded Cyprus to keep its population safe and maintain order in its own half. Turkey will never let go of Cyprus as it will never trust the greeks again.
@@prof5282 Ok, then. Turkey doesn't join EU this century.
Problem solved.
@prof5282 The Turkish invasion came into two phases. The coup ended right after the first phase. Attila II was unjustified just like the illegal occupation of Cyprus that lasts until today. Obviously nowadays there is no threat of another Pro-Greek coup taking place but still Turkey is in the island.
@prof5282 Anyway no matter your stance in that, Turkey has to leave Cyprus and ratify the UNCLOS in order to join the EU.
@@prof5282 Then why is it trying to join an entity with Greece in it?
Turkey needs to settle it's dispute with Cyprus first.
The dispute is actually with Greece, the ones who started hostilities in Cyprus in the first place.
I actually wondered how Cyprus managed to join the EU with border disputes.
@@akwamarsunzalnah cyprus was majority greek, so what was wrong with joining greece if the majority wants that
Thats a sacrifice we are willing to make
@@akwamarsunzal Not at all; Cypress is an EU member state and Turkey is currently occupying the northern part of it.
Short answer is, nope. Long answer is nooooooooooooooppppppppppppppppppppeeeeeee
Maybe a free trade deal but the EU doesn’t need turkey’s economic instability impacting the bloc. Also it doesn’t meet the democratic requirements. The EU have their hands full with the Hungarian government.
Poor u we Muslims don't need the EU economy too all we Muslims country's need to do its work together we have all what we need not like the EU who hav to bring everything they need to survive from outside..... I pray Turkey will never be the EU
hungary should be excluded from EU and NATO
What significance does Hungary even hold?
@@blizzard1198 As the eu is a democratic organization every memeber state has the same influence when it comes to voting on issues like common foreign policies, fiscal policies or also economic aid to certain nations. Hungary under Orban has proved itself of being an authoritarian and questionable democracy that to this day has been a thorn in the eu side as to deal with russia...as a matter of facts hungary was one of the few nations to declare themselves "neutral" and nit allow nato aid to go theough hungary to reach ukraine.
@@ruskygelovich5469 i think you should know more about EU before you speak.first of all for turkey to join ALL member have to agree not the majority.secondly turkey is desperate to join in order to get the funding from EU to try to improve her crappy economy.without joining turkey has no claim on those funds.third you already saw that greece and france blocked the arm deal with europe that turkey wanted so desperately.
Gladly, Greece and Cyprus would 100% veto turkey. Never the EU privileges to a non-european country.
Turkey is a European Country. Did you skip Geography lessons?
@@TheIceCream1😂😂
@@TheIceCream1 Turkey Is *not* european
@@TheIceCream1where did you have your geography lessons? Turkey?
@@nintendokings 10% of Turkey may be described as "European". Nothing east of Constantinope though. :P
Good summary, but the map is wrong, in that Iran is marked as Syria. Around 4:30 min mark.
4:37 that is Iran mate
6:00 not just France, at least under current governments, both France and Germany think that the EU needs to be reformed away from unanimity voting to qualified majority voting for all situations before they'll let anyone else in.
Which is what the EU has been going towards for awhile now and for good reasons.
EU is always too big, at the beginning, it was just a Western Europe German-Latino Union, so it worked very well,
now EU has many new Eastern Slavic members, EU needs time to fully integrate them,
Turkey is a regional power and the co-leader of Turko-Iranic world, its role in EU is weird,
@@codmobile673 "40-60 years" is way too much. Montenegro could be admitted by the end of this decade, if unanimity rules are scrapped and no one blocks them. 2030s could easily have Ukraine, Albania, North Macedonia joining, again depending on internal EU issues at will for enlargement.
No way. They already wish Hungry would be out. There’s no way in hell they let another autocratic country in.
*and poland
Nice Türkiye- Syria map u have there at 4:38
As European citizen I hope they don’t , they are not European and they do not share our culture
İnsan yemiyoruz :D
not to mention all the refugees that would flood the schengen zone
They are more European than you think.
But I would also say, first the autocratic government of erdogan must change.
Forget not that they intermixture with Greeks and others for like thousands years, and therefore if Ukraine can join EU, why not Turkey
@@ArdaM373afraid the criteria for joining are slightly more stringent 😎
You wanna say that for example Finland, Romania, Portugal share same culture?🤣
bro you named iran as syria on your graphics 4:37
Greece definitely does not have a border dispute with Turkey *over Cyprus*. The Republic of Cyprus, backed by Greece, France, the EU and international law does have a border dispute with Turkey under the form of military occupation of the unrecognised TRNC. The video frames it rather weirdly.
Also, in 2005 a major factor for the freezing of Turkey’s accession was the occupation of Northern Cyprus by Turkish troops as the Republic of Cyprus accessed the EU in 2004 and the Annan Plan to reunify the island had failed a month earlier. So according to the immediately following EU Council the whole island of Cyprus had accessed the EU as the legal territory of the Republic of Cyprus (not counting the Sovereign Base Areas) and Turkey was (and still is to this day) occupying with its army sovereign Cypriot - and therefor EU - territory. It’s in big parts what froze the accession process ad vitam eternam. And that’s just regarding the EU’s process. Because the Republic of Cyprus also has veto (like every member state) on any accession.
The Cyprus issue was clearly understated in this video. Especially because in no way can Turkey’s accession be seriously considered while it props up the nationalists in the TRNC and even pushed for closer integration of Northern Cyprus into Turkey while crashing the peace negotiations and doubling down on reopening Varosha against international law and previous ECHR decisions.
Cyprus is Turkish. This wouldn't have happened if the Greeks had treated the Turks like humans. Do you know what the Greeks did to the Turks or are you the classic two-faced western troll? Long live the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus!
Wtf there is a huge mistake on the map which actually shows Turkiye-Iran border.
We're closer to colonizing Mars than Turkey is to becoming an EU member.
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After Turkey Afghanistan and Pakistan will be next in the queue to join EU ! 🤣🤣🥶🥶🤯🤯
It’s too big, it has a bigger population than Germany so it would get too much political power for a newcomer, imagine the EU but with Turkey taking Germany’s place as the leader, it wouldn’t last a decade
Exactly, a relatively poor and majority muslim country as the practical leader of the EU? The union would collapse in less than a decade.
turkey's population is smaller than germany
@@iamlegq What's religion got to do with this? Stop inciting fear for no reason. Y'all hate Turkey so much but rely on them at the same time. Y'all don't realise how important Turkey is in NATO and the benefits they bring. You see Turkey as undemocratic but you want their protection.
Good power would be more balanced
@@prof5282 NATO is not the same as EU. They don't bring the same benefits to EU as they have brought to NATO, but quite the opposite. Also Turkey does not meet the conditions it needs to even be considered into EU.
I feel this is the 5th time this week TLDR has made the exact same video about the exact same topic 😂
Its more of an answer that most of the e.u doesnt want turkey as a member period.
Not anytime soon. A lot of things need to change in Turkey and that takes a lot of time. And the fact that Erdogan won last elections and he's going to be around at least until 2028 doesn't speed up things at all
"A lot of things need to change in Turkey" you mean they need to switch from Islam to Christianity I guess 🤣
@@ataytaygaraev4298anything other than Islam should be fine. the country itself doesn’t have a religion but around half of the population aren’t muslims. for those who’d ask me what’s wrong with Islam, you can see the state of Islamic countries yourself and know that it’s a religion of hate and ignorance and will destroy everything nice. Turkey’s religion statistics always show 99% Islam since they basically assign it on birth by default and people don’t bother changing it.
@@ataytaygaraev4298 Ok, you don't want to join EU.
problem solved
Turkey is not a European country, most people looking at a paper map think the illusion of proximity makes them "European", it's absolutely false... Turks are not European, not even in their culture. so regardless of what needs to be changed, they do not belong in the EU. and anyway: you can not make a shark turn into a fish, as a matter fact.
it's really pissing a lot of citizens of EU bloc members off, that those corrupt shit bags in the EU don't even care for what the actual citizens of the bloc want, when they talk about their decisions. those are the citizens who at the end finance this entire shit show and the fat salaries of those useless EU officials
@@hamlet557 For Europeans like you Islam is a problem I guess
Yeah.. Just no way. I mean closer relations are definitely something that would be really good. But EU has already problem child. But definitely one. We don't need problem adult that can cause a lot more damage.
Nobody knows what happens in future, but as is, it just isn't possible. I do think closer relations could be pretty good, but Schengen and membership are something that is just ridiculous to even think about at the moment. EU is probably going to be more careful anyways due to few problematic cases we have seen.
Friendly heads-up: what's marked as "Syria" on the map at ~4:36 is in fact Iran.
No. Lived in Greece 74 to 84 & from peasant to the highest Elite no Greek will allow Turkey into the EU. Greece has since been joined by other of similar mind with many EU countries from before also sworn to the same view. So, no, absolutely no chance.
Turkey has actually 97 million turks (15 million turks in Europe already)
No it doesnt, the population is 84 million, and that includes Kurds, Circassians, and other ethnic minorities
@@t.c.4321 and 10 million refugees :)
15 million too many...
Don’t have to watch this video, because the answer is NO. 😂
They first have to leave Cyprus.
As a Turkish guy, let me tell you, folks in this place just don't seem to give a hoot about joining the European Union. Our president (ugh, not my cup of tea) was messing around with Sweden, playing this NATO game, but deep down, we all knew he'd end up letting Sweden into NATO. It was like he just wanted to have a little fun or something. So, why are you all taking it so seriously, huh? >D
If it does, all the other members will leave.
"probably no" is too soft, the answer is "100% no". That said, it doesn't mean Turkey can't, maybe, theoretically, get a sort of Switzerland or Norway relationship with the EU where it's tightly integrated (although even there, I highly doubt Turkey will ever enter Schengen) but still outside the EU.
Not even Switzerland will get a new Switzerland deal, as has been made clear when the UK came up with the same fantasy.
As for "Norway", you refer to Efta, and what goes for the UK will probably go for Turkey as well: current members will not want a large, disturbing nation in their club upsetting the balance.
never more otto impair .
One small detail you said Syria but showed Iran at 4:39
Around 2010 I met a European doing a PhD on the Turkish accession process, with very good contacts in the Turkish Government, EU Embassies in Ankara and Brussels. He said everyone said the same thing, phase 1 was alignment of economic rules and regulations that would help make the Customs Union work and reduce the friction of trade and investment between the EU and Turkey for everyone's benefit. Phase II was the wider legal and political alignment with EU standards which everyone expected would be a long hard process for the distant future. That's fundamentally different to Erdogan's constant and very successful narrative of "we've done everything and we're only being kept out because EU is anti-muslim". Meanwhile 1995-2010 was the high period in the west of "Once you embrace free markets and democracy, forever will it dominate your destiny" - push countries to reform and they'd turn into perfect liberal Western democracies. Some countries were arguably let in too early and once they're in there's no leverage, and now the EU has constant headaches with Rule of Law in Poland and Hungary. No country, especially one as big as Turkey, is getting in until it has ticked every box.
Turkey is doing well without EU, I don't get this urge to join.
@@brieflyPost Turkey is extremely poor if you compare them to EU countries. Small countries in the EU even give Turkey financial aid. If they were doing well they would not have leeched €3.34 billion since 2012 from the EU.
@@NisseCrusader I think he means geopolitically, not humanity-wise, like, Turkey as an entity, is doing good. The people though, as a Turk, I would not say so.
@@NisseCrusader bruh 3 bil for immigrants policing, nothing is free you know.
poor in EU look at this countries GDP Per capita.
Romania ? Greece ? Latvia? Bulgaria ?
Turkey is a G20 Country ffs
@@brieflyPost Funny how you mention GDP per capita, all of those countries have higher GDP per capita than Turkey.
Turkey GDP per capita = 9 661 USD
Bulgaria = 12 221 USD
Latvia = 21 148 USD
Romania = 14 858 USD
Greece = 20 192 USD
Let me put it this way: Ukraine will join NATO and the EU faster than Turkiye the EU.
Absolutely!!! Doublestandards!!!
@@abdullahimahamudbile No double standards. Ukraine will meet the demands quicker than Turkiye. As simple as that.
Ukrainians are Europeans and have similar values to the rest of Europe. We have a good number of them in my country and they are hard working, well behaved and nice people. Turks are Islamist and very likely to just ask for money, money, money... and not bother to even try to find a job.
@@abdullahimahamudbile Ukrainians are Europeans! And behave like most of us. And are well integrated in Europe, have European friends...
Please don't be hypocritical . You're talking about a list that wants Turkiye to ban even some of the Turkish dishes. What is the purpose of this? Do you know what this means? It means that there are a lot of nonsense rules created to prevent Turkiye from joining the European Union.
Couldn´t even happen or better said, Germany and France wouldn´t allow it, because in the EU : The number of MEPs per country depends on the population of each country.
So turkey would have the largest population and by that the most MEPs, so they would have too much power..
And germany is extremly underrepressented also!
@@HedgehogZonewhy would nazi’s be represented in the eu??
Just imagine all these conservative Muslim meps dealing with german green peace hippies what a mess.
@@user-vb6df4sd8d Because Germans aren't nazis. They are one of the most respectful nations of EU.