NB: to get the best approximation of white noise when normalizing the recording of 'silence' the Octatrack should be set to 24-bit (in this video I have the OT set to 24-bit)
credit to Merv for that one - he brought it to my attention in my thread for this video on Elektronauts - www.elektronauts.com/t/octatrack-synthesis-filter-ping-percussion-video/86508/32
Thank you so much for sharing these techniques with the octatrack community! I found the resampling very inspiring, the combination of the continually running record trig on a different scale length and the shaping of the resampled sound is nice, I'll be sure to give that a try!
thank you! super tough to film the Octatrack screen properly and I'm always experimenting with lighting, camera settings, and processing - sometimes it works out better than other times :D
Thank you, thank you, thank you, for taking the time to show these techniques. Each new video kick starts inspiration for an already amazing piece of kit. Your mastery shows and we all truly appreciate it.
thank you! just another student here! I try to focus on what I think is interesting and important for the ways I like to use it - so many aspects and angles to the OT I'm not sure it is possible to truly master in a holistic sense
thank you! Part of the reason there's a focus on the use of noise is that unless the waveform is very rich in harmonics it's generally not very good for exciting the filter for 'true' pings - I wouldn't really characterize most of these sounds in this video as 'true' pings. I'd categorize a 'true' ping on the Octatrack as utilizing 0 release time and the absolute shortest possible envelope hold time - for a 'true' filter ping any sustained tone should be coming from the filter resonance itself being temporarily excited and then petering out (the 808 bassdrum circuit and the damped sine it produces is actually a pinged filter as far as I understand). I was actually originally planning to show some percussion synthesis starting from single cycle waveforms but it simply didn't fit in the scope of this video - which is actually derived from a tiny portion of the Comb Filter Synthesis video that didn't fit in the scope of that video :)
max marco yeah I specifically meant harmonic rich waveform, some can change the timbre of the ping to a degree but may not be as strong as a more harmonically rich ping. Gotta check out the comb filter video!
with a re-envisioning of the architecture (would probably take good bit more CPU cycles) the Octatrack could be indistinguishable from a modular synthesizer - it's already extremely close, first thing I would want is more flexibility of routing signals, both audio and modulation
Love it! I have an A4 at the moment primarily used for fucky drum synthesis but this might have sold me on the OTs potential. Fuller sample potential is fun and all but I love seeing what you can do with the sound design tools alone.
Your vids make it clear to me why people like watching Twitch streamers. Again, great content. Simply produced with high quality. I want you to succeed on this platform and make more of these as I can't get enough well-narrated nerdy Elektron wankery!
hahahah! thanks a lot! unfortunately although it's basically what was going through my head at the time my narration is recorded afterwards, but that allows for adding in extra useful bits and filling some of the dead air - and I'd be going awful slow on the OT if I had to talk into a mic at the same time (which I did do for some very early videos) - would take me a while to get up to speed with that approach! :D
thank you! I always want a bit more capability and features on Octatrack, but at the same time the fact there are fairly tight limitations in a variety of respects has encouraged me to use it in ways I would generally not have considered otherwise - and it'd be very easy to undesirably bloat the design - it's teetering on the edge as-is! :D
yay that's raight, same with machinedrum. i was originally limited to the way to program other drum machines. at the end, you can do so much with the few parameters... across the tracks. but the md has lot of outs =). perfect for my two-hand-music ehmmm noise, hehe
each of the different FX and features bring such variety it's almost as much about what you don't use - I'm finding it very useful to periodically abandon some of my go-to features and FX approaches to encourage discovering and utilizing other aspects more deeply
max marco thanks! but I mean even before assigning Flex machine. The first step where you record while on Static machine and then normalizing the noise/recording. I must be missing some small detail there...
when you are in the recording setup menu you can use function+edit to go to the recording setup edit menu, and go to the recording from there (which I think i do/mention in this video, don't remember exactly) also when you are in the recording setup menu the track button+edit shortcut will take you to the recording buffer for that track and not the sample slot assigned to that track's machine
hi. sorry I'm actually generating the noise. Because my waveform amplitude was way louder I thought there was no sound in there...Thanks again for all your videos!!
quick question: do you have Octatrack set to 16-bit or 24-bit? I found out after this video from a viewer that normalizing 'silence' to create noise this way works much better on 24-bit, the 'noise' waveform created with 16-bit is kind of messed up, presumably due to the lower dynamic resolution of 16-bit - this video was made with the Octatrack set to 24-bit and it didn't occur to me at the time to try with 16-bit - I usually have OT set to 24-bit
you should put some reverb and effects to your voice so everything kind of blends together... i'm working while listening to your stuff and that would be dope
Maybe you have seen this video on microsound? th-cam.com/video/qQUrSh9wzs0/w-d-xo.html I was wondering what is possible with these techniques on the OT?
Octatrack is pretty primitive/limited when it comes to 'true granular' - in a sense the most grains you can have would be eight, and that uses up all the tracks. However many of the techniques shown in the makenoise video (only skimmed it) seem like they could be emulated or approximated - the Octatrack is very capable at what I'd refer to as 'psuedo-granular'
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NB: to get the best approximation of white noise when normalizing the recording of 'silence' the Octatrack should be set to 24-bit (in this video I have the OT set to 24-bit)
Yes! mine was 16bit and I was getting this flat waveform, now in 24b it looks better ;)
credit to Merv for that one - he brought it to my attention in my thread for this video on Elektronauts - www.elektronauts.com/t/octatrack-synthesis-filter-ping-percussion-video/86508/32
this is my favorite octatrack video on the internet. please make more elektron content soon, i'll join your patreon or whatever
You're like an aesthetic surgeon under a cold machine
thank you, love it! that'd be a great track/album title or lyric... I might end up stealing it :D
Man, I knew this thing was powerful, but this is crazy impressive!
thank you! Octatrack design often allows for a lot of classic techniques to be implemented in interesting ways
Thank you so much for sharing these techniques with the octatrack community! I found the resampling very inspiring, the combination of the continually running record trig on a different scale length and the shaping of the resampled sound is nice, I'll be sure to give that a try!
my pleasure, thanks for checking my stuff out! live re-sampling is definitely an area where Octatrack was made to shine!
Extremely inspiring. Thanks for making these!
This is an excellent demo! Thanks
Man, your videos are always awesome! Sometimes I had similar ideas as yours but you always push them so much farther. Thanks for sharing!
thanks dude!! generally all my videos have an inordinate amount of experimentation time behind them 👍👍👍
I am not surprised :)
I love how you filmed and edited the OT screen with the overwashed contrast! Even better than in the previous videos! :)
thank you! super tough to film the Octatrack screen properly and I'm always experimenting with lighting, camera settings, and processing - sometimes it works out better than other times :D
Very cool, this technique makes unique and interesting sounds.
thank you! somewhat classic approaches in a many ways, but with an Octatrack spin
Thank you, thank you, thank you, for taking the time to show these techniques. Each new video kick starts inspiration for an already amazing piece of kit. Your mastery shows and we all truly appreciate it.
thank you! just another student here! I try to focus on what I think is interesting and important for the ways I like to use it - so many aspects and angles to the OT I'm not sure it is possible to truly master in a holistic sense
awesome information about this machine, helping me a lot to get through it for my live set, thanks
Nice one, really. I’ve been working with the OT for years, but there is still stuff to learn I see!
thank you! Octatrack is definitely the machine that keeps giving 👍👍👍
MARAVILLOSO!
Sounds great, love doing this on the digitakt. I like the white noise technique, I usually use single cycle waveforms to ping the digi filters.
thank you! Part of the reason there's a focus on the use of noise is that unless the waveform is very rich in harmonics it's generally not very good for exciting the filter for 'true' pings - I wouldn't really characterize most of these sounds in this video as 'true' pings. I'd categorize a 'true' ping on the Octatrack as utilizing 0 release time and the absolute shortest possible envelope hold time - for a 'true' filter ping any sustained tone should be coming from the filter resonance itself being temporarily excited and then petering out (the 808 bassdrum circuit and the damped sine it produces is actually a pinged filter as far as I understand). I was actually originally planning to show some percussion synthesis starting from single cycle waveforms but it simply didn't fit in the scope of this video - which is actually derived from a tiny portion of the Comb Filter Synthesis video that didn't fit in the scope of that video :)
max marco yeah I specifically meant harmonic rich waveform, some can change the timbre of the ping to a degree but may not be as strong as a more harmonically rich ping. Gotta check out the comb filter video!
I had no idea. Instant drum synth :)
with a re-envisioning of the architecture (would probably take good bit more CPU cycles) the Octatrack could be indistinguishable from a modular synthesizer - it's already extremely close, first thing I would want is more flexibility of routing signals, both audio and modulation
Love it!
I have an A4 at the moment primarily used for fucky drum synthesis but this might have sold me on the OTs potential.
Fuller sample potential is fun and all but I love seeing what you can do with the sound design tools alone.
thanks! A4 and Digitone actually seem more appealing to me as drum machines rather than for typical synth sounds
Love these tutorials.
thank you!
This is wicked ! Amazing food for thoughts
thank you! just tip of the iceberg stuff here as usual :D :D :D
Great stuff as usual!
thanks a lot!!
dope
24:01 - WOw!
Your vids make it clear to me why people like watching Twitch streamers. Again, great content. Simply produced with high quality. I want you to succeed on this platform and make more of these as I can't get enough well-narrated nerdy Elektron wankery!
hahahah! thanks a lot! unfortunately although it's basically what was going through my head at the time my narration is recorded afterwards, but that allows for adding in extra useful bits and filling some of the dead air - and I'd be going awful slow on the OT if I had to talk into a mic at the same time (which I did do for some very early videos) - would take me a while to get up to speed with that approach! :D
fantastic - thanx alot. ot is such a naice piece. too sad that it has just 4 outs.
thank you! I always want a bit more capability and features on Octatrack, but at the same time the fact there are fairly tight limitations in a variety of respects has encouraged me to use it in ways I would generally not have considered otherwise - and it'd be very easy to undesirably bloat the design - it's teetering on the edge as-is! :D
yay that's raight, same with machinedrum. i was originally limited to the way to program other drum machines. at the end, you can do so much with the few parameters... across the tracks. but the md has lot of outs =). perfect for my two-hand-music ehmmm noise, hehe
This is approximately the first thing I did when I got mine. How can can I make this machine sound like 'itself'?
each of the different FX and features bring such variety it's almost as much about what you don't use - I'm finding it very useful to periodically abandon some of my go-to features and FX approaches to encourage discovering and utilizing other aspects more deeply
genius!
hi, I followed every step but I can't get it to work. After recording I press T1>edit and it says empty sample slot.
hihi! getting that screen means you have not assigned the flex machine on track 1 to reference recording buffer 1
max marco thanks! but I mean even before assigning Flex machine. The first step where you record while on Static machine and then normalizing the noise/recording. I must be missing some small detail there...
when you are in the recording setup menu you can use function+edit to go to the recording setup edit menu, and go to the recording from there (which I think i do/mention in this video, don't remember exactly) also when you are in the recording setup menu the track button+edit shortcut will take you to the recording buffer for that track and not the sample slot assigned to that track's machine
hi. sorry I'm actually generating the noise. Because my waveform amplitude was way louder I thought there was no sound in there...Thanks again for all your videos!!
quick question: do you have Octatrack set to 16-bit or 24-bit? I found out after this video from a viewer that normalizing 'silence' to create noise this way works much better on 24-bit, the 'noise' waveform created with 16-bit is kind of messed up, presumably due to the lower dynamic resolution of 16-bit - this video was made with the Octatrack set to 24-bit and it didn't occur to me at the time to try with 16-bit - I usually have OT set to 24-bit
26:44 woah
sick :]
thanks man!!
you should put some reverb and effects to your voice so everything kind of blends together... i'm working while listening to your stuff and that would be dope
Gold hands
ahahaha! thank you :) when reviewing my footage I mostly notice all the wrong button presses I make :D
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moved around a lot as a kid, but I'm basically from the midwest
Maybe you have seen this video on microsound?
th-cam.com/video/qQUrSh9wzs0/w-d-xo.html
I was wondering what is possible with these techniques on the OT?
Octatrack is pretty primitive/limited when it comes to 'true granular' - in a sense the most grains you can have would be eight, and that uses up all the tracks. However many of the techniques shown in the makenoise video (only skimmed it) seem like they could be emulated or approximated - the Octatrack is very capable at what I'd refer to as 'psuedo-granular'
@@maxmarco Thanks for taking a look