The New Testament exists to accuse followers of the Old Testament of BEING anti-secular EXTREMISTS (who were called Hebrews, back in my day). Islam means that the accusation is even more justified, according to the same axiomatic foundation of self-evident truths [being "stacked" atop one another]. These Palestinians have bad luck because they have allowed themselves to become too close to extremist Hebrew radicals. Should we forgive them? Probably not. P.S.: If you don't understand this, you've clearly never tried to cooperate with law enforcement. And by the way, yes, everyone makes fun of China for not being real leftists and being to vulnerable to the Japanese "politics" of each time period (which are "centrist" in that the Japanese don't want to fight against the northern South Asians who created the Hindu/Buddhist texts, but China can justify fighting them. This is similar to the reluctance of many Christians to fight the members of Judaism who are responsible for the spread of extremism). Yes, the politics were "nuts" in the Old World's West, but there was a period when people in the East went to Buddhist boarding schools and THAT is a unique moment in history which we might not be able to claim that we share with them, in case you have any genes from the Old World. By the way, there are many idol-sculpting companies and it's really no big deal at all to make new ones, and the way that ancient idols get appraised and put in museums is pure nonsense, and I'm telling you this as a friendly gesture so the New World doesn't get fooled into paying for that stuff, or thinking it's valuable or SUPER controversial. It is indeed however, a friendly gesture, which they DO appreciate, if these idols are ever returned to them).
Its obvious if God is our heavenly Father,that he would place that infantile desire within us to last throughout life and so we can desire to stay in contact with Him. But for those many people who reject this need for a Father and laws,this is just as prevalent when they dont accept Him . Our deep true nature we must allow to be is to be a child who should follow the ways of a good father or mother too. Then so Freud only wanted to despiritualize everything he interpreted about the interactions of the mind! He wanted to materialize everything as random human instincts without God involved. Freud was only half right or maybe not even half right.What he vowed for with Nietchze and Marx was to create a rebellion against the need for having this heavenly Father. They were dangerous and wanted us freedom to give into doing the depravities of human mistakes.
@@Elvengem Religion is proven correct during instants of time by specific individuals, while reflexes (and common sense) are also proven to have similar congruity. The reflexes are referred to as "earthly". The other stuff is referred to as "supernatural". However, the supernatural "world" merely exists in order to provide a "background" on which the "earthly" world is revealed, during investigations. Christianity seems to be "edgy" by nature. It seems as if it's "A False Flag Operation". In South Asia, these things are different
I like how the definition of “cope” has changed to anything you’re doing while also simultaneously not being a millionaire. Anybody who doesn’t have literally everything they want is now “coping”. 🙄
Its not bad that the meanings of words are changing but that there now is a word that means what the new coping means. I guess for now its here to stay, but things are always changing.
@@krishnashukla9154 Exactly. If we examine the claim objectively, instead of accepting at face value as the insult it's intended to be, it seems reasonable that we're all coping all the time, not just most of us most of the time. We are the animal that knows it must die. It explains so much about us. We all cope, it's the means by which we cope that varies between individuals. Christians and other religious people are indeed coping, so are philosophers and psychologists who undermine religion, so are youtube commentors who point this out.
As a non-religious European its funny to listen to this, after having discovered that the supermajority of Freuds following (inner circle) was full of jewish people. It seems that he should have pointed his analysis lens to his own religion. Or maybe criticising and demoralising christians was the intention all along? Btw, anybody has read the babylonian talmud? Very interesting (set of ) books, even more interesting than the Bible or Kuran.
The New Testament exists to accuse followers of the Old Testament of BEING anti-secular EXTREMISTS (who were called Hebrews, back in my day). Islam means that the accusation is even more justified, according to the same axiomatic foundation of self-evident truths [being "stacked" atop one another]. These Palestinians have bad luck because they have allowed themselves to become too close to extremist Hebrew radicals. Should we forgive them? Probably not. P.S.: If you don't understand this, you've clearly never tried to cooperate with law enforcement. And by the way, yes, everyone makes fun of China for not being real leftists and being to vulnerable to the Japanese "politics" of each time period (which are "centrist" in that the Japanese don't want to fight against the northern South Asians who created the Hindu/Buddhist texts, but China can justify fighting them. This is similar to the reluctance of many Christians to fight the members of Judaism who are responsible for the spread of extremism). Yes, the politics were "nuts" in the Old World's West, but there was a period when people in the East went to Buddhist boarding schools and THAT is a unique moment in history which we might not be able to claim that we share with them, in case you have any genes from the Old World. By the way, there are many idol-sculpting companies and it's really no big deal at all to make new ones, and the way that ancient idols get appraised and put in museums is pure nonsense, and I'm telling you this as a friendly gesture so the New World doesn't get fooled into paying for that stuff, or thinking it's valuable or SUPER controversial. It is indeed however, a friendly gesture, which they DO appreciate, if these idols are ever returned to them).
You have not read the Babylonian Talmud, and the vast majority of people haven’t. If you claim to have completed Daf Yomi and you’re not an ultra Orthodox Jew then you’re simply a liar.
Just wanted to write a thought I had just from the first two minutes. Coping really is, a least to me, a function of the self. Our mind must find ways to cope with existence. The opening of Shirley Jackson's Haunting of Hill House starts with the striking line: "no live organism can continue for long to exist sanely under conditions of absolute reality" I think as human beings we must limit our reality in order to function. I believe this is why religion, advertisements, secular ideologies, gender roles and so on are so appealing to us. When asked "how do we cope with the suffering around the world" we are often told to focus on things we can control, to limit our view. To create our own cages to comfort us from the the universal cage of existence.
Yeah I agree with you. In the moment we realize reality is not as it is fully to our perception, then we can agree that our reality is a human condition. Religion is included in that because of the universality of the spiritual tendency we have. And at the same time it does not mean it is not real. Psychological experiences and phenomena are no less real because they are not tangible. Otherwise I would have to say that the fact that I cry watching Cars 1 is nothing more than a mere illusion.
This makes perfect sense in fact. It is literally impossible for us to understand all of reality, as we need to have the capacity for an insane magnitude of knowledge. Not only that, all of the mind-boggling things and scary things in our universe- such as war, abuse, and the concept of infinity, take a toll on the mechanisms within our mind and bodies.
Every survivor is like a refugee, but not every refugee is like a survivor. We need you in this religion till your last breath. Are you going to tell me, "No", Soldier? @@NotMe-et9bx
Why are you begging for a European-style Dark Ages? I guess we can't EXPECT you to REMEMBER the reason why Islamists are called "terrorists", but I'll tell you right now that the Dark Ages never really ended, and that Medieval European art will stop looking Foreign to you guys unless you take life seriously. @@NotMe-et9bx
What you say that you agree to SOUNDS like a great idea, but actually bringing that into reality would be terrible. For example, imagine if you were a top-ranking cop or soldier and you needed to give commands to either civilians/bystanders, communicate with a diplomat/foreigner, or give commands to your own officers: the whole PREMISE of religion (in the way that you're talking about it) is that every individual ought to think and decide like a mutineer. This is why so many Iranians live in America and constantly say their government must be destroyed: because not only are many of them affiliated with the government, but the others, who protest against the Iranian government in front of the embassy in DC are NEVER punished, they NEVER get in fights with the "affiliated" ones, AND both groups are basically indistinguishable. And they get security clearance by simply not checking the box on the forms where they're supposed to tell their new employer if they're a citizen of Iran, the DPRK, Cuba, and maybe one other country. @@NotMe-et9bx
While this may explain how monotheistic religions seem to have a father figure, it does not explain why these religions would want their subjects to overcome their mortal instincts, or how polytheistic religions came to be.
The New Testament exists to accuse followers of the Old Testament of BEING anti-secular EXTREMISTS (who were called Hebrews, back in my day). Islam means that the accusation is even more justified, according to the same axiomatic foundation of self-evident truths [being "stacked" atop one another]. These Palestinians have bad luck because they have allowed themselves to become too close to extremist Hebrew radicals. Should we forgive them? Probably not. P.S.: If you don't understand this, you've clearly never tried to cooperate with law enforcement. And by the way, yes, everyone makes fun of China for not being real leftists and being to vulnerable to the Japanese "politics" of each time period (which are "centrist" in that the Japanese don't want to fight against the northern South Asians who created the Hindu/Buddhist texts, but China can justify fighting them. This is similar to the reluctance of many Christians to fight the members of Judaism who are responsible for the spread of extremism). Yes, the politics were "nuts" in the Old World's West, but there was a period when people in the East went to Buddhist boarding schools and THAT is a unique moment in history which we might not be able to claim that we share with them, in case you have any genes from the Old World. By the way, there are many idol-sculpting companies and it's really no big deal at all to make new ones, and the way that ancient idols get appraised and put in museums is pure nonsense, and I'm telling you this as a friendly gesture so the New World doesn't get fooled into paying for that stuff, or thinking it's valuable or SUPER controversial. It is indeed however, a friendly gesture, which they DO appreciate, if these idols are ever returned to them).
Do all orphans identify as non-orphans? It's more of a Parent-Teacher CONTINUUM than an "association", or "PTA". There are bigger things to think about than what you're thinking about @@genestone4951
Science and reason will never replace beliefs, as they occupy completely different spaces. There are things which the humans know, and things which they don't know. And there are things which they don't know but they believe. Why? Because it's essential for existence. On the other hand, there is no real conflict between science and religion. When Pythagoras invented science, he didn't do it for the industrial revolution. He did it exclusively for mystical reasons, to find the essence of the universe. If God made the world, he made the world the way the world is. The laws of the world, the laws of physics, mathematics, biology, are the laws of God. Knowing these laws you come closer to God. Everything else is just ideological farts with no connection with reality.
You are right in your first sentence, hence the powers that be, are creating new religion/s. The UFO religion is purposefully being crafted from at least half a century. Jacques Vallee has written very interesting books on the mater, not only "Passport to Magonia", but most importantly "Messengers of Deception" and "Revelations". I recommend those last 2 books especially! The new religion is needed to be global and inline with the dogmas of this time...
They don't occupy different spaces at all. Relogions make assertions about the natural world, which can be assessed by science. For instance, the assertion that Earth is 6,000 years old is contradicted by a wealth of geographic evidence.
@@RayLRhodes Yes, and the world was made in seven days, but there was no sun, so what does a day mean for God? Was there time before creation? It's very strange for a man of reason to adopt a fundamentalist view of a religious myth.
Most people are unable to think rationally and logically, so I have to agree with your first sentence. I don't believe there is any spiritual or omnipotent God, but u can see how the average person does.
There is little evidence for the evolution of humanity in the masses.However,humans who are sincere in their religious belief are usually more " evolved " than those stuck in the mass dimension. .
Everyone who isn't a fool or a total POS is only alive because his survival instinct is stronger than his intellect and morals. That's actually what Shakespeare says in Hamlet's soliloquy, even if he had to present it as people being afraid of punishment in the afterlife for censorship reasons.
Whom were disciples and the first Christians trying to control? This is so ironic that it's not even funny. They suffered from brutal beating, burning in hot oil, imprisonment, upside-down crucifixion, persecution, been burnt alive. And yet, astonishingly, Christianity had grown like it never would during the times of prosperity and comfort. It is thanks to Christians the first universities and hospitals were established. Thanks to Christianity science was possible; since we believe in God of order and not of confusion. It's only in Christian countries that it's possible for atheism and other religions coexist peacefully. It can never happen in the atheist North Korea. It wasn't possible in USSR. It hasn't been possible in Cuba. Atheists are delusional to think that atheism has been fruitful. The number of casualties that take place in the process of establishing atheist regimes is mind-boggling! And all they talk about it how religions (and by it they almost always allude to Christianity) bring about wars. They talk about thecrusades. Hypocrites! If it had not been for the crusades, atheism would've never even had the chance to arise to begin with..have you seen many an atheist(alive and well) in a Muslim country?
I'll refrain from taking the advice of someone who knew very little about religion, who said that lusting after your mother is normal, and who created a wild story about penis envy rather than accepting that pedophiles were harming children.
Also someone who circled himself only with people from his own religion, the jewish religion. Freud was jewish and almost all his inner circle with 1, max 2 exceptions, were jewish. Pretty much what is happening now. Jews criticizing others but never themselves.
It depends on what you mean by wise. We're all humans talking about humans, each through their perception. For example, ask Macron or Trudeau how useful religion is. Long story short, they may say it is a problem. And yet they are leaders. Did I just debunk the affirmation of Lucius Annaeus Seneca or is it not always true? Or maybe atheism has been a religion all along. Afterall, it asumes there is no such thing as God while having about as much proof as any religion. Only agnosticism differs since it asumes nothing and thus has nothing to prove.
@@soulfuzz368 The question is not just if there is a god, but why should anybody ow him his life? It's like being ruled by your parents forever. Just because they created you. Also there not one single reason, why god should not be able to speak to every existent being directly and simultaniously. There is a lot of bs, tho. Bs in the form of religion.
Freud was important because he was the first to seriously consider, study and analyze thoroughly the psychology. But remember he was just the first one, and he was wrong or limited in a lot of consideration. The video itself considers it when it says "Freud being Freud", which highlights the limitations of his view to explain everything to early young life and sexuality. He understood something meaningful, but could not see further than the beginning. It is something that any pioneer in a field will suffer. Later people will expand and reach better understanding. The point is: this is valid to Freud's view about religion TOO! He presented a very limited explanation that psychologist today would not agree about it. Another problem of the essay is only consider an European point of view of religion, and concludes that this is a general position of psychological repression. This is very specific of a set of Western religions that are not true in Eastern or African religions. There are several religious practices that try to reach the divine abolishing repression, in sexual frenzy for instance. In summary, this is a very limited and old view about religion in psychology. So much more was discussed about it in the academic fields, trying to figure out what is the "oceanic" feeling. Describe it as a mere illusion in XXI century is limited and ignored a lot of scientific development in this field, to says the least.
Its obvious if God is our heavenly Father,that he would place that infantile desire within us to last throughout life and so we can desire to stay in contact with Him. But for those many people who reject this need for a Father and laws,this is just as prevalent when they dont accept Him . Our deep true nature we must allow to be is to be a child who should follow the ways of a good father or mother too. Then so Freud only wanted to despiritualize everything he interpreted about the interactions of the mind! He wanted to materialize everything as random human instincts without God involved. Freud was only half right or maybe not even half right.What he vowed for with Nietchze and Marx was to create a rebellion against the need for having this heavenly Father. They were dangerous and wanted us freedom to give into doing the depravities of human mistakes.
Paul declares that Christianity is, from a human point of view, foolishness to the Greeks, and a shame to the Jews. When I let go of reason and skepticism does faith settle. Then faith becomes the basis of the Christian's entire mind. After that, I want to have enough new skepticism to understand the Bible so well. It's obvious that we didn't come from nothing. In contrast, Christianity is the religion that most goes against human will. Nietzsche was right in the sense that, a large part of humanity does not see any convenience in Christian teachings, people do not want a barrier to anything that comes from their own desire for themselves. The world has always been in ruins.
@@jnnltj believing in Christianity does not let go of reason. You also dont have to let go of human will and courage ,just because you renounce from commiting certain mistakes the human sin nature wants to otherwise commit. A large part of humanity does not see any convienence in Christianity because that is why crime does not end,and why why human sin continues without inhibiting it. Nietzche is all for crime and anarchy.
@@Elvengem I spoke of "letting go of reason" in the sense of letting go of the questions of: "The world always seems meaningless, the world is cruel, so why is God real?" "why is one Christian religion trustworthy? then why aren't all the others?" "The Christian religion in the hands of leaders, manipulates and ends up deceiving people, creates a herd, and many people in Christianity become fanatics, why should I believe?" "Why should I believe in a God who wants to be worshiped? Who, despite everything I can empirically prove, leaves no trace of his existence?" People say: "Why does Christians see a charm in life, why are they deluded into thinking that life is more than what it is? Life is simply like that, nothing more and nothing less. Because they are deluded into thinking that someone up there cares about humanity and want to save her?" "Life is just suffering, and inevitably futile, nothing has value, so why does Christianity use our desire for meaning, to make all this suffering have meaning and even a first cause? How come there is spiritual life?" "What do you mean I will be judged one day for everything I've done? What do you mean natural aspects of being human are a sin?" "Everything you come to believe, it doesn't matter, it's only valid for you. It's only the truths you can handle. You can't handle any more, and you try to deal with the weight of existence by having this faith of yours. There is no absolute truth, if it existed, we all would be able to see it" The crude reason we can have, without any faith, usually makes us doubt Christianity. By first letting go of these questions and allowing yourself to delve into the Bible, it seems that when you finish reading it, and listen to God's voice calmly, affectionately, you can capture answers to all these doubts. This is what I interpret when Jesus says: "He who has ears to hear, let him hear." On the other hand, the moral teachings of the Bible, show to be a truth, older than all civilizations. Of course, you need to use logic and reason within the narrative of the Bible, even to follow it. That's why it doesn't contradict itself, even though it's written by many different authors, that got the same source of inspiration, that of God. Jesus Christ is alive and is the Way, the Truth, and the Life.
@@Elvengem I spoke of "letting go of reason" in the sense of letting go of the questions of: "The world always seems meaningless, the world is cruel, so why is God real?" "why is one Christian religion trustworthy? then why aren't all the others?" "The Christian religion in the hands of leaders, manipulates and ends up deceiving people, creates a herd, and many people in Christianity become fanatics, why should I believe?" "Why should I believe in a God who wants to be worshiped? Who, despite everything I can empirically prove, leaves no trace of his existence?" People say: "Why does Christians see a charm in life, why are they deluded into thinking that life is more than what it is? Life is simply like that, nothing more and nothing less. Because they are deluded into thinking that someone up there cares about humanity and want to save her?" "Life is just suffering, and inevitably futile, nothing has value, so why does Christianity use our desire for meaning, to make all this suffering have meaning and even a first cause? How come there is spiritual life?" "What do you mean I will be judged one day for everything I've done? What do you mean natural aspects of being human are a sin?" "Everything you come to believe, it doesn't matter, it's only valid for you. It's only the truths you can handle. You can't handle any more, and you try to deal with the weight of existence by having this faith of yours. There is no absolute truth , if it existed, we all would be able to see it" The crude reason we can have, without any faith, usually makes us doubt Christianity. By first letting go of these questions and allowing yourself to delve into the Bible, it seems that when you finish reading it, and listen to God's voice calmly, affectionately, you can capture answers to all these doubts. This is what I interpret when Jesus says: "He who has ears to hear, let him hear." On the other hand, the moral teachings of the Bible, show to be a truth, older than all civilizations. Of course, you need to use logic and reason within the narrative of the Bible, even to follow it. That's why it doesn't contradict itself, even though it's written by many different authors. Jesus Christ is alive and is the Way, the Truth, and the Life.
@@gamera5160I don't recommend coping with maintaining your sanity through religion. Go to the One Who made you. He is God who gives us not the spirit of fear but that of a sound mind. Many people tried to be their own saviour and they would go everytime deeper into the rabbit hole until they have an encounter with God, the Maker of heaven and earth. The only one who can give the kind of peace that transcends all understanding. The Lord Himself invites us: Taste your Lord and see that He is good. The problem people have is that they first create a God in their mind(who is not the God of the Bible) and then try to explain to the rest of the unbelievers as to why they can't believe in such a god. Well, neither does a true follower of Christ. That's why one first has to humble oneself and really be sincere in their desire to get to know God. For God resists the proud, but is close to brokenhearted. That's why may of those philosophers and psychologists lose their minds. Unknowingly, they serve the devil, whose only goal is to steal, kill and destroy. Those people will never be at peace. That's why we have mental health issues that are ubiquitous. Today people have more than ever. And yet, most of them suffer from anxiety, suicidal thoughts, fear, pain, self cutting, etc. Go to God who is the only who can save you and restore your mental and physical health as well as your private relationships. May God bless you all
People who have religion to help them cope, don’t go and pay psychiatrists. No doubt , religion doesn’t work for everyone, but it works for lots of people.
Usually these anti Religious Arguments are also very only anti Christian Arguments they dont critize Islam or even different Religion that arent monotheistic . Thats why they often Fall flat in their face Like Marx whose Big brain Idea of destroying Religion IS creating a new ideology that Is Essentially a Religion in anything but Name
In my opinion, these views of Freud and others are very limited, especially and only directed to certain parts of religion, or only mainly to the abrahamic religions, it uses the eastern religions not by itself or analyzing it by itself, but rather, uses it as a side argument for the main argument which is against the abrahamic religions and imo nitpicks the necessary parts to make the such argument, im sure if they really delved deep into eastern religions and the modern spiritual traditions/movements/saints, they would have a very different answer. Carl Jung not meeting Ramana Maharshi, i think was one of the biggest fails of Jung personally, and what couldve been contributed to the world, i personally lean to the camp that thinks that Jung not meeting Ramana, was a characteristic of jungs own shadow which he hadnt realized, but anyways, i wish freud and others really delved deeper. Also FYI as a sidenote, Eastern "religions" arent religions, they were given the name religion in the western framework. Hinduism isnt hinduism, its original non western name is Sanatan Dharma, its a compilation of philosophical systems, and enquiry is first, not dogmatic belief. My main counter argument to these folks, would be, you are only looking at religion in its dogmatic sense, how can you explain mystics of the long past and recent past or even the present to some extent, they arent "human", Freuds argument is acc one of the best ive heard counteracting religion, and Dharma in some sense, esp vedanta and most parts of dharma would agree with most of his analysis, but rather than being it being an irrational delusion, it comes from the core of all living beings, the want to go back to its original form, what Freud calls that ocean, which he sees as relating to childhood need, is acc the childhood need of all living beings for eternity, so in some sense he is right, but it isnt a delusion acc to Sanatan Dharma. Coming back to my main argument (my apologies) is that in the east, these saints and mystics exist to this day, in the west the number is very low, but here is a place (east) where these sons of gods are being regulary produced, and a lot of these experiences, and their miracles, is very very hard for one to explain through just the lenses people like Freud and Nietczhe use, its impossible. An example, Freud compares this to dreams, but hey, when one wakes up from a true spiritual experience, one doesnt remain the same, the outside and the personality changes for the better, thayts the difference between true meditation progress, true bhakti, true jnana etc... it isnt like sleep or dreams, as in sleep acc to dharma you do go back to that eternal reality, the brahman, but it is like psychedelics, you come out of it normal (in psychedelics its temporary), nothing really changes, even in psychedelics its only philosophical concepts that changes for the most part, true change isnt there, thats the difference, and people like freud idt have heard this argument ive put forth which in the east people put forth, thus my point that if they have looked into the east and these sorts of arguments, their view on "religion" (even tho dharma isnt religion, its religious philosophy to some sense as theres an extraordinary and supernatural) would be very different.
We have some Saints in the west. St. John of San Francisco, St. Herman of Alaska, St. Innocent of Alaska, St. Olga of Alaska, and St. Tikhon, Apostle to the West. The Orthodox Church has a pretty good number actually, with many of them having a plentitude of miraculous interactions with Westerners here. Freud, Marx and Nietzsche can only address Christianity on a superficial level by attacking Protestantism and the softest parts of Catholicism. When Freud's argument against Christianity (which can really be an argument even against Freudianism) is thrusted upon Orthodoxy, it falls apart. The same is true for Marx and Nietzsche. They punched as low down as they could. They seemed to always be quivering and scurrying about, hiding from the Christianity that preserved its Apostolicity for two millennia. (I know you meant saints and what not in a more Hindu sense, but my knowledge of the thousands of Hindu sects is limited)
@@SeraphimVolker I agree with your comment 100% and I am glad that someone understands this. Traditional philosophy is metaphysics, and utilitarianists, nihilists and existentialists are part of antiphilosophy movement.
1 God as intelligent creator is the most logically feasible way of explaining the world, especially if you take into consideration that we all depend on something else for ex. oxygen, food, community, water you name it and God being the underlying sustainer of everything. Freud was just theologically illiterate and apathetic so was convenient to dismiss religion, especially since it went against his metaphysical naturalism he was into.
@@Suyanto231 --» سبب إباحة نكاح المتعة ثم تحريمه قال ابن القيم في (زاد المعاد): لم تحرم المتعة يوم خيبر، وإنما كان تحريمها عام الفتح، هذا هو الصواب، وقد ظن طائفة من أهل العلم أنه حرمها يوم خيبر، واحتجوا بما في الصحيحين من حديث علي بن أبي طالب -رضي الله عنه- أن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم «نهى عن متعة النساء يوم خيبر، وعن أكل لحوم الحمر الإنسية».
There's a lot of people that likes to criticizing religion, especially Christianity. But i never seen no one of them refutes the proofs of the existence of God or refute the Summa Theologica of Saint Thomas Aquinas. Like Freud, he said a lot of things about religion and Christianity, but never refutes anything. How could anyone take him serious if he cannot refutes the things that he criticize? Or like the people who are commenting in this video: make afirmations about this and that, but never prooving, in a logic way, their afirmations. I suppose that these people, like the people in the comments and the guy who made this video, don't even know about logic or logical proofs.
@@petersanders2815 You can find the proofs of the existence of God in the Summa Theologica of Saint Thomas Aquinas. (the proofs are in the First Volume, First Part, Question 2: The Existence of God). You can easily find The Summa Theologica PDF in anywhere.
It is off topic, but are you planning on doing a series on, Thus Spoke Zarathustra like the ones you have done on Beyond Good And Evil, and, On the Genealogy Of Morals?
@@bencordell1965 It's way more than that. It's the promise of being special from birth on. All your sins will be forgiven, anyway. Just accept a devine entity as the total authority over your life.
Let me tell you that Jesus Christ is alive. He is the true living savior, he is alive. Born from a virgin, he lived a perfect life. He was crucified on Mt. Calvary. Put in a borrowed tomb, but on the third day, on God's schedule. Up from the grave he rose and he lives as our blessed hope. Trust him. Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ. Thou shall be safe.
There is a great essey called "Bulverism" by C S Lewis (audio form also free on youtube, under 10 minutes), a great material about this topic. Highley recommended. If you want more material check out the book "the problem of pain" by the same author.
Hello Weltgeist, this might be a long shot in the dark, but here goes. I want to get into Carl Gustav Jung, so what would be a few books of his as starters for understanding his psychology? Cheers!
oh, Freud! nice, great video. have you read bataille by any chance? influenced strongly by precisely nietzsche, freud, marx and others like sade and hegel. theory of religion, the accursed share and erotism are among my favourite reads of all literature
The problem with Freud’s assessment with science is that it doesn’t provide a spiritual comfort for some people. It is as Nietzsche states that it is a form of nihilism as well because then the world is devoid of meaning. For some people, they can possess an absolutist view which helps them cope with this reality. However, for many others this includes non-religious people as well, something higher is needed to bring meaning to their existence. That’s why many people seek political ideologies, etc because it provides with a type of philosophical suicide but in exchange it provides them with a “moral” compass to fill the vacuum.
One of the core principles of Christianity is free will. God doesn't make anyone do anything, He wants us to participate in His life. If you want to have non-marital sex above having a relationship with God, go ahead. If you want to put money before anything else, go ahead! If you want to be envious or vengeful or any of the vices, GO AHEAD! If you put that before God, you can do it, but God reveals to us that our actions, as it turns out, have observable, empirically verifiable consequences. Some are obvious, other are much more subtle; some take generations for their fruits to ripen, but they always come true. The rules of Christianity are there to protect man from his own fallen nature. His proclivity to hurt himself by hurting others or polluting his body and mind. Its the catch 22 that the All Mighty puts Himself through willfully. If He just puts everything in right order by force, the game that He loves so much is over, but if He doesn't step in, many of His beloved children will refuse to play the game, or never be taught the rules. So He conspires to guide us towards Himself, slowly, mysteriously, where we *can choose* to doubt, or choose to trust, but there's always a choice to be mature, and accept reality, or deny it, and live in your lazy, neurotic self-deceptive cope we call atheism.
@@tiger04Funny how atheist become Calvinist and truly believe that there is a God preventing them from Free Will and believing everything is predestined by the Atheist God that is predestination through genetics. The atheist who doesn’t believe in Fee Will believes he has no choice and was predestined to post on TH-cam.
we do not believe anything. empirical evidence shows that there is no "you" to control. there is no "i" that exists. there is no one single point in where anyone ultimately exists. atheists do not worship genetics, or evolution...they study it - question it. Atheists reject "belief" as a concept altogether; as faith is just convincing yourself of something, but without the necessary means to justify *why* you believe such a thing. According to what physics and well - The Universe shows us: everything is predetermined. It is not a "God" we reject belief in all things; and simply seek out the truth. science is not a belief nor an objective "thing"...all it is - is a method of observing what happens in our universe and reality in a sound, non-biased, peer reviewed, repeated way. I understand that as a religious person it is difficult to grasp the fact that you are predisposed to your own conditions...and that you are not the center of the universe, but i challenge you to open your mind and think outside of the box for once. but wait; you cannot - your environment and your genetics already limit you from seeing around the fisheye you have encapsulated yourself within. i know you will not change and think about life in a more logical state - because your brain is already out of balance chemically in one way or another. you cannot think "freely" because thinking is done by a part of the brain; which is connected to another part of the brain connected to another part of the body and so on and so forth. meaning you cannot control how you think because at the end of the day: everything is connected. there is no "you". your personality and behavior is forever changing by the forces of the Universe and you have no control over it. you cannot stop it. like the other person said (and they are correct); our brains have evolved to soothe us by giving us the illusion of free will and ability to choose exactly what we do - which helps calm us in times of stress when our brains are overworking questions too complicated for us to answer. it all comes down to this: your biology (yes the physical world is the only "world" that exists, there are other dimensions - but they are still physical, energy is physical, everything we can perceive and measure are physical. there is no "spirit realm". there are only greater physical dimensions.), the environment while your brain was developing, and the social circumstances you are subject to now. there is nothing you can do to change this fact and to make sure you do not freak out your brain creates the illusion that your personality and emotions are a fixed vessel - separate from your body; when the truth is that they are one in the same. reality itself is a series full of illusions. if you have free will - then why don't you find my location - come over and fly like superman to me; and then pull a train out of your shoe. if "jesus" could do it then you can. i also find it hilarious that after reading the bible; "jesus" was a lot more communist/socialist than christians like to admit. it's incredible how delusional the human brain can become. i know i won't change your mind - because if i could then free will would exist. so i do not expect you to respond very productively to this comment...although i cannot blame you because again; you have no choice over what you believe in or what you do or think or feel or know. another example; if free will is real - then how were you born? you don't remember being a baby even, memories don't form that young. why didn't you just "choose" to be born in the most attractive body, or in a family of billionaires...? yeah. no answer to that one. LOL. last thing; this is only an exercise of thought - not meant to offend you so please don't go all paranoid schizophrenic on me. good day. @@scottsvt9104
@@tiger04do you have a choice to strike a man on the street or not? If the free will was a mere illusion, there wouldn't be a judicial system in place to begin with. Monkey don't have courts. But humans are not animals. We hold others accountable for their actions. We wouldn't be able to do so if people's actions were a byproduct of their brain chemical reactions.
Religion reveals the nature of the fundamental substance of the universe. Not knowing it would cause endless pain like dropping a brick on your toe! The choice is yours.
This video reminded me why I largely dislike Freud and Marx so much. A lot of Iain McGhilcrest's work seems to indicate that that the manner in which Freud and Marx looked at the word was a highly abstract, left-brained mechanism of 'things' -- which sees the world as fundamentally dead and inert at it's 'truest nature'. According to McGhilcrest, much of modern man actually functions as though it is damaged in the right hemisphere now, and I find that deeply concerning. I don't have an issue with slicing up the world and viewing it as mechanistic; but I have an issue with rather arrogantly/condescendingly presuming that it is the only correct way to view things. One can also look at the world through a perspective such as Alfred North Whitehead's -- in which Beingness/reality is fundamentally fluid, organic and alive. Why is that any less valid a perspective? 9:40 Contrary to what Freud thought, most religious people don't always feel as they 'gain control' over reality when they attain that feeling of oneness -- on the contrary, many describe feelings of surrendering to God (or the universe) and are actually just at greater peace.
I envy people who are able to believe in something. It must be magical to be able to imagine a being that can do things we haven't seen yet. It's like magic... and I love magic. I myself don't believe in a god, even though I sometimes wonder if my life would be better with, or without one. It doesn't matter though, you can still suffer no matter what you believe in. It's better to make the best of it. But to each their own
does it matter if you don't believe? Say, your enemy believes in a god or satan, and he believes god or satan has chosen him and his similars for a reason, say to dominate over the other men whom they call "cattle", and the land you live on is his because god said so. Would you call such a person a mad man and delusional?
@@roberthak3695 Weird question. If someone pisses me off, I would call them all kinds of things. But people can believe what they want. If I tell them not to, I wouldn't be better than the people who want to convert me
Just because you dont believe in God doesnt mean you dont believe in anything If that was the Case and you truly dont believe in anything whats stopping you from lying, Killing ,stealing?
@@laisphinto6372 All humans certainly believe in something, I believe that Thanos' motivation is stupid, for example. Not killing however doesn't have to be a belief, you can believe that killing is bad, but what actually stops you from killing might not be the belief itself, but your instincts.
Deleuze and Guattari would disagree Overall a very good video, the mentioning of the advancement in civilization is remarkable, so maybe thanks to religion we made collective advancements in morality and ethics, however, today religion may be holding some of us back from advancing morally, more specifically religious fundamentalists
Could be. Then again there could be lessons the ancients learned that we have forgotten and now take for granted and will have to learn all over again.
Great video! What would Dostoyevsky say about the need for religion? I guess it would be something like 12:56. Where it all brings us together to the same morals and doesn't have us playing god like someone who axes an old lady because he sees her unfit in this world.
There are other ways to justify what religion usually justifies (the how and why of the universe), why wouldn't the human mind just use those instead of religion? or use facts and logic?
All societies have myths. Some of them just happen to take the form of religions. Even if we take it to be a delusion,it is one we cannot live without.
Not true. It is most definitely possible to live and have a society without religion. It would more than likely be more peaceful as a whole without, as well.
@croaton07 That's a good tired lie. The instinctional desire and search for the Divine and higher complete existence always brings about worship by any other name. Even merely of the self, of habit, or otherwise. Those who don't recognize that are themselves the truly religiously enslaved. "Cope historical ignoramus."
yeah like a certain ethnicity/religion in the middle east who uses their delusional beliefs to justify gen0c1de, and also a supremacist racially homogeneous state but on the other countries where they dominate all media, they push "diversity" propaganda
I like how I perceive myself to be partaking in the movement of the geist around the question of religion through the neural network of the internet. This could just be my echo chamber but I don't think it is, I think it's a broader expanse of consciousness. Come to think of it, that's what your channel is about.
No they don't. What you call "scientists" are "middle level" midwits who propagandize what you think of as science. Top scientist, those that actually discover stuff, have firmly believed in God, be it islamic scientists or christian. @@hel803 Stephen C. Meyer has an interesting compilation of such scientists in his book "The Return of GOD Hypothesis" (havent read it yet though!)
JESUS loves you all may you see his true living light one day, though some may think we believe as a cope we believe with faith, logic, reason, historical basis, evidence, arguments etc please make sure you know GOD before you try and judge him and his people for you are his people yourselves and salvation awaits you through JESUS Christ ✝️‼️
Now i know why the brain is working at 10% when you're on psylsibin, ketamine or LSD,. You're back as a child yet stangely closer to the earth and god from whence you came. Very little disassociation from the 'nothing' from where you came. The universe is possible infinite yet 'nothing' can not be found.
I'm 54 and it ain't that deep. It's really shallow actually. All humans are. Just watch human behavior. Kardashians and endless vapid nonsense. Corporate advertising and marketing. Religion. "It's all bullsh!t, and it's bad for you" - George Carlin The true "meaning of life" is a Monty Python movie.
I advise you at your young age to do not waste your youth on this religion. Go collect collector cards and play video games, but don't waste your youth on that religion. You you will regret it.
It must be said for a man like Sigmund Freud who was wrong about everything he ever said his influence is quite large. Let that be good hope for all of us. And that applies equally to Marx.
So, it means(to him, Freud) that Religion surge when humans eyesight the immensurable nature of the universe and try to respond with God for creating this unsolved problem, am i right?
To use Buddhism in this though? Now I don't consider any non-theist like Buddhism as a religion. More a Philosophy which surprise, Religion is not either.
I always say believing that multiverse where marvel, anime characters exist is better than believing in stupid religion at least it doesn't causes violence, abuse,wars, delusion on people
I think an atheist envies a theist the same way a teetotaler envies an alcoholic. One must cross the barrier of distaste of alcohol before becoming an alcoholic just like an atheist must cross the rationality of thought before becoming a theist.
@@patriot5550 do you really on man's understanding of the universe did God not show how insignificant our mind is in the expanse of the universe . Rely on God not on yourself
All living beings, are nothing but a bundle of nerves, that is capable of memories, and some logic, very similar to a computer! When we live, we acumilate information, then process it and store it, for later revival. Each individual is different because the input information is different, even identical twins! So we over estimate that humans are superior, we have souls, that carries forward even after death! Not so, death kills all our memories! My argument is, if we live with this concept in our minds, we don't need religion to console us, about the fear of death. However, I also fear death! Maybe, my upbringing, made sure that I should fear death.
why do you trust your judgments if your brain didn't evolve to fit the universe? Why is the universe so intelligible? A computer can only do these things because it's made in our image, but who made us?
To the believers... their divine 'father figure' has chosen to play a game. With the hordes of little ones in 'the human herd' that supposedly look 'a bit like him'. That game is life ...and 'life' is purely a test to show your devotion to him. Get through the test ( three score and ten years ) and you can spend eternity, squatting in his awe-inspiring glow. That's it, there is no more to it. The whole of life is an illusion... there is no pain, or suffering. It was only a game. ( Similar to how a lot of people now theorise 'play with' with the idea of the world, being a computer simulation ) This is how the Abrahamic religions see the underlying nature of reality. As a God given test. Everything else is semantics. You either chose to accept this, or you won't. Generally, only a very small minority of the herd think this is all nonsense. But the vast majority of the herd need it, they desperately need the conclusion it offers. The ability to be absolutely right about the true nature of reality and that life is eternal. Both of these dispel, or at least subdue… the curse of human anxiety. This is what all humans instinctively and unanimously require. A complete release from 'mortal' anxiety. Atheists should understand this. But like children they fight it, as if they would fight a parent for trying to overly protect them. Yet they have to realise they are the outlier. They're out of touch with the 'majority', herd mentality. Whether they're devoid of normal herd-like levels of emphatic empathy, or just righteously belligerent iconoclasts.They must realise they're the noisy minority. And in many ways... both of these atheist subgroups should consider themselves, psychologically abnormal. For it is normal to believe in fanciful myths, and stories of ever lasting life. It is and always will be the default setting. It's what they implicitly need to function. Many things in life persist because they're 'tried and tested'. Because they're absolutely essential tools for the mental well-being of the herd.
A computational biologist, Jack Wathey, has taken these ideas further, with his book - 'The Illusion of God's Presence', religious imagery is full of paternalistic motifs, highlighting the need for a super-parent as source of comfort.
That’s stupid. Freud saying people feel this oceanic feeling , this feeling of eternity, this feeling of something beyond… is simply a subjective desire to control a scary, hostile, foreign place … how does he know that is true? How does he know that is why that feeling is there? How does he know that God did not place that feeling there for a reason? The feeling of eternity was placed there by God. Ecclesiastes 3:11 God has set eternity in the human heart.
The shitty thing is that we all going to die. No matter how much we do philosophy. The reason stops when people seduce them selves into believing that they are going to heaven even if they know in their heart's that it isn't true. It's the same mechanisms that a alcoholic has when he thinks that it somehow will work out. Even if he looses his ability to walk after a long period of heavy drinking he still insist.
I came to Christ not because i felt scared of this world; if anything i was enjoying myself way too much only to see just how destructful that way of living was at the end. God met me where i was. He had been waiting for me for a long time: He is faithful even if we aren't. He is loving. He died for me knowing that id betray Him and yet, He still willingly laid His life down for me. It is true: the kind of peace that Christ gives one transcends all understanding. I recommend checking from New age to Jesus testimonies. It's beautiful ❤❤❤
Freud's assumption as articulated here of us being inclined towards "bloodlust" is actually a variation of the Christian "original sin". We know today that as social creatures we are born hard-wired with empathy, and are naturally inclined towards things such as compassion and altruism. To not feel empathy is a major pathology.
Human beings are beings that worship. The defining feature of humanity. And if you do not worship something supernatural, bigger than ourselves, divine, then you will worship the profane and worldly. Money, drugs, products. I'm convinced that Sigmund Freud has been elevated to his status as it means of disconnecting man from his humanity
I don't worship anything, and am good, my mind is mine only ,I live with what I was created with by the creator, creator's attributes, nothing more nothing less, Good 👍
The Christian believes in Christ because a) Jesus walked on this earth and called Himself God; b) predicted His own death and resurrection, stating that He will raise Himself from death; c) Biblical prophesies came true and one of them was Christ was crucified despite not being guilty; c) a real encounter with God, who subsequently takes out a person's and gives them a new one and their whole life is transformed: there is literally before and after in their life where God restores one area at a time; since He is God of order and not confusion. I get dumbfounded every time a person tries, who has no idea of what Christ taught and what it meant, trying to explain other unbelievers what Christians believe
In this cruel world religion is the best cure against depression, mental illness etc., you want to take that away from me ?, 👋🏼 I say bye bye love, bye bye happiness
How are u gonna be happy if you are not even sure religion exists? Or are u gonna just believe. I'd rather face truth and not be a scared person than cope.
@@kingearth3672 Dear Kings Earth, I strongly believes that our soul Passover to another universe, that we leaves our body and Passover to a non physical dimension when I leave my body. Doing good things, to be loving, caring gives a better "after life" ❤️. I am content with my life because I believe in a loving creator and being a good person will help me in the next life, billions believe as I do, catholic, Muslims, protestants, etc. believe the same; we have one creator who is our master, and we have command grounds, it gives us peace in our mind and soul. Why will non believers not leave us alone, let us keep our beliefs, as we leave atheists, scientists and business people to their beliefs. Real religions want only peace. I am talking about TRUE believers, not the fake ones who only want power and money . So many fake information, follow the bible or Koran, not the priest, not the news... Even if I am wrong, my belief gives me peace.....historically Christianity has lifted humanity to a better life, it separates us from being animals. Hope you understand what I mean.... Thanks for your remark.
@@kingearth3672how can you still believe in atheism when you see what followed in its wake? Believe me brother, only those peoples who maintain their traditional faith in God will survive. Atheism and Liberalism are self refuting ways of life.
@@NorthernObserver religion is self refuting, its evil and for me, destroys freedom. And if people are using religion to be good but are bad people if religion didn't exist then they are still bad at heart and only good due to fear of religion. And not being religious doesn't make u an evil person. Being good or bad depends on the person. And people will choose to be religious or not religious based on their own feelings so people who were good only thanks to religious fear turning evil when they stopped being religious can't really be helped cause that's who they truly were. Again, whatever followed after religion is due to PEOPLE THEMSELVES, atheism doesn't say to do whatever you mean by "followed in its wake." Also again, we can't really stop people from being evil due to them stopping being religious as it's up to their feelings to be religious or not so it's not atheism' s fault they became evil but their own nature. And wdym u need religion to survive, no u don't if u are strong or want to be truly strong which would mean u would not use religion to "survive."
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Do you have original thoughts? It seems you can only repost others work
Religion isnt cope
The New Testament exists to accuse followers of the Old Testament of BEING anti-secular EXTREMISTS (who were called Hebrews, back in my day). Islam means that the accusation is even more justified, according to the same axiomatic foundation of self-evident truths [being "stacked" atop one another]. These Palestinians have bad luck because they have allowed themselves to become too close to extremist Hebrew radicals. Should we forgive them? Probably not.
P.S.: If you don't understand this, you've clearly never tried to cooperate with law enforcement. And by the way, yes, everyone makes fun of China for not being real leftists and being to vulnerable to the Japanese "politics" of each time period (which are "centrist" in that the Japanese don't want to fight against the northern South Asians who created the Hindu/Buddhist texts, but China can justify fighting them. This is similar to the reluctance of many Christians to fight the members of Judaism who are responsible for the spread of extremism). Yes, the politics were "nuts" in the Old World's West, but there was a period when people in the East went to Buddhist boarding schools and THAT is a unique moment in history which we might not be able to claim that we share with them, in case you have any genes from the Old World.
By the way, there are many idol-sculpting companies and it's really no big deal at all to make new ones, and the way that ancient idols get appraised and put in museums is pure nonsense, and I'm telling you this as a friendly gesture so the New World doesn't get fooled into paying for that stuff, or thinking it's valuable or SUPER controversial. It is indeed however, a friendly gesture, which they DO appreciate, if these idols are ever returned to them).
Its obvious if God is our heavenly Father,that he would place that infantile desire within us to last throughout life and so we can desire to stay in contact with Him. But for those many people who reject this need for a Father and laws,this is just as prevalent when they dont accept Him . Our deep true nature we must allow to be is to be a child who should follow the ways of a good father or mother too. Then so Freud only wanted to despiritualize everything he interpreted about the interactions of the mind! He wanted to materialize everything as random human instincts without God involved. Freud was only half right or maybe not even half right.What he vowed for with Nietchze and Marx was to create a rebellion against the need for having this heavenly Father. They were dangerous and wanted us freedom to give into doing the depravities of human mistakes.
@@Elvengem Religion is proven correct during instants of time by specific individuals, while reflexes (and common sense) are also proven to have similar congruity. The reflexes are referred to as "earthly". The other stuff is referred to as "supernatural". However, the supernatural "world" merely exists in order to provide a "background" on which the "earthly" world is revealed, during investigations. Christianity seems to be "edgy" by nature. It seems as if it's "A False Flag Operation". In South Asia, these things are different
"For Freud, religion was a neurosis."
Jung: " . . . And I took that personally."
freud was a typical jew hack
I like how the definition of “cope” has changed to anything you’re doing while also simultaneously not being a millionaire. Anybody who doesn’t have literally everything they want is now “coping”. 🙄
Exactly. It's becoming annoying.
Coping is a part of human existence, we're all coping hard
Its not bad that the meanings of words are changing but that there now is a word that means what the new coping means. I guess for now its here to stay, but things are always changing.
@@krishnashukla9154 Exactly. If we examine the claim objectively, instead of accepting at face value as the insult it's intended to be, it seems reasonable that we're all coping all the time, not just most of us most of the time. We are the animal that knows it must die. It explains so much about us. We all cope, it's the means by which we cope that varies between individuals. Christians and other religious people are indeed coping, so are philosophers and psychologists who undermine religion, so are youtube commentors who point this out.
Very good point.
As a non-religious European its funny to listen to this, after having discovered that the supermajority of Freuds following (inner circle) was full of jewish people. It seems that he should have pointed his analysis lens to his own religion. Or maybe criticising and demoralising christians was the intention all along?
Btw, anybody has read the babylonian talmud? Very interesting (set of ) books, even more interesting than the Bible or Kuran.
Quran lore is pretty deep you got me hooked
The New Testament exists to accuse followers of the Old Testament of BEING anti-secular EXTREMISTS (who were called Hebrews, back in my day). Islam means that the accusation is even more justified, according to the same axiomatic foundation of self-evident truths [being "stacked" atop one another]. These Palestinians have bad luck because they have allowed themselves to become too close to extremist Hebrew radicals. Should we forgive them? Probably not.
P.S.: If you don't understand this, you've clearly never tried to cooperate with law enforcement. And by the way, yes, everyone makes fun of China for not being real leftists and being to vulnerable to the Japanese "politics" of each time period (which are "centrist" in that the Japanese don't want to fight against the northern South Asians who created the Hindu/Buddhist texts, but China can justify fighting them. This is similar to the reluctance of many Christians to fight the members of Judaism who are responsible for the spread of extremism). Yes, the politics were "nuts" in the Old World's West, but there was a period when people in the East went to Buddhist boarding schools and THAT is a unique moment in history which we might not be able to claim that we share with them, in case you have any genes from the Old World.
By the way, there are many idol-sculpting companies and it's really no big deal at all to make new ones, and the way that ancient idols get appraised and put in museums is pure nonsense, and I'm telling you this as a friendly gesture so the New World doesn't get fooled into paying for that stuff, or thinking it's valuable or SUPER controversial. It is indeed however, a friendly gesture, which they DO appreciate, if these idols are ever returned to them).
You have not read the Babylonian Talmud, and the vast majority of people haven’t. If you claim to have completed Daf Yomi and you’re not an ultra Orthodox Jew then you’re simply a liar.
I have. And I plan to read the Zohar.@@cheers6043
@@cheers6043and if you lie about the contents and implications made in the babylonian talmud, then you're also a liar
Just wanted to write a thought I had just from the first two minutes.
Coping really is, a least to me, a function of the self. Our mind must find ways to cope with existence.
The opening of Shirley Jackson's Haunting of Hill House starts with the striking line: "no live organism can continue for long to exist sanely under conditions of absolute reality"
I think as human beings we must limit our reality in order to function. I believe this is why religion, advertisements, secular ideologies, gender roles and so on are so appealing to us. When asked "how do we cope with the suffering around the world" we are often told to focus on things we can control, to limit our view. To create our own cages to comfort us from the the universal cage of existence.
Yeah I agree with you. In the moment we realize reality is not as it is fully to our perception, then we can agree that our reality is a human condition. Religion is included in that because of the universality of the spiritual tendency we have. And at the same time it does not mean it is not real. Psychological experiences and phenomena are no less real because they are not tangible. Otherwise I would have to say that the fact that I cry watching Cars 1 is nothing more than a mere illusion.
This makes perfect sense in fact. It is literally impossible for us to understand all of reality, as we need to have the capacity for an insane magnitude of knowledge. Not only that, all of the mind-boggling things and scary things in our universe- such as war, abuse, and the concept of infinity, take a toll on the mechanisms within our mind and bodies.
Well, the religion has faded but reason hasn't taken over the world. We live in precarious times.
Religion is stronger than it's ever been, but only false gods rule. Worship of the state or the self is the mainline faith.
@@NotMe-et9bx More like worship of the money.
Every survivor is like a refugee, but not every refugee is like a survivor. We need you in this religion till your last breath. Are you going to tell me, "No", Soldier? @@NotMe-et9bx
Why are you begging for a European-style Dark Ages? I guess we can't EXPECT you to REMEMBER the reason why Islamists are called "terrorists", but I'll tell you right now that the Dark Ages never really ended, and that Medieval European art will stop looking Foreign to you guys unless you take life seriously. @@NotMe-et9bx
What you say that you agree to SOUNDS like a great idea, but actually bringing that into reality would be terrible. For example, imagine if you were a top-ranking cop or soldier and you needed to give commands to either civilians/bystanders, communicate with a diplomat/foreigner, or give commands to your own officers: the whole PREMISE of religion (in the way that you're talking about it) is that every individual ought to think and decide like a mutineer.
This is why so many Iranians live in America and constantly say their government must be destroyed: because not only are many of them affiliated with the government, but the others, who protest against the Iranian government in front of the embassy in DC are NEVER punished, they NEVER get in fights with the "affiliated" ones, AND both groups are basically indistinguishable. And they get security clearance by simply not checking the box on the forms where they're supposed to tell their new employer if they're a citizen of Iran, the DPRK, Cuba, and maybe one other country.
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While this may explain how monotheistic religions seem to have a father figure, it does not explain why these religions would want their subjects to overcome their mortal instincts, or how polytheistic religions came to be.
The New Testament exists to accuse followers of the Old Testament of BEING anti-secular EXTREMISTS (who were called Hebrews, back in my day). Islam means that the accusation is even more justified, according to the same axiomatic foundation of self-evident truths [being "stacked" atop one another]. These Palestinians have bad luck because they have allowed themselves to become too close to extremist Hebrew radicals. Should we forgive them? Probably not.
P.S.: If you don't understand this, you've clearly never tried to cooperate with law enforcement. And by the way, yes, everyone makes fun of China for not being real leftists and being to vulnerable to the Japanese "politics" of each time period (which are "centrist" in that the Japanese don't want to fight against the northern South Asians who created the Hindu/Buddhist texts, but China can justify fighting them. This is similar to the reluctance of many Christians to fight the members of Judaism who are responsible for the spread of extremism). Yes, the politics were "nuts" in the Old World's West, but there was a period when people in the East went to Buddhist boarding schools and THAT is a unique moment in history which we might not be able to claim that we share with them, in case you have any genes from the Old World.
By the way, there are many idol-sculpting companies and it's really no big deal at all to make new ones, and the way that ancient idols get appraised and put in museums is pure nonsense, and I'm telling you this as a friendly gesture so the New World doesn't get fooled into paying for that stuff, or thinking it's valuable or SUPER controversial. It is indeed however, a friendly gesture, which they DO appreciate, if these idols are ever returned to them).
Christianity likes to think of itself as monotheistic; doesn't mean it actually is .
Do all orphans identify as non-orphans? It's more of a Parent-Teacher CONTINUUM than an "association", or "PTA". There are bigger things to think about than what you're thinking about @@genestone4951
Science and reason will never replace beliefs, as they occupy completely different spaces. There are things which the humans know, and things which they don't know. And there are things which they don't know but they believe. Why? Because it's essential for existence. On the other hand, there is no real conflict between science and religion. When Pythagoras invented science, he didn't do it for the industrial revolution. He did it exclusively for mystical reasons, to find the essence of the universe. If God made the world, he made the world the way the world is. The laws of the world, the laws of physics, mathematics, biology, are the laws of God. Knowing these laws you come closer to God. Everything else is just ideological farts with no connection with reality.
You are right in your first sentence, hence the powers that be, are creating new religion/s. The UFO religion is purposefully being crafted from at least half a century. Jacques Vallee has written very interesting books on the mater, not only "Passport to Magonia", but most importantly "Messengers of Deception" and "Revelations". I recommend those last 2 books especially!
The new religion is needed to be global and inline with the dogmas of this time...
They don't occupy different spaces at all. Relogions make assertions about the natural world, which can be assessed by science. For instance, the assertion that Earth is 6,000 years old is contradicted by a wealth of geographic evidence.
@@RayLRhodes Yes, and the world was made in seven days, but there was no sun, so what does a day mean for God? Was there time before creation? It's very strange for a man of reason to adopt a fundamentalist view of a religious myth.
Most people are unable to think rationally and logically, so I have to agree with your first sentence. I don't believe there is any spiritual or omnipotent God, but u can see how the average person does.
@@croaton07 Those which conditioned you to be an atheist are religious fanatics. Your lack of believes makes you weak.
Religion will fall away naturally as humanity evolves, just like all popular ideologies do.
One can only hope.
Now that is something I will pray for
There is little evidence for the evolution of humanity in the masses.However,humans who are sincere in their religious belief are usually more " evolved " than those stuck in the mass dimension. .
Nukes will fall on us naturally as humanity drown in its own waste.
Yeah, religion was never a good idea. It surely will disappear for good.
I'd extend that to ideology in general, not just religion.
I’d extend that to living in general. If you’re alive, it’s just a cope.
@@killgriffinnowthat's why we should do what we like.
@@MH-up1xeFound the hedonist
@@MH-up1xeImagine you are sentenced in prison, not knowing what got you there and you say just do some activities that you like.
Everyone who isn't a fool or a total POS is only alive because his survival instinct is stronger than his intellect and morals. That's actually what Shakespeare says in Hamlet's soliloquy, even if he had to present it as people being afraid of punishment in the afterlife for censorship reasons.
As the father of a pseudoscience, he was just scared of competition.
Oh, and the dislike of usury from Christianity surely didn’t help
You consider psychology to be a psychoscience? Wow.
It's the control system. It was all setup for control.
Whom were disciples and the first Christians trying to control? This is so ironic that it's not even funny. They suffered from brutal beating, burning in hot oil, imprisonment, upside-down crucifixion, persecution, been burnt alive. And yet, astonishingly, Christianity had grown like it never would during the times of prosperity and comfort. It is thanks to Christians the first universities and hospitals were established. Thanks to Christianity science was possible; since we believe in God of order and not of confusion. It's only in Christian countries that it's possible for atheism and other religions coexist peacefully. It can never happen in the atheist North Korea. It wasn't possible in USSR. It hasn't been possible in Cuba. Atheists are delusional to think that atheism has been fruitful. The number of casualties that take place in the process of establishing atheist regimes is mind-boggling! And all they talk about it how religions (and by it they almost always allude to Christianity) bring about wars. They talk about thecrusades. Hypocrites! If it had not been for the crusades, atheism would've never even had the chance to arise to begin with..have you seen many an atheist(alive and well) in a Muslim country?
I'll refrain from taking the advice of someone who knew very little about religion, who said that lusting after your mother is normal, and who created a wild story about penis envy rather than accepting that pedophiles were harming children.
Also someone who circled himself only with people from his own religion, the jewish religion. Freud was jewish and almost all his inner circle with 1, max 2 exceptions, were jewish. Pretty much what is happening now. Jews criticizing others but never themselves.
@@roberthak3695 Christians really are unaware self hating Jews in a way
“Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful.”
Lucius Annaeus Seneca
It depends on what you mean by wise. We're all humans talking about humans, each through their perception.
For example, ask Macron or Trudeau how useful religion is. Long story short, they may say it is a problem. And yet they are leaders. Did I just debunk the affirmation of Lucius Annaeus Seneca or is it not always true?
Or maybe atheism has been a religion all along. Afterall, it asumes there is no such thing as God while having about as much proof as any religion.
Only agnosticism differs since it asumes nothing and thus has nothing to prove.
Yet all die in the end… all meaningless, unless there is a God…
Read the book of Ecclesiastes :)
Wisdom is found in the fear of God.
@@Aa07aa that's straight up false, things are not meaningless because there's no god
@@matinhosmatosthat’s just your opinion, many disagree and because there is no god, who is to say who is correct? Nobody.
@@soulfuzz368 The question is not just if there is a god, but why should anybody ow him his life? It's like being ruled by your parents forever. Just because they created you.
Also there not one single reason, why god should not be able to speak to every existent being directly and simultaniously. There is a lot of bs, tho. Bs in the form of religion.
Freud was important because he was the first to seriously consider, study and analyze thoroughly the psychology. But remember he was just the first one, and he was wrong or limited in a lot of consideration. The video itself considers it when it says "Freud being Freud", which highlights the limitations of his view to explain everything to early young life and sexuality. He understood something meaningful, but could not see further than the beginning. It is something that any pioneer in a field will suffer. Later people will expand and reach better understanding. The point is: this is valid to Freud's view about religion TOO! He presented a very limited explanation that psychologist today would not agree about it. Another problem of the essay is only consider an European point of view of religion, and concludes that this is a general position of psychological repression. This is very specific of a set of Western religions that are not true in Eastern or African religions. There are several religious practices that try to reach the divine abolishing repression, in sexual frenzy for instance. In summary, this is a very limited and old view about religion in psychology. So much more was discussed about it in the academic fields, trying to figure out what is the "oceanic" feeling. Describe it as a mere illusion in XXI century is limited and ignored a lot of scientific development in this field, to says the least.
Wilhelm Wundt ?
You spelled Nietzsche wrong.
I highly recommend checking from New Age to Jesus testimonies ❤❤❤❤. Be blessed
Its obvious if God is our heavenly Father,that he would place that infantile desire within us to last throughout life and so we can desire to stay in contact with Him. But for those many people who reject this need for a Father and laws,this is just as prevalent when they dont accept Him . Our deep true nature we must allow to be is to be a child who should follow the ways of a good father or mother too. Then so Freud only wanted to despiritualize everything he interpreted about the interactions of the mind! He wanted to materialize everything as random human instincts without God involved. Freud was only half right or maybe not even half right.What he vowed for with Nietchze and Marx was to create a rebellion against the need for having this heavenly Father. They were dangerous and wanted us freedom to give into doing the depravities of human mistakes.
Paul declares that Christianity is, from a human point of view, foolishness to the Greeks, and a shame to the Jews. When I let go of reason and skepticism does faith settle. Then faith becomes the basis of the Christian's entire mind. After that, I want to have enough new skepticism to understand the Bible so well. It's obvious that we didn't come from nothing. In contrast, Christianity is the religion that most goes against human will. Nietzsche was right in the sense that, a large part of humanity does not see any convenience in Christian teachings, people do not want a barrier to anything that comes from their own desire for themselves. The world has always been in ruins.
@@jnnltj believing in Christianity does not let go of reason. You also dont have to let go of human will and courage ,just because you renounce from commiting certain mistakes the human sin nature wants to otherwise commit. A large part of humanity does not see any convienence in Christianity because that is why crime does not end,and why why human sin continues without inhibiting it. Nietzche is all for crime and anarchy.
@@Elvengem I spoke of "letting go of reason" in the sense of letting go of the questions of: "The world always seems meaningless, the world is cruel, so why is God real?" "why is one Christian religion trustworthy? then why aren't all the others?" "The Christian religion in the hands of leaders, manipulates and ends up deceiving people, creates a herd, and many people in Christianity become fanatics, why should I believe?" "Why should I believe in a God who wants to be worshiped? Who, despite everything I can empirically prove, leaves no trace of his existence?"
People say:
"Why does Christians see a charm in life, why are they deluded into thinking that life is more than what it is? Life is simply like that, nothing more and nothing less. Because they are deluded into thinking that someone up there cares about humanity and want to save her?" "Life is just suffering, and inevitably futile, nothing has value, so why does Christianity use our desire for meaning, to make all this suffering have meaning and even a first cause? How come there is spiritual life?" "What do you mean I will be judged one day for everything I've done? What do you mean natural aspects of being human are a sin?" "Everything you come to believe, it doesn't matter, it's only valid for you. It's only the truths you can handle. You can't handle any more, and you try to deal with the weight of existence by having this faith of yours. There is no absolute truth, if it existed, we all would be able to see it"
The crude reason we can have, without any faith, usually makes us doubt Christianity. By first letting go of these questions and allowing yourself to delve into the Bible, it seems that when you finish reading it, and listen to God's voice calmly, affectionately, you can capture answers to all these doubts. This is what I interpret when Jesus says: "He who has ears to hear, let him hear."
On the other hand, the moral teachings of the Bible, show to be a truth, older than all civilizations. Of course, you need to use logic and reason within the narrative of the Bible, even to follow it. That's why it doesn't contradict itself, even though it's written by many different authors, that got the same source of inspiration, that of God. Jesus Christ is alive and is the Way, the Truth, and the Life.
@@Elvengem I spoke of "letting go of reason" in the sense of letting go of the questions of: "The world always seems meaningless, the world is cruel, so why is God real?" "why is one Christian religion trustworthy? then why aren't all the others?" "The Christian religion in the hands of leaders, manipulates and ends up deceiving people, creates a herd, and many people in Christianity become fanatics, why should I believe?" "Why should I believe in a God who wants to be worshiped? Who, despite everything I can empirically prove, leaves no trace of his existence?"
People say:
"Why does Christians see a charm in life, why are they deluded into thinking that life is more than what it is? Life is simply like that, nothing more and nothing less. Because they are deluded into thinking that someone up there cares about humanity and want to save her?" "Life is just suffering, and inevitably futile, nothing has value, so why does Christianity use our desire for meaning, to make all this suffering have meaning and even a first cause? How come there is spiritual life?" "What do you mean I will be judged one day for everything I've done? What do you mean natural aspects of being human are a sin?" "Everything you come to believe, it doesn't matter, it's only valid for you. It's only the truths you can handle. You can't handle any more, and you try to deal with the weight of existence by having this faith of yours. There is no absolute truth , if it existed, we all would be able to see it"
The crude reason we can have, without any faith, usually makes us doubt Christianity. By first letting go of these questions and allowing yourself to delve into the Bible, it seems that when you finish reading it, and listen to God's voice calmly, affectionately, you can capture answers to all these doubts. This is what I interpret when Jesus says: "He who has ears to hear, let him hear."
On the other hand, the moral teachings of the Bible, show to be a truth, older than all civilizations. Of course, you need to use logic and reason within the narrative of the Bible, even to follow it. That's why it doesn't contradict itself, even though it's written by many different authors. Jesus Christ is alive and is the Way, the Truth, and the Life.
Proff of your god?
Psychotherapy is cope. Religion is cope. Coping is an important thing for humans to do so we don't lose our minds.
Its all cope and everything people do is to find meaning in even the smallest of tasks
@@Napoleonwilson1973 Even a brief exchange of understanding in a TH-cam comment section has meaning.
Omg! So profound!
Agree. The main problem is that life is so brutal that it requires coping mechanisms.
@@gamera5160I don't recommend coping with maintaining your sanity through religion. Go to the One Who made you. He is God who gives us not the spirit of fear but that of a sound mind. Many people tried to be their own saviour and they would go everytime deeper into the rabbit hole until they have an encounter with God, the Maker of heaven and earth. The only one who can give the kind of peace that transcends all understanding. The Lord Himself invites us: Taste your Lord and see that He is good. The problem people have is that they first create a God in their mind(who is not the God of the Bible) and then try to explain to the rest of the unbelievers as to why they can't believe in such a god. Well, neither does a true follower of Christ. That's why one first has to humble oneself and really be sincere in their desire to get to know God. For God resists the proud, but is close to brokenhearted. That's why may of those philosophers and psychologists lose their minds. Unknowingly, they serve the devil, whose only goal is to steal, kill and destroy. Those people will never be at peace. That's why we have mental health issues that are ubiquitous. Today people have more than ever. And yet, most of them suffer from anxiety, suicidal thoughts, fear, pain, self cutting, etc. Go to God who is the only who can save you and restore your mental and physical health as well as your private relationships. May God bless you all
People who have religion to help them cope, don’t go and pay psychiatrists. No doubt , religion doesn’t work for everyone, but it works for lots of people.
Usually these anti Religious Arguments are also very only anti Christian Arguments they dont critize Islam or even different Religion that arent monotheistic . Thats why they often Fall flat in their face Like Marx whose Big brain Idea of destroying Religion IS creating a new ideology that Is Essentially a Religion in anything but Name
What they have in common is a certain anti Christian orthodox persuasion ...
In my opinion, these views of Freud and others are very limited, especially and only directed to certain parts of religion, or only mainly to the abrahamic religions, it uses the eastern religions not by itself or analyzing it by itself, but rather, uses it as a side argument for the main argument which is against the abrahamic religions and imo nitpicks the necessary parts to make the such argument, im sure if they really delved deep into eastern religions and the modern spiritual traditions/movements/saints, they would have a very different answer. Carl Jung not meeting Ramana Maharshi, i think was one of the biggest fails of Jung personally, and what couldve been contributed to the world, i personally lean to the camp that thinks that Jung not meeting Ramana, was a characteristic of jungs own shadow which he hadnt realized, but anyways, i wish freud and others really delved deeper. Also FYI as a sidenote, Eastern "religions" arent religions, they were given the name religion in the western framework. Hinduism isnt hinduism, its original non western name is Sanatan Dharma, its a compilation of philosophical systems, and enquiry is first, not dogmatic belief. My main counter argument to these folks, would be, you are only looking at religion in its dogmatic sense, how can you explain mystics of the long past and recent past or even the present to some extent, they arent "human", Freuds argument is acc one of the best ive heard counteracting religion, and Dharma in some sense, esp vedanta and most parts of dharma would agree with most of his analysis, but rather than being it being an irrational delusion, it comes from the core of all living beings, the want to go back to its original form, what Freud calls that ocean, which he sees as relating to childhood need, is acc the childhood need of all living beings for eternity, so in some sense he is right, but it isnt a delusion acc to Sanatan Dharma. Coming back to my main argument (my apologies) is that in the east, these saints and mystics exist to this day, in the west the number is very low, but here is a place (east) where these sons of gods are being regulary produced, and a lot of these experiences, and their miracles, is very very hard for one to explain through just the lenses people like Freud and Nietczhe use, its impossible. An example, Freud compares this to dreams, but hey, when one wakes up from a true spiritual experience, one doesnt remain the same, the outside and the personality changes for the better, thayts the difference between true meditation progress, true bhakti, true jnana etc... it isnt like sleep or dreams, as in sleep acc to dharma you do go back to that eternal reality, the brahman, but it is like psychedelics, you come out of it normal (in psychedelics its temporary), nothing really changes, even in psychedelics its only philosophical concepts that changes for the most part, true change isnt there, thats the difference, and people like freud idt have heard this argument ive put forth which in the east people put forth, thus my point that if they have looked into the east and these sorts of arguments, their view on "religion" (even tho dharma isnt religion, its religious philosophy to some sense as theres an extraordinary and supernatural) would be very different.
We have some Saints in the west. St. John of San Francisco, St. Herman of Alaska, St. Innocent of Alaska, St. Olga of Alaska, and St. Tikhon, Apostle to the West. The Orthodox Church has a pretty good number actually, with many of them having a plentitude of miraculous interactions with Westerners here.
Freud, Marx and Nietzsche can only address Christianity on a superficial level by attacking Protestantism and the softest parts of Catholicism. When Freud's argument against Christianity (which can really be an argument even against Freudianism) is thrusted upon Orthodoxy, it falls apart. The same is true for Marx and Nietzsche.
They punched as low down as they could. They seemed to always be quivering and scurrying about, hiding from the Christianity that preserved its Apostolicity for two millennia.
(I know you meant saints and what not in a more Hindu sense, but my knowledge of the thousands of Hindu sects is limited)
@@SeraphimVolker I agree with your comment 100% and I am glad that someone understands this. Traditional philosophy is metaphysics, and utilitarianists, nihilists and existentialists are part of antiphilosophy movement.
1 God as intelligent creator is the most logically feasible way of explaining the world, especially if you take into consideration that we all depend on something else for ex. oxygen, food, community, water you name it and God being the underlying sustainer of everything. Freud was just theologically illiterate and apathetic so was convenient to dismiss religion, especially since it went against his metaphysical naturalism he was into.
Are the brahmanic rituals based on philosophical servers?
@@Stefanio64 Short answer is yes.
وَإِذَا قِيلَ لَهُمْ ءَامِنُوا۟ كَمَآ ءَامَنَ ٱلنَّاسُ قَالُوٓا۟ أَنُؤْمِنُ كَمَآ ءَامَنَ ٱلسُّفَهَآءُ ۗ أَلَآ إِنَّهُمْ هُمُ ٱلسُّفَهَآءُ وَلَـٰكِن لَّا يَعْلَمُونَ
(2:13)١٣
I'm a proud kafir
@@Suyanto231إِلَـٰهُكُمْ إِلَـٰهٌۭ وَٰحِدٌۭ ۚ فَٱلَّذِينَ لَا يُؤْمِنُونَ بِٱلْـَٔاخِرَةِ قُلُوبُهُم مُّنكِرَةٌۭ وَهُم مُّسْتَكْبِرُونَ
(16:22) ٢٢
وَإِنِّى كُلَّمَا دَعَوْتُهُمْ لِتَغْفِرَ لَهُمْ جَعَلُوٓا۟ أَصَـٰبِعَهُمْ فِىٓ ءَاذَانِهِمْ وَٱسْتَغْشَوْا۟ ثِيَابَهُمْ وَأَصَرُّوا۟ وَٱسْتَكْبَرُوا۟ ٱسْتِكْبَارًۭا
(71:7)٧
صدق الله العظيم
قول محمد ابن متعة🥱
@@Suyanto231 --»
سبب إباحة نكاح المتعة ثم تحريمه
قال ابن القيم في (زاد المعاد): لم تحرم المتعة يوم خيبر، وإنما كان تحريمها عام الفتح، هذا هو الصواب، وقد ظن طائفة من أهل العلم أنه حرمها يوم خيبر، واحتجوا بما في الصحيحين من حديث علي بن أبي طالب -رضي الله عنه- أن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم «نهى عن متعة النساء يوم خيبر، وعن أكل لحوم الحمر الإنسية».
For the same reason that gambling is bet. Astronomy is gaze. And why the best thing is walk away. We enjoy talk funny.
There's a lot of people that likes to criticizing religion, especially Christianity. But i never seen no one of them refutes the proofs of the existence of God or refute the Summa Theologica of Saint Thomas Aquinas. Like Freud, he said a lot of things about religion and Christianity, but never refutes anything.
How could anyone take him serious if he cannot refutes the things that he criticize?
Or like the people who are commenting in this video: make afirmations about this and that, but never prooving, in a logic way, their afirmations. I suppose that these people, like the people in the comments and the guy who made this video, don't even know about logic or logical proofs.
Are you saying there is “proof” God exists? Where?
@@petersanders2815 You can find the proofs of the existence of God in the Summa Theologica of Saint Thomas Aquinas. (the proofs are in the First Volume, First Part, Question 2: The Existence of God).
You can easily find The Summa Theologica PDF in anywhere.
@@marcosgonzaga9499go away. Grown-ups are talking.
It is off topic, but are you planning on doing a series on, Thus Spoke Zarathustra like the ones you have done on Beyond Good And Evil, and, On the Genealogy Of Morals?
Yes, eventually. Want to do it justice wrt editing and such
Believing your gods chosen people.is cope squared
But look how effective it is. The temporaly strengh that people pull from this lie.
@@nocturnaljoe9543 berzerker rage
@@bencordell1965 We can make fun of it, but fanatism is a great tool for any kind of ruler.
@@nocturnaljoe9543 I don't understand how the promise of endless life in heaven results in people behaving so desperately on earth
@@bencordell1965 It's way more than that. It's the promise of being special from birth on. All your sins will be forgiven, anyway.
Just accept a devine entity as the total authority over your life.
Let me tell you that Jesus Christ is alive.
He is the true living savior, he is alive.
Born from a virgin, he lived a perfect life. He was crucified on Mt. Calvary. Put in a borrowed tomb, but on the third day, on God's schedule. Up from the grave he rose and he lives as our blessed hope.
Trust him. Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ.
Thou shall be safe.
Shalt*
Weltgeist can you make a video on Jung based on this book "Jung and the Making of Modern Psychology" by Shamdasani
amazing video. It has given me a new perspective.
I saw a Weltgeist new vid. I click like first, listen later.
ThkY my brother. dan t. Palm Springs , Calif . USA
There is a great essey called "Bulverism" by C S Lewis (audio form also free on youtube, under 10 minutes), a great material about this topic. Highley recommended. If you want more material check out the book "the problem of pain" by the same author.
Hello Weltgeist, this might be a long shot in the dark, but here goes.
I want to get into Carl Gustav Jung, so what would be a few books of his as starters for understanding his psychology?
Cheers!
Memories, Dreams, Reflections
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@@cgyh68748eternalised, horses, pursuit of wonder
oh, Freud! nice, great video.
have you read bataille by any chance? influenced strongly by precisely nietzsche, freud, marx and others like sade and hegel. theory of religion, the accursed share and erotism are among my favourite reads of all literature
The problem with Freud’s assessment with science is that it doesn’t provide a spiritual comfort for some people. It is as Nietzsche states that it is a form of nihilism as well because then the world is devoid of meaning. For some people, they can possess an absolutist view which helps them cope with this reality. However, for many others this includes non-religious people as well, something higher is needed to bring meaning to their existence. That’s why many people seek political ideologies, etc because it provides with a type of philosophical suicide but in exchange it provides them with a “moral” compass to fill the vacuum.
Ricœur liked to paddle his own canoës
One of the core principles of Christianity is free will. God doesn't make anyone do anything, He wants us to participate in His life. If you want to have non-marital sex above having a relationship with God, go ahead. If you want to put money before anything else, go ahead! If you want to be envious or vengeful or any of the vices, GO AHEAD! If you put that before God, you can do it, but God reveals to us that our actions, as it turns out, have observable, empirically verifiable consequences. Some are obvious, other are much more subtle; some take generations for their fruits to ripen, but they always come true.
The rules of Christianity are there to protect man from his own fallen nature. His proclivity to hurt himself by hurting others or polluting his body and mind. Its the catch 22 that the All Mighty puts Himself through willfully. If He just puts everything in right order by force, the game that He loves so much is over, but if He doesn't step in, many of His beloved children will refuse to play the game, or never be taught the rules. So He conspires to guide us towards Himself, slowly, mysteriously, where we *can choose* to doubt, or choose to trust, but there's always a choice to be mature, and accept reality, or deny it, and live in your lazy, neurotic self-deceptive cope we call atheism.
@@tiger04Funny how atheist become Calvinist and truly believe that there is a God preventing them from Free Will and believing everything is predestined by the Atheist God that is predestination through genetics. The atheist who doesn’t believe in Fee Will believes he has no choice and was predestined to post on TH-cam.
exactly@@tiger04
we do not believe anything. empirical evidence shows that there is no "you" to control. there is no "i" that exists. there is no one single point in where anyone ultimately exists. atheists do not worship genetics, or evolution...they study it - question it. Atheists reject "belief" as a concept altogether; as faith is just convincing yourself of something, but without the necessary means to justify *why* you believe such a thing. According to what physics and well - The Universe shows us: everything is predetermined. It is not a "God" we reject belief in all things; and simply seek out the truth. science is not a belief nor an objective "thing"...all it is - is a method of observing what happens in our universe and reality in a sound, non-biased, peer reviewed, repeated way.
I understand that as a religious person it is difficult to grasp the fact that you are predisposed to your own conditions...and that you are not the center of the universe, but i challenge you to open your mind and think outside of the box for once. but wait; you cannot - your environment and your genetics already limit you from seeing around the fisheye you have encapsulated yourself within. i know you will not change and think about life in a more logical state - because your brain is already out of balance chemically in one way or another. you cannot think "freely" because thinking is done by a part of the brain; which is connected to another part of the brain connected to another part of the body and so on and so forth. meaning you cannot control how you think because at the end of the day: everything is connected. there is no "you". your personality and behavior is forever changing by the forces of the Universe and you have no control over it. you cannot stop it. like the other person said (and they are correct); our brains have evolved to soothe us by giving us the illusion of free will and ability to choose exactly what we do - which helps calm us in times of stress when our brains are overworking questions too complicated for us to answer.
it all comes down to this: your biology (yes the physical world is the only "world" that exists, there are other dimensions - but they are still physical, energy is physical, everything we can perceive and measure are physical. there is no "spirit realm". there are only greater physical dimensions.), the environment while your brain was developing, and the social circumstances you are subject to now. there is nothing you can do to change this fact and to make sure you do not freak out your brain creates the illusion that your personality and emotions are a fixed vessel - separate from your body; when the truth is that they are one in the same. reality itself is a series full of illusions.
if you have free will - then why don't you find my location - come over and fly like superman to me; and then pull a train out of your shoe. if "jesus" could do it then you can. i also find it hilarious that after reading the bible; "jesus" was a lot more communist/socialist than christians like to admit. it's incredible how delusional the human brain can become.
i know i won't change your mind - because if i could then free will would exist. so i do not expect you to respond very productively to this comment...although i cannot blame you because again; you have no choice over what you believe in or what you do or think or feel or know.
another example; if free will is real - then how were you born? you don't remember being a baby even, memories don't form that young. why didn't you just "choose" to be born in the most attractive body, or in a family of billionaires...? yeah. no answer to that one. LOL.
last thing; this is only an exercise of thought - not meant to offend you so please don't go all paranoid schizophrenic on me.
good day.
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@@tiger04do you have a choice to strike a man on the street or not? If the free will was a mere illusion, there wouldn't be a judicial system in place to begin with. Monkey don't have courts. But humans are not animals. We hold others accountable for their actions. We wouldn't be able to do so if people's actions were a byproduct of their brain chemical reactions.
@@Alphacheesehuntercheck Dr. James Tour on abiogenesis
A bit weird that god was always depicted as an old man.. hmm
you arent smart
@@thug588 true
religion will eventually fade when we remove our selves from the horrors of the real world
14:08 Nice Nietzsche reference ;)
Religion reveals the nature of the fundamental substance of the universe. Not knowing it would cause endless pain like dropping a brick on your toe! The choice is yours.
You can't make errors unpunished.
This is true but technology sure can limit or lessen the consequences of bad decisions
This video reminded me why I largely dislike Freud and Marx so much. A lot of Iain McGhilcrest's work seems to indicate that that the manner in which Freud and Marx looked at the word was a highly abstract, left-brained mechanism of 'things' -- which sees the world as fundamentally dead and inert at it's 'truest nature'. According to McGhilcrest, much of modern man actually functions as though it is damaged in the right hemisphere now, and I find that deeply concerning.
I don't have an issue with slicing up the world and viewing it as mechanistic; but I have an issue with rather arrogantly/condescendingly presuming that it is the only correct way to view things. One can also look at the world through a perspective such as Alfred North Whitehead's -- in which Beingness/reality is fundamentally fluid, organic and alive. Why is that any less valid a perspective?
9:40 Contrary to what Freud thought, most religious people don't always feel as they 'gain control' over reality when they attain that feeling of oneness -- on the contrary, many describe feelings of surrendering to God (or the universe) and are actually just at greater peace.
So Freud and Marx were gnostics masquerading as atheists
The term he uses is “delusion”, for which he meant there could be no proof. Not that it was false.
I envy people who are able to believe in something. It must be magical to be able to imagine a being that can do things we haven't seen yet. It's like magic... and I love magic.
I myself don't believe in a god, even though I sometimes wonder if my life would be better with, or without one. It doesn't matter though, you can still suffer no matter what you believe in. It's better to make the best of it. But to each their own
does it matter if you don't believe? Say, your enemy believes in a god or satan, and he believes god or satan has chosen him and his similars for a reason, say to dominate over the other men whom they call "cattle", and the land you live on is his because god said so. Would you call such a person a mad man and delusional?
@@roberthak3695 Weird question. If someone pisses me off, I would call them all kinds of things. But people can believe what they want. If I tell them not to, I wouldn't be better than the people who want to convert me
Just because you dont believe in God doesnt mean you dont believe in anything If that was the Case and you truly dont believe in anything whats stopping you from lying, Killing ,stealing?
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All humans certainly believe in something, I believe that Thanos' motivation is stupid, for example.
Not killing however doesn't have to be a belief, you can believe that killing is bad, but what actually stops you from killing might not be the belief itself, but your instincts.
@@Dexuz and where do insticts Come from?
Deleuze and Guattari would disagree
Overall a very good video, the mentioning of the advancement in civilization is remarkable, so maybe thanks to religion we made collective advancements in morality and ethics, however, today religion may be holding some of us back from advancing morally, more specifically religious fundamentalists
Could be. Then again there could be lessons the ancients learned that we have forgotten and now take for granted and will have to learn all over again.
When will you release the thus spoke zarathustra vid
Great video! What would Dostoyevsky say about the need for religion? I guess it would be something like 12:56. Where it all brings us together to the same morals and doesn't have us playing god like someone who axes an old lady because he sees her unfit in this world.
Seems like taken from “nine theories of religion”
On point.
Glad to see you venture into Freudian territory. Would love to see you tackle more 20th century french stuff too
Its still good for other people to believe.
Of course it is cope. Life is something that everyone has to cope with religious or not.
There are other ways to justify what religion usually justifies (the how and why of the universe), why wouldn't the human mind just use those instead of religion? or use facts and logic?
It’s why or why not I choose not
All societies have myths. Some of them just happen to take the form of religions. Even if we take it to be a delusion,it is one we cannot live without.
Not true. It is most definitely possible to live and have a society without religion. It would more than likely be more peaceful as a whole without, as well.
@croaton07 That's a good tired lie. The instinctional desire and search for the Divine and higher complete existence always brings about worship by any other name. Even merely of the self, of habit, or otherwise. Those who don't recognize that are themselves the truly religiously enslaved.
"Cope historical ignoramus."
People create an imaginary world to live in to avoid the truth.The cunning use this to herd the masses.
yeah like a certain ethnicity/religion in the middle east who uses their delusional beliefs to justify gen0c1de, and also a supremacist racially homogeneous state but on the other countries where they dominate all media, they push "diversity" propaganda
I like how I perceive myself to be partaking in the movement of the geist around the question of religion through the neural network of the internet. This could just be my echo chamber but I don't think it is, I think it's a broader expanse of consciousness. Come to think of it, that's what your channel is about.
Jung when?
Anything can be a religion. Marxism can be a religion. Maybe theology and God is what you have beef with
Marxism cannot be a Religion IT IS a Religion
13:30 How is going that? The idea of human progress and this faith of cience has failed.
@@sameerrana9285 Saint Thomas Aquinas thought that. But that kind of science is gone.
@@sameerrana9285 Science can't do that but most cientists believe that
No they don't. What you call "scientists" are "middle level" midwits who propagandize what you think of as science. Top scientist, those that actually discover stuff, have firmly believed in God, be it islamic scientists or christian. @@hel803
Stephen C. Meyer has an interesting compilation of such scientists in his book "The Return of GOD Hypothesis" (havent read it yet though!)
JESUS loves you all may you see his true living light one day, though some may think we believe as a cope we believe with faith, logic, reason, historical basis, evidence, arguments etc please make sure you know GOD before you try and judge him and his people for you are his people yourselves and salvation awaits you through JESUS Christ ✝️‼️
Freud!! Wow, nice
In my culture . In Mexico. That’s the eye of god. The square eye on the cover of the book. The image seems to depict some sort of Asian mystic.
I find more comfort in knowing there is no God, that I won't suffer for eternity, and that my conscious will eventually rest in peace.
I don't accept Freud as being my father figure.
Religion is a path. Not a Protection.
Now do Jung
Please, quit being a Reddit Athiest. 2,000 Years worth of Theology debunked every single arguement.
Now i know why the brain is working at 10% when you're on psylsibin, ketamine or LSD,. You're back as a child yet stangely closer to the earth and god from whence you came. Very little disassociation from the 'nothing' from where you came. The universe is possible infinite yet 'nothing' can not be found.
Believing in god and religion are not the same thing.
Freud is a philosophaster who used science as a crutch.
He is of his father, the father of lies, the prince of this world.
Thus spake the Creator
I am 14 and this is deep
You're 14. Everything feels deep 😂
But you are not really 14 are you?
@@Kar-Kan i am 14, and this video is very deep
I'm 54 and it ain't that deep. It's really shallow actually. All humans are. Just watch human behavior. Kardashians and endless vapid nonsense. Corporate advertising and marketing. Religion.
"It's all bullsh!t, and it's bad for you" - George Carlin
The true "meaning of life" is a Monty Python movie.
I advise you at your young age to do not waste your youth on this religion. Go collect collector cards and play video games, but don't waste your youth on that religion. You you will regret it.
It must be said for a man like Sigmund Freud who was wrong about everything he ever said his influence is quite large. Let that be good hope for all of us. And that applies equally to Marx.
Pervert who did too much coke 😊
Daddy issues.
Just yesterday I was looking for videos explaining Civilization and its Discontents
So, it means(to him, Freud) that Religion surge when humans eyesight the immensurable nature of the universe and try to respond with God for creating this unsolved problem, am i right?
To use Buddhism in this though? Now I don't consider any non-theist like Buddhism as a religion. More a Philosophy which surprise, Religion is not either.
I always say believing that multiverse where marvel, anime characters exist is better than believing in stupid religion at least it doesn't causes violence, abuse,wars, delusion on people
I envy anyone who can find meaning and happines through religion.
Same
Why can't you too?
I think an atheist envies a theist the same way a teetotaler envies an alcoholic. One must cross the barrier of distaste of alcohol before becoming an alcoholic just like an atheist must cross the rationality of thought before becoming a theist.
I'm an orthodox christian, and a good one by today's standards, it's just that I feel demoralised, like there is no meaning for anything I do in life.
@@patriot5550 do you really on man's understanding of the universe did God not show how insignificant our mind is in the expanse of the universe . Rely on God not on yourself
Please create a Weltgeist book club !
All living beings, are nothing but a bundle of nerves, that is capable of memories, and some logic, very similar to a computer! When we live, we acumilate information, then process it and store it, for later revival. Each individual is different because the input information is different, even identical twins! So we over estimate that humans are superior, we have souls, that carries forward even after death! Not so, death kills all our memories! My argument is, if we live with this concept in our minds, we don't need religion to console us, about the fear of death. However, I also fear death! Maybe, my upbringing, made sure that I should fear death.
Cientism is masochist. You have disgraced yourself. A Machine afraid of death, an animal, a computer, a information storage, bundle of nerves.
We are methaphysical animals
why do you trust your judgments if your brain didn't evolve to fit the universe?
Why is the universe so intelligible?
A computer can only do these things because it's made in our image, but who made us?
@@Anhedonxia Why do you think all questions do have answers? Why ONE is One?
Lol imagine unironically believing in materialism
To the believers... their divine 'father figure' has chosen to play a game.
With the hordes of little ones in 'the human herd' that supposedly look 'a bit like him'.
That game is life ...and 'life' is purely a test to show your devotion to him.
Get through the test ( three score and ten years ) and you can spend eternity,
squatting in his awe-inspiring glow. That's it, there is no more to it.
The whole of life is an illusion... there is no pain, or suffering. It was only a game.
( Similar to how a lot of people now theorise 'play with' with the idea of the world,
being a computer simulation )
This is how the Abrahamic religions see the underlying nature of reality.
As a God given test. Everything else is semantics. You either chose to accept this,
or you won't. Generally, only a very small minority of the herd think this is all nonsense.
But the vast majority of the herd need it, they desperately need the conclusion it offers.
The ability to be absolutely right about the true nature of reality and that life is eternal.
Both of these dispel, or at least subdue… the curse of human anxiety.
This is what all humans instinctively and unanimously require.
A complete release from 'mortal' anxiety. Atheists should understand this.
But like children they fight it, as if they would fight a parent for trying to overly protect them.
Yet they have to realise they are the outlier. They're out of touch with the 'majority',
herd mentality.
Whether they're devoid of normal herd-like levels of emphatic empathy,
or just righteously belligerent iconoclasts.They must realise they're the noisy minority.
And in many ways... both of these atheist subgroups should consider themselves,
psychologically abnormal. For it is normal to believe in fanciful myths,
and stories of ever lasting life.
It is and always will be the default setting. It's what they implicitly need to function.
Many things in life persist because they're 'tried and tested'.
Because they're absolutely essential tools for the mental well-being of the herd.
A computational biologist, Jack Wathey, has taken these ideas further, with his book - 'The Illusion of God's Presence', religious imagery is full of paternalistic motifs, highlighting the need for a super-parent as source of comfort.
Sounds interesting, I’ll check it out
@WeltgeistYT definitely worth a read or five.
That’s stupid. Freud saying people feel this oceanic feeling , this feeling of eternity, this feeling of something beyond… is simply a subjective desire to control a scary, hostile, foreign place … how does he know that is true? How does he know that is why that feeling is there? How does he know that God did not place that feeling there for a reason?
The feeling of eternity was placed there by God.
Ecclesiastes 3:11 God has set eternity in the human heart.
This video, in contrast, is most certainly not a cope 😂
Deus está morto e nós carregamos o seu corpo
Christ is King
"mY woRld vIew is riGht yoU filThy ChrIstiaN" 🤓
The shitty thing is that we all going to die. No matter how much we do philosophy. The reason stops when people seduce them selves into believing that they are going to heaven even if they know in their heart's that it isn't true. It's the same mechanisms that a alcoholic has when he thinks that it somehow will work out. Even if he looses his ability to walk after a long period of heavy drinking he still insist.
Quit being a reddit athiest.
I came to Christ not because i felt scared of this world; if anything i was enjoying myself way too much only to see just how destructful that way of living was at the end. God met me where i was. He had been waiting for me for a long time: He is faithful even if we aren't. He is loving. He died for me knowing that id betray Him and yet, He still willingly laid His life down for me. It is true: the kind of peace that Christ gives one transcends all understanding. I recommend checking from New age to Jesus testimonies. It's beautiful ❤❤❤
Freud's assumption as articulated here of us being inclined towards "bloodlust" is actually a variation of the Christian "original sin". We know today that as social creatures we are born hard-wired with empathy, and are naturally inclined towards things such as compassion and altruism. To not feel empathy is a major pathology.
Human beings are beings that worship. The defining feature of humanity. And if you do not worship something supernatural, bigger than ourselves, divine, then you will worship the profane and worldly. Money, drugs, products. I'm convinced that Sigmund Freud has been elevated to his status as it means of disconnecting man from his humanity
I don't worship anything, and am good, my mind is mine only ,I live with what I was created with by the creator, creator's attributes, nothing more nothing less,
Good 👍
If the supernatural doesn't exist, then worshipping it is worse than worshipping money, as money actually exists.
I give it to Jesus . Means I Give Up .
The Christian believes in Christ because a) Jesus walked on this earth and called Himself God; b) predicted His own death and resurrection, stating that He will raise Himself from death; c) Biblical prophesies came true and one of them was Christ was crucified despite not being guilty; c) a real encounter with God, who subsequently takes out a person's and gives them a new one and their whole life is transformed: there is literally before and after in their life where God restores one area at a time; since He is God of order and not confusion.
I get dumbfounded every time a person tries, who has no idea of what Christ taught and what it meant, trying to explain other unbelievers what Christians believe
Intergenerational trauma is a robust mechanism to explain religion, one which is reinforced with Darwin's theory of evolution.
In this cruel world religion is the best cure against depression, mental illness etc., you want to take that away from me ?, 👋🏼 I say bye bye love, bye bye happiness
How are u gonna be happy if you are not even sure religion exists? Or are u gonna just believe. I'd rather face truth and not be a scared person than cope.
@@kingearth3672 Dear Kings Earth, I strongly believes that our soul Passover to another universe, that we leaves our body and Passover to a non physical dimension when I leave my body. Doing good things, to be loving, caring gives a better "after life" ❤️. I am content with my life because I believe in a loving creator and being a good person will help me in the next life, billions believe as I do, catholic, Muslims, protestants, etc. believe the same; we have one creator who is our master, and we have command grounds, it gives us peace in our mind and soul. Why will non believers not leave us alone, let us keep our beliefs, as we leave atheists, scientists and business people to their beliefs. Real religions want only peace. I am talking about TRUE believers, not the fake ones who only want power and money . So many fake information, follow the bible or Koran, not the priest, not the news... Even if I am wrong, my belief gives me peace.....historically Christianity has lifted humanity to a better life, it separates us from being animals. Hope you understand what I mean.... Thanks for your remark.
@@kingearth3672how can you still believe in atheism when you see what followed in its wake? Believe me brother, only those peoples who maintain their traditional faith in God will survive. Atheism and Liberalism are self refuting ways of life.
@@NorthernObserver religion is self refuting, its evil and for me, destroys freedom. And if people are using religion to be good but are bad people if religion didn't exist then they are still bad at heart and only good due to fear of religion. And not being religious doesn't make u an evil person. Being good or bad depends on the person. And people will choose to be religious or not religious based on their own feelings so people who were good only thanks to religious fear turning evil when they stopped being religious can't really be helped cause that's who they truly were. Again, whatever followed after religion is due to PEOPLE THEMSELVES, atheism doesn't say to do whatever you mean by "followed in its wake." Also again, we can't really stop people from being evil due to them stopping being religious as it's up to their feelings to be religious or not so it's not atheism' s fault they became evil but their own nature. And wdym u need religion to survive, no u don't if u are strong or want to be truly strong which would mean u would not use religion to "survive."
Religion IS a belief system
I like your stuff, but this approach to this subject is rather dated. It does not help us to face today as it is.
Discarded for reason…who exactly is reasonable. Human intelligence is overrated.