2:139 Say, “Would you dispute with us about Allah, while He is our Lord and your Lord? We are accountable for our deeds and you for yours. And we are devoted to Him ˹alone˺. 2:140 Do you claim that Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and his descendants were all Jews or Christians?” Say, “Who is more knowledgeable: you or Allah?” Who does more wrong than those who hide the testimony they received from Allah? And Allah is never unaware of what you do.
It really was not one of his best days for argumentation😅 However he did still manage to stand form on his beliefs. The Muslim had to use circular reasoning at the end.
@ismail9134 that is not true at all. The original manuscripts are freely accessible. If you compare the manuscripts, you will notice that the only slight differences are the placements of certain words or letters in the grammatical order. With the aid of computer software you can evaluate each of the sentences and you can see that the words are a perfect match!
@ismail9134 there are some insignificant differences in the modern translations and there are even false versions of the bible. If you compare your particular version to the the manuscripts, you can find out which bible is a correct representation of the one and only true manuscripts of it
Muslims claim the Koran is the word of their god, but they should find out the history, how it was gathered from scraps, and destroyed by Uthman, and some of it was added to by other people, and how it teaches contradictions such as the different versions of creation, or the claim that Mary mother of Jesus was the sister of Miriam and Aaron! The Koran says the earth is flat, that a woman makes sperm, that there were only nine plagues on Egypt, and many other mistakes.
What ment to people have to have faith in Jesus and God if you want your soul to be saved and you need to treat man as he were your brother and you have spread the word of God and live by the word of God amen 🙏
Well he did respond to the guy's statement. The bible was created out of 21k manuscripts which all aggree on a congruent story. The fact that the quran was written in its' original language does neither prove nor disprove anything. Pretty much any dude could say that ever holy book before him was corrupted and that he speaks the truth. The bible warns us of such false prophets in Matthew 7:15 :) All the muslim did was repeat this one statement over and over again, which is why cliffe had to interrupt the pointless conversation
@SeekersOfChristus But he had alote of good other puns. For example jesus said he isnt god in Mark 10 and Luke 18, he says, 'Why do you call me good? No one is good but God alone, There are so many mistakes in the bible beacuse it is really handwritten by people but as the young man says in the video the Quran is preserved to Muhammed S.A.W Peace be upon him, even if you try to say Muhammed S.A.W Peace be upon him is a false prophet that just wrote a ´´fake version of the bible´´ how come Quran has so many science that is correct, and quick reminder the Quran is the only scientifically proven holy book.
@@modabber-i5v bro in that verse Jesus never denied being good, he simply wants to make the man think about him more deeply. Read verse 29 of Mark 10. Literally a few verses after yours , jesus tells the man to follow HIM (implying that he is god). The quran predicts a lot of science because it is easy to copy from other sources (including the Bible) , so the scince arguments does neither prove nor disprove the situation
@SeekersOfChristus What sources? The Bible was not a source it was a handwritten book as i said, and the Quran was actually preserved if Quran copied the Bible as a source why is the Quran the only scientifically proven book, you´re missing the point here Mark 10 Luke 18 is defintely not the only error in the Bible and the Bible doesn´t have as much science as the Quran. also if quran is scientifically proven then other sources also should be right? well they aren´t beacuse for the last time the Quran is preserved to Muhammed S.A.W Peace be upon him.
@SeekersOfChristus What sources? The bible is handwritten as i said and Mark 10 and Luke 18 isn´t the only mistake in you´re bible since there are many more, The Quran is really different from the bible trust me have you ever heard of Abrahamic religions, Christianity and Islam is Abrahamic so the prophets are similair but the Quran is really different, so the quran never copied from the bible nor other ´sources´ if we did then the bible and the other sources would also be scientifically proven but they aren´t,
The argument in this video is basically about why the Bible isn't preserved in the language that Jesus spoke and I as a 16 year old boy(Indian) would like to say something. First of all,yes,Jesus spoke Aramaic.When Jesus was ascending to heaven he said to spread the message worldwide. Unfortunately the whole world didn't have only one language and that is why there are Bibles with different languages.
But Qur'an Sharif was revealed to PROPHET MUHAMMAD SALLALLAHU ALAIHI WASALLAM was in Arabic and still we have Arabic language and lots of muslims all around the world read the Qur'an Sharif in original language Arabic and most of muslim are Qur'an Hafiz all over the world they can recite Qur'an Sharif orally but not in case of gospel bcoz it's was revealed in Aramaic but today no gospel or Bible is available in Aramaic and no christian pastor can recite Bible orally there is no original gospel or Bible but there is original Qur'an Sharif with original language and muslims recite it orally and very easily but christian don't and that's the answer of your point and claim
@@Zac.Farnsworth It's not only about memorizing but it's also in its original form and languages we have oldest Qur'an Sharif in Birmingham University and you can compare it with today's Qur'an Sharif and you will find it preserved and accurate but not in the case of Bible or gospel the original gospel that was revealed to PROPHET JESUS CHRIST PBUH is no where to found today and the Bible we have today is in Greek not the Aramaic so where is the original Bible or gospel that is revealed to PROPHET JESUS CHRIST PBUH and is in Aramaic language ?
Debating with minors and childrens doesn't make you smart everytime 😂😂😂 at one point there comes a time and movement when a very intelligent minor or a child that oversmart you and make you look dumb in front of everybody and that's was really happened with this cliffe he messed with wrong child this time 😂😂😂and got totally destroyed in his own game 😂his logic and his presentation was wasted in front of muslims this time, he thought that debating with students and children in college would make him smart and intelligent everytime but this one debate destroyed his whole career that he's gonna make out of it 😂😂😂
”What we learned about Jesus is that we love him”
Yeah, thats not how it works kid.
That boy won no doubt
2:139 Say, “Would you dispute with us about Allah, while He is our Lord and your Lord? We are accountable for our deeds and you for yours. And we are devoted to Him ˹alone˺.
2:140 Do you claim that Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and his descendants were all Jews or Christians?” Say, “Who is more knowledgeable: you or Allah?” Who does more wrong than those who hide the testimony they received from Allah? And Allah is never unaware of what you do.
Bro cliffe got cooked😂
It really was not one of his best days for argumentation😅
However he did still manage to stand form on his beliefs. The Muslim had to use circular reasoning at the end.
this literally shows Cliffe getting "destroyed". He cannot prove or answer why the bible is not corrupted yet Muslims can with the Quran.
how would you prove that the bible is corrupted?
@SeekersOfChristus multiple versions with different verses. a carbon dated bible from 1300 yeas ago is different to the ones today
@ismail9134 that is not true at all. The original manuscripts are freely accessible. If you compare the manuscripts, you will notice that the only slight differences are the placements of certain words or letters in the grammatical order. With the aid of computer software you can evaluate each of the sentences and you can see that the words are a perfect match!
@ismail9134 there are some insignificant differences in the modern translations and there are even false versions of the bible. If you compare your particular version to the the manuscripts, you can find out which bible is a correct representation of the one and only true manuscripts of it
Muslims claim the Koran is the word of their god, but they should find out the history, how it was gathered from scraps, and destroyed by Uthman, and some of it was added to by other people, and how it teaches contradictions such as the different versions of creation, or the claim that Mary mother of Jesus was the sister of Miriam and Aaron! The Koran says the earth is flat, that a woman makes sperm, that there were only nine plagues on Egypt, and many other mistakes.
Just put a question to learn not to win.
What ment to people have to have faith in Jesus and God if you want your soul to be saved and you need to treat man as he were your brother and you have spread the word of God and live by the word of God amen 🙏
Cliffe defintely lost, what do you mean.
Well he did respond to the guy's statement. The bible was created out of 21k manuscripts which all aggree on a congruent story. The fact that the quran was written in its' original language does neither prove nor disprove anything. Pretty much any dude could say that ever holy book before him was corrupted and that he speaks the truth. The bible warns us of such false prophets in Matthew 7:15 :)
All the muslim did was repeat this one statement over and over again, which is why cliffe had to interrupt the pointless conversation
@SeekersOfChristus But he had alote of good other puns. For example jesus said he isnt god in Mark 10 and Luke 18, he says, 'Why do you call me good? No one is good but God alone, There are so many mistakes in the bible beacuse it is really handwritten by people but as the young man says in the video the Quran is preserved to Muhammed S.A.W Peace be upon him, even if you try to say Muhammed S.A.W Peace be upon him is a false prophet that just wrote a ´´fake version of the bible´´ how come Quran has so many science that is correct, and quick reminder the Quran is the only scientifically proven holy book.
@@modabber-i5v bro in that verse Jesus never denied being good, he simply wants to make the man think about him more deeply. Read verse 29 of Mark 10. Literally a few verses after yours , jesus tells the man to follow HIM (implying that he is god). The quran predicts a lot of science because it is easy to copy from other sources (including the Bible) , so the scince arguments does neither prove nor disprove the situation
@SeekersOfChristus What sources? The Bible was not a source it was a handwritten book as i said, and the Quran was actually preserved if Quran copied the Bible as a source why is the Quran the only scientifically proven book, you´re missing the point here Mark 10 Luke 18 is defintely not the only error in the Bible and the Bible doesn´t have as much science as the Quran. also if quran is scientifically proven then other sources also should be right? well they aren´t beacuse for the last time the Quran is preserved to Muhammed S.A.W Peace be upon him.
@SeekersOfChristus What sources? The bible is handwritten as i said and Mark 10 and Luke 18 isn´t the only mistake in you´re bible since there are many more, The Quran is really different from the bible trust me have you ever heard of Abrahamic religions, Christianity and Islam is Abrahamic so the prophets are similair but the Quran is really different, so the quran never copied from the bible nor other ´sources´ if we did then the bible and the other sources would also be scientifically proven but they aren´t,
The argument in this video is basically about why the Bible isn't preserved in the language that Jesus spoke and I as a 16 year old boy(Indian) would like to say something.
First of all,yes,Jesus spoke Aramaic.When Jesus was ascending to heaven he said to spread the message worldwide.
Unfortunately the whole world didn't have only one language and that is why there are Bibles with different languages.
But Qur'an Sharif was revealed to PROPHET MUHAMMAD SALLALLAHU ALAIHI WASALLAM was in Arabic and still we have Arabic language and lots of muslims all around the world read the Qur'an Sharif in original language Arabic and most of muslim are Qur'an Hafiz all over the world they can recite Qur'an Sharif orally but not in case of gospel bcoz it's was revealed in Aramaic but today no gospel or Bible is available in Aramaic and no christian pastor can recite Bible orally there is no original gospel or Bible but there is original Qur'an Sharif with original language and muslims recite it orally and very easily but christian don't and that's the answer of your point and claim
Memorizing something doesent validate it’s the word of God
@@Zac.Farnsworth
It's not only about memorizing but it's also in its original form and languages we have oldest Qur'an Sharif in Birmingham University and you can compare it with today's Qur'an Sharif and you will find it preserved and accurate but not in the case of Bible or gospel the original gospel that was revealed to PROPHET JESUS CHRIST PBUH is no where to found today and the Bible we have today is in Greek not the Aramaic so where is the original Bible or gospel that is revealed to PROPHET JESUS CHRIST PBUH and is in Aramaic language ?
People have to have in god and Jesus christ if you want your soul to be saved 🙏 amen..
Amen to that!
Debating with minors and childrens doesn't make you smart everytime 😂😂😂 at one point there comes a time and movement when a very intelligent minor or a child that oversmart you and make you look dumb in front of everybody and that's was really happened with this cliffe he messed with wrong child this time 😂😂😂and got totally destroyed in his own game 😂his logic and his presentation was wasted in front of muslims this time, he thought that debating with students and children in college would make him smart and intelligent everytime but this one debate destroyed his whole career that he's gonna make out of it 😂😂😂
Logic always wins allahu akbar