I think this series would make more sense if we were criticizing dedicated listening rooms. These just seem like pictures of people doing their best with what they have. They still have to live in their houses and most people would choose to keep their coffee tables.
A lot of people don't even have an empty little 10x12 spare bedroom with an 8 foot ceiling to dedicate to a chair and two speakers in 5 or 6 foot equilateral triangle near-field setup.
With what they have while owning big gear so it's still informative. Like not putting a coffee table right in front of the listening position. I think it's better to help casuals to have better listening sessions than those with dedicated rooms that probably know what's up.
There are things that you can and can not do regardless of the system design and use. Don't ever place anything in front of a speaker. Don't place speakers against the wall unless your trying to hear the wall instead of the speaker. Stay away always from glass.
@1:43 -- Those speakers are pointed outward. That is terrible. I have never seen anyone do that. As to the table... It is hard to have a dedicated listening room. Tables are bound to be in almost everyone's listening room. If they tossed a towel or blanket over it, that would probably help. I have a table in my listening room (my living-room). I have room treatments, which work great. I never considered my table to be an issue. I will have to toss a towel over it and see if I hear an improvement.
Yep. Incredible how some people spend on highend gear then limit the sound quality with compressed Spotify. Instead, it's much better to use a lossless streaming source like Apple Music.
once you are at a certain distortion/roomacoustic level you will notice that mp3 actually sounds distorted/unpleasent compared to lossless, i literally cant listen to mp3 more than 5 minutes while i can listen to flac no end
Yes. as the room resolution increases, the source resolution becomes more critical. Our goal is to bring the resolution of the room at least equal to the resolution of the gear. This would be our 80% room resolution goal number.
@@AcousticFields Interesting. May I ask what benefits any additional room resolution above 80% would then provide at that point? Or perhaps you assume a fairly "standard quality" setup, as a reference for 80%?
My favorite one (client): Nice size room, great gear, some treatment... Crystal Chandelier (large) in middle of room client says: "What do you think about the Diffuser?" It was extremely difficult not to belt out WTF...
@@AcousticFieldsThat would be accurate if the Active Treatment didn't integrate and monitor the music and do equal phase cancellations The lower Octave is more difficult that's where I need to pay for your expertise definitely more spurious at the lower end
A good tip in life - if you can do it - is to marry (or partner up with or whatever) a person who shares your major interests in life as far as recreation and leisure. That way you won't have your other half balking at your setting up a well-designed dedicated listening room, and you won't be balking at their upcoming ski boat purchase.
LOL I am in the process of changing my setup to conform to your principles. The consultant and I discuss you and your advice. 'Coffee table has to go' was the last thing he told me.
I think this series would make more sense if we were criticizing dedicated listening rooms. These just seem like pictures of people doing their best with what they have. They still have to live in their houses and most people would choose to keep their coffee tables.
A lot of people don't even have an empty little 10x12 spare bedroom with an 8 foot ceiling to dedicate to a chair and two speakers in 5 or 6 foot equilateral triangle near-field setup.
With what they have while owning big gear so it's still informative. Like not putting a coffee table right in front of the listening position.
I think it's better to help casuals to have better listening sessions than those with dedicated rooms that probably know what's up.
There are things that you can and can not do regardless of the system design and use. Don't ever place anything in front of a speaker. Don't place speakers against the wall unless your trying to hear the wall instead of the speaker. Stay away always from glass.
@1:43 -- Those speakers are pointed outward. That is terrible. I have never seen anyone do that.
As to the table...
It is hard to have a dedicated listening room. Tables are bound to be in almost everyone's listening room.
If they tossed a towel or blanket over it, that would probably help.
I have a table in my listening room (my living-room). I have room treatments, which work great. I never considered my table to be an issue. I will have to toss a towel over it and see if I hear an improvement.
I think the speakers angle of attack is ust one of many issues to address
Yep.
Incredible how some people spend on highend gear then limit the sound quality with compressed Spotify.
Instead, it's much better to use a lossless streaming source like Apple Music.
Happens more than one might think even with crazy $$$$$$$ systems.
Those people are convinced that "the ears can't tell the difference" at a certain resolution.
once you are at a certain distortion/roomacoustic level you will notice that mp3 actually sounds distorted/unpleasent compared to lossless, i literally cant listen to mp3 more than 5 minutes while i can listen to flac no end
Yes. as the room resolution increases, the source resolution becomes more critical. Our goal is to bring the resolution of the room at least equal to the resolution of the gear. This would be our 80% room resolution goal number.
@@AcousticFields Interesting. May I ask what benefits any additional room resolution above 80% would then provide at that point?
Or perhaps you assume a fairly "standard quality" setup, as a reference for 80%?
My favorite one (client): Nice size room, great gear, some treatment... Crystal Chandelier (large) in middle of room client says: "What do you think about the Diffuser?" It was extremely difficult not to belt out WTF...
A diffusor has a frequency range and a position within the room to support that frequency range. It is a tool that needs to be applied correctly.
Dude! I think you discovered a market. Audiophile coffee tables. Make a coffee table that is acoustically designed properly.
Beat me to it. Let's set up a research lab, objective: sonically transparent coffee tables
Mesh top coffee table
I already designed one.
I call it "The Floor".
@@dialecticalmonist3405 If you really can't do without something to support your cup of coffee then I would suggest "A hand ™".
A simple test for your coffee table. Take a 4" thick towel and place across the top.
All Facts !!! Rarely is the middle furniture not a negative , My living room uses active room treatment
Reflections from objects are called spurious reflections. They can not be managed with active room treatment.
@@AcousticFieldsThat would be accurate if the Active Treatment didn't integrate and monitor the music and do equal phase cancellations
The lower Octave is more difficult that's where I need to pay for your expertise definitely more spurious at the lower end
A good tip in life - if you can do it - is to marry (or partner up with or whatever) a person who shares your major interests in life as far as recreation and leisure. That way you won't have your other half balking at your setting up a well-designed dedicated listening room, and you won't be balking at their upcoming ski boat purchase.
Good advice to minimize WAF distortion.
Would it be OK to put a heavy tablecloth over the table?
just enjoy your table.
Anything is OK. However, if your goal is resolution, use a towel that is at least 4" thick.
Now we have to draw the line somewhere 😅. Ive noticed that, nothing between my speakers and Myself.
Great advise, but how many will actually do it?
None that have a shard space and a wife...
@@audiononsense1611 Haha Those Wives....I'm building a room in the basement. Unknown ETA
... Depends on monthly allowance 😜
How many do something has nothing to do with what is right for resolution. Over 100 million people still smoke.
LOL I am in the process of changing my setup to conform to your principles. The consultant and I discuss you and your advice. 'Coffee table has to go' was the last thing he told me.
His goal and our goals are different. Our goal is the ultimate in resolution which would be to remove the table completely.
I know for a fact that the table changes the sound quite dramatically.
Well said. The mids and highs will thank you.
Amazing how far off so many people are on good audio still if they would just listen to the basics Dennis has always been repeating.
The tactics become much easier to understand when you place resolution as a priority strategy