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for micolash take piosoned throwing knifes you can hit him with impunity from above with him before he walks into the arena and a will die relatively quickly
Orphan was thr hardest for me but its very close with Laurence. I can't believe you didn't struggle with Ebrietas. She was definitely one of the hardest bosses in Bloodborne.
I totally get that this is a ranking for a very specific build but... man, Ebrietas that low is truly wild. This isn't so much a ranking of how difficult the bosses are in the game, and more how well the build counters bosses.
Rather than specific build, the boss rankings are based off knowledge and playstyle taking advantage of particular exploits and then ranking bosses based off how much of a challenge they still were after an early weapon boostup
Yeah I fully disagreed with this position. His reasoning would make this video "Bloodborne bosses ranked by how cheezable they are", in which case Blood Starved Beast should be ranked easiest. Also Gasgoigne should be ranked way lower as well since he can be cheezed with the music box or by getting him stucked on the stairs. Ebrietas is by far the hardest boss in the main game for me.
@@cedricrenaud5657honestly I think a true difficulty ranking should take into account the choice to both use and not use cheese. Because it is completely fair that most people may use stuff like the music box for Gascoigne or Cocktails for BSB, but others might not. Therefore a more fair method would most likely take into account more than one playthrough for these rankings. And that's always been my biggest gripe with these lists; they're mostly ranked on a single run with a specific build type, and therefore aren't as comprehensive as they should be.
Fun tip: You can block all of Martyr Logarius' scythe attacks with the wooden shield, turning the boss fight into a cake walk. Is it boring af? Yes. Is it effective? Also, yes xD
The Chalice dungeons are worth a visit, because there’s a lot of concepts they tested out in there that would later see the light of day in future games. The Pthumerian Elder and Bloodletting Beast, in particular, are ones that any Fromsoft fan will recognize.
ahhhh bloodborne, the game where i suck vs beasts, but do great against humans, and then theres all the other fromsoft games where im great vs beasts but terrible vs humans
I only realized this about Rom in my latest playthrough, but I think she is a reimagining of the Phalanx boss fight, in the same way that The One Reborn is a reimagining of the Tower Knight fight. A large crowd of minions in her arena, which are invulnerable to damage from the front and will gang up on you if you get too deep in. A more passive required strategy where you have to circle at a distance and pick off what minions you can. Cover to prevent the ranged spam from instakilling you offscree- oh, wait, I guess they forgot that part!
I mean Bloodborne started off as a Demons Souls Sequel. Many old files reflect this. Arch Thrones to sit on, Boss Souls to collect and the Moon Phases beeing oddly similar to the World Tendency are not a coincidence! Even the Bosses are twisted Versions of what they imagined this game to be.
When I finally played DeS I loved it because I saw all the ways it's bosses evolved into modern FROM bosses and it's world was better than any of the DS Trilogy.
I honestly agree with Orphan and Laurence. I first fought Laurence to sort of ‘complete’ the dlc and get a perfect experience difficulty wise because I bought into the hype of Orphan being the hardest. I was dead wrong. If Orphan of Kos took me a couple of days to beat, Laurence took me a couple of WEEKS. He was single-handedly the hardest boss I had ever fought in Bloodborne, with only Defiled Amygdala coming close to reaching his difficulty.
ludwig is personally most well made boss over all souls game imo. well if you fight him normally, he isn’t that impressive, but i truly appreciated him once i fought him bl4 run. his attacks are very tight, but with clear tell, and every move has proper dodge mechanic, also with incredible music that goes with his attack timing. so once you learn all his moves you can dance along his attacks. it is quite fun jumping around with the music and kill him. kinda like godfrey, i think godfrey was much simpler version. anyway i wish they make more bosses like this bit more.
I feel the same way, at least about fighting him at lower levels. I used to always save the DLC for last, but now I try and fight him as early as possible, only really killing Cleric Beast, Gascoigne, Amelia, and BSB. And I love his fight even more. He is by far the best beast boss in the game, with super tight hotboxes for his size and amazingly clear tells. I wouldn't go so far to say he's the best souls boss, I still think Gael, Isshin, and maybe even Midra are probably better. No knock against the horse man though, Ludwig is still probably top 5 for me. I especially love that his two phases are very different from each other, something that only Gael has really done, and not as thoroughly as Ludwig.
Having Ebrietas that low essentially because of being able to 'cheese' her is a bit silly. If you fight her normally it's tough as hell, definitely top 5 but I'd even argue top 3. Eg everyone agrees Demon of Hatred is one of the hardest bosses in Sekiro (I'd say the hardest) but you can cheese it making it piss easy. I wouldn't then say DoH is the easiest Sekiro boss.
Orphan is my favorite fromsoft boss. He's the perfect test of your skill and abilities while being so well balanced and designed. Owl father and isshin the sword saint are close contenders (with the ladder as my fav final boss of all time)
@@Z-Mikes00 I agree that his hitboxes in the first phase are really tight overall. But the hitboxes on the placenta in the second phase are comically massive and stretch a lot farther than the actual placenta model.
When I played Bloodborne for the first time this year, I already called myself an Elden Ring vet with around 2.500 hours in that and having played through Sekiro numerous times, as well as DS3, Lies of P and Lords of the Fallen. So the gameplay wasn’t new to me, it was challenging especially as you don’t get full healing after resting. Also, it certainly helped, as I already had seen other streamers play it (cause of those videos I wanted to get the PS5, solely for this game]. Then I killed Gehrman and was stunned, that this locked me out of the DLC, which I had barely started. So I made a new character, played through it again, and really didn’t struggle against the DLC bosses that much, as Ludwig went down on try 7, Maria on 4, Orphan on my second try and believe it or not, Laurence went down first try. Then came NG+, and boy oh boy, Laurence tormented me for 2 1/2 hours. I was losing my mind, as I could not recall what I did to beat him on NG. So I absolutely agree with the top 5 tier list and Laurence as no. 1, as I never had an easy time against him ever since.
Only fought Moon Presence twice and beat it without dying both times. Granted, I kamikaze’d Gehrmann the first time so when I returned for Moon Presence I did have full blood vials again.
Maria isn’t really hard when you realize walking to the right dodges 90% of her attacks and you can just pile on damage during her phase changes which a lot of times has her going straight into the next phase. Also ludwig really needed two health bars, going into his second phase with less than half health makes such a good boss a little too easy imo.
With BSB I always tell people to use him to learn to parry, it's just as easy and effective as the PBC method and will get them ready for when it's in the dungeons where PBCs don't work on it.
Micolash’s second phase becomes a lot easier if you use the Beast Roar. Stunlock him with R1 spam then roar to knock him over and regain stamina during his get up animation. Rinse and repeat. Yes it’s cheap but so is A Call Beyond
I actually agree with most of this one. Especially the last two. He's tough as nails but one can master Shrimp Scampi. Laurence absolutely does not GAF about your stats, gear, skill, phantoms or i-frames.
Usually the "hard" bosses live up to their hype. Manus? Still absolutely terrifying to fight. Friede? Still cooks me to this day. Orphan? Get absolutely slaughtered every single time. I don't think I've *ever* struggled against Lawrence, even on my first playthrough. I'm pretty sure the most I've ever died to him in any given playthrough was like 4 times. He's just never been that much of a challenge for me idk.
Lawrence is fine on NG but is straight up unfun on later NG+ cycles because his health and damage scale to a ridiculous degree that’s far higher than anyone else in the game, Orphan included.
I actually really agree with the last two. Through all of my playthroughs of Bloodborne, first phase Kos has never killed me, second phase Kos has probably killed me 60++ times. Even still, Laurence is the one boss that has made me ragequit
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I really do hope the fact this game is going into maintenance and getting an update after so many years means something and won’t be another disappointment, I really want this amazing game to get more content in the near future.
Love that DeMod has went back and retouched some ranking videos! I’ve been so out of touch could anyone possibly tell me if he’s still streaming on twitch?
Logarius is such a weird one for me. On my first playthrough, he was such a pushover and I beat him first try where he didn’t even hit me in first phase. I was baffled that people found him difficult. Every single playthrough since then, he has whooped me and absolutely made me see why everyone finds him hard
Idk how much this qualifies as an objective difficulty ranking when it’s being judged based exclusively on one build, like no matter how you slice it Moon Presence over Ebrietas or Gehrman is a little silly
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While I might not have put Ebrietas THAT low, I think for me personally there's only been one thing about Ebrietas that makes her hard; that fucking Charge. That thing has one of the most disgusting hitboxes I've ever seen given her entire body becomes a hitbox, meaning if you get so much as brushed by a stray wing or tentacle? You get chunked. It's up there with Commander Gaius as one of the worst charge attacks in the series, IMO. Nowadays I can dodge it more consistently, but I'll not forget the many BL4 attempts that got ended by that charge.
I'm glad I'm not the only one that's had trouble with The One Reborn. So many people talk about it like it's the easiest fight in the game, but it consistently takes at least a few attempts for me on every run
It's very interesting to see your perspective on boss difficulty with your build. From what I've experienced, depending on your build some bosses can be dramatically more difficult than others based on what weapon(s) you are using, how much health you have, how much you parry, etc. I can see why you struggled more with Laurence since your build liked being midrange with the gun and Chikage (plus it didn't seem like your health was at the hard cap, which usually stops you from being 2 shot by him) and his hitboxes are pretty unforgiving. I personally still find orphan the hardest by far mostly because I suck at parrying, especially the second phase.
You can loop Micolash in an endless enter and exit out of one of the mirrors until he's dead. I kept far enough away not to aggro him and just porcupined him with my maxed out Simons Bowblade. He'll enter the mirror but comes right back out and just AFK's as long as you keep enough distance. It was kinda hilarious. 😂
There is also cheese for Micolash that you drop into the boss room before he runs in and you can trap him from going in and just beat him down. Martyr Lagarius is also a tough fight because of the Range Attack shield he has
Honestly, Lawrence is most manageable for me with the threaded cane. The extra beast damage plus the added distance that allows you to thread the needle (pun intended) of staying close with lava but far enough away to avoid stepping in it is quite helpful.
I also found out that you can parry the Living Failures in a recent playthrough, and have much more fun with the fight now. I never understood why people may think that Laurence is a hard boss. Yeah he has a lot of HP and can hit hard too, but he's also an endgame DLC boss that has a moveset identical to the first boss you can fight in the game. Dodging his attacks is not hard, and the high damage can be countered by, say, leveling Vigor. I also used to play as a glass-cannon type build for all of these games, thinking I had to prioritize my damage stat rather than health or stamina. But the truth is, you really don't. Yes, damage scaling is important, but for most early and mid parts of these games, the weapons upgrade level is more important. Especially in Bloodborne, where almost all of the gems are based on percentages of AR, so leveling your weapon up is all the more important. It makes these games a lot more fun when you level health and stamina equally across the playthrough. If you're having trouble with Laurence, i think that more so speaks to player skill rather than boss difficulty. His combos are 3-4 attacks max, his openings afterwards are massive, its very easy to strafe around him, and again he is almost identical to the first boss. And this is just a personal opinion, but i find Ludwigs 2nd phase much harder than the first. Also we need to normalize including Chalice Dungeon Bosses, they have some pretty fun bouts.
Having got the platinum trophy on Bloodborne before the release of the Old Hunters DLC, I can say that facing Laurence on NG+++ was truly the stuff of nightmares...
Some of these are wild to me, particularly how low some really hard bosses are, but I agree with the top 3 and their order. I also agree that Ludwig and Orphan are hard as a result of good design while Lawrence is arguably the hardest but in a way that feels more like unfair design features than being mechanically well designed. In his second phase it’s hard to be anywhere without taking damage. The last time I played through I took him down to almost zero and then had enough ammo left to just take him out at range as he was doing his crawling attack with half a health bar and no more healing. On my most recent battle against Orphan, I was in some kind of zen master state with parries, but it was still very hard.
this is weird, I remembered thedemodcracy voice different back in the days, this video just popped up. Went back on the OG BB reviews and his voiced did change. Seeing other youtubers age when you don't see their stuffs in years.
U should start doing rankings on specific weapon matchups vs bosses for the souls games. Example would be something like a ranking of how hard each boss is vs the moonlight greatsword or something like that (maybe even just a whole category/ buildtype, like how hard each boss is with a dex or arcane build).
Fun anecdote: the AI glitched out on my save so BSB ignored the Pungent Blood Cocktails. I still beat him after I figured out the charged heavy on transformed Hunter's Axe would actually fling him back about 20 feet.
Laurence took me 3 tries, Orphan took me 6 tries, Pthumerian descendant in the chalice dungeon took me two full days. Lost count of how many attempts 💀
Watching this after having just watched the backlogs accursed brew challenge run is funny, mostly because of how utterly he demolished the last 2 bosses on this list.
Interesting choice for #1... I know it's a personal list but Laurence is generally just a few tries for me each time compared to Orphan and Ludwig who I always spend quite some time with, I find his patterns and attacks way easier to read and get a beat on than several other bosses. Only thing that pushes him up for me is knowing how insane his damage is on the higher NG+ playthroughs.
What makes me sad about laurence is he is the hardest bloodborne boss and isn't unique in the slightest. To anyone who doesn't know, his second phase is just the moveset of the sewer zombies in central yharnam sped up. I realized it a while ago and it upsets me to no end.
I recently beat the game again, and in my run I tried to use to parry bosses as little as possible. This made me enjoy bossfight like Maria a lot more and not melt her via parry. I ran a chikage build so when I went to fight Lagarius I found him easy as I was focused on dodges instead of parry. I was confused as to how easily I beat him considering I barely scraped by on my last few runs of the game
If you are worried about cleric beast placement, don't. I first tried it as my first ever Soulsborne boss. My only prior experience was Lords of the Fallen
During my latest, and probably 20th+ play through, my favourite boss Ludwig absolutely spanked me for two days, losing countless hours of sleep! Boss experience changes, but that was my worst. And I've beaten Malenia!
Took me 6 hrs over two days to kill Orphan. Afterward I went straight to Lawrence, ready to get mulched… killed him in 3. I was flabbergasted. Guess Orphan made me get in the zone.
I feel like some of the easier bosses during my first playthrough like Amygdala and Micolash got increasingly harder to deal with in consecutive playthroughs while bosses like Vicar Amelia and Ebrietas who I used to struggle with didn't get harder at all. Especially Amygdala gave me a really hard time on ng+4 with my melee build. Laurence on the other hand will always be the bane of my existence no matter what lol
I hadnt played a soulsborne game in like 2.5 years. I got on DS3 last week and finished the ringed city on an old save. I then downloaded DS2 again and I started NG+ on an old save. I'll be done with it soon and I guess it's over to Bloodborne to beat it again lol. I gotta do something I've never done before.
I agree with the top 3 but for me the order goes: 1. Orphan of Kos - the guy literally came out of the womb with the sole purpose of skull fucking my sanity. 2. Ludwig the Accursed - the dude's first phase is insane and always fucks me harder than the taxman. 3. Laurence, the First Vicar - I don't know why, but I always breezed him easier than the other two.
funnily for me it's exactly the other way around, the only issue i ever had with kos is sometimes there's pebbles in the arena that get me stuck and make me mess my tempo, for ludwig it took me years to figure out how to fight and it's still mostly a fight i survive rather than win, and laurence just sucks, period. some years ago i recorded all the bosses after iwas at one of my peakest in skill in bloodborne and lawrence was the only one that took me longer than 3 minutes to beat, he's just not scaled properly.
Logarius is not only my #1 hardest boss, but also my most hated boss. The constant backpeddling/jump back ruins the fight for me. There are some playthroughs I just skip him altogether and only go to the castle for the items. Also, yay for pronouncing Vicar correctly!
Laurence is WAY harder than orpha. Laurence is a nightmare to beat. Especially on new game plus. New game plus Laurence is literally impossible, even with help.
LOL... Laurence was the only boss I managed to beat with zero deaths. And I had a lot of trouble with Amygdala. It's funny how Bloodborne bosses challenge each player in unique ways.
Weapon Damage and Armoured Zombies health/Armour scaling way too high after round 32 as well as mangler boss spam being the "difficulty", and the only way to bypass that being scorestreak spam makes me never want to go past round 31s exfil. The zombies respawning when I'm the distance between the window and the lamppost next to it on Liberty Falls is absolutely insane. Makes training absolutely a pain, borderline unfun.
Finally someone who shares in my struggle with Laurence. I can beat Orphan pretty effortlessly nowadays but Laurence? I'll be lucky to beat him in less than 20 tries
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for micolash take piosoned throwing knifes you can hit him with impunity from above with him before he walks into the arena and a will die relatively quickly
Isn't war thunder the same as world of tanks?
I'll pass on the war thunder since meh, but still waiting on your remnant 2 rankings
Orphan was thr hardest for me but its very close with Laurence. I can't believe you didn't struggle with Ebrietas. She was definitely one of the hardest bosses in Bloodborne.
First Vicar: Hard because of bullshit
Orphan: Hard because designed to fucking kill you
Laurence is a great boss tho
This is a fair description.
David nah this is genuinely the shittiest and most anger inducing fight in the game hands down
@@davidborne_1.0he's absolutely awful
Honorable mention for hardest boss: The blood crow of Painhurst lol
Facts
Impostor iosefka too
And these DAMN sharks in the well.
@@jskakajshbsakknot even close. Henryk and Djura's minigun cousin are the hardest NPCs other than Bloody Crow.
Yeah
Orphan of cos really getting beat by a cleric beast without legs
Placenta man is reasonable to parry. Explosive diarrhea is shitbox city
Cleric beast without legs flies in the face of the game's combat system.
Completely agree. Orphan has never been very difficult
Kos*
Imo he's completely right, Laurence is harder than Orphan, just for all the wrong reasons.
DeMod remade his Bloodborne video, now FromSoft will have to remake Bloodborne too
Hopium at it’s finest 😭
Hahaha it feels like this guy makes the same videos over and over 😂
Ranking HOTTEST bosses:
1) Rom
2) Rom
3) Rom
4) Rom
5) Vicar ROMelia
Bruh😂
Ebrietas at 18 is mad 💀
Fr that stupid charge attack alone makes her like top 10 easily
@arealhuman2409 agreed
Died to her more than Ludwig or Lawrence
@@justinkopy3354 bruh same here with Lawrence, he was a cake walk imo
literally the hardest main game boss, should be top 5
I totally get that this is a ranking for a very specific build but... man, Ebrietas that low is truly wild. This isn't so much a ranking of how difficult the bosses are in the game, and more how well the build counters bosses.
Coming from someone who beat the game 12 times,for some reason ebretias was by far the hardest for me on my last playthrough
Rather than specific build, the boss rankings are based off knowledge and playstyle taking advantage of particular exploits and then ranking bosses based off how much of a challenge they still were after an early weapon boostup
Yeah I fully disagreed with this position. His reasoning would make this video "Bloodborne bosses ranked by how cheezable they are", in which case Blood Starved Beast should be ranked easiest. Also Gasgoigne should be ranked way lower as well since he can be cheezed with the music box or by getting him stucked on the stairs. Ebrietas is by far the hardest boss in the main game for me.
@@cedricrenaud5657honestly I think a true difficulty ranking should take into account the choice to both use and not use cheese. Because it is completely fair that most people may use stuff like the music box for Gascoigne or Cocktails for BSB, but others might not. Therefore a more fair method would most likely take into account more than one playthrough for these rankings. And that's always been my biggest gripe with these lists; they're mostly ranked on a single run with a specific build type, and therefore aren't as comprehensive as they should be.
Are you really that bothered by seeing her so low? Who cares! Its his ranking. Make your own or something
"Bloodborne, my beloved." True words spoken.
"Ebrietas gives you all the head you could ask for"
God I wish.
Would
Fucking hell 😂
real
I’m so proud of my guy for finally learning to pronounce vicar; character development indeed!
Fun tip: You can block all of Martyr Logarius' scythe attacks with the wooden shield, turning the boss fight into a cake walk. Is it boring af? Yes. Is it effective? Also, yes xD
The Chalice dungeons are worth a visit, because there’s a lot of concepts they tested out in there that would later see the light of day in future games. The Pthumerian Elder and Bloodletting Beast, in particular, are ones that any Fromsoft fan will recognize.
As a fromsoft fan I don’t recognize them their movesets haven’t been repeated
@ Not movesets, concepts. What happens to the BLB in its last phase, and what does the Elder do to switch things up?
yep and a harder version of Amygdala. Boss I died most to.
@@grfrjiglstan BLB feels like it could've been a prototype for Guardian/Headless Ape, but what about Elder?
@@static4802Margit/Morgott
ahhhh bloodborne, the game where i suck vs beasts, but do great against humans, and then theres all the other fromsoft games where im great vs beasts but terrible vs humans
Real
I only realized this about Rom in my latest playthrough, but I think she is a reimagining of the Phalanx boss fight, in the same way that The One Reborn is a reimagining of the Tower Knight fight. A large crowd of minions in her arena, which are invulnerable to damage from the front and will gang up on you if you get too deep in. A more passive required strategy where you have to circle at a distance and pick off what minions you can. Cover to prevent the ranged spam from instakilling you offscree- oh, wait, I guess they forgot that part!
I mean Bloodborne started off as a Demons Souls Sequel. Many old files reflect this. Arch Thrones to sit on, Boss Souls to collect and the Moon Phases beeing oddly similar to the World Tendency are not a coincidence! Even the Bosses are twisted Versions of what they imagined this game to be.
When I finally played DeS I loved it because I saw all the ways it's bosses evolved into modern FROM bosses and it's world was better than any of the DS Trilogy.
I honestly agree with Orphan and Laurence.
I first fought Laurence to sort of ‘complete’ the dlc and get a perfect experience difficulty wise because I bought into the hype of Orphan being the hardest.
I was dead wrong. If Orphan of Kos took me a couple of days to beat, Laurence took me a couple of WEEKS.
He was single-handedly the hardest boss I had ever fought in Bloodborne, with only Defiled Amygdala coming close to reaching his difficulty.
I loved the beast claws, but fuck. Not sure if going through the hell that is Lawrence again for the rune is worth it
ludwig is personally most well made boss over all souls game imo. well if you fight him normally, he isn’t that impressive, but i truly appreciated him once i fought him bl4 run. his attacks are very tight, but with clear tell, and every move has proper dodge mechanic, also with incredible music that goes with his attack timing. so once you learn all his moves you can dance along his attacks. it is quite fun jumping around with the music and kill him. kinda like godfrey, i think godfrey was much simpler version. anyway i wish they make more bosses like this bit more.
I feel the same way, at least about fighting him at lower levels. I used to always save the DLC for last, but now I try and fight him as early as possible, only really killing Cleric Beast, Gascoigne, Amelia, and BSB. And I love his fight even more. He is by far the best beast boss in the game, with super tight hotboxes for his size and amazingly clear tells. I wouldn't go so far to say he's the best souls boss, I still think Gael, Isshin, and maybe even Midra are probably better. No knock against the horse man though, Ludwig is still probably top 5 for me. I especially love that his two phases are very different from each other, something that only Gael has really done, and not as thoroughly as Ludwig.
Ludwigs first phase will forever be the hardest fight for me.
Having Ebrietas that low essentially because of being able to 'cheese' her is a bit silly. If you fight her normally it's tough as hell, definitely top 5 but I'd even argue top 3. Eg everyone agrees Demon of Hatred is one of the hardest bosses in Sekiro (I'd say the hardest) but you can cheese it making it piss easy. I wouldn't then say DoH is the easiest Sekiro boss.
Agreed
Are you seriously that pressed over seeing her so low? Get over it
@@demsterclippy4252 Stop whining, he can argue in the comments and say his opinion. If you want to refute him do that,m but stop whining.
Orphan is my favorite fromsoft boss. He's the perfect test of your skill and abilities while being so well balanced and designed.
Owl father and isshin the sword saint are close contenders (with the ladder as my fav final boss of all time)
His hitboxes are just as bad as Consort Radahn tho
@@jameslough6329 I don't agree
His hitboxes are shockingly fair.
@@Z-Mikes00 I agree that his hitboxes in the first phase are really tight overall. But the hitboxes on the placenta in the second phase are comically massive and stretch a lot farther than the actual placenta model.
I think Slaveknight Gael is up there.
When I played Bloodborne for the first time this year, I already called myself an Elden Ring vet with around 2.500 hours in that and having played through Sekiro numerous times, as well as DS3, Lies of P and Lords of the Fallen. So the gameplay wasn’t new to me, it was challenging especially as you don’t get full healing after resting. Also, it certainly helped, as I already had seen other streamers play it (cause of those videos I wanted to get the PS5, solely for this game]. Then I killed Gehrman and was stunned, that this locked me out of the DLC, which I had barely started. So I made a new character, played through it again, and really didn’t struggle against the DLC bosses that much, as Ludwig went down on try 7, Maria on 4, Orphan on my second try and believe it or not, Laurence went down first try. Then came NG+, and boy oh boy, Laurence tormented me for 2 1/2 hours. I was losing my mind, as I could not recall what I did to beat him on NG. So I absolutely agree with the top 5 tier list and Laurence as no. 1, as I never had an easy time against him ever since.
Only fought Moon Presence twice and beat it without dying both times. Granted, I kamikaze’d Gehrmann the first time so when I returned for Moon Presence I did have full blood vials again.
I just don’t know what to think about this list 😂 moon presence that high is NUTS
Maria isn’t really hard when you realize walking to the right dodges 90% of her attacks and you can just pile on damage during her phase changes which a lot of times has her going straight into the next phase. Also ludwig really needed two health bars, going into his second phase with less than half health makes such a good boss a little too easy imo.
With BSB I always tell people to use him to learn to parry, it's just as easy and effective as the PBC method and will get them ready for when it's in the dungeons where PBCs don't work on it.
agreed
Micolash’s second phase becomes a lot easier if you use the Beast Roar. Stunlock him with R1 spam then roar to knock him over and regain stamina during his get up animation. Rinse and repeat. Yes it’s cheap but so is A Call Beyond
15:46 actually logarius has an aura around him that deflects bullets
I fought him once and had a molotov cocktail bounce off him, which I to this day don't know how or why it happened outside of it being a bugged run
Yeah but if you backstab him during the phase transition, he doesn't get the aura in the 2nd phase.
I actually agree with most of this one. Especially the last two. He's tough as nails but one can master Shrimp Scampi. Laurence absolutely does not GAF about your stats, gear, skill, phantoms or i-frames.
Usually the "hard" bosses live up to their hype. Manus? Still absolutely terrifying to fight. Friede? Still cooks me to this day. Orphan? Get absolutely slaughtered every single time.
I don't think I've *ever* struggled against Lawrence, even on my first playthrough. I'm pretty sure the most I've ever died to him in any given playthrough was like 4 times. He's just never been that much of a challenge for me idk.
If you’ve only played the DLC on the standard New Game cycle then that is why.
Laurence is WAY harder on NG+ due to his vastly increased health pool
Lawrence is fine on NG but is straight up unfun on later NG+ cycles because his health and damage scale to a ridiculous degree that’s far higher than anyone else in the game, Orphan included.
I actually really agree with the last two. Through all of my playthroughs of Bloodborne, first phase Kos has never killed me, second phase Kos has probably killed me 60++ times. Even still, Laurence is the one boss that has made me ragequit
Bloodborne is always a playtrouhg worth, especially themed ones around halloween. This year it was Rico from the Penguins from Madagascar. Hunter Set without Cape and Top Hat, Cannon and of course the Boom-Hammer. Kawoom, Kawoom, Kawoom ;)
I really do hope the fact this game is going into maintenance and getting an update after so many years means something and won’t be another disappointment, I really want this amazing game to get more content in the near future.
Looking forward to the Sekiro ranking, glad you're enjoying this return DeMod!
Love that DeMod has went back and retouched some ranking videos! I’ve been so out of touch could anyone possibly tell me if he’s still streaming on twitch?
Logarius is such a weird one for me. On my first playthrough, he was such a pushover and I beat him first try where he didn’t even hit me in first phase. I was baffled that people found him difficult. Every single playthrough since then, he has whooped me and absolutely made me see why everyone finds him hard
Lawrence the first vicar is insanely difficult! Always gives me a hard time every play through
Idk how much this qualifies as an objective difficulty ranking when it’s being judged based exclusively on one build, like no matter how you slice it Moon Presence over Ebrietas or Gehrman is a little silly
Honestly, I've never died to Maria. She's too easy to parry and I just find her attacks easy to avoid. Still a fun fight though.
I kept dodging into her and had surprisingly little trouble with her
@JABRIEL251 lady Maria was the second time I realized Hard doesn't equal fun. The first time was the dancer
I didn't parry her just to make it harder.
She's also kinda easy to just cheese with charged r2 attacks with the Hunter Axe since she'll just go flying and keep getting knocked down
This list proves that the most dangerous thing in Bloodborne is British Cuisine.
Much love demc!! So glad to see you taking us back through history. can't wait to see where you're channel grows to. Also it's late but... LOTF BOSS RANK
Bloodborne is the best FromSoft game ever made
While I might not have put Ebrietas THAT low, I think for me personally there's only been one thing about Ebrietas that makes her hard; that fucking Charge. That thing has one of the most disgusting hitboxes I've ever seen given her entire body becomes a hitbox, meaning if you get so much as brushed by a stray wing or tentacle? You get chunked. It's up there with Commander Gaius as one of the worst charge attacks in the series, IMO. Nowadays I can dodge it more consistently, but I'll not forget the many BL4 attempts that got ended by that charge.
I am respectfully looking at that thumbnail
I'm glad I'm not the only one that's had trouble with The One Reborn. So many people talk about it like it's the easiest fight in the game, but it consistently takes at least a few attempts for me on every run
DeMod. Ebrietas at 18 is *insane*. Debatably the hardest main-game boss.
Just insanely good? Put her in your ranking if you want. Shes staying 18 on his
@ Wtf was the point of making that comment? He posted a video with his opinion, and I disagreed with one part so I commented. Get over it.
Respectfully, this list is lowkey bunz
It's very interesting to see your perspective on boss difficulty with your build. From what I've experienced, depending on your build some bosses can be dramatically more difficult than others based on what weapon(s) you are using, how much health you have, how much you parry, etc.
I can see why you struggled more with Laurence since your build liked being midrange with the gun and Chikage (plus it didn't seem like your health was at the hard cap, which usually stops you from being 2 shot by him) and his hitboxes are pretty unforgiving. I personally still find orphan the hardest by far mostly because I suck at parrying, especially the second phase.
Thank you for coming back and making a remix of this
Good video can’t sit for sekrio man I love that game bosses
If "WHAT IS THAT HIT BOX!!" was a person, it would be Laurence. 💢
Range damage CAN work on Laurence.
The Bowblade. Charged shots from the Bowblade chunk him.
Ebriatus needs to be much higher
Nah, demod is just better
Lets face it... the hardest boss in Bloodborne is the abysmal frame rate and sony's unwillingness to update it.
I’ve been playing it at 60 fps on my laptop for 10 hours this week
I’m a simple man. I see Bloodborne rankings? I watch Bloodborne rankings.
You can loop Micolash in an endless enter and exit out of one of the mirrors until he's dead. I kept far enough away not to aggro him and just porcupined him with my maxed out Simons Bowblade. He'll enter the mirror but comes right back out and just AFK's as long as you keep enough distance. It was kinda hilarious. 😂
There is also cheese for Micolash that you drop into the boss room before he runs in and you can trap him from going in and just beat him down.
Martyr Lagarius is also a tough fight because of the Range Attack shield he has
Honestly, Lawrence is most manageable for me with the threaded cane. The extra beast damage plus the added distance that allows you to thread the needle (pun intended) of staying close with lava but far enough away to avoid stepping in it is quite helpful.
I also found out that you can parry the Living Failures in a recent playthrough, and have much more fun with the fight now.
I never understood why people may think that Laurence is a hard boss. Yeah he has a lot of HP and can hit hard too, but he's also an endgame DLC boss that has a moveset identical to the first boss you can fight in the game. Dodging his attacks is not hard, and the high damage can be countered by, say, leveling Vigor. I also used to play as a glass-cannon type build for all of these games, thinking I had to prioritize my damage stat rather than health or stamina. But the truth is, you really don't. Yes, damage scaling is important, but for most early and mid parts of these games, the weapons upgrade level is more important. Especially in Bloodborne, where almost all of the gems are based on percentages of AR, so leveling your weapon up is all the more important. It makes these games a lot more fun when you level health and stamina equally across the playthrough.
If you're having trouble with Laurence, i think that more so speaks to player skill rather than boss difficulty. His combos are 3-4 attacks max, his openings afterwards are massive, its very easy to strafe around him, and again he is almost identical to the first boss. And this is just a personal opinion, but i find Ludwigs 2nd phase much harder than the first.
Also we need to normalize including Chalice Dungeon Bosses, they have some pretty fun bouts.
Having got the platinum trophy on Bloodborne before the release of the Old Hunters DLC, I can say that facing Laurence on NG+++ was truly the stuff of nightmares...
Some of these are wild to me, particularly how low some really hard bosses are, but I agree with the top 3 and their order. I also agree that Ludwig and Orphan are hard as a result of good design while Lawrence is arguably the hardest but in a way that feels more like unfair design features than being mechanically well designed. In his second phase it’s hard to be anywhere without taking damage. The last time I played through I took him down to almost zero and then had enough ammo left to just take him out at range as he was doing his crawling attack with half a health bar and no more healing. On my most recent battle against Orphan, I was in some kind of zen master state with parries, but it was still very hard.
I got stuck say Vy-car due to watching your orginal Bloodborne content, it was only when i met a real Vicar irl i was politley corrected
I can't be the only one who expected another classified equipment leak in this video when they heard War Thunder.
“Just farm winter lanterns” get a load of this guy… what else should I do? Is that all? Maybe I should ask all the bosses to die nicely.
this is weird, I remembered thedemodcracy voice different back in the days, this video just popped up. Went back on the OG BB reviews and his voiced did change. Seeing other youtubers age when you don't see their stuffs in years.
I just finished my playthrough running this EXACT build! This ranking couldn't be more true
U should start doing rankings on specific weapon matchups vs bosses for the souls games.
Example would be something like a ranking of how hard each boss is vs the moonlight greatsword or something like that (maybe even just a whole category/ buildtype, like how hard each boss is with a dex or arcane build).
Fun anecdote: the AI glitched out on my save so BSB ignored the Pungent Blood Cocktails. I still beat him after I figured out the charged heavy on transformed Hunter's Axe would actually fling him back about 20 feet.
Laurence took me 3 tries, Orphan took me 6 tries, Pthumerian descendant in the chalice dungeon took me two full days. Lost count of how many attempts 💀
😂🤯💀
Watching this after having just watched the backlogs accursed brew challenge run is funny, mostly because of how utterly he demolished the last 2 bosses on this list.
WELP! Time to start up the ol’ PS4 again !!
Interesting choice for #1... I know it's a personal list but Laurence is generally just a few tries for me each time compared to Orphan and Ludwig who I always spend quite some time with, I find his patterns and attacks way easier to read and get a beat on than several other bosses. Only thing that pushes him up for me is knowing how insane his damage is on the higher NG+ playthroughs.
yeah i've new gamed several times now, and without a doubt ludwig is the hardest boss for me. orphan would be 2nd, with lady maria being 3rd.
Vy-car doesn't sound better. It's always sounded goofy.
It reminds me of when someone learns a new word from a dictionary to sound smart then pronounces it wrong and sounds like a fool
I saw the list, i started tweaking
What makes me sad about laurence is he is the hardest bloodborne boss and isn't unique in the slightest. To anyone who doesn't know, his second phase is just the moveset of the sewer zombies in central yharnam sped up. I realized it a while ago and it upsets me to no end.
I recently beat the game again, and in my run I tried to use to parry bosses as little as possible. This made me enjoy bossfight like Maria a lot more and not melt her via parry. I ran a chikage build so when I went to fight Lagarius I found him easy as I was focused on dodges instead of parry. I was confused as to how easily I beat him considering I barely scraped by on my last few runs of the game
If you are worried about cleric beast placement, don't. I first tried it as my first ever Soulsborne boss. My only prior experience was Lords of the Fallen
glorious yharnam its great to see you
The first time I played the DLC was on NG+. I struggled to beat OoK, but I had to start a regular NG run to beat Laurence for the first time
During my latest, and probably 20th+ play through, my favourite boss Ludwig absolutely spanked me for two days, losing countless hours of sleep! Boss experience changes, but that was my worst. And I've beaten Malenia!
Took me 6 hrs over two days to kill Orphan. Afterward I went straight to Lawrence, ready to get mulched… killed him in 3. I was flabbergasted. Guess Orphan made me get in the zone.
I feel like some of the easier bosses during my first playthrough like Amygdala and Micolash got increasingly harder to deal with in consecutive playthroughs while bosses like Vicar Amelia and Ebrietas who I used to struggle with didn't get harder at all. Especially Amygdala gave me a really hard time on ng+4 with my melee build.
Laurence on the other hand will always be the bane of my existence no matter what lol
Thank you so much for pronouncing "Amygdala" correctly. I can't tell you how many Bloodborne videos I've watched with it pronounced wrong.
I hadnt played a soulsborne game in like 2.5 years. I got on DS3 last week and finished the ringed city on an old save. I then downloaded DS2 again and I started NG+ on an old save. I'll be done with it soon and I guess it's over to Bloodborne to beat it again lol. I gotta do something I've never done before.
I agree with the top 3 but for me the order goes:
1. Orphan of Kos - the guy literally came out of the womb with the sole purpose of skull fucking my sanity.
2. Ludwig the Accursed - the dude's first phase is insane and always fucks me harder than the taxman.
3. Laurence, the First Vicar - I don't know why, but I always breezed him easier than the other two.
funnily for me it's exactly the other way around, the only issue i ever had with kos is sometimes there's pebbles in the arena that get me stuck and make me mess my tempo, for ludwig it took me years to figure out how to fight and it's still mostly a fight i survive rather than win, and laurence just sucks, period.
some years ago i recorded all the bosses after iwas at one of my peakest in skill in bloodborne and lawrence was the only one that took me longer than 3 minutes to beat, he's just not scaled properly.
These recent rankings should be named Ranking The Bosses From Easiest To Hardest While Using The Best Items.
So I guess we all just randomly came back to Bloodborne this week huh
I always thought Laurence was easily the hardest, probably the only boss where I legit got angry at the game.
I remember this game looking WAY TOO GOOD when I was playing it, like better than real life. Seeing it again, in 2024, omg...
Laurence was a solo raid boss. His health bar was so chunky. At least Orphan of Kos felt scaled for a 1v1.
Logarius is not only my #1 hardest boss, but also my most hated boss. The constant backpeddling/jump back ruins the fight for me. There are some playthroughs I just skip him altogether and only go to the castle for the items. Also, yay for pronouncing Vicar correctly!
Margo's Wet Nurse was the one boss I defeated without getting hit. Good times.
are you also going to do the bosses from the Chalice Dungeons? I feel like some of them were the hardest
The watchdog in the defiled chalice dungeon gave me more trouble than anything else in the game
Love this series!
Laurence is WAY harder than orpha. Laurence is a nightmare to beat. Especially on new game plus. New game plus Laurence is literally impossible, even with help.
Bro i legit died more to Cleric Beast in my bloodborne journeys than to Moon Presence
Could you please link the thumbnail art? I'd like to see the artist's other work.
LOL... Laurence was the only boss I managed to beat with zero deaths. And I had a lot of trouble with Amygdala.
It's funny how Bloodborne bosses challenge each player in unique ways.
Weapon Damage and Armoured Zombies health/Armour scaling way too high after round 32 as well as mangler boss spam being the "difficulty", and the only way to bypass that being scorestreak spam makes me never want to go past round 31s exfil. The zombies respawning when I'm the distance between the window and the lamppost next to it on Liberty Falls is absolutely insane. Makes training absolutely a pain, borderline unfun.
Finally someone who shares in my struggle with Laurence. I can beat Orphan pretty effortlessly nowadays but Laurence? I'll be lucky to beat him in less than 20 tries