Kane not being fit, yet being selected is Southgate's fault. Kane, Bellingham and Foden who all want to play in the same space being selected is Southgate's fault. Foden being useless yet playing every game ahead of Palmer is Southgate's fault
Thats not even true. Look who Rooney scored against and then Kane. Its not even close. Rooney scored only 1 WC goal. Kane isnt irreplaceable anymore, and yes, he's never showed up in any final or semi for that matter, but you'll still pick him to start over any English striker right now
Rory isn't entirely wrong, Kane definitely forced himself into a CL final for spurs when he wasn't fit too. He has a weird sense of self importance for a trophy Dodger
Well said rory. Kane got 3 goals but it was like playing every game with 10 men. He was useless. He wasnt the only problem but he was the biggest one for me.
@@Rocky0RoadSaka did OK bro, got a goal and assists. As for Foden - 0 goals and 0 assists all tournament. Watch when the Premier League seasons starts, Foden will be banging them in with De Bruyne, Silva, Haaland and Rodri all around him!
@@Rocky0Road Saka wasn't poor he was Englands best player. He was one of the the few players that played decently most of the time, unlike that fraud Kane who was horrible for 99% of his time on the pitch.
@@JimDuggan-tq2lv saka, foden & palmer were the 3 best players in attack but saka was even better defensively which is why he should have been playing at left back
I was literally typing the same thing. I remember listening live while I was driving and I DEFINITELY heard him say Harry Kane hasn't been performing and how great Ollie Watkins was, proposing that the latter should be brought on for the second half of the final but, and I quote, "You've GOT to start Harry Kane... yep, gotta start harry kane". Now look at him.
Finally someone said it, Kane is only interested in himself. If he really wanted the best for the team, he should have withdrawn himself as clearly unfit.
Rory is absolutely correct. Kane was selfish to force himself into the lineup when he knows he’s shite. If he’s a patriot, he would’ve been honest and prioritize the results over his selfish ego.
Goals win games, thats why strikers are highest paid players in every team. So the impact of Kane not firing is bigger than any other player on the pitch. Especially in this generation, which is starved of prolofic goalscorers, so he's meant to be the difference maker for England and he didnt turn up...
@@Rocky0Road bruv, at least Saka got a goal and assists; as for Foden 0 goals and 0 assists - Foden should not have started. Should have been Palmer all day long.
stokegate, kane, walker, stones, pickford, trippier & shaw should all retire from england duty. it's time for a fresh start with this new generation & new captain foden.
@@dannybradley8391 oh no, I am a city fan, when I initially heard that comparison early during the 2023/2024 season I argued that it was a stupid debate and I just got tired of arguing with stupid people because believe it or not but stupidity is contagious so I left the people in their stupidity
Well done mate, agree with every word you said about Kane. Long suffering spurs fam here. Kane always did it for himself, not the team, hence the golden boots but no trophy. Spurs should have got rid of him earlier . We hardly missed him last season and should have finished top 4 had it not been having to offer Man city a bye. All the times Spurs qualified for champions league, Kane was injured, yet he'd turn up at the finals and we'd lose. The champions league final a prime example. Kane just doesn't do it when it really matters and when the team needs him most he goes missing.
Kane is still the sensitive goody overweight kid inside that he was during your leagues. Being told you'll never make it because you're overweight and not an athlete haunts most athletes even when they make it. He's overachieved given his deficiencies but he's not a natural leader.
I said it for years that Kane is holding Tottenham back, you guys had really good players who was sacrificing way to much of themselves to serve Kane. When you was without Kane you played with more freedom, was more dynamic in attack and dangerous.
@@dwaynedibley997 No ones passing to a striker thats still on ther halfway line when saka is at their corner spot, no ones passing to a kane when he cant run. They actively avoided passing to him cause hes a liability.
@@dwaynedibley997the game has changed. You have to be a versatile playmaker now. Halland gets criticized now also for same thing. Not creative, cant created his own chances. So the game just moves on around him.
@@nudisco7882 44 goals in the bundesliga , and apparently the game has changed .. we did a whole tournament with out a left back and a left winger , no other team did that.
It's true, I've never seen Harry Kane drag either Tottenham or England through a game. How many semis and finals has he played in now and been totally anonymous in every single one of them. FA Cup semis, carling Cup finals, Champions league final, World Cup semi, euros finals. If the team isn't playing well he goes missing entirely.
But his goal stats are easily the best for an English international striker. I've never been very impressed by him, but he had a poor tournament and still won the golden boot.
@@DirtyJamesUK Probably the only thing he will ever win, look at some of the teams that he he scored against to raise his score levels while playing for England.
I dunno about Rory, seems to chop and change views on the regular, but Pearce and Agbonlahor were right from the very start in saying that Kane should have not started every game. He was not running at all in the first half and should have been subbed at half-time.
Kane never made runs in behind defenders, didn't press, didn't hold the ball up, didn't win aerial battles, didn't take players on, kept dropping back into that ridiculous midfield role... trotting around like an obedient puppy from one opposition defender to the next without actually tackling anyone. Yes, he's England's all-time scorer but when it matters, in tournaments, he hasn't been good enough. Time for someone else to lead the line.
Look up Kane's international goals record. He's scored 66 goals, 22 of which were penalties, and he's scored only 12 goals against, what you would call, top teams.
I don’t understand if he wasn’t 100% fit, why didn’t he rest him for the group games and then have harry come on. He wasn’t fit for the champions league at Spurs but he insisted on playing and it cost us
As a Spurs fan I’ve called out how Kane has failed at the highest levels and yet he still gets picked can’t be dropped and the whole team fails. Rory you’ve seen the light.
Couldn’t agree more I think Kane is definitely not fit and it’s so selfish to basically pick himself and put England’s chance of winning at risk because he wants to start and grab some tap ins for his stats. Also he can’t handle not being the main anymore, Bellingham and foden are the main men now and he can’t handle that
Why does everyone get attacked when they blame Harry Kane? If you know football you will know England played with 10 men not 11. Kane is the most over rated forward and never affected any final he has played.😂😂😂
Last night and throughout his career, Harry Kane once again proved why he doesn't rank as a Top 10 striker in Premier League History because he ain't won Nothing in his career.
@raymondbutler834 Kane is literally the 2nd leading goal scorer in Premier League history and would be on the verge of breaking Shearer’s record this season if he hadn’t left for Germany last year. You’re conflating him playing for Tottenham and England with not being one of the top strikers in the league’s history.
@@Photosoflife But Kane needs to win a major trophy to be recognised as a world class striker, if he doesn't then Kane should only be remembered as a prolific goal scorer who doesn't deliver big goals in big games, hence no silverware to show for it. And Yes, Kane had multiple opportunities to win silverware for the past 10 years: When Spurs missed out on the Premier League to Leicester, Carabao Cup Finals for Spurs, Champions League Final for Spurs as well as 2 Euro Finals for England, a World Cup Semi Final for England plus Bayern Munich last season.
So if England won and he didn't play well, would he automatically been a great player because he collects the trophy? If Andy Coles toe connects with the ball against West Ham in 1995 does that render Alan Shearer as less than great? No. It's far more nuanced than that
@@jamespayne9331 I had never heard of him before he appeared on Talksport - what had he done previous to the TS job? Ditto Hugh Wersoncroft. (Bet I spelt that wrong lol)
Underrated comment….. Bellingham as false 9 would allow Gordon in and we’d of actually got down the side of teams and had some pace. Think we got to the by line 4 times all tournament. Spain managed it about 6 times in the final against us
@@mm89coyr i would still play foden as the false 9 because you need jude in midfield. pickford gordon guehi rice saka mainoo trent bellingham foden (c) palmer watkins
@@imobjectivelybalancedonTHEball I get it but I just don’t think Gideon is anywhere near as good outside of the pep system. Or maybe effective rather than good is the right word because he is quality. I think if we really attacked it the midfield would of been a 3 of foden, rice, Trent But the 4-3-3 isn’t in vogue for internationals. I will say the 4-3-2-1 type thing we played in every game apart from the Dutch is a very defensive mentality. Forest play it and it’s cos we need a low block and a break away and we accept we will never have more than 40% possession in 80% of the games
Bellingham also played an entire season in front of Modric/Kroos/Tchouameni/Camavinga/Valverde. Which gives him license to just look for goals and not have to worry about all the other duties of a real midfielder.
as bad as kane was this tournament, creating chances for our strikers has been a problem in general for england in the last year or so. Watkins barely got a kick against north macedonia last november or against brazil in march, or against bosnia in the warm up match to the tournament. He only touched the ball 3 times when he came on last night and didn't do much better than kane.
Kane should only play 5/10mins if england are winning. He ain’t CR7. SAFEgate got rid of rashford sterling hendo Phillips mount maguire etc but kept toney watkins as bit part players and instead played harry kane. Depressing..absolute disgrace. Make no sense
Dont often agree with Jennings...but he is right. Kane has been moving like a OAP all tournament, its obvious that the injury he picked up the backend of the season for Bayern was affecting him.
Harry was so fast getting back to midfield and defence, it a pity he plays upfront lol harry always goes missing in big games. Goal scoring is definitely the hardest part of football that’s why they get paid so much. No goals no trophies
About comparing Rice vs Rodri, am sorry mates, but Rice is.not anywhere near Rodri. Yes, Rice has the potential to be a top defensive midfielder, but lacks the experience and tactics to go to the next level. Hopefully, with Arteta at Arsenal, Rice will grow and become a force in the England midfield in the years to come.
Every top striker is selfish it’s in their dna. But if Kane wasn’t fit then it should have been up to the manager to pluck up the courage to drop him . Neither Southgate or Kane are natural winners .
These guys were so confident for an England win 48 hours ago. You just know living in England that these would always be the type of conversation after the final that would be had 😂
He was absolutely not fit for the tournament despite scoring 3 goals. A true captain would let Palmer to play in the final. I've absolutely lost respect for Kane. He was on the bench after being substituted when we were 2-1 down and I looked at him like... what a failure. He's been in 5 finals in his career and did nothing.
Why do talk sport still insist on having the amateur toxic Rory on air 🤦. No mention of us taking 3 top right backs to the euros and then play Saka at right back, Spain focused their attacks on our unnecessarily weak right hand side, it is where both their goals came from plus many other chances.
If Kane had any respect for his manager he’d have declared himself unfit, he clearly wasn’t playing at his normal high standard, way too slow and ponderous.
Kane worried about being labeled a quitter & worse yet if team did better without him in (which they did). Crazy thing is USA Olympic Basketball team dealt with exact same thing with one of their stars who was clearly unfit. Team just said his club AND the Olympic coaches agreed it was too risky for injury. To "protect" the player they sent him home.
Time for a new manager and for Kane to be consigned to the history books. I would make Bellingham captain and give these fantastic young players a chance.
This has to be the dumbest rant I’ve ever heard. So Harry Kane is the coach as well as the entire team hence the loss lies squarely on his shoulders? What about Jude, Foden, Saka etc the other so-called best players in the world?
Harry Kane is probably, legitimately 10x the footballer of Ollie Watkins. No one disputes that. And yet if Watkins played Kane's minutes in this Euro Tourney, England scores AT LEAST 5 more goals. I wholeheartedly believe that. Kane's lack of movement/mobility, and his lack of willingness to just be a #9 goal scorer was the main reason the English attack were so inept. Kane thinks hes a freaking midfielder, and the butterfly effect is how much it diminishes Jude & Fodens ability to be at their creative best. This team needs a TRUE #9, even if he isnt half as talented as Kane. The FIT is what matters.
Foden apart from 5 min against Holland was pathetic all TM. Walker at RB in back 3 was clueless. The oceans of space he left for both goals as well as the Spain attempt straight after their 1st goal was glaring errors. Bellingham was average. Rice was average. Trippier was awful. Stones was iffy. Kane was abysmal. A lamp post would’ve showed more movement. Number of times Saka got behind the line of defence, put the ball in the 18 yrs box , no Kane , no Foden , or another player getting into the box The biggest culprit is the rotten FA for picking these woeful managers and sticking with them forever. England squad was in their prime with host of establishment household names playing key roles at the biggest clubs in Europe. England were actually made pre tournament favs, yet Southgate played this rubbish style of non football and England only played one half of decent football all TM ( 1st half against Holland ) Don’t forget England also had the much easier half of the draw
In football both the manager and the captain have powers to do the right things!!!! Kane was the Ronaldo of this Euros which was Ronaldo's only poor tournament!!!!!
ronaldo has never scored a KO stage world cup goal and hasn't scored for about ten hours in KO matches in general. He also dind't score once this tournament and missed sitters (including a pen) as bad as kane was he was at least much more effective than ronaldo by helping his team with 3 vital goals.
Southgate has to take the ultimate responsibility for his decision to play an under par Kane in all of the games during the tournament. He has cost us a chance to win silverware in three tournaments. He is guilty of allowing an aging, slow, and goal shy Italian team to play in the exact manner they would have liked. The fittest squad with the most pace and scored the most goals, who was a goal up inside 5 minutes, but sat back and made it easy for Italy. They couldn’t believe their luck. We should have gone full out and blew them away. We could have won it in the first half. This tournament. Well, it’s obvious to everyone who knows anything about football. We got to the final because individual players displayed their talent in a flash of brilliance during a desperate time. They were then called upon to revert back into their usual defensive style of sitting back and allowing the opposing team to counter. 96. The pass he made to the German keeper, which was actually supposed to be a penalty. Thanks Simpgate.
100% agree with him on this Kane is not the answer, we desperately needed a number 9 that provided that threat in and around the box. He was off the pace all tournament. None of the main guys blazed themselves in glory. And it took Palme, Watkins, Toney and Saka to really make us appear as if we had anything to us. To move forward we should consider a change in captain as well as manager. I dont think Kane is the guy. Southgate was right to stand down.
Agree with Rory. The amount of times I counted only one of two players running into the box when one of the wide players had it was frightening. England with the technical and pacey players they have NEED a striker with pace that gets in behind. Counted multiple times that Kane was positioned in his own half, with the rest of the team to be fair.
So many truths thrown around, so many real problems in the whole campaign; Kane a problem - YES, Foden a problem - YES, Saka, never took on an opponent, Walker, over lapping full back crossing like a 4th div player. Bellingham running around like a headless chicken. Southgate a clueless defensive minded player and coach, a Lilliputian among tacticians.
Rorys 100%. Once again its deflected away from Harry Kane. Its about time he is held accountable instead of everyone making excuses for him all the time
When he comes back to England, the public needs to voice their opinion on Kane’d selfish behavior. He knew he was not fit yet he played. We played with 10 men.
I agree that if Harry Kane was not fully fit he should have owned up and sacrificed himself for the sake of the team. However, there was a tactical and maybe team selection problem. England never dominated any game they played; they scrapped and scraped their way to the final.
Rory's takes are a bit off usually but you cant disagree when he says Watkins was ready off the back of the Dutch. All the momentum/confidence was there with Watkins to start him in that Final
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Kane not being fit, yet being selected is Southgate's fault. Kane, Bellingham and Foden who all want to play in the same space being selected is Southgate's fault. Foden being useless yet playing every game ahead of Palmer is Southgate's fault
Thats sich a true statement! Kane has never scored a goal that matters... only goals against san Marino 😭
When we play pub teams to qualify for tournaments theres no wonder hes englands top scorer
Thats not even true. Look who Rooney scored against and then Kane. Its not even close. Rooney scored only 1 WC goal. Kane isnt irreplaceable anymore, and yes, he's never showed up in any final or semi for that matter, but you'll still pick him to start over any English striker right now
@julianlouis1
You’re very conveniently neglecting to mention Kane has 15 goals and 3 assists in 29 career Euro and World Cup matches.
Literally scored the winner(from open play) against Slovakia in the Round of 16. Pretty sure that mattered a lot in getting to the quarter-finals.
And scored a pen on the semis Kane has scored loads of goals that matter so stop pretending he hasn’t
Comparing Declan Rice to Rodri 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Rory isn't entirely wrong, Kane definitely forced himself into a CL final for spurs when he wasn't fit too.
He has a weird sense of self importance for a trophy Dodger
Blame is on Southgate AND Kane. Southgate, didn't have the minerals to drop him. Kane, did a Ronaldo...and put himself before country!
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The meltdown is glorious😂😂😂
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@@CDCD23-25half your fans are calling for Kane to never play for England again. I'd say that's quite the meltdown.😂
Kane did this to Spurs in the Champions League final and was woeful
Well said rory. Kane got 3 goals but it was like playing every game with 10 men. He was useless. He wasnt the only problem but he was the biggest one for me.
Maybe Kane should retire from international football leave it to the youngers now.
"Youngers" Good word.😅😅
Like foden and saka who were poor
@@Rocky0RoadSaka did OK bro, got a goal and assists. As for Foden - 0 goals and 0 assists all tournament. Watch when the Premier League seasons starts, Foden will be banging them in with De Bruyne, Silva, Haaland and Rodri all around him!
@@Rocky0Road Saka wasn't poor he was Englands best player. He was one of the the few players that played decently most of the time, unlike that fraud Kane who was horrible for 99% of his time on the pitch.
@@JimDuggan-tq2lv saka, foden & palmer were the 3 best players in attack but saka was even better defensively which is why he should have been playing at left back
Didn't Rory say few days ago that Kane wasn't the problem now, he is after final. 😂😂
Rory has destroyed any credibility he had.
I was literally typing the same thing. I remember listening live while I was driving and I DEFINITELY heard him say Harry Kane hasn't been performing and how great Ollie Watkins was, proposing that the latter should be brought on for the second half of the final but, and I quote, "You've GOT to start Harry Kane... yep, gotta start harry kane". Now look at him.
@@Basedonaconspiracytheory he never had any
rory jenny is the worst on talksport.. hope he gets kicked out and we never have to hear his nonsense again
@@flynngoodwo Why tune in then, weird thing to do.
Finally someone said it, Kane is only interested in himself. If he really wanted the best for the team, he should have withdrawn himself as clearly unfit.
Not his choice donut.🍩 Southgate’s decision
Rory is absolutely correct. Kane was selfish to force himself into the lineup when he knows he’s shite. If he’s a patriot, he would’ve been honest and prioritize the results over his selfish ego.
It's Southgate's responsibility as manager to select the team and the tactical set-up, he completely messed up both
Blaming one player is really harsh. Many of the players didn't turn up. And the manager isnt up to scratch. Simple really.
He is the worst and he is the captain.
He's to used to losing, he doesn't care, no passion
Goals win games, thats why strikers are highest paid players in every team. So the impact of Kane not firing is bigger than any other player on the pitch. Especially in this generation, which is starved of prolofic goalscorers, so he's meant to be the difference maker for England and he didnt turn up...
Never want to see Kane or Walker play for England again
and Trippier, times up for the over 30's.
And foden, rice, saka all have been poor
@@Rocky0Road bruv, at least Saka got a goal and assists; as for Foden 0 goals and 0 assists - Foden should not have started. Should have been Palmer all day long.
If Reece James is fit he’d be first choice anyway
stokegate, kane, walker, stones, pickford, trippier & shaw should all retire from england duty. it's time for a fresh start with this new generation & new captain foden.
Kane's lack of pace really hurts him in the very biggest games. He's too slow.
Comparing Rice to any world class player shows these pundits have no idea what they're talking about, he's decent at best.
Rory said "we will never compare Rice to Rodri ever again" that is Rory admitting that Rice is a good player not World Class because Rodri is.
@@Bluelight44 "again", he never should have been, you don't need to watch this Euros to see that.
@@dannybradley8391 oh no, I am a city fan, when I initially heard that comparison early during the 2023/2024 season I argued that it was a stupid debate and I just got tired of arguing with stupid people because believe it or not but stupidity is contagious so I left the people in their stupidity
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He's a runner that's it, no better than Gallagher just looks better doing it.
Kane and Southgate are still in this team because they look the part, not because they are fit for the position.
Let's assume he was fit
Nothing changes
End of matter
Well done mate, agree with every word you said about Kane. Long suffering spurs fam here. Kane always did it for himself, not the team, hence the golden boots but no trophy. Spurs should have got rid of him earlier . We hardly missed him last season and should have finished top 4 had it not been having to offer Man city a bye. All the times Spurs qualified for champions league, Kane was injured, yet he'd turn up at the finals and we'd lose. The champions league final a prime example. Kane just doesn't do it when it really matters and when the team needs him most he goes missing.
Kane is still the sensitive goody overweight kid inside that he was during your leagues.
Being told you'll never make it because you're overweight and not an athlete haunts most athletes even when they make it.
He's overachieved given his deficiencies but he's not a natural leader.
I said it for years that Kane is holding Tottenham back, you guys had really good players who was sacrificing way to much of themselves to serve Kane. When you was without Kane you played with more freedom, was more dynamic in attack and dangerous.
I love how everyone feels the same hatred I felt when i saw Harry Kane in the Champions league final vs Liverpool
And all the other finals 😂
Kane is a selfish selfish player.. even friendlies he will play 90 mins to stat pad and they never trialed anyone else
Because if we don't win every game, even friendlies, people lose their mind and cry about it!
Kane was not the problem, what’s he meant to do when he gets no service
@@dwaynedibley997 No ones passing to a striker thats still on ther halfway line when saka is at their corner spot, no ones passing to a kane when he cant run. They actively avoided passing to him cause hes a liability.
@@dwaynedibley997the game has changed.
You have to be a versatile playmaker now.
Halland gets criticized now also for same thing. Not creative, cant created his own chances. So the game just moves on around him.
@@nudisco7882 44 goals in the bundesliga , and apparently the game has changed .. we did a whole tournament with out a left back and a left winger , no other team did that.
It's true, I've never seen Harry Kane drag either Tottenham or England through a game.
How many semis and finals has he played in now and been totally anonymous in every single one of them.
FA Cup semis, carling Cup finals, Champions league final, World Cup semi, euros finals.
If the team isn't playing well he goes missing entirely.
Unfortunately Harry Kane is for Harry Kane, his ego is bigger than the whole England team, very overrated striker at international level.
But his goal stats are easily the best for an English international striker.
I've never been very impressed by him, but he had a poor tournament and still won the golden boot.
@@DirtyJamesUK Probably the only thing he will ever win, look at some of the teams that he he scored against to raise his score levels while playing for England.
What Rory said is what Tottenham fans said after the UCL final.
I have said for 2 years that England will never win a trophy with Kane in the squad
I dunno about Rory, seems to chop and change views on the regular, but Pearce and Agbonlahor were right from the very start in saying that Kane should have not started every game. He was not running at all in the first half and should have been subbed at half-time.
Kane never made runs in behind defenders, didn't press, didn't hold the ball up, didn't win aerial battles, didn't take players on, kept dropping back into that ridiculous midfield role... trotting around like an obedient puppy from one opposition defender to the next without actually tackling anyone. Yes, he's England's all-time scorer but when it matters, in tournaments, he hasn't been good enough. Time for someone else to lead the line.
Look up Kane's international goals record. He's scored 66 goals, 22 of which were penalties, and he's scored only 12 goals against, what you would call, top teams.
by that metric, ronaldo has only scored 22 goals against 'top teams' if you exclude minnows and penalties.
I don’t understand if he wasn’t 100% fit, why didn’t he rest him for the group games and then have harry come on. He wasn’t fit for the champions league at Spurs but he insisted on playing and it cost us
If I was Toney or Watkins I would have been personally insulted by sitting on the bench watching Kanes performances
Southgate is weak
Rory spitting facts!!!!! 🔥 🔥 🔥
Spot on Kane is finished let him retire
Kane's legs are gone. He was a fat kid & no surprises his legs are gone at the age of 30 & sluggish.
As a Spurs fan I’ve called out how Kane has failed at the highest levels and yet he still gets picked can’t be dropped and the whole team fails. Rory you’ve seen the light.
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Couldn’t agree more I think Kane is definitely not fit and it’s so selfish to basically pick himself and put England’s chance of winning at risk because he wants to start and grab some tap ins for his stats. Also he can’t handle not being the main anymore, Bellingham and foden are the main men now and he can’t handle that
Why does everyone get attacked when they blame Harry Kane? If you know football you will know England played with 10 men not 11. Kane is the most over rated forward and never affected any final he has played.😂😂😂
Last night and throughout his career, Harry Kane once again proved why he doesn't rank as a Top 10 striker in Premier League History because he ain't won Nothing in his career.
@raymondbutler834
Kane is literally the 2nd leading goal scorer in Premier League history and would be on the verge of breaking Shearer’s record this season if he hadn’t left for Germany last year. You’re conflating him playing for Tottenham and England with not being one of the top strikers in the league’s history.
@@Photosoflife But Kane needs to win a major trophy to be recognised as a world class striker, if he doesn't then Kane should only be remembered as a prolific goal scorer who doesn't deliver big goals in big games, hence no silverware to show for it. And Yes, Kane had multiple opportunities to win silverware for the past 10 years:
When Spurs missed out on the Premier League to Leicester, Carabao Cup Finals for Spurs, Champions League Final for Spurs as well as 2 Euro Finals for England, a World Cup Semi Final for England plus Bayern Munich last season.
So if England won and he didn't play well, would he automatically been a great player because he collects the trophy?
If Andy Coles toe connects with the ball against West Ham in 1995 does that render Alan Shearer as less than great?
No. It's far more nuanced than that
How can you play a centre forward or no 9 who is clearly not fit and expect to win big games???
Stokegate picked him, blame him.
Rory comes off with these statements that he thinks off the top of his head, then stands behind it like he’s believed it his whole life 😂
Perfectly said... He freestyles throughout with no real thought behind his statements
His Nickname is Rory flip flop Jennings because he's the biggest flip flopper on the station... how he gets on this radio station is criminal....
@@jamespayne9331 I had never heard of him before he appeared on Talksport - what had he done previous to the TS job? Ditto Hugh Wersoncroft. (Bet I spelt that wrong lol)
If you have a looser as your captain ur always going to lose
Jennings is a fool for saying Kane doesn't care. Why is he even on Talksport.
Bellingham was poor as well, he seems to be beyond criticism.
Bellingham was absolutey poor.
@@kevinwarner959 And yet significantly better than Kane and Foden.
@@kevinwarner959then why did Pep just single out how well Jude just did this tourney?
No one realised Bellingham played all season as a false 9 not a 10
Underrated comment….. Bellingham as false 9 would allow Gordon in and we’d of actually got down the side of teams and had some pace. Think we got to the by line 4 times all tournament. Spain managed it about 6 times in the final against us
Finally someone bar myself which says it!
@@mm89coyr i would still play foden as the false 9 because you need jude in midfield.
pickford
gordon guehi rice saka
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trent bellingham
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palmer watkins
@@imobjectivelybalancedonTHEball I get it but I just don’t think Gideon is anywhere near as good outside of the pep system. Or maybe effective rather than good is the right word because he is quality. I think if we really attacked it the midfield would of been a 3 of foden, rice, Trent
But the 4-3-3 isn’t in vogue for internationals.
I will say the 4-3-2-1 type thing we played in every game apart from the Dutch is a very defensive mentality. Forest play it and it’s cos we need a low block and a break away and we accept we will never have more than 40% possession in 80% of the games
Bellingham also played an entire season in front of Modric/Kroos/Tchouameni/Camavinga/Valverde. Which gives him license to just look for goals and not have to worry about all the other duties of a real midfielder.
That's a very good point. I don't think Kane has scored a goal that has any significance (at the time]
40 goals a season once! Not 10 seasons
twice!
Who cares he could have scored 1100 goals, still haven't won anything.
Ramsay left out Jimmy Greaves who was x10 Kane. Managers need ⚽️⚽️
Leave him alone in this free world he is allowed to identify as a world class striker
Kane scored 40 goals a seasons for 10 seasons lol he’s score 40 plus twice. Rice was appalling ok Rory
What did those 40 goals get him oh yeh nothing he’s a bottle job through and through
Kane shares golden boot award with five others due to rule change of assists.
as bad as kane was this tournament, creating chances for our strikers has been a problem in general for england in the last year or so. Watkins barely got a kick against north macedonia last november or against brazil in march, or against bosnia in the warm up match to the tournament. He only touched the ball 3 times when he came on last night and didn't do much better than kane.
Kane should only play 5/10mins if england are winning. He ain’t CR7. SAFEgate got rid of rashford sterling hendo Phillips mount maguire etc but kept toney watkins as bit part players and instead played harry kane. Depressing..absolute disgrace. Make no sense
Dont often agree with Jennings...but he is right. Kane has been moving like a OAP all tournament, its obvious that the injury he picked up the backend of the season for Bayern was affecting him.
This is the first time i have ever agreed with rory
0:10 "it's not a time to talk about personal people" 😂
Wow, Harry was at his physical maximum, hate to see him at physical minimum
Harry was so fast getting back to midfield and defence, it a pity he plays upfront lol harry always goes missing in big games. Goal scoring is definitely the hardest part of football that’s why they get paid so much. No goals no trophies
He's basically just not that good!
I seriously CANNOT remember a big goal by Harry Kane to see a team through a critical game.
Finally Harry Kane gets his flowers.
Kane dropping deep is shirking his responsibility as the centre forward. He is a choker and a loser.
About comparing Rice vs Rodri, am sorry mates, but Rice is.not anywhere near Rodri. Yes, Rice has the potential to be a top defensive midfielder, but lacks the experience and tactics to go to the next level.
Hopefully, with Arteta at Arsenal, Rice will grow and become a force in the England midfield in the years to come.
Every top striker is selfish it’s in their dna. But if Kane wasn’t fit then it should have been up to the manager to pluck up the courage to drop him . Neither Southgate or Kane are natural winners .
Kane has never done it in the really big /important games and he really let us down in this tournament as he was totally anonymous.
There were 11 players on the pitch, all of them should played to win
Harry Kane was very poor throughout the whole tournament. In any event he shouldn’t be selected as he’s a trophy jinx.
These guys were so confident for an England win 48 hours ago. You just know living in England that these would always be the type of conversation after the final that would be had 😂
They coincidentally saw these problems that according to them were clear to see until England lost 😮
He was absolutely not fit for the tournament despite scoring 3 goals. A true captain would let Palmer to play in the final. I've absolutely lost respect for Kane. He was on the bench after being substituted when we were 2-1 down and I looked at him like... what a failure. He's been in 5 finals in his career and did nothing.
Kane deserves criticism but Rory just hates Spurs.
Why do talk sport still insist on having the amateur toxic Rory on air 🤦. No mention of us taking 3 top right backs to the euros and then play Saka at right back, Spain focused their attacks on our unnecessarily weak right hand side, it is where both their goals came from plus many other chances.
Kane is the antidote to trophies, I'll bet Bayern doesnt win the Bundesliga next season either or the german cup
Spain won the Euros with Morata scoring just 1 goal ! The problem was the whole England team. What is this clown Rory waffling about?????
If Kane had any respect for his manager he’d have declared himself unfit, he clearly wasn’t playing at his normal high standard, way too slow and ponderous.
Kane worried about being labeled a quitter & worse yet if team did better without him in (which they did).
Crazy thing is USA Olympic Basketball team dealt with exact same thing with one of their stars who was clearly unfit.
Team just said his club AND the Olympic coaches agreed it was too risky for injury. To "protect" the player they sent him home.
David Nugent!!😂 wow that sent me!!😂
Harry looked like he was going to grow roots 😂😂😂
Time for a new manager and for Kane to be consigned to the history books. I would make Bellingham captain and give these fantastic young players a chance.
This has to be the dumbest rant I’ve ever heard. So Harry Kane is the coach as well as the entire team hence the loss lies squarely on his shoulders? What about Jude, Foden, Saka etc the other so-called best players in the world?
Harry Kane is probably, legitimately 10x the footballer of Ollie Watkins. No one disputes that. And yet if Watkins played Kane's minutes in this Euro Tourney, England scores AT LEAST 5 more goals. I wholeheartedly believe that. Kane's lack of movement/mobility, and his lack of willingness to just be a #9 goal scorer was the main reason the English attack were so inept. Kane thinks hes a freaking midfielder, and the butterfly effect is how much it diminishes Jude & Fodens ability to be at their creative best. This team needs a TRUE #9, even if he isnt half as talented as Kane. The FIT is what matters.
Kane's missed a few that matters. His Chris Waddle impersonation against France was uncanny!
Foden apart from 5 min against Holland was pathetic all TM. Walker at RB in back 3 was clueless. The oceans of space he left for both goals as well as the Spain attempt straight after their 1st goal was glaring errors.
Bellingham was average. Rice was average. Trippier was awful. Stones was iffy. Kane was abysmal. A lamp post would’ve showed more movement. Number of times Saka got behind the line of defence, put the ball in the 18 yrs box , no Kane , no Foden , or another player getting into the box
The biggest culprit is the rotten FA for picking these woeful managers and sticking with them forever. England squad was in their prime with host of establishment household names playing key roles at the biggest clubs in Europe. England were actually made pre tournament favs, yet Southgate played this rubbish style of non football and England only played one half of decent football all TM ( 1st half against Holland )
Don’t forget England also had the much easier half of the draw
“He didn’t look fit, he didn’t look right. Here’s what he had to say after the game last night”
That rhymes perfectly!!!
I never really thought Kane was that good for England
In football both the manager and the captain have powers to do the right things!!!! Kane was the Ronaldo of this Euros which was Ronaldo's only poor tournament!!!!!
ronaldo has never scored a KO stage world cup goal and hasn't scored for about ten hours in KO matches in general. He also dind't score once this tournament and missed sitters (including a pen) as bad as kane was he was at least much more effective than ronaldo by helping his team with 3 vital goals.
Southgate has to take the ultimate responsibility for his decision to play an under par Kane in all of the games during the tournament. He has cost us a chance to win silverware in three tournaments. He is guilty of allowing an aging, slow, and goal shy Italian team to play in the exact manner they would have liked. The fittest squad with the most pace and scored the most goals, who was a goal up inside 5 minutes, but sat back and made it easy for Italy. They couldn’t believe their luck. We should have gone full out and blew them away. We could have won it in the first half.
This tournament. Well, it’s obvious to everyone who knows anything about football. We got to the final because individual players displayed their talent in a flash of brilliance during a desperate time. They were then called upon to revert back into their usual defensive style of sitting back and allowing the opposing team to counter.
96. The pass he made to the German keeper, which was actually supposed to be a penalty.
Thanks Simpgate.
If England ever get over the line in an international tournament within the next 50 years. Harry Kane, can do a John Terry...and claim the glory!
Rory has flip-flopped after every game. One minute he blames Kane or Southgate, the next he praises them. Rory has no credibility left.
Like spurs are better without kane. The same would be with england
Southgate kept selecting him so he’s also to blame too! Kanes not man enough to admit he wasn’t ready to start any of those games
rory jenny is the worst that talksport has ever employed
Never agree with Rory but he bang on here
100% agree with him on this Kane is not the answer, we desperately needed a number 9 that provided that threat in and around the box. He was off the pace all tournament. None of the main guys blazed themselves in glory. And it took Palme, Watkins, Toney and Saka to really make us appear as if we had anything to us. To move forward we should consider a change in captain as well as manager. I dont think Kane is the guy. Southgate was right to stand down.
Agree with Rory. The amount of times I counted only one of two players running into the box when one of the wide players had it was frightening. England with the technical and pacey players they have NEED a striker with pace that gets in behind. Counted multiple times that Kane was positioned in his own half, with the rest of the team to be fair.
He’s spot on. Kane isn’t a winner. He went to Bayern and they suddenly lost. Coincidence?
So many truths thrown around, so many real problems in the whole campaign; Kane a problem - YES, Foden a problem - YES, Saka, never took on an opponent, Walker, over lapping full back crossing like a 4th div player. Bellingham running around like a headless chicken. Southgate a clueless defensive minded player and coach, a Lilliputian among tacticians.
Cucurella and Williams doubled up on Saka all game and Southgate didn't change tactics to deal with it
He is overrated. Some say he is better than Rooney and Shearer. Don't make me laugh
Rorys 100%. Once again its deflected away from Harry Kane. Its about time he is held accountable instead of everyone making excuses for him all the time
When he comes back to England, the public needs to voice their opinion on Kane’d selfish behavior. He knew he was not fit yet he played. We played with 10 men.
I agree that if Harry Kane was not fully fit he should have owned up and sacrificed himself for the sake of the team. However, there was a tactical and maybe team selection problem. England never dominated any game they played; they scrapped and scraped their way to the final.
The manager manages and has to take decisions. This guy has no idea.
Rory's takes are a bit off usually but you cant disagree when he says Watkins was ready off the back of the Dutch. All the momentum/confidence was there with Watkins to start him in that Final