ELK WEEK - Elk Week's Best Cartridges for Stopping Big Elk
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30-06, it cannot be denied.
Yes it can
The various different choices of ammo makes the 30-06 very versatile!!
From hogs deer to elk and moose I have used 30/06 from my 03 Springfield. 😊 I’m sure not changing.
Good ole 30-06
I agree 💯👍! I've taken every big game within the US to include my grizzly with my 30-06! Thanks
Woooo Woooo that 270 looks like 270 Jacks favorite bullet, the ol Remington Bronze Point Cool
The 30-06 is Not "outdated."
Its so good at everything its simply Boring.
Best Wishes from Montana! M.H.
Alot of 30.06 still in use here ,just bought me a new howa in 30-06. Now I have two of them 06 rifles lol
@@Mike-zw7fq Whats Boring about it?
My 35 Whelen shoots 200gr Barnes ttsx @ 2900fps , kicks less than a 300mag and makes a bigger hole . Gets no love , but is a real thumper out to at least 350yds . 225gr Accubonds do 2750 -2800 fps , take your pick . Old Elmer Keith thought it was a good elk round & it's even better today ! Cheers and enjoy
I’ve got one.
I've got two!😁
270 Win for the win. It did it for me.💪🏼👍🏼 I do own a 300 Win mag though.
the 30-06 is king!
My daughter has dropped two with her .243 one shot each, 264 and 150 yards. Also uses a 7 mm mag.
My picks are the 280ai and the 35 Whelan but thats just me. If a fellar isnt to familiar with recol the 308 is a great choice.
35 Whelen is an EXCELLENT choice my friend, by far my favorite cartridge (7mm-08 is a close second)
"The .30-'06 is never a mistake."-Col. Townsend Whelen.
If the 30-06 is out dated, what about the 6.5 Swede? How many moose and elk sized game has it taken over the years? Not to mention Africa.
The only problem with the 30-06 is if you buy it as your first gun, you don’t need to buy another rifle ever.
270 win and 270wsm for me, 7mm08 for my wife
Trusty 308 (Me), 7mm-08 (Wife), 6.5 PRC (Son)...
6.5x55 still amazing for me :)
You missed the 35 Whelan.
When he said “ I’ve shot more elk with the 308 than anything else “ ! Ron almost puked !!
It's Elk Week already? I still have my Shark Week decorations up.
I'm exploring the 7PRC as possible go to rifle with less recoil. However, so many in AK say 30 cal seems to kill faster than 7mm, and choose 300 Winchester. On one video this was demonstrated when a distant moose required several 7 Mag well placed shots, from an over the top custom rig. They commented that the 300 Win clearly hit harder and why that guide chose it along with a 45-70 lever gun. Deep down I suspect the 300 Win is the ultimate elk cartridge...for reasons such as manageable recoil, enough power, flat shooting and tons of ammo selection.
280ai with 160gn Nosler Partitions.
25-06 never gets any respect.
Grossly overlooked cartridge.
Is it really any better than 270? A much more common cartridge?
Never underestimate the little quarter bore
@@cobeerice8933 I prefer it over a .270 and just my experience is the felt recoil. I don’t like 30-06 and .270 because they are so snappy and maybe it’s just me but I don’t get that with my 25-06.
No respect at all
I'm surprised some American ammo company hasn't marketed a class of rifle projectiles yet marketed as the "Magic Bullet".
The .284 projectile is the king from way back !
Now that Paul Harrell is gone we could really use a Halloween cartridge video done in deadpan style. Best cartridges for zombies and werewolves and such. Please Ron?
Thanks guys!
Lots of great rifle calibers to use. In the end it comes down to bullet construction, bullet placement, and ft-lbs of energy at the target. I seem to recall Ron advocating for 1500 ft-lbs at the target for elk. Most rifles inside 300yds meet 1500 ft-lbs so the first 2 factors are more important. Bonded bullets, all copper, or the venerable Nosler Partition are hard to beat. I can’t go this year. To those of you who can….good luck!
I've got a 338 federal but if I had to pick another popular one it would be 3006
Something I wanted to 7RUM most people say over bore . Now that we have 180,190,195 even 200gr that 7Rum really performs and turns the 7mag into a beast as well . Just saying all the new bullets that we have to choose from now takes alot of the older cartridges to the next level . What do you thank .
Can it stabilize those longer bullets?
I would lean toward the 7 REM Mag but…I wouldn’t want to insult my .270!
300 win mag shot a 60in moose 607 yards 190 lrx Barnes great set up
.270!
303 brit
6.5prc is recoil friendly and has enough oomph to get er done
6.8 western is 270 with 175 grains done
Love the 6.8 western!! 165 gr accubond lr!
All those calibers are more than capable. I think the bullet selection is most important. Many people don't understand the difference between a varmint, cup and core, bonded, interlock, and solid bullets. Bullet construction and shot placement are much more important.
6.8 Western
Agreed!
280 AI, 30-338, 338. I have all 3 and all work.
338 Win and you are good to go.
Yup!
100 percent
Cartridge matters way less as long as it 25 cal and above as the bullet construction does.
280 AI for me. Thanks.
I love my 340 Wby, but there are NO flies on the 35 Whelen, especially with a good 225 at 2700- 2750 fps which is easily attainable in 24" bbl with published manual loads.
A mild .375 ruger from the Mega Fix by Q. suppressed
Rotational Energy
Regards from Africa 🐘
7mm mag
There are a lot of good calibers, what about the recoil of 300 win mag and 338 win mag. Aren't they similar?
.270 WBY magnum
300 wsm best all around cartridge
I'm liking all of mine. Just received my 2nd batch of Lapua brass today. Going to prime them now
Great video. 👍
Talk about trajectory and wind drift? Would a 308 Win/30-06 still be good for last opportunity at 400 yards on a windy day choice? How might a 300 Weatherby or big 7/28 Nosler compare?
Shoot whatever cartridge you want until you’re comfortable with it. That’s how you get comfortable with it. I shoot 6.5 creed 30-06 and 300 weatherby. Get use to it don’t be afraid of it It’s not gunna kill you. All a mind game. 300 win is easy compared to 300 weatherby. 2900-3000 fps vs 32-3300 fps. With a 180 . Big difference. Just shoot the cartridge and get use to it
I shoot a 300 win mag, switched from Remington core lokt to barnes 180 grn ttsx drops em
Listen, I know people have to make content or write stories. Everybody has their favorites, and they all love to argue for their favorite and against others. If you can handle it, 300 Wby will do anything you need done on this continent. For me, the discussion ends there. When I get older and don't want to hump the magnum action, or absorb the recoil (which, between you and me, really isn't that bad) maybe my choice will change. Until then, I've never felt better armed in the field than with a fast 30, and it's hard to beat the 300 Weatherby.
165 grain Federal Fusion.😮
My buddy has a 325 wsm…
That thing is filthy.🙄👍🥃
What about my favourite the 6.8 Western
30-06, 300prc
7mm mag! Thank you Tate
7mm Rem Mag
.338 Federal, .358 Winchester, .280 AI or the 6.8 Western. Surprised they weren't mentioned. Good video though. And, for the next one, Barnes TSX of course, just copper thanks, no lead in my meat or on my land or in my water.
Hey Ron keep up the good work elk week never gets old lol . I have a question what's a good Email to get in touch with you? I have some photos & vedios I would like to show you thank you for your years of articles and content God-bless you and your family God-bless America 🇺🇸
Ron your wrong😊 the 338 win mag is the absolute finest bestest cartridge!!!
You do not get bullet fragment and damage to meat with a larger caliber as they are a tougher bullet that holds together. I have taken mule dear with my 416 rem mag with hardly any waste. I have also used my 444 marlin with same results. I do however pack my 300 WM 90% of the time and again proper bullet that does not fragment is best. I have always used the Barnes X when they came out before that was partition, and tried to steer clear of cup and core when I could. I use the GMX all copper 165 gr4n in my 300 for everything now, with success I also owned a 375 Ruger and same results little damage. BULLET is the biggest choice especially in smaller calibers as they tend to be lighter and will break up on impact to bone. I have heard so many times hunters saying the 270 is way too much power so I use my 3006 as there is less damage, well the reason was bullet choice not the rifle
It's the velocity, junior.
@@jasonshults368 Wrong sunshine, it is Bullet construction and my 375 and 416 shot same speed as factory 300 win mag
I have 300wsm ....
300 win mag with Barnes TSX bullets is clearly the best overall, takes an elk down from any reasonable distance and no lead in your food.
Elk don't need a big cartridge
8.6 blk out
Do this same video for deer
I can't believe 35 Whelen, 280, (AI or Rem,) and 7mm-08 weren't even mentioned 😤
300 Win Mag for me.
IMHO, shot placement is more important than the caliber size!
Bullet construction equally important on game.
I know a guy he's shot 3 elk with a 243 all more then 200 yards, some caribou, pronghorn and a moose.
From the people I know, a russian spin on the moose cartridge:
1. .308 and 7,62x54R, most popular of the larger rifle rounds. There's plenty of them around and for decent price, they come with different bullets for rich and poor buyers. And you can always buy a semiauto rifle chambered for those rounds, so quick and easy follow up shots aren't a problem, and you get quite an advantage on the driven hunt
2. .30-06 - much less popular, but still a decent choice
3. 9,3x62 and 9x53R - former one is an alright option, it delivers a decent punch but there are import shortages and Tula Ammo is teasing people with "we'll put it in production soon just you wait". The latter is a true soviet oldtimer choice, a Brezhnev's favourite round, however it's out of production and so are the rifles, so handloading only.
4. 9,3x64 and.375 H&H - nuff said, but if you buy one, you have to invest in some handloading tools as well.
5. Last, but not least - 12 gauge slugs. The most versatile short (up to 70 meters) range kind of gun you may get, and it's not like you're going to shoot far in the dense forest or on a driven hunt. A proper slug (about 1 oz of lead), once it hut, never fails. The most popular kinds of slugs today are Polev slugs (Especially Polev-6, they're great sabot slugs fit for almost every kind of choke), Leningradka-2 (steel sabot slug inspired by Palle Blondeau, popular for it's flat nose so it shouldn't deform or deflect when it hits the tree branches) and Brenneke and it's clones (Cheddite, Tekhkrim Uno-35, etc). Old-timers and experimenters prefer 1900s "Ideal" slug by Stendebach, it's improved version - a soviet Meyer slug (tricky to handload but supposedly one of the best slugs for large game), or Palle Blondeau.
No straight wall cartridges for states that do not allow bottle necks?
Are there any straight wall states that have elk? If there are 45-70 is probably about the only choice. Maybe the new 400 legend.
@@GMdrivingMOPARguy I was asking the host why he did not include straight wall cartridges. He left them out! There are many, I know.
They not wearing Kevlar model 99 308 best medicine
I'd love to get my hands on a 475 turnbull, now that's a bruiser that will not fail.
Though, i believe the terrain has is more of a factor than a laughable amount of power. So, my ( Don't take anything I say as the truth, i have never done anything like this.) list for the closer ranges ( let's start at 50 yards and go to 200 yards.) is as follows:
1. 45-70 ( come on... You knew for close range this would be here.)
2. 444 marlin( practically a 45/70... But a smaller bullet.)
3. 308 win.( You probably could switch this out for anything from 303 british, 8.6 blk, 350 rem mag etc... you can't go wrong really.)
4. 30-06 ( this isn't really in any order... So don't get mad for me putting this below the 308.)
5. 348 win ( wasn't this the idea behind that cartridge? Besides,The model 71 is really cool.)
And for cartridges i didn't have the gull to put on the main list but want to mention a ways.
44 rem mag/ 45 colt +p
454 casull
480 ruger/ 475 linebaugh
460/ 500 s&w
375 Winchester
405 Winchester ( this and the 500 is a little too much if you ask me.)
9.3x62/9.3x74r
338 federal
I can't wait to see the next episode as i need something to hold me over until firearm season starts here in the empire state :)
Why don't you mention the 375 Ruger?
25-06 is a GEM. For me, the 25-06 is a laser beam (for antelope for me).
For Elk, I’m a 338 Win Mag guy.
300 win mag for everything
With more and more rifles coming from the factory ready for muzzle breaks and suppressors there's really no reason for anyone to be "under gunned" for elk. I've been using 7mm RM exclusively for all of my big game hunting for 20 years and it neck and neck between it and the 300 win mag amongst my hunting group/peers up here in Saskatchewan. Some of my dad's friends had 338s in there younger years but aged out of them.
30-378 Weatherby 😂
My friends and I agree, 338 win mag has less perceived recoil than a 300 win mag to us in our opinion. We also agree that 338 is smallest we carry in grizzly woods
Hand me anything i love recoil shot a 30-3378 weatherbee that was insane 😂 could hear shit for 15 minutes
Let's not be stupid people, 300 win mag is incredibly versatile and the best.
Good episode Ron. Personally still believe the ultimate rifle for the lower 48 is the .300 Weatherby. Absolutely love that round. However I am quickly falling in love with my new 7MM Weatherby Mag Mark V
Love you Ron
300RUM always getting neglected!
This awful topic is beat to death considering theres very little elk season thats open these days. Anyways, its difficult to not go 30-06 its been around, proven, and it really is better than ever.
Great video guys!
300 PRC maybe? I only have the 7 PRC, but I bet the 300 PRC would thump them. Of course the 300 Win mag will do the same
I have a 300 prc it’s amazing but I’m not sure in the real world if a game animal could tell the difference. Mine is just setup as a target rifle so take my opinion with a grain of salt. That said it frequently will either knock the whole plate and stand down or just wrap the plate around the top beam m. It hits noticeably different at 330 yards than my 308 does at 80.
My 300 PRC worked great 👍🏻
@@J_Staub awesome!
@@chadperry4021 awesome! Which rifle is it built off of?
325 WSM IMHO
That's what I use
@@carlpreston1680 I never been elk hunting yet but,...
Having got bit by the mag with the WSM n 300 RUM..and after playing with 325 a good deal n 8x57s.
If was going after em I would use it.
I honestly believe it checks all the so called we see mentioned today.
Still wish life had different plans n I still had em.. would definitely find another or try to.
Hey man you shoot a 270? Yeah, 270 grain bullets
No hate for Tate, but Joseph would be best for this conversation.
For thousands of years native Americans used bows and arrows. With a quiver they were "repeaters". Seriously folks, why the overkill?
Well Anybody talking Cartridges that says what the so called Elk Expert said- about the 06 ..
Looses are credibility with me.
Right there with spewing Hypemoor crap..
Have a Good Elk Week ..
I'll pass the rest of this one n maybe the rest of the shows.
They said it's a fine cartridge. You mad?
@@brianhoxworth3881 Nope not mad at all just what I said.
Anyone who claims the 30-06 is "outdated" does not know much about the cartridge or shooting a rifle.
7PRC
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Lots of great rifle calibers to use. In the end it comes down to bullet construction, bullet placement, and ft-lbs of energy at the target. I seem to recall Ron advocating for 1500 ft-lbs at the target for elk. Most rifles inside 300yds meet 1500 ft-lbs so the first 2 factors are more important. Bonded bullets, all copper, or the venerable Nosler Partition are hard to beat. I can’t go this year. To those of you who can….good luck!