yeah ...well westerners have very very fragile ego, more fragile than children, they can't have such sultry and sexy and arousing voice lines in west. no sir, it would be a field day with twitter babies.
Even in English, there's a moment where you show up before Alphinaud and Haurchefant offers to warm you up. Alphinaud walks up and says that would be great because he's cold, and Haurchefant's general reaction is "Oh, Alphinaud, you're here too."
French Haurchefant is a total trip too. When Alphinaud walks in he says "Oh fancy seeing you here Alphinaud, the WoL and I were just talking about the good old days" when he was actually hitting on you. XD
Reminds me a little of Outlaw Star. I don't remember a LOT about that anime (other than I liked it and the ending made no sense to me...), but I remember his friend, the head of that big corporation, who is openly gay and hits on the main character a lot. And while he calls the kid sidekick, Jim, bu his more formal name, James, he clearly sees him as just a kid while seeing Jean as the object of his desire.
Ahaha, *I love that* Haurchefant says all that thirsty stuff about adventurers in skimpy clothing with bulging muscles _right in front of Aymeric_ because Haurchefant don't even care. It makes me love them both even more. Aymeric is just like: _blinks in a dignified and noble manner_ "I'm no kinkshamer. Get down, if it please you," and Haurchfant is straight-up enthusiastically fantasizing about you out loud, and does not give an ounce of chocobo shite who can hear him.
When he goes "...SPLENDID!" And then his face goes from smile, to sort of neutral frowny, zeppie takes a hard step back with those WIDE kitty eyes. and you can tell she's thinking, '...shit!'
Even in English we could sense a bit of a connection with Haurchefant that went deeper than friendship. He was your biggest fan and cheerleader, but there was always something more personable about it, something possibly romantic brewing. He picks up with WoL when they are down, gives them a home when they have none. It's why most players like Ishgard more than any of the other grand companies and wished we could have them as an option. I think it's also why his death sticks with the WoL all the way to Endwalker.
Exactly this. The ENG version always felt like he was a kind and noble soul but with the underlying subtext of a bit of flirtation with the WoL that could have led somewhere if the story didn't have other ideas. I don't think I would have felt the same with the JPN version. Sure he is funny and memorable but considering the overall storyline when you meet him, it's way too much. I don't think I would be so wistful about JPN Haurchefant as I am with ENG one.
You know this makes a more believable reason why his father and brothers adopted us(that is what being ward is)... they thought we were to be the new in-laws soon and Tataru and Alphinaud were just our "extended family"
I leveled through MSQ as a PLD/NIN and when I went back to level DRK and got to Edmond's speech in the level 70 quest, I dead-ass broke down and had to quit playing for the day. So many feels.
If there is anyone I wouldn't mind hitting on me, it is Haurchefant. You are a cherished friend good sir knight. May the light of your warm smile ever shine apon the snows of Ishgard
POV: you’ve ruined Haurchefaunt’s war room table by walking over it while coming to talk to him for the thousandth time but you’re too cute for him to stay mad at
am so guilty of this lmao, every quest afterward i'm stomping all over his table because why should i be interacting with other people when we could be having cocoa together >:(
@@xTysere I always believed he had character. Its just eye-opening to see how much the localization changed him. It wouldn't surprise me, if this happened to other characters
Some Japanese tropes that don't translate, which is weird because they are grounded in western culture too. Haurchefant is lusty in love and war, like Achilles, who has his sexuality stripped too. The Iliad is spicy when its not an English translation. Asahi is power mad, emphasis on mad, and descending further into madness, power hungry is a fatal flaw, in the US they would have him on Fox and Friends. This same character flaw is why everyone ends up dead in Shakespeare.
English Haurchefant: A precious, beautiful cinnamon roll who must be protected at all costs, and who will be mourned forever. Japanese Haurchefant: Three sex offenders in a trenchcoat.
Lol, this. I'm of a multicultural heritage -- of which Japanese is one -- and I can understand Japanese well enough to not need subtitles, but...I just don't much care for that version of Haurchefant. At all. Not even a little. I'm familiar with the character trope Japanese Haurchefant follows and I was never fond of it. The English version still manages to convey his love for the WoL without it being so over the top (some might even say creepy). If anything, I think the love Haurchefant had for the WoL comes through better in English specifically because he /doesn't/ seem so 'thirsty'. It was more 'I deeply respect/admire you and value you as a person' and less 'I just want to bang you'.
@@Bandikitty I agree! a lot of ppl here in the comments seem to wish the localization team had left his characterization fully intact but I for one and very glad for the decision to change his vibe towards the player from verbal sexual harassment to admiration and yearning. love basing headcanons on his jp characterization though
@@Bandikitty exactly. I truly thought that the English version of Haurchefant was head over heels in love with the WoL and that they had a budding relationship at the time of his demise. It breaks my heart to see that he was reduced to a sleazebag in the original. I'm so, so happy with the localization team's decision to characterize him they way they did in English.
As a new player that has just reached Heavensward, this helps explain why he's so incredibly friendly to you as the player nearing the end of ARR; he was intended to be far, far more "friendly." Lol
@@RexZShadow In fact, this is addressed in Stormblood in a MSQ; - "Wait, his testimony doesn't make sense! He's probably setting us for a trap, we can't go in there!" - "So what? They can't bring enough to down us."
@@ZenZenDaijoubu actually it stems from super Kung fu action Jesus which I’ve been saying since I was a small child and I don’t remember where I got it from
I just started playing FFXIV and, even though the English voice lines are much more subtle, I always got the underlying impression of romanticism from Haurchefant. Even more so if you play through the Dragoon story line and [minor spoiler] you hear that he was willing to fight an entire contingency of guards to come and fight beside you when he realizes you were battling against a dragon. Haurchefant was always meant to be your Knight in Shining Armor... My character definitely loved him in return... and it hit somewhere deep in my heart when Lord Artoirel called me "sister".
Not to mention that, in the English lines, if you go talk to Biggs post-Vault, dude straight-up says "I, uhh, heard about your man Haurchefant... Sorry for your loss, player." One can imply that they mean 'your man' as in 'comrade', but they could have said 'friend' or similar to that. SO....I'M JUST SAYING....
Yeeees! But Estenien also gives us a lot, like that moment when he started pocking Alphy about he crying like a panicked girl because he was SO worried about us and the fight of the primal. Truly, I started laughting so hard then!!
@@StabYourBrain Have to rewatch in german since I play in English, but my friend was rather baffled when she found out about the japanese version. So I don't think he's like this in german XD
l have always played in Japanese since l still struggle with spoken English, he never bothered me the slightest. l found him funny and socially awkward with his voice lines, though the written English ones didn´t seem to match with his voice lines for me and now l understand why, haha. Cultural differences aside, l can understand why some may find his original personality creepy, but personally, l always thought he was just unable to properly express his feelings for your character, he didn´t seem to have any bad intentions beyond courting you...Aggressively. All in all, l definitely miss him.
@@ZeplaHQ Haha, me too. Not to say English is bad, all the opposite, l think they did a good job with it as well. ls just that l really enjoyed his hype tone in Japanese a lot, it perfectly matched his emotes and the way he approached you every time.
Haurchefant is, and will forever be, bae. Perving out a bit aside, he was always honest with the player, always believed in the player and treated the player like a true friend that he would do anything for. He always wanted to be there for you and help, and had so much personality that it actually left a void when he was gone. No one else has really filled that void since for me.
I just played thru this for the first time recently and you better believe I dropped everything to go create a brand new glamour plate with the alpine coat and finest dyes for the occasion...
@@gerse111 I wasn‘t really paying attention and thought it was like a big dinner party with many people. My most elegant dress was my wedding dress so I wore that. Didn‘t regret that decision at all once I realized I was just having a date with Aymeric lmao
There is no way it wasn't just a crush. The man full out LOVED the warrior of light enough to try to fight by their side (when the knights mentioned it took multiple men to hold him back), and give his life for the WoL. His thirst was intense, but he seriously was in love with the WoL
Like so many people, I fell in love with Haurchefant. He was like a big brother and best friend in one. When I got to 'that' part in HW, I straight-up started bawling hysterically and screaming in rage all at once. I was a wreck for at least three or so days, that's how much I had grown to love the guy.
Ever since that scene. I have honestly had my entire ff14 story revolve solely around that one single scenario. To this day I use his and ONLY his shield for my style on paladin. I even grinded out the whole vigil set and have it as a specific glamor solely because I wear it for him. And you won’t catch me crying, not now not ever. A smi-… *A smile better suits a hero after all.*
I THOUGHT IT WAS MY IMAGINATION... BUUUT idk i always felt like he and the main character (me) kind of had a thing??? At the time i thought i was being one sided ( O.O) but yea i felt something there.... i also felt like Aymeric noticed... and was jealous.... LMAO WOW sorry im having too much fun with the idea.
He and our character had a "thing" 100% no matter the language said thing might be a simple case of bromance, but it was there no wonder he found his way to all our hearts
@@ladyamberskye It definitely left my character cold, though. She respects him but... "I loved him even if we were never lovers, because he gave a shit about me, not what I was. And now you're trying to catch me on the rebound? Piss off. I mean that in the nicest possible way I can while trying not to scream."
イイ！！I am so happy you made this video! I always try and explain to my Non-Japanese speaking friends who play the game how truly dear Haurchy is (and why I love him so much) but now I can just show them this video! I never knew they changed the animations either so this was an interesting watch. To add, I also noticed whilst playing that Ser Aymeric is more forward and assertive in the Japanese (and shows more emotion) than in the English localisation. I wonder if anyone else noticed that? It's making me want to do detailed comparison now!!
SPOILERS After seeing this his final words are a bit more fitting. Japanese players probably thought he wanted nothing but to get into their pants but in the end he compliments their lovely smiles. It shows he wasn’t a shallow skirt-chaser in the end.
nope that cinematic in french is the exact same shit than in english our version is absolutely not translated from japanese but from english like everything else and the voice actor is dead inside the french haurchefant is really crappy and flat
While I love how japanese Harchie is very 'plz lemme smash', I do think the English version fits the overall conservative and repressive themes of Ishgard. He still is an Ishgardian after all, I'd expect that kind of discource from a Limsa Lominsan. As always, #NeverForgetHarchie #MahBro
He still has a comment about a very revealing outfit included in the delivery to Revenant's Toll with the hint it was meant as a gift for you from him. (revealing outfits are very hard and thus very expensive to obtain in ishgard due to the weather and conservative culture). So he still def has a crush on the WoL but isnt as blatant about it.
If you look at the way repressive societies affect the people that live in them, Japanese Haurchefant completely makes sense. Folks who grow up uber conservative will often go to the other extreme very quickly, which explains why the trope is so common in Japan(and helps explain why Japan has so much weird stuff).
JP audio with English text is my favorite, as the actual dialogue makes him a good hearted cinnamon roll, but the *performance* still conveys that he's a massive fucking fanboy of yours. The sexual bent is still lost in translation, but all the enthusiasm is there and it adds an endearing level of dorkiness to his character. But I can understand the actual text changes, cause some of that is pretty out there lmao.
I fell in love with him halfway through Heavensward, when he said “a knight lives to serve, to aid those in need”. Seeing how thirsty he is in Japanese I was like “why couldn’t you be like this in English”!!!!! Also that line “a warm bed waits for your return” all I thought was “are you in it 😘”
Hey Zepla, French Haurchie is MUCH the same as JP Haurchie. I was...quite shooketh the first time I saw his French dialogue xD Among the fic writers, though, Haurchefant is often characterized somewhere in the middle. The flirtiness and outright playfullness (and some of the thirst) as the JP/FR Haurch, but with the kindness, formality, and grandeur of the English version.
to be honest i was shocked by the serious of the english haurchefant since i'm french , this video just showed me why maybe english people might not like him as much as we do in france :D
@@Elypsen The French script for the game is translated from the Japanese script, while the English one is written as its own thing and is not a direct translation of the Japanese one. This may be the reason why
My favorite part is right after he asks if the player character is cold and come to his room to warm up, then alphinaud suddenly shows up and says something like that’s very kind of you, I really need a warm room right now. He didn’t expect him to be there so he greets him awkwardly and starts to talk about the quest like nothing happened. That’s where the story shows the player character is special. It’s such a pity the localization cuts all these lines. Usually they made up new lines but sometimes they just didn’t care and skipped them. Whether it’s because they want him sounds decent to female characters, or simply can’t deal with the gayness because he says the exact same lines to male characters, we will never know. Another interesting part that got lost in translation largely thanks to this is how it adds to aymeric’s character when he talks about the relationship between the player character and haurchefant (and no wonder that line is deleted, yes yes). He too has a close friend mode when he’s alone with player character, and a serious, formal mode when other people present. But he has to keep the distance in his position and can never get that close like haurchefant.
"how it adds to aymeric’s character when he talks about the relationship between the player character and haurchefant (and no wonder that line is deleted, yes yes)" wait....what does aymeric say? i must know?!?!
@@gerse111 "Yes, I know the two of you were close" is Aymeric's response if you choose "Life for death, I will have Zephirin's heart for this" after *that dungeon*
After the thirst I experienced from Haurchefant, Aymeric seemed pretty tame with his invitations to drink and dinner. This elezen really was something.
*Fangirl squeals throughout the whole video* *cries at the end* He was truly, truly splendid. Yoshi p why did you take the one NPC I actually cared about!? What happened in heavensward omg I needed like a day to mourn this fictional character. I was so distraught that was such BS like... here's a character that is almost loved by EVERYONE, he's a bro to some a husbando to others and actually gives a crap about the WoL. He will come in and save you if he's in the area, and even when the WoL took on shiva it took a dozen or half a dozen men to stop him from chasing after you while you fought a freaking primal! No npc before or since then had that much devotion towards the WoL. Zepla...please make another video about all the text of this splendid knight. It hurts to see how bad they butchered him in English but it feels much better knowing that he truly cared for the WoL, I mean most likely he was in love with the WoL but saying that is gonna make me cry again.
Actually, I just saw somewhere else recently from an interview with him that when Yoshi found out how much the English localization toned Haurchefant down from the Japanese, he was horrified. Unfortunately, too late to go back and fix it.
I know this comment is 2 years old, but I also had to take some time off after he died... I mourned him for two weeks at least, and even had a nightmare about it. Guess I was too attached 😅 But who can blame me, right? Now I just write stories where he's still alive and well, and even with all the different glamours I've put over my armor, I still fight with the Fortemps shield to honor him in-game 💔
In one of the early Heavensturn seasonal quests you are asked to choose between Horse and Chocobo for favorite steed. At some point Haurchfant shows up and when he is asked to choose his favorite steed he says something like he'd rather mount your character(!). There was more context about what he meant but boy.... Yeah they kind of HAD to edit that one in English
Spoilers! Japanese Haurchefant is the best. And I love that it doesn't matter what gender you are, his love for the WoL is deep. At first that kind of anime character where you are like... oh boy. But as we build towards HW they just develop him so much in the Japanese... makes that moment so powerful depending on how you the player reciprocated his emotions. For a straight male and my character a straight male, he was that over enthusiast homosexual friend who embraced who he was and wasn't afraid to let others know how he feels. His love and admiration where one and the same. While I didn't return his love, I appreciated all the help he proved through out the game. When he died... it left such a pit in my stomach. He sacrificed himself and I couldn't return his feelings in the way he wanted me too at the end. Or maybe I finally did but it took his sacrifice for me to finally show it. Or at least that I loved him as a friend. That genuine feeling of lost and guilt and love all mixed together hit hard during that moment. Honestly finally seeing the English version, its not surprising his death didn't impact some players as much as it has others. Honestly it's one of the reason I switched to the Japanese audio very early in the game. One reason was because I didn't really care for the English voices but I was also curious in the Japanese audio and how heavy the localization was. It's pretty drastic at times. Honestly I feel English Alphinaud and Alisaie are different people from the Japanese version or how they act if you just went strictly with the English localized subtitles. Makes me glad they put in more voice acting parts in the cutscenes.
I KNEW IT!!! I still totally got the he has hots for you vibes in the English version. Especially when all the other characters are like ooh yeah you two were closer than most. Hahahhaa.
Maybe the localization team didn't have the wherewithal to compose an entirely new shot for such dry dialogue. But an animated camera wouldn't fit the English dialogue anyway
You probably already know the answer to this... The anime community experiences it often with regards to accuracy - they just didn't want to keep it the same.
What happened to Haurchefant was truly devastating! I was brought to my knees, bloodlust cutting off all me senses. The only work coming to mind was "revenge"
I had a feeling he had the hots for the WoL. There's the cutscene where he walks around the table while "sizing you up" so to speak and I sure as hell didn't miss the fact that the ensuing dialog after had shirtless recruits doing pushups in the background. I still wish we got the Japanese dialog though. That would have been awesome or should I say splendid!
Not going to lie, I had a total crush on him and that was me playing the English version! I was devastated when you know what happened, was in absolute tears!
Late comment but a small note would be that a Japanese audience wouldn't really interpret this "sexually", he's the "overenthusiastic heroic jock" character See also: Major Armstrong from FMA, Ryohei from Hitman Reborn
HAHA! Loved the ending! I heard the French version can be even more raunchy. Although I kinda like that there are different versions I feel bad I didn't realise that haurchefant was hitting on us the whole time. Although there's still lil hints of it in the eng version. I don't know if i would feel the same way if I had read the japan version from the get go. Love that slow burn romance, mainly coz my char is too dense to notice someone flirting with them har har :')
Hello ! French player here o/ (sorry for my bad english btw) I'm sooo glad to understand japanese, even if the french traduction is quite good, his true words are much more... explicit x'D At first, I saw him creepy. Really. And now, he is my first one loved character ! Japanese version is the best :p Thank you for the laugh !
I had heard he was more forward in JP but I had NO idea exactly how far that went. He's so much more exuberant qq Bless this man. Thank you for sharing :) I still go visit him up there on that ledge from time to time, just to say hi.
I wish we got the Japanese version too! It would have made him a lot more interesting. Oddly enough, he didn't leave a big impression on my when I first played.
I love this thirsty Haurchefant, he's hilarious but I also like the more restrained one too. Honestly, if I encountered the forward sex maniac one first, I'd be shocked and mostly wary, but it might grow on me.
I loved Haurchefant from the first and every time I saw him in game I just wanted to give him a hug, recently I just finished that scene in Havensward... I still didn't recover enough to pick up the game again...
Even playing the US version, I got the vibe he was thirsty for the WoL, but was just being gentlemanly about it. Apparently Japan just drops all the pretense.
I personally think it has a lot to do with the dynamics of how Japanese and American/European cultures (especially today) view sexual advances. For the Japanese they can be a mix of endearing/comedic, for American and European audiences we're looking at a culture more weary of such open invitation.
Man, hearing these makes me think the devs truly desired to have him be the WoL’s love interest, which makes a certain scene even more emotional. Will not say what happens in case anyone hasn’t yet seen it. One of my favorite Elezen by far.
The devs explained how it happened and promised no more discrepancy between character localization in the future: forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/272855-Regarding-the-Localization-of-Haurchefant-in-the-EN-FR-DE-Versions-of-FFXIV
Feels more like an anime character in Japanese version... Personally I like the English version more, the maturity behind the lightheartedness shines brighter
There's a scene post ARR where Haurchefant stares at your legs and smiles, but says nothing flirty in English. the WoL still gives him a "wtf are you looking at" stare. The camera in said scene legit kinda zooms in on your thighs.....
LOOOOL OMG I would have loved flirty Haurchefant!!! Man such a shame they localized all that out. I guess they were afraid it wouldn't have been received well. Thank you for sharing this!
You know. A smile better befits a hero. I kinda always wondered about a few of our player reactions around him... they changed the lines but some of our animations are still in there. That man loved us, regardless of player race or gender, and I have to wonder why they changed it for us... granted I'm still confused about half the things they changed in Kingdom Hearts II for us too so, I would have prefered these original lines of text though. It would have had a much bigger impact!
O-oh my. Haurchefant...*blushes and fans self* But my opinon on it? I literally sat in my chair, hand over my mouth cause it was 3 am and my husabnd was asleep behind me, and *cried*. I love him...and definitely headcannon that because he'd often refer to him having gotten the hearth 'roaring' for my WoL's visit, she'd make time for social visits to sit down with him and drink hot chocolate and just vibe. They *definitely* had a thing in my mind and she's still devastated to this day, and keeps a momento on her always.
Since I play with the japanese voice acting and english subs, I always get confused when the subs are different from the dub. I am no expert in Japanese, but I noticed some weird things.
yeah if you watch enough anime, there are words you tend to pick up and instantly know what they mean and when the subtitles say something completely different, it can be jarring.
A friend and I had a hunch about him being into the WoL just weren't sure how deep it actually is/was but dang this level of thirst is chart breaking, I still love him even if he was pervy in the JP version
So he goes from being super friendly and rather sweet and almost poetic to kinda a over the top and almost sounding prevy/creepy? Yeah rathering English.
spoiler comment x x x when pc lurched forward to grab his hand with both of theirs during [scene] i fucking squealed so hard. A CULMINATION OF ALL MY FEELINGS. i'd wanted so bad for pc to have a moment where they totally break and show more emotion than ever before, and also have a moment confirming their feelings for haurchefant, and i got my wishes.....oh how the monkey's paw finger curled.
I also liked how the game convinces the player, that our characters have some kind of relationship with him... and all NPC during Heavensward seem to ship it D:
IF YOU ARE NEW TO FFXIV DO NOT READ THE COMMENTS!! TURN BACK NOW !! TURN BAACKK!! plzse
Welp... Too late for me. I hate my life now.
Thank you for this. Lol, almost kept scrolling. At least you saved one soul this day.
I didn't listen D: I only just started Heavensward
yeah ...well westerners have very very fragile ego, more fragile than children, they can't have such sultry and sexy and arousing voice lines in west. no sir, it would be a field day with twitter babies.
I really prefer the Japanese voice lines of him honestly. Absolutely wonderful! Probably the best character in all of heavensward... (Opinion)
Even in English, there's a moment where you show up before Alphinaud and Haurchefant offers to warm you up. Alphinaud walks up and says that would be great because he's cold, and Haurchefant's general reaction is "Oh, Alphinaud, you're here too."
French Haurchefant is a total trip too. When Alphinaud walks in he says "Oh fancy seeing you here Alphinaud, the WoL and I were just talking about the good old days" when he was actually hitting on you. XD
Yeah I always thought that was weird. Now I know why, Haruchefant really wanted to toss my chocobo feed
Reminds me a little of Outlaw Star. I don't remember a LOT about that anime (other than I liked it and the ending made no sense to me...), but I remember his friend, the head of that big corporation, who is openly gay and hits on the main character a lot. And while he calls the kid sidekick, Jim, bu his more formal name, James, he clearly sees him as just a kid while seeing Jean as the object of his desire.
I want to make a new character just to get to this part again, alas...... ; c; This somehow makes *spoiler* even more sad!
@@boopboop2659 With new game + coming, you can replay the story with your current character without having to restart completely!
Ahaha, *I love that* Haurchefant says all that thirsty stuff about adventurers in skimpy clothing with bulging muscles _right in front of Aymeric_ because Haurchefant don't even care. It makes me love them both even more. Aymeric is just like: _blinks in a dignified and noble manner_ "I'm no kinkshamer. Get down, if it please you," and Haurchfant is straight-up enthusiastically fantasizing about you out loud, and does not give an ounce of chocobo shite who can hear him.
Your characters dead face in response to his thirst is what really makes it
I'll be honest, that expression (and on occasion the PC's "dafuq..." face) made ALOT of scenes for me
You can almost hear the crickets
@@sephythelark I could hear em lol
It was evening and my window was open XDDDDDDDDD
When he goes "...SPLENDID!" And then his face goes from smile, to sort of neutral frowny,
zeppie takes a hard step back with those WIDE kitty eyes. and you can tell she's thinking,
'...shit!'
She's like "not this again please God"
You know, I was just thinking the other day how cool it'd be if we got a love interest in the game. Turns out we had one the whole time...
At least part of the time...
I still want a second date with Aymeric
@@HawkinaBox SAME
It truly gives me conniptions that there's only one date with Ser Aymeric.
@@dargons5145 AND Alisae had the audacity to cut it short.
Someone drop a gallon of holy water over this thirsty Elezen.
Considering the climate he lives in, that would probably kill hi-.....oh, wait......
@@ValkyrieTiara Nu :(
@@ValkyrieTiara lel
You mean very icy cold holy water!
@@ValkyrieTiara too soon
Even in English we could sense a bit of a connection with Haurchefant that went deeper than friendship. He was your biggest fan and cheerleader, but there was always something more personable about it, something possibly romantic brewing. He picks up with WoL when they are down, gives them a home when they have none. It's why most players like Ishgard more than any of the other grand companies and wished we could have them as an option. I think it's also why his death sticks with the WoL all the way to Endwalker.
your comment summarizes my thoughts exactly, which is why eng Haurchefant is my husbando
Exactly this. The ENG version always felt like he was a kind and noble soul but with the underlying subtext of a bit of flirtation with the WoL that could have led somewhere if the story didn't have other ideas. I don't think I would have felt the same with the JPN version. Sure he is funny and memorable but considering the overall storyline when you meet him, it's way too much. I don't think I would be so wistful about JPN Haurchefant as I am with ENG one.
Best character in the game in my opinion. He believed us when no one did and he sacrificed himself for us. I will NEVER forget you Haurchefant...
rip humblefart...
"Humblefart"
OH MY GOD HAHAHAHAHAHAH
(I love him, but that nickname is the best one yet. Please don't hate me, humblefart T^T)
It was awkward for me since I played as a Paladin and saw someone jumping up in front of my shield.
@@CrystVeno xD If it makes you feel better, I was in Astro I think at the time....
Forget him instantly tbh
You know this makes a more believable reason why his father and brothers adopted us(that is what being ward is)... they thought we were to be the new in-laws soon and Tataru and Alphinaud were just our "extended family"
I totally agree with this headcannon, its damn near what I thought as well.
I couldn't help but to see his dad as my own father-in-law during the cutscenes following.
XD
I played as a male character though 😂
I leveled through MSQ as a PLD/NIN and when I went back to level DRK and got to Edmond's speech in the level 70 quest, I dead-ass broke down and had to quit playing for the day. So many feels.
Also, don't forget that in 2014 heavensturn event Haurchefant appears at the end and shouts that he wants you for his "Personal Riding Steed"
That part always stood out to me. I didn't even realize who that was until now. lol
…WHAT?
I wish I could play older content just to see this instead of looking it up xD
@@skeeeeet5954 I wouldn't believe it if I took the translations to google myself
hmm... kinky and I love it. too bad I won't ever chance to see that.
If there is anyone I wouldn't mind hitting on me, it is Haurchefant. You are a cherished friend good sir knight. May the light of your warm smile ever shine apon the snows of Ishgard
Oof, friendzoned him.
POV: you’ve ruined Haurchefaunt’s war room table by walking over it while coming to talk to him for the thousandth time but you’re too cute for him to stay mad at
I've done this on my mouth lmao and one time I stood on his desk before initiating the convo to see what would happen.
am so guilty of this lmao, every quest afterward i'm stomping all over his table because why should i be interacting with other people when we could be having cocoa together >:(
I am gunna say that BOTH versions are canon. English is what he's saying but Japanese is what he's thinking ;3
I accept this theory.
Absolutely.
This is my headcanon now
That is brilliant!
This is perfect. :)
It's funny 'cause in the English version, it was still pretty evident to me that he was really into the WoL. Still, we were robbed!!!
haha true
Its like he's a completely different character
Or you know...actually a character, finally.
@@xTysere I always believed he had character. Its just eye-opening to see how much the localization changed him. It wouldn't surprise me, if this happened to other characters
@@xTysere lel
Some Japanese tropes that don't translate, which is weird because they are grounded in western culture too. Haurchefant is lusty in love and war, like Achilles, who has his sexuality stripped too. The Iliad is spicy when its not an English translation. Asahi is power mad, emphasis on mad, and descending further into madness, power hungry is a fatal flaw, in the US they would have him on Fox and Friends. This same character flaw is why everyone ends up dead in Shakespeare.
@@Gee-xb7rt ?
English Haurchefant: A precious, beautiful cinnamon roll who must be protected at all costs, and who will be mourned forever.
Japanese Haurchefant: Three sex offenders in a trenchcoat.
I am seriously reconsidering the "Knight of House Fortemp" title I use for so long now. Japanese is the house of weird.
English Haurchefant: "Very well then"
Japanese Haurchefant: "You want some fuc"
Lol, this. I'm of a multicultural heritage -- of which Japanese is one -- and I can understand Japanese well enough to not need subtitles, but...I just don't much care for that version of Haurchefant. At all. Not even a little. I'm familiar with the character trope Japanese Haurchefant follows and I was never fond of it. The English version still manages to convey his love for the WoL without it being so over the top (some might even say creepy). If anything, I think the love Haurchefant had for the WoL comes through better in English specifically because he /doesn't/ seem so 'thirsty'. It was more 'I deeply respect/admire you and value you as a person' and less 'I just want to bang you'.
@@Bandikitty I agree! a lot of ppl here in the comments seem to wish the localization team had left his characterization fully intact but I for one and very glad for the decision to change his vibe towards the player from verbal sexual harassment to admiration and yearning. love basing headcanons on his jp characterization though
@@Bandikitty exactly. I truly thought that the English version of Haurchefant was head over heels in love with the WoL and that they had a budding relationship at the time of his demise. It breaks my heart to see that he was reduced to a sleazebag in the original. I'm so, so happy with the localization team's decision to characterize him they way they did in English.
As a new player that has just reached Heavensward, this helps explain why he's so incredibly friendly to you as the player nearing the end of ARR; he was intended to be far, far more "friendly." Lol
I mean there’s also the fact that you’re literally Super combat action jesus and that you saved his friends life
@@perrydunetz882 and yet every villians think they can take you in a fight when you constantly do shit none of them can do lolol.
@@RexZShadow In fact, this is addressed in Stormblood in a MSQ;
- "Wait, his testimony doesn't make sense! He's probably setting us for a trap, we can't go in there!"
- "So what? They can't bring enough to down us."
@@perrydunetz882 "super combat action jesus" is now my new favorite phrase
@@ZenZenDaijoubu actually it stems from super Kung fu action Jesus which I’ve been saying since I was a small child and I don’t remember where I got it from
I just started playing FFXIV and, even though the English voice lines are much more subtle, I always got the underlying impression of romanticism from Haurchefant. Even more so if you play through the Dragoon story line and [minor spoiler] you hear that he was willing to fight an entire contingency of guards to come and fight beside you when he realizes you were battling against a dragon.
Haurchefant was always meant to be your Knight in Shining Armor... My character definitely loved him in return... and it hit somewhere deep in my heart when Lord Artoirel called me "sister".
Not to mention that, in the English lines, if you go talk to Biggs post-Vault, dude straight-up says "I, uhh, heard about your man Haurchefant... Sorry for your loss, player."
One can imply that they mean 'your man' as in 'comrade', but they could have said 'friend' or similar to that.
SO....I'M JUST SAYING....
@@HSvideoSims3 Or maybe he's Irish. Yer man, yer wan, dem lot!
I was surprised by how loving and supportive the Heavensward boys were. Didn't even know how much I needed that. Still miss him.
YES! They are pretty fantastic and I miss them a lot QwQ specially you know who.
Even Estenien, grumpy ol' SOB that he is.
Yeeees! But Estenien also gives us a lot, like that moment when he started pocking Alphy about he crying like a panicked girl because he was SO worried about us and the fight of the primal. Truly, I started laughting so hard then!!
btw, the lines are the same for male characters. we love a bisexual king
WE STAN
that is probably why it was cut out for the english translation.
In german and french it wasn't altered much, i think.
Now I know why there's so much doujin about him in Japan...
Haurchefaunt is WoL-sexual XD
@@StabYourBrain Have to rewatch in german since I play in English, but my friend was rather baffled when she found out about the japanese version. So I don't think he's like this in german XD
l have always played in Japanese since l still struggle with spoken English, he never bothered me the slightest. l found him funny and socially awkward with his voice lines, though the written English ones didn´t seem to match with his voice lines for me and now l understand why, haha. Cultural differences aside, l can understand why some may find his original personality creepy, but personally, l always thought he was just unable to properly express his feelings for your character, he didn´t seem to have any bad intentions beyond courting you...Aggressively.
All in all, l definitely miss him.
I love the original Japanese, it's very endearing
@@ZeplaHQ Haha, me too. Not to say English is bad, all the opposite, l think they did a good job with it as well. ls just that l really enjoyed his hype tone in Japanese a lot, it perfectly matched his emotes and the way he approached you every time.
Exactly. A little awkward, but pretty normal. It just doesn't translate directly in the same way.
Haurchefant is, and will forever be, bae. Perving out a bit aside, he was always honest with the player, always believed in the player and treated the player like a true friend that he would do anything for. He always wanted to be there for you and help, and had so much personality that it actually left a void when he was gone. No one else has really filled that void since for me.
And shortly after that.... Also lost a somewhat big sister figure also ;-;
Don't look at me so....
A smile better suits a hero...
😭😭😭
😭😭😭
😭😭😭
Years can pass by....those words will never hurt me any less
T^T
Aw, shit man...... you got my waterworks leaking again :(
This makes me wonder what Aymeric is saying in Japanese during the dinner scene! Oh please tell us.
MissTayzha thissss
Oh god....yes
LMAO YESS!!
I just played thru this for the first time recently and you better believe I dropped everything to go create a brand new glamour plate with the alpine coat and finest dyes for the occasion...
@@gerse111 I wasn‘t really paying attention and thought it was like a big dinner party with many people. My most elegant dress was my wedding dress so I wore that. Didn‘t regret that decision at all once I realized I was just having a date with Aymeric lmao
I knew I wasn’t imagining it! And people called me silly for thinking he had a crush on the warrior of light!
Not just a crush. That man full blown lusted for us. Lol
There is no way it wasn't just a crush. The man full out LOVED the warrior of light enough to try to fight by their side (when the knights mentioned it took multiple men to hold him back), and give his life for the WoL. His thirst was intense, but he seriously was in love with the WoL
I caught it as well during my playthrough. In my headcanon for my character she fell for him and they became lovers.
There is a lot of fluff for many of the NPCs, so you can basically make any couple work for yourself. Hauchefaunt is just... a bit more pronounced.
Broooooo especially the death scene I screamed "they killed my baby daddy!!!"
Like so many people, I fell in love with Haurchefant. He was like a big brother and best friend in one. When I got to 'that' part in HW, I straight-up started bawling hysterically and screaming in rage all at once. I was a wreck for at least three or so days, that's how much I had grown to love the guy.
I had similar experience, after that scene I exited and cried myself to sleep for 2 more days. I was so depressed.
Ever since that scene. I have honestly had my entire ff14 story revolve solely around that one single scenario. To this day I use his and ONLY his shield for my style on paladin.
I even grinded out the whole vigil set and have it as a specific glamor solely because I wear it for him.
And you won’t catch me crying, not now not ever. A smi-… *A smile better suits a hero after all.*
@@Starlitsoul0359i also use his shield, tho dun use the set
I THOUGHT IT WAS MY IMAGINATION... BUUUT idk i always felt like he and the main character (me) kind of had a thing??? At the time i thought i was being one sided ( O.O) but yea i felt something there.... i also felt like Aymeric noticed... and was jealous.... LMAO WOW sorry im having too much fun with the idea.
He and our character had a "thing" 100% no matter the language
said thing might be a simple case of bromance, but it was there
no wonder he found his way to all our hearts
🤔 X
Totally agree. Americ totally noticed and then sorta slowly moves in after the...event....god that made me cry.
@@ladyamberskye he used it to his advantage i think no one can deny that
@@ladyamberskye It definitely left my character cold, though. She respects him but... "I loved him even if we were never lovers, because he gave a shit about me, not what I was. And now you're trying to catch me on the rebound? Piss off. I mean that in the nicest possible way I can while trying not to scream."
イイ！！I am so happy you made this video! I always try and explain to my Non-Japanese speaking friends who play the game how truly dear Haurchy is (and why I love him so much) but now I can just show them this video! I never knew they changed the animations either so this was an interesting watch.
To add, I also noticed whilst playing that Ser Aymeric is more forward and assertive in the Japanese (and shows more emotion) than in the English localisation. I wonder if anyone else noticed that? It's making me want to do detailed comparison now!!
∑d(･д･*)ィィ!!
SPOILERS
After seeing this his final words are a bit more fitting. Japanese players probably thought he wanted nothing but to get into their pants but in the end he compliments their lovely smiles. It shows he wasn’t a shallow skirt-chaser in the end.
In french he says "you have a lovely smile, please don't forget mine" which i find even more heartbreaking
Hauchefaunt could be described as the most passionate fan of the WoL.
@@i.147 Thanks for making me cry ;w; ♥
When he died, what he said made me think “wait, was he in love with me?”
Turns out he was
It makes it more painful!!!!!!
*Walking up to a certain cliff overlooking Ishgard, you see a man in green.*
"... Oh, it's you. You still visit his grave? He would be glad."
YEE!
I cannot believe how much of a...enthusiast Haurchefant is on bodies xD
Every time I heard YEE I fucking died.
Why do you think he has 2 people doing squats right in his main room
I always felt we had untold chemistry between us. Now I know I wasn’t imagining it.
The French is translated from Japanese so I knew all along that he was a perv. AND YET... I still miss the guy!
Yup...
He was SPLENDID...
nope that cinematic in french is the exact same shit than in english our version is absolutely not translated from japanese but from english like everything else
and the voice actor is dead inside the french haurchefant is really crappy and flat
@@agentx320 French version is absolutly not translated from english, and Harchefand's quotes aren't censored or anything
Haurchefant wasn't a perv if the interest was mutual
@林 wait, really? I thought the Chinese version got censored too
While I love how japanese Harchie is very 'plz lemme smash', I do think the English version fits the overall conservative and repressive themes of Ishgard. He still is an Ishgardian after all, I'd expect that kind of discource from a Limsa Lominsan.
As always, #NeverForgetHarchie #MahBro
He still has a comment about a very revealing outfit included in the delivery to Revenant's Toll with the hint it was meant as a gift for you from him. (revealing outfits are very hard and thus very expensive to obtain in ishgard due to the weather and conservative culture).
So he still def has a crush on the WoL but isnt as blatant about it.
If you look at the way repressive societies affect the people that live in them, Japanese Haurchefant completely makes sense. Folks who grow up uber conservative will often go to the other extreme very quickly, which explains why the trope is so common in Japan(and helps explain why Japan has so much weird stuff).
@@tenjenk
I wanna see what that outfit is now though, we never received it D:
@@AsianIdiots323 Best guess at the time was the Colosseum gear.
SPLENDID VIDEO
SPLENDID DARK MIQO'TE
SPLENDID ZEPLA
SPLENDID HUMOUR
SPLENDID IS NOW MY FAVORITE WORST WORD IN MY PICK-UP VOCABULARY
JP audio with English text is my favorite, as the actual dialogue makes him a good hearted cinnamon roll, but the *performance* still conveys that he's a massive fucking fanboy of yours. The sexual bent is still lost in translation, but all the enthusiasm is there and it adds an endearing level of dorkiness to his character. But I can understand the actual text changes, cause some of that is pretty out there lmao.
I love the horrified expression on your face after the lines. XD
Everyone ships themselves with him and I don't blame them.
Warrior of Light sexual indeed....
Splendid.
I fell in love with him halfway through Heavensward, when he said “a knight lives to serve, to aid those in need”. Seeing how thirsty he is in Japanese I was like “why couldn’t you be like this in English”!!!!! Also that line “a warm bed waits for your return” all I thought was “are you in it 😘”
Hey Zepla, French Haurchie is MUCH the same as JP Haurchie. I was...quite shooketh the first time I saw his French dialogue xD
Among the fic writers, though, Haurchefant is often characterized somewhere in the middle. The flirtiness and outright playfullness (and some of the thirst) as the JP/FR Haurch, but with the kindness, formality, and grandeur of the English version.
Perfection, I love the mix of the two, it gives him a lovely charm
to be honest i was shocked by the serious of the english haurchefant since i'm french , this video just showed me why maybe english people might not like him as much as we do in france :D
@@Elypsen It might be a cultural thing. He's very beloved in the English versions too.
Best of both worlds. 😏
@@Elypsen The French script for the game is translated from the Japanese script, while the English one is written as its own thing and is not a direct translation of the Japanese one. This may be the reason why
My favorite part is right after he asks if the player character is cold and come to his room to warm up, then alphinaud suddenly shows up and says something like that’s very kind of you, I really need a warm room right now. He didn’t expect him to be there so he greets him awkwardly and starts to talk about the quest like nothing happened. That’s where the story shows the player character is special.
It’s such a pity the localization cuts all these lines. Usually they made up new lines but sometimes they just didn’t care and skipped them. Whether it’s because they want him sounds decent to female characters, or simply can’t deal with the gayness because he says the exact same lines to male characters, we will never know.
Another interesting part that got lost in translation largely thanks to this is how it adds to aymeric’s character when he talks about the relationship between the player character and haurchefant (and no wonder that line is deleted, yes yes). He too has a close friend mode when he’s alone with player character, and a serious, formal mode when other people present. But he has to keep the distance in his position and can never get that close like haurchefant.
"how it adds to aymeric’s character when he talks about the relationship between the player character and haurchefant (and no wonder that line is deleted, yes yes)" wait....what does aymeric say? i must know?!?!
@@gerse111 "Yes, I know the two of you were close" is Aymeric's response if you choose "Life for death, I will have Zephirin's heart for this" after *that dungeon*
@@JohnSears1970 That line wasn't deleted in English though, so I'm not sure if that's the one he meant.
@@xelestial_sky yeah I just got this line recently this month, it's not deleted at all
After the thirst I experienced from Haurchefant, Aymeric seemed pretty tame with his invitations to drink and dinner. This elezen really was something.
I CRIED SO HARD WHEN HE TOLD ME I HAD A SPLENDID SMILE! AHHHHHHHH!
*Fangirl squeals throughout the whole video*
*cries at the end* He was truly, truly splendid. Yoshi p why did you take the one NPC I actually cared about!?
What happened in heavensward omg I needed like a day to mourn this fictional character. I was so distraught that was such BS like...
here's a character that is almost loved by EVERYONE, he's a bro to some a husbando to others and actually gives a crap about the WoL. He will come in and save you if he's in the area, and even when the WoL took on shiva it took a dozen or half a dozen men to stop him from chasing after you while you fought a freaking primal! No npc before or since then had that much devotion towards the WoL. Zepla...please make another video about all the text of this splendid knight. It hurts to see how bad they butchered him in English but it feels much better knowing that he truly cared for the WoL, I mean most likely he was in love with the WoL but saying that is gonna make me cry again.
Actually, I just saw somewhere else recently from an interview with him that when Yoshi found out how much the English localization toned Haurchefant down from the Japanese, he was horrified. Unfortunately, too late to go back and fix it.
@@jsalemiva Got a link?
Dark Fox have to find it again; think I saw it on the se forums
same sis...
I know this comment is 2 years old, but I also had to take some time off after he died... I mourned him for two weeks at least, and even had a nightmare about it. Guess I was too attached 😅 But who can blame me, right?
Now I just write stories where he's still alive and well, and even with all the different glamours I've put over my armor, I still fight with the Fortemps shield to honor him in-game 💔
I always thought Haurchefant had a secret thing for the Warrior of Light. I guess it's not so secret in the JP version :P
In one of the early Heavensturn seasonal quests you are asked to choose between Horse and Chocobo for favorite steed.
At some point Haurchfant shows up and when he is asked to choose his favorite steed he says something like he'd rather mount your character(!). There was more context about what he meant but boy....
Yeah they kind of HAD to edit that one in English
Fun fact, his Triple Triad card has his quote as "I say, be my steed!" from that quest.
Yeah I remember that. He says the same in german
The fact he keeps talking about 'bulging muscles' is hilarious to me since my character is a lalafell... not sure there's much muscle there, Haurchie.
He has a crush on the WoL! It's super cute
Spoilers!
Japanese Haurchefant is the best. And I love that it doesn't matter what gender you are, his love for the WoL is deep. At first that kind of anime character where you are like... oh boy. But as we build towards HW they just develop him so much in the Japanese... makes that moment so powerful depending on how you the player reciprocated his emotions. For a straight male and my character a straight male, he was that over enthusiast homosexual friend who embraced who he was and wasn't afraid to let others know how he feels. His love and admiration where one and the same. While I didn't return his love, I appreciated all the help he proved through out the game. When he died... it left such a pit in my stomach. He sacrificed himself and I couldn't return his feelings in the way he wanted me too at the end. Or maybe I finally did but it took his sacrifice for me to finally show it. Or at least that I loved him as a friend. That genuine feeling of lost and guilt and love all mixed together hit hard during that moment.
Honestly finally seeing the English version, its not surprising his death didn't impact some players as much as it has others. Honestly it's one of the reason I switched to the Japanese audio very early in the game. One reason was because I didn't really care for the English voices but I was also curious in the Japanese audio and how heavy the localization was. It's pretty drastic at times. Honestly I feel English Alphinaud and Alisaie are different people from the Japanese version or how they act if you just went strictly with the English localized subtitles. Makes me glad they put in more voice acting parts in the cutscenes.
hard to believe someone could be so thirsty when the zone they live in is covered in frozen water.
@Laplace's Demon russians have vodka on tap as well as water, they cant be thirstier than haurchie
@Laplace's Demon Not much to do during the winters other than each other, probably.
@Laplace's Demon Yeah, I think I'll keep my sweet summer child innocence in that regards. XD
I KNEW IT!!! I still totally got the he has hots for you vibes in the English version. Especially when all the other characters are like ooh yeah you two were closer than most. Hahahhaa.
Why is the Japanese camera work so much more...
animated? than the English version?
Maybe the localization team didn't have the wherewithal to compose an entirely new shot for such dry dialogue. But an animated camera wouldn't fit the English dialogue anyway
@@chuchu9649 Perhaps. I mean instead of dynamic camera's we get Meme's galore XD
You probably already know the answer to this...
The anime community experiences it often with regards to accuracy - they just didn't want to keep it the same.
Because they toned down the lines, having the same camerawork wouldn't… work, which is a shame.
dull camera work for a dull re-write.
What happened to Haurchefant was truly devastating! I was brought to my knees, bloodlust cutting off all me senses. The only work coming to mind was "revenge"
I had a feeling he had the hots for the WoL. There's the cutscene where he walks around the table while "sizing you up" so to speak and I sure as hell didn't miss the fact that the ensuing dialog after had shirtless recruits doing pushups in the background. I still wish we got the Japanese dialog though. That would have been awesome or should I say splendid!
Those knights were so distracting, I was like why are the vibes in here distinctly sexual but now I know why.
"Much more forward" doesn't even begin to describe this lol
Take a shot for each zoom in on Haurchefant's extreme devotion and thirst.
Zepla's character's reactions to the lines killed me, my sides are in orbit XD
Not going to lie, I had a total crush on him and that was me playing the English version! I was devastated when you know what happened, was in absolute tears!
Late comment but a small note would be that a Japanese audience wouldn't really interpret this "sexually", he's the "overenthusiastic heroic jock" character
See also: Major Armstrong from FMA, Ryohei from Hitman Reborn
HAHA! Loved the ending! I heard the French version can be even more raunchy. Although I kinda like that there are different versions I feel bad I didn't realise that haurchefant was hitting on us the whole time. Although there's still lil hints of it in the eng version. I don't know if i would feel the same way if I had read the japan version from the get go. Love that slow burn romance, mainly coz my char is too dense to notice someone flirting with them har har :')
I didn't think it was possible to love this man any more than I already did. I miss you Haurchefant! ;~;
I now know why Larry plays in Japanese
you mean most of the players? :p
@@ShogounKaliend I mean...japanese sounds way better than more than half the dry english lines in most media nowadays...
Hello ! French player here o/ (sorry for my bad english btw)
I'm sooo glad to understand japanese, even if the french traduction is quite good, his true words are much more... explicit x'D
At first, I saw him creepy. Really. And now, he is my first one loved character !
Japanese version is the best :p Thank you for the laugh !
HAURCHEFANT 😭 *ugly crying noises*
I had heard he was more forward in JP but I had NO idea exactly how far that went. He's so much more exuberant qq Bless this man. Thank you for sharing :) I still go visit him up there on that ledge from time to time, just to say hi.
I want THIS Haurchefaunt, easily my favorite character if I saw him saying this
Yeah, went from a character I didn't acknowledge to someone so interesting c:
Yeah, no. The Japanese version is embarrassing. So glad the English translators were older than 12.
I wish we got the Japanese version too! It would have made him a lot more interesting. Oddly enough, he didn't leave a big impression on my when I first played.
@@carlosdanger5379 Glad someone agrees. Those JP lines made me feel a spike of iritation.
I love this thirsty Haurchefant, he's hilarious but I also like the more restrained one too. Honestly, if I encountered the forward sex maniac one first, I'd be shocked and mostly wary, but it might grow on me.
I love how he sounds like fanfic
English Haurchefant: Warrior of Light, you're like a brother/sister to me!
Japanese Haurchefant: But that's okay Onne-Chan, we're not blood related~
I loved Haurchefant from the first and every time I saw him in game I just wanted to give him a hug, recently I just finished that scene in Havensward... I still didn't recover enough to pick up the game again...
Even playing the US version, I got the vibe he was thirsty for the WoL, but was just being gentlemanly about it. Apparently Japan just drops all the pretense.
I figure English may be what he's sayin', but Japanese be what he thinkin'. :D Ishgard being all prim and proper on the surface, after all.
I personally think it has a lot to do with the dynamics of how Japanese and American/European cultures (especially today) view sexual advances. For the Japanese they can be a mix of endearing/comedic, for American and European audiences we're looking at a culture more weary of such open invitation.
Mainly because it comes with a threat of someone doing something non consensual. Japanese tend to have much more self control.
I AM BLUSHING FAM!!! There should've been dialogue to say yes to everything he's asking!
Man, hearing these makes me think the devs truly desired to have him be the WoL’s love interest, which makes a certain scene even more emotional. Will not say what happens in case anyone hasn’t yet seen it. One of my favorite Elezen by far.
When that scene happened, I could not take it in any other way. Especially as the WoL has the most emotional response to it ever.
The devs explained how it happened and promised no more discrepancy between character localization in the future:
forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/272855-Regarding-the-Localization-of-Haurchefant-in-the-EN-FR-DE-Versions-of-FFXIV
well in my personal head canon, my wol certainly got warmed up in his bed *caugh*
I can't believe people would flatten and deflate the vibrancy and passion of life in all its glory
I wish at that certain heartbreaking moment I could’ve given him a smile with a kiss :.
THEY DONE MY BOY DIRTY.
I'm BIG MAD I couldn't save him. I know it was a cut scene, but I was ready to go with a Swiftcast Raise.
It really do suck ass being a healer and being unable to do shite. At least they had Alphinaud try.
Feels more like an anime character in Japanese version... Personally I like the English version more, the maturity behind the lightheartedness shines brighter
There's a scene post ARR where Haurchefant stares at your legs and smiles, but says nothing flirty in English. the WoL still gives him a "wtf are you looking at" stare. The camera in said scene legit kinda zooms in on your thighs.....
LOOOOL OMG I would have loved flirty Haurchefant!!! Man such a shame they localized all that out. I guess they were afraid it wouldn't have been received well. Thank you for sharing this!
I would summon a Primal of Haurchefant. Like... the wol's grief was so great you summon a Knight that looks like Haurchefant in Shadowbringers.
You know. A smile better befits a hero.
I kinda always wondered about a few of our player reactions around him... they changed the lines but some of our animations are still in there. That man loved us, regardless of player race or gender, and I have to wonder why they changed it for us... granted I'm still confused about half the things they changed in Kingdom Hearts II for us too so, I would have prefered these original lines of text though. It would have had a much bigger impact!
O-oh my. Haurchefant...*blushes and fans self*
But my opinon on it? I literally sat in my chair, hand over my mouth cause it was 3 am and my husabnd was asleep behind me, and *cried*. I love him...and definitely headcannon that because he'd often refer to him having gotten the hearth 'roaring' for my WoL's visit, she'd make time for social visits to sit down with him and drink hot chocolate and just vibe. They *definitely* had a thing in my mind and she's still devastated to this day, and keeps a momento on her always.
Why did you make remember him?! *sadness intensifies*
Since I play with the japanese voice acting and english subs, I always get confused when the subs are different from the dub.
I am no expert in Japanese, but I noticed some weird things.
yeah if you watch enough anime, there are words you tend to pick up and instantly know what they mean and when the subtitles say something completely different, it can be jarring.
A friend and I had a hunch about him being into the WoL just weren't sure how deep it actually is/was but dang this level of thirst is chart breaking, I still love him even if he was pervy in the JP version
So he goes from being super friendly and rather sweet and almost poetic to kinda a over the top and almost sounding prevy/creepy? Yeah rathering English.
All he wants is a piece of your "Echo." Show him that blessing of yours~
Don't know how there is any snow left in Ishgard with this hot-blooded knight around.
Yes, In the french version we have the same Meanings As the Japanese version, What a naughty boy :3
Being splendid better suits a hero
He did say we should always smile. Thanks, buddy.
I switched to Japanese early on in the game, so I was offered everything he showed with emotion, it's amazing
He basically loved me..?
I miss him even more, now!
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when pc lurched forward to grab his hand with both of theirs during [scene] i fucking squealed so hard. A CULMINATION OF ALL MY FEELINGS. i'd wanted so bad for pc to have a moment where they totally break and show more emotion than ever before, and also have a moment confirming their feelings for haurchefant, and i got my wishes.....oh how the monkey's paw finger curled.
Oh man, his siblings make a little bit more sense now...
I also liked how the game convinces the player, that our characters have some kind of relationship with him... and all NPC during Heavensward seem to ship it D: