I will say when it comes to relics, Yoshi P has a good point about the fact there’s a lot of jobs now. I think there needs to be a balance on how much grind something like relics are because if they’re not planning to stop adding jobs anytime soon, it’s going to get more and more time consuming to max them out- especially for new players starting from square one. I hope they figure out a satisfying middle ground.
I think an easy way to solve this would be to have the first relic be a grind, and then have subsequent relics skip steps to make it easier. This way you still get the feeling of accomplishment, but can also make them easier on alt jobs.
Yeah Balance is the main thing they need now. Ease of use and tomestones should be a part of it, but *just* a 4-part tomestone grind was overly simplistic and redundant (We already have Tomestone weapons, tome grinds already existed) Just having multiple options for the next relic would be nice. Let me work for it, but don't make it an overly complicated grind. There can be a good balance.
7:25 One line that often crosses my mind when thinking about the story. "Yours is a long road, my friend, and it stretches on to places beyond imagining"
I think it's pretty cool. I'll be coming back from my hiatus from FFXIV anyway, so definitely looking forward to just anything new in general. I'm a simple dude, so I'm mainly looking forward to playing Pictomancer because I think it'd suit me since I'm an artist anyway. Gives me a reason as well as ideas of artwork to do.
Thank you for relaying the translation of all of this. I wouldn't have heard or read about this if one of the few FFXIV content creators that I watch hadn't covered it like this.
There's such a world of difference for me between removing points of friction or improving clarity/readability vs increasing difficulty. Adding AOE markers and tank buster indicators instead of forcing players to read and memorize ability names in the cast bar is not dumbing down content or making it easier; it's removing points of friction. Higher level content should be puzzles that need to be solved over time, but lower level content like story dungeons, players should be able to clear on their first run by sight-reading the mechanics and executing them competently.
I would love final to be more mechanically difficult and less puzzle-game-difficult. Neither the mechanics, nor your rotation are difficult themselves. Juggling your rotation while playing a game of memory is the difficulty of the game, which I learned to dislike in P12S.
I really like the way they did Shadowbringers relics. You could do it using Bozja like what feels intended but the majority of the steps had one or two alternate paths to take. My big problem with Endwalker relics was that it wasn't encouraging me to do things I wasn't already doing on my daily roulette grind. I still occasionally go back and grind out some of the older relics because it's something slightly different.
@@1Mrstephen They wanted to reskin bahamut with not putting any real effort by adding new animations or movement....flaps wings....little blast...big blast of which they are the same attack as phoenix and Reg bahamut just different colors....real effort there.
So yoshi P and Co are following the D&D style of story plotting - lots of plot hooks and we can decide what paths we take based on what gets us motivated the most
The comments about figuring it out as they go remind me of Breaking Bad. Vince Gilligan has openly talked about how much they figured out as they went, or how they planted seeds early that they had no idea what the payoff would actually be at the time. The notion that a long-running story has to be thought out entirely from the start for it to be good is a misconception.
It's a big risk of writing yourself into a corner when you do this (ie recent Star Wars) or not delivering a satisfying payoff. At the same time writing is really about discovering the story as you go and being able to go in unexpected directions. My hope is they just allow themselves to take those risks, and they already have shown to an extent they will.
"We connected the dots as we went along" is to me the most honest response to give when talking about any serialized story. Like, people love saying "wow Oda thought about that so much in advance" when it comes to One Piece but the most likely explanation is more that writers in these conditions look back and see what unexplored stuff they could bring back and expand on.
As a long time dungeon and dragons dm. I can appreciate having a vague outline for your story and then developing it as the players react to what's happening. Some of the greatest campaigns I've run haven't ended up where I thought they were going. But instead ended up better than I could have probably imagined because of player input. So I'm looking forward to seeing where they take the story going forward.
Shadowbringers Relics: Participate in the Bozja content and grind it out extensively. Endwalker Relics: Buy them out of a vending machine in the form of a naked man. There has to be something better in the middle of those extremes.
@@yanipheonu considering you have to do the entire manderville quest line, which involves a WHOLE lotta well.. nonsense, AND trials, culminating into a final trial, i think it was a fair trade off. ESPECIALLY since a lot of people don't find that content amusing. i, however, love every moment of it, except the tome grind... but yeah, i can see that if you don't enjoy the quest line, it would be hell to go through.
@@Blitzkrieger17 It was totally not a fair trade off. What about the people who had already done it? Imagine if 7.X relics were just vendor relics again with the prerequisite of doing the scholasticate quests? Sounds dumb? Because it is.
70% of the SHB relics were done outside of StQ. Pretty much everything except DR's timeworn artifacts. Granted, especially before the drop rate was increased from 1 to 3, that one step takes a very long time. In my experience each Resistance weapon had most of their parts be acquired passively and outside of StQ. Besides HW fate farm for RBY, timeworn artifacts, and raw emotions, as well as the one time step. Most of it was done outside, usually with blue if you got the chance. The RBY memories, green ones (also roulettes get them), loathsome memories with modern drop rates are quickest in CLL but CT Alliance raids are still very effective at giving them. I got a few weapons passively just from roulettes with the quest up. The one time step where you have to either do a bunch of Zadnor and or Omega/Eden is the most grindy part. Also somewhat BLU friendly, although these days I never see PFs for them. The HW and STB raids can also be skipped for fate grind, made easier with blue. The final step requires Zadnor to be fully complete anyways so all the grind in zones 1-3 both level you up and give you relic parts which to me alleviates the grind.
Im expecting DT to be a foundation laying expansion. Introduce new factions and vaguely far away threats, then going forward they can pull on what people like and forget what they dont
Yeah. Dawntrail is a transition period for FF14. Many games and media do this when changing drastically in story. Some of the most notable examples would be the first season of a new show, which tends to start slow. Or in Walking Dead after they leave the Jail which completely changed everything. RWBY is a good example with Season 4 after the fall of the school and everyone being scattered. And another example, which people aren't going to like is WoW with DF and TWW. It is very common in media for there to be a slow down period when things are about to change drastically.
Honestly, I’m worried about what will happen if player feedback determines too much of the narrative of this next arc. At least in the English-speaking side of the fanbase (which is the only part I’ve personally experienced) it seems like the most vocal fans only react positively to the heaviest and most high-stakes parts of the story, like Shadowbringers and Endwalker, and can’t stomach anything lighthearted and less serious. If the story becomes one universe-shattering crisis after another, as many people seem to want it to be, it’ll become flat and boring.
I mean they promised a lighthearted adventure for 6.X which had everyone respond positively, only for them to dump a world ending threat in our laps again. No one asked for that.
I personally Enjoyed Bozja. It also gave me my first riches, and leveled most of my jobs in there. The relic not only gave us a strong weapon, but it gave brought content in the past. And it was fun watching folks getting one shotted in that red chocobo fate in bozja. 😆 Good times
I'm so excited for cosmic exploration! I was late to the game with Ishgard Restoration, so I'm happy to be on the ground floor for one of these things :) And I'm also hype for a new relic grind! Don't get me wrong, I see the value in making it more accessible and passive, but I also know that I revere my SHB relics more than my EW ones BECAUSE of the grind I had to go through. I'll easily replace my EW relic glams, but my dancer's SHB relic is staying there forever (or maybe until DT relics who knows).
It absolutely makes sense that Yoshi-P was walking around to gauge player reactions! It's awesome getting to see the public interact with your creation for the first time, and is absolutely invaluable as a developer to see how actual people interact with things. Ofc they do these tests with their own game testers as well, but I bet getting to see how people of different cultures react must be especially fascinating, and they only get to see first time reactions like that once per expansion. It'd also be why you can always see Yoshi-P looking at live chat to gauge player reactions to announcements, trailers, etc during PLLs.
I still say that eureka was the best relic upgrade system. You could help other people do the content while you worked on getting your relic weapon gubbins.
There is a typo in the description. The source for the French interview is typed "Jeaux Online" but it's "Jeux Online". No "a". Amazing video though, thanks you Zepla !
I think rankings and leaderboards for the new Crafting stuff would be a bad idea. So many people are to this day are complaining about past rewards and titles not being available anymore. Don't get me wrong, i personally loved the Feast and the ishgardian restoration but the wider sentiment of players seems to be totally against it.
@14:30: Yoshi-P: "I'm concerned about players' well-being, I don't want them grinding until they fall over." Blizzard, during Shadowlands: "We want *ALL* of your /played possible! Grind your eyeballs out." Huge difference between the two games.
There is a huge difference yes, but there are people who prefer the grind. In most cases in WoW people make themselves grind when they don't have to. Ever since Legion, there is always a catch up system. People should know that by now, but yet people still act like they have to get everything done within a few weeks. It is just like right now with MoP Remix. And a more FF14 example, Island Sanctuary when people were hitting lv cap within a week. I did grind it a bit, but not that hard. I do believe catch up mechanics need to be added.... not to the existent of WoW, but there is a lot of things that need to be worked on with FF14. Let's face it, there are a lot of people who play multiple characters and don't want to go through the entire story again. And then new players have a long long slog through ARR to EW which they may not care about and I think pushes a lot of people away. If we hit lv 50 before we finish ARR, we should have the option to skip to the next expansion. If we hit 80 before we finish ShB we should be able to skip to EW. Or at the very very least, allow the skipping of Post Patch stuff.
Complete bullshit. Anything that isn't MSQ in this game is grindy as fuck. From leveling, to fate farming, to fishing, to looting raids. I don't get the impression that "grinding until they fall over" is NOT the goal.
@@Gloriankithsanus Those are *optional* grinds, though. If all you want to do is get reasonably good gear, all you gotta do is 4-5 expert roulettes per week and buy gear with tomestones, and then find some way of getting 500k or so gil (the experts give you 12k gil per run, btw) to buy the current weapon. There you go, you're geared up. Any optional content you _choose_ to do, well. That's optional, and done for fun. When you do content because you _choose_ to do it for fun, you don't care that it's grindy. Alliance Raids also give tokens to upgrade tomestone gear, but those are guaranteed and set quantities that you receive per run. The pieces that drop in Alliance Raids tends to be glamour gear, and again, that's considered "optional content". They can also be used as filler until you get the tomestone piece for that slot. In WoW, what do you do to get raid gear? Do raids. With the Personal No Loot system, you could kill 50 bosses and not see a single piece of gear you need.
Yeah watching cities like Mor Dhona or the Firmament housing area being built over time was pretty awesome, I wish the folks who joined later on got to see it happen!
Oooo, you chose the music that plays in the reconstructed area with all the races of the Omicron Tribe Quest... I love that piece, it has so much emotion behind it, and it's kinda a remix of the themes that played during 5.0.
The part about wanting the players to get rest was so great. An American company would prefer to go full "Scrooged" and say "If someone dies playing our game from lack of sleep, we'll get so much press. It would be awesome!"
Yea I also loved him saying "you can take breaks from the game and don't need to be subscribed all the time" until I realized that they hold my purse hostage if I own a house.
So... I remember Yoshi P saying EW post content, would change based on feedback. Particularly with a character that would be introduced in 7.1 that would be a new traveling partner, if players liked them. I do not remember any of these things happening, and a lot of people did not seem to like the 7.x plot. Another note: If they could not make giving players an island fun, why would something larger like a planet be a good thing?
I am really excited to see what all this cosmic exploration is going to be all about. I also agree that making every super casual and easy is not going to be good for the health of the game. Looking forward to the difficult content yet to come :)
I am looking forward to the new expansion, but with 0 expectations.. Do not sound, to much fun, to have a vacation expansion. Well just have to wait and see!
I had that exact scenario with Ishguard Restoration… I came in late and felt like I missed it, it seemed so cool haha I’m excited for this new system with the planets and whatever though 😊
Great vid! I would love that our Relic Weapons stay with us the whole Expansion! We get it through some type of questing for everyone at the start! It has an experience bar that fills up the more we use it in all content! Say every ten levels its power increases! Then by the end of the Expansion it is completed! This way our awesome Weapon makes the journey with us! Yes, I love the idea of crafting/gathering personal planets! This is sweet because I love the restoration events like Doman Enclave or Ishgard Restoration!
Saying "We were winging it the whole time," is probably the best thing that they could say after the first narrative arc is already over, which may satisfy doubters (edit: not daughters) that think that they may not be able to do it again.
@@VigorousRaven lol good catch! Autocorrect on mobile did that. Or wait...some of those letters aren't even remotely close to each other on the keyboard. Maybe it was just me making a mistake.
I feel like the best compromise for EVERYONE would be to keep the long, painful relic weapon grind for the first relic, so that it will still be seen as a badge of honour and accomplishment, but make all subsequent relic weapons in the same series easier to grind with just tomestones so it also does not punish players who do have multiple jobs. Best of both worlds.
Well the arr weapon is a arr grind. There needs to be a grind for the new content. Or across all expansions grind. Maybe do a 2nd weapon. Legendary epic relic grind. Where it starts off, "system message, you about to start content that is going to require long time to complete, make sure you set aside enough time." And then cannot accept any new quests.
Maybe marginally easier with each relic. I can't agree with "get 1 and then the next 13 are very easy" no, I'd vote for they get progressively easier, but the cutoff shouldn't be "get one and it's easy now"
I feel like the best thing is Eureka's weapon flow because it is fairly easy and doesn't require a bunch of random World Quests in other places. And then as you do more, you get like a discount on required materials. So if you need 10 of an item, they a feather from an Island Boss like Eureka had, You would need 10 for like the first 3, and then it goes down to 7. Then 5.... and finally 3 as you do more and more. I personally don't like the raids. I prefer the massive groups on a single world boss like creature like Eureka had. because even now the Bozja raids suffer from lack of interest. If there is going to be a raid, put it at the very end like Eureka.
@@sfnurh That would require the team balancing 14 levels of quest difficulty... And if the first one was sufficiently hard enough then it would make sense 'cause it would still mean that to have the privilege to unlock ANY of them you still had to work for it. And I'm not saying just toss over 650 poetics and that's it, more like, have the first relic be as difficult as the ARR grind (but different and maybe less annoying) then have subsequent relics be more similar to the EW pseudo- grind that doesn't take an entire patch cycle
Overall, all the info they have released about DT (not counting job changes cuz until I actually play them and try them out I'm withholding judgement) I am excited for. They really have listened to the player base. The EW relic process, I get it, they wanted to make it more manageable especially with the amount of jobs that the game has, but the fact that other than grinding out the Manderville questline if you had skipped it from the start, took out the fun and achievement of it.
Thank you for stepping back and sharing the big picture with us. This is the first video I’ve seen on Yishi-P’s other interviews. The plans you described are getting me really hyped for Dawntrail. There are places we can’t go to without dying? I play a Warrior, we’ll see about that. 😎
Coming from the mindset of someone who cant raid due to his work schedule (third shift) and forever anchored to the NA DC due to having a house, im really disappointed that we'll be having to wait 8 months after launch to get our hands on the exploration content. Though, based on eureka and bozja release times in their respective expansions, it falls in line with what I predicted. Though, I am looking forward to the 24 man raids since I played FF XI for many MANY years and am looking forward to taking on the shadow lord once again.
11:20 the best way to go about it would be as simple as making the grind easier after a while (after the next expansion comes out for example) If the idea is to keep people busy between patches, then no one would complain about them being easier to get once you get busy in a new expansion. And for those who DONT want to grind and still get the weapons for all jobs then just wait till it get easier later (obviously that would be only for glamour) but at least so far it hasn't been impossible for casuals to at least get ONE for their main job.
14:30 Oh god, i really hope we will never ever get another one time crafter/gatherer ranking or actually any kind of one time tournament like that. As much as i love crafting an gathering, but that Ishgardian Ranking was just pure suffering. And one thing made it even worse, was that many people just used bots for it.
I think what YoshiP means when he says they have to go through a period of narrative construction is more like ... Endwalker was the culmination of a massive plot arc, and DawnTrail will be setting up all the threads that future expansions will follow up on. I have a feeling that this expac is going to have a lot of mysteries that don't get solved, and I'm okay with that as long as there are plans for the future.
I'd like to see relic weapons be BiS right away. I'm cool with it being difficult to get and maybe be easier to unlock after the next tier of the relic gets introduced so you can get them fast on your alt jobs. The alt jobs will just be a step behind unless you put the time into it.
I hope with the job reworks they give crafters and gatherers individuality too.... Fisher is the only non-copy/paste class of them. I sure hope someone with influence would champion this to Yoshi-P.
It is interesting to hear that they finally connected all of the Ascian story "dots" in Shadowbringers, because of all of the expansions to me that was extremely great also due to lore, where we learned so much more about Ascians and they went from "fellas in the back doing bad stuff" to something completely different. Still "evil" in that sense but there appeared purpose behind it, reason. Made me respect them more. Still was going to stop them but at least I understood why. And I liked how they did relic weapons in Endwalker. To me the story itself is more important, things and choices you do during it to perhaps form the weapon. Finishing it with tomestones is fine. Brain-numbing grind, doing some instance over and over again just to get multiple copies of same drop, farming fates and what not - that kills any and all fun. Grinding. Sucks. There's no achievement in it, no accomplishment other then "I had more free time per day then you did, so I this grind took me less time then for you". And it wasn't "less work" or "shorter journey" in Endwalker, you literally had to do the WHOLE Manderville quest line to get to the point of getting that relic weapon. Sure, to a 10 year player this is shorter journey in the end, but to a recent player this is a whole long quest line with instances and all to accomplish. That's quite a journey.
One more thing about "ranking" systems that are based on accrued value like Ishgard restoration: it pretty much means that if you don't step in at the start and dedicate most of your time to it, you'll never make it, and for any one with a smudge of competitiveness in their bones, that is peak disincentivizing. It happened to me as a player back then - coming in late, lots to learn, will never win, so what's the point, and left. To this day I still avoid doing Firmament content as a result; it just grossed me out forever. I hope Cosmic Exploration, if it has a ranking, is not based on total accrued contribution over time, but more like the FATEs system where if you have X impact you have Gold, and Y impact gives Silver, etc.
I wouldnt mind if they just made the FIRST relic need the extra steps that makes it more of an accomplishment like the books of the SHB relics, but the giant grind for all relics afterwards was such a pain i gave up halfway with lots of them, so i wouldnt mind subsequent relics just needing tomestones, its more of a middle ground also relic maps are good because they also offer other avenues of making gil content and collectibles like eureka and bozja
I'm a sucker for sequel hooks, as my last few years of play have evidenced. Whatever CBU3 cooks up might just keep me excited either way. I have that kind of trust in them.
One thing that I hope is done better now that we are in a new beginning, is creating an actual world. The content was fun in FFXIV but I never felt a reason to be out in the world itself, and quests were often just go into a circle and kill a few mobs, move on. I want to explore more.
The Bozja system was probably the most balanced, it was entangled in the expansion end content, it was a grind but not as absurd as the earlier expansions and it took up the idea of 1st relic hard, later relics easier. I think they need to continue on that path, you can have 15 quests with grinds to get your first relic but 10 of those quests are "first time only" and condense down to 5 quests (or whatever) for the remaining relics.
I'm kinda hyped for cosmic Restauration. Since Ishgard I'm burning hot for rebuilding Garlemald but having your own planet? I'm pretty unsure about that one. Island Sanctuary did sound way cooler than it actually was so I'm skeptical about CR. But I'm still looking forward to it, I'm curious what they're planning with it. And I really hope we get another Bozja area after MSQ. I really liked the setting. And about the relics... I'm shuffling 4 to 5 classes thru MSQ simultaneously so yes, I appreciate easy relic grinds 🙈 but I wouldn't mind grinding my pretty 🍑 off for at least one relic to show off. I hope they'll find a nice middle ground on that topic
I would like to see mix of ream reborn and endwalker, make it so the first weapon of each patch takes some time and effort to get, but after that you can use tombstones for the rest.
About Cosmic Exploration: there's a difference between addictive gameplay and toxically competitive gameplay. The problem with Ishgardian Restoration is that you know there is someone out there who is going to spend nearly every waking moment on it, so someone who wants to compete feels that they have to go at least to that level of commitment to compete.
Yoshi P is the man, "I tried to read their emotions." Honorable mention to Ishikawa and Soken also! This is why FFXIV is the best MMORPG! (And I've been playing my fair share since my EQ days)
With regard to the relics I think another reason it feels like cutting corners is that for several expansions in a row, the relic content came later and later, and those of us who like doing relic content noticed. In Heavensward, there was a relic weapon quest available from the beginning, just like in ARR. In Stormblood, we didn't get Eureka until patch 4.25, which would've been ~7 months after release. Bozja came out in patch 5.35, meaning we went half the expansion without relics. Continue that pattern into Endwalker and we might have gotten an Eureka/Bozja equivalent at 6.45, at which point the expansion was nearly over and what's the point of including relics at all? So, from our perspective, no relic zone but the new relic quest comes out in 6.25 means "obviously" they cut out the detailed questline/grind zone element so they could release it faster. And that still feels too late to me. I really want relics to be available from the beginning again. Edit: Also, I've said this ever since Stormblood, my dream "relic zone" is Eureka again but with MANUAL LEVEL SYNCING so it's easy to do the level grind with a consistent friend group without worrying about anyone "getting ahead" separately.
I do wonder if the END Relic is actually a case of cut content. Like they wanted something more involved, but they just didn't have the resources. So they tied in the Hildebrand quests they were already making, even threw in the Asura trial, and added a tomestone vendor NPC (who doesn't even have a desk...) because that was the easiest thing to implement.
If you watch the new dawntrail trailer that just came out, and then go back and watch the endwalker version of the same trailer, it really is just... way less exciting. The graphic change is massive in the trailers too, but really just the sense of adventure and mystery is so much higher with dawntrail. Also the characters, jesus. Having so many new prominent characters featured in the trailer instead of just recurring ones feels so much more interesting to me.
Wild that they talk about increasing the challenge of 8 man raids and then show a preview that includes an 8 second tutorial of a left arena cleave followed by a right arena cleave, that goes into cardinal/intercardinal dodge, and top it off with a tankbuster followed by party stack. So exciting!
I hope that in the future, when 14 finally dies - Square will look at the success and decide to make a another FF MMO. I would be a happy 60 year old man if I was playing FFXXXV - Online
Wait.. with the futuristic city thing going on.. talk of cultivating new planets.. are we going to be terraforming? like through/with some ancient advanced civilization? being like stewards of new earths through the galaxy post endwalker after Meteon dispeled dynamis back out to the universe and since she is now "singing a new song" about hope and life? maybe she guides us to them/finds them? maybe we somehow start with the 13th? 🤔
i left when you had 100k subs and now im back. Love that eyeliner.
I will say when it comes to relics, Yoshi P has a good point about the fact there’s a lot of jobs now. I think there needs to be a balance on how much grind something like relics are because if they’re not planning to stop adding jobs anytime soon, it’s going to get more and more time consuming to max them out- especially for new players starting from square one. I hope they figure out a satisfying middle ground.
I think an easy way to solve this would be to have the first relic be a grind, and then have subsequent relics skip steps to make it easier. This way you still get the feeling of accomplishment, but can also make them easier on alt jobs.
@@OldManInternet This is the way. Thats how it kinda was for the Bozja relics.
Yeah Balance is the main thing they need now. Ease of use and tomestones should be a part of it, but *just* a 4-part tomestone grind was overly simplistic and redundant (We already have Tomestone weapons, tome grinds already existed)
Just having multiple options for the next relic would be nice. Let me work for it, but don't make it an overly complicated grind. There can be a good balance.
Well I am in big big trouble if I ever meet this streamer lol expression studying
First relic a grind, then the rest being extremely easy to obtain.
7:25 One line that often crosses my mind when thinking about the story. "Yours is a long road, my friend, and it stretches on to places beyond imagining"
Imagine what goes through yoshiP's head seeing zepla having fun... In gpose.
I'm wondering what he was thinking about Cider Spider spending his time going after hunt marks and chasing achievements, too. XD
I definitely developed some form of psychosis going for Saint of the Firmament.
Let's go for Saint of the Universe.
Someone please make a meme of Yoshi looking down at you in an examining way
I think it's pretty cool. I'll be coming back from my hiatus from FFXIV anyway, so definitely looking forward to just anything new in general. I'm a simple dude, so I'm mainly looking forward to playing Pictomancer because I think it'd suit me since I'm an artist anyway. Gives me a reason as well as ideas of artwork to do.
Thank you for relaying the translation of all of this. I wouldn't have heard or read about this if one of the few FFXIV content creators that I watch hadn't covered it like this.
Endwalker started well but everything after the beginning was uneventful.
There's such a world of difference for me between removing points of friction or improving clarity/readability vs increasing difficulty. Adding AOE markers and tank buster indicators instead of forcing players to read and memorize ability names in the cast bar is not dumbing down content or making it easier; it's removing points of friction. Higher level content should be puzzles that need to be solved over time, but lower level content like story dungeons, players should be able to clear on their first run by sight-reading the mechanics and executing them competently.
I would love final to be more mechanically difficult and less puzzle-game-difficult. Neither the mechanics, nor your rotation are difficult themselves.
Juggling your rotation while playing a game of memory is the difficulty of the game, which I learned to dislike in P12S.
I really like the way they did Shadowbringers relics. You could do it using Bozja like what feels intended but the majority of the steps had one or two alternate paths to take. My big problem with Endwalker relics was that it wasn't encouraging me to do things I wasn't already doing on my daily roulette grind. I still occasionally go back and grind out some of the older relics because it's something slightly different.
this guy took every idea he and his friends came up with during lunch in gradeschool and ran with it. Love it.
lol I guess his friends didn’t want to put Shiva, Levithan and Ramuh in the Summoner kit….
@@1Mrstephen They wanted to reskin bahamut with not putting any real effort by adding new animations or movement....flaps wings....little blast...big blast of which they are the same attack as phoenix and Reg bahamut just different colors....real effort there.
So yoshi P and Co are following the D&D style of story plotting - lots of plot hooks and we can decide what paths we take based on what gets us motivated the most
The comments about figuring it out as they go remind me of Breaking Bad. Vince Gilligan has openly talked about how much they figured out as they went, or how they planted seeds early that they had no idea what the payoff would actually be at the time. The notion that a long-running story has to be thought out entirely from the start for it to be good is a misconception.
One piece is a great example of this
It's a big risk of writing yourself into a corner when you do this (ie recent Star Wars) or not delivering a satisfying payoff.
At the same time writing is really about discovering the story as you go and being able to go in unexpected directions. My hope is they just allow themselves to take those risks, and they already have shown to an extent they will.
@@Zora72954 Let's wait for it to be finished before we say that
@Zephhi I can say it for what's happened so far can't I?
Wait, is this a "Chemist job confirmed" speculation post!?
"We connected the dots as we went along" is to me the most honest response to give when talking about any serialized story. Like, people love saying "wow Oda thought about that so much in advance" when it comes to One Piece but the most likely explanation is more that writers in these conditions look back and see what unexplored stuff they could bring back and expand on.
When stuff is REALLY planned out from the beggining, you can say. Like in Fullmetal Alchemist and Attack on Titan
Cant wait for Dawntrail! Love all the videos Zep! Appreciate your hard work!
As a long time dungeon and dragons dm. I can appreciate having a vague outline for your story and then developing it as the players react to what's happening. Some of the greatest campaigns I've run haven't ended up where I thought they were going. But instead ended up better than I could have probably imagined because of player input. So I'm looking forward to seeing where they take the story going forward.
As a forever DM. I concur.
I read “narrative construction” as “building a narrative foundation.”
wow you might have a really bad case of dyslexia then
With my own planet I can live out my dream of being a Mormon.
Dammit, I though I was about to be clever making this joke.
I'm LDS and this made me chuckle. Have an upvote.
Indeed fellow Ladder Day Saint😂@bbarrett726
Joseph Smith approved! Dum dum dum dum dumb!
Flat eathers not eating good at all tho
So we are Mormons now?
Imagine you met an alien and he said he was from the Kolob.
this is my first time hearing about the planet cultivation, im definitely interested
Shadowbringers Relics: Participate in the Bozja content and grind it out extensively.
Endwalker Relics: Buy them out of a vending machine in the form of a naked man.
There has to be something better in the middle of those extremes.
Grind it out of a naked man?
Yeah it was hard to shake the feeling the Endwalker Relic weapon was just a Vendor Weapon with extra steps.
@@yanipheonu considering you have to do the entire manderville quest line, which involves a WHOLE lotta well.. nonsense, AND trials, culminating into a final trial, i think it was a fair trade off. ESPECIALLY since a lot of people don't find that content amusing. i, however, love every moment of it, except the tome grind... but yeah, i can see that if you don't enjoy the quest line, it would be hell to go through.
@@Blitzkrieger17 It was totally not a fair trade off. What about the people who had already done it? Imagine if 7.X relics were just vendor relics again with the prerequisite of doing the scholasticate quests? Sounds dumb? Because it is.
70% of the SHB relics were done outside of StQ. Pretty much everything except DR's timeworn artifacts. Granted, especially before the drop rate was increased from 1 to 3, that one step takes a very long time. In my experience each Resistance weapon had most of their parts be acquired passively and outside of StQ. Besides HW fate farm for RBY, timeworn artifacts, and raw emotions, as well as the one time step. Most of it was done outside, usually with blue if you got the chance. The RBY memories, green ones (also roulettes get them), loathsome memories with modern drop rates are quickest in CLL but CT Alliance raids are still very effective at giving them. I got a few weapons passively just from roulettes with the quest up. The one time step where you have to either do a bunch of Zadnor and or Omega/Eden is the most grindy part. Also somewhat BLU friendly, although these days I never see PFs for them. The HW and STB raids can also be skipped for fate grind, made easier with blue. The final step requires Zadnor to be fully complete anyways so all the grind in zones 1-3 both level you up and give you relic parts which to me alleviates the grind.
We need more faces/slider options ect for all races ect plz?!!?
Im expecting DT to be a foundation laying expansion. Introduce new factions and vaguely far away threats, then going forward they can pull on what people like and forget what they dont
Yeah. Dawntrail is a transition period for FF14. Many games and media do this when changing drastically in story. Some of the most notable examples would be the first season of a new show, which tends to start slow. Or in Walking Dead after they leave the Jail which completely changed everything. RWBY is a good example with Season 4 after the fall of the school and everyone being scattered. And another example, which people aren't going to like is WoW with DF and TWW. It is very common in media for there to be a slow down period when things are about to change drastically.
I’m so excited for Sector 9 and and the new raid series in that arena area. Also, Rocking those wings
Every relic weapon should be an upgrade of the previous relic
Honestly, I’m worried about what will happen if player feedback determines too much of the narrative of this next arc. At least in the English-speaking side of the fanbase (which is the only part I’ve personally experienced) it seems like the most vocal fans only react positively to the heaviest and most high-stakes parts of the story, like Shadowbringers and Endwalker, and can’t stomach anything lighthearted and less serious. If the story becomes one universe-shattering crisis after another, as many people seem to want it to be, it’ll become flat and boring.
In other words, "The Shonen Problem" with escalation and powerscaling
That's what happens when folks grow up having seen Dragon Ball Z before the original Dragon Ball.
I mean they promised a lighthearted adventure for 6.X which had everyone respond positively, only for them to dump a world ending threat in our laps again. No one asked for that.
I personally Enjoyed Bozja. It also gave me my first riches, and leveled most of my jobs in there. The relic not only gave us a strong weapon, but it gave brought content in the past. And it was fun watching folks getting one shotted in that red chocobo fate in bozja. 😆 Good times
I'm so excited for cosmic exploration! I was late to the game with Ishgard Restoration, so I'm happy to be on the ground floor for one of these things :) And I'm also hype for a new relic grind! Don't get me wrong, I see the value in making it more accessible and passive, but I also know that I revere my SHB relics more than my EW ones BECAUSE of the grind I had to go through. I'll easily replace my EW relic glams, but my dancer's SHB relic is staying there forever (or maybe until DT relics who knows).
So the way to make a good villain is leave them vague, watch fan theory videos, pick your favorite and write it in the game.
It absolutely makes sense that Yoshi-P was walking around to gauge player reactions! It's awesome getting to see the public interact with your creation for the first time, and is absolutely invaluable as a developer to see how actual people interact with things. Ofc they do these tests with their own game testers as well, but I bet getting to see how people of different cultures react must be especially fascinating, and they only get to see first time reactions like that once per expansion.
It'd also be why you can always see Yoshi-P looking at live chat to gauge player reactions to announcements, trailers, etc during PLLs.
Thank You So Much For The Update It's Mich Appreciated!
I still say that eureka was the best relic upgrade system. You could help other people do the content while you worked on getting your relic weapon gubbins.
There is a typo in the description. The source for the French interview is typed "Jeaux Online" but it's "Jeux Online". No "a". Amazing video though, thanks you Zepla !
This video made me a lot more exciting for dawntrail, the description of the field operations on the 7.0 site looks really interesting.
I think rankings and leaderboards for the new Crafting stuff would be a bad idea. So many people are to this day are complaining about past rewards and titles not being available anymore. Don't get me wrong, i personally loved the Feast and the ishgardian restoration but the wider sentiment of players seems to be totally against it.
THe new field ops also needs to have it to where anyone at any level can play together. The level difference from Eureka is dumb.
@14:30:
Yoshi-P: "I'm concerned about players' well-being, I don't want them grinding until they fall over."
Blizzard, during Shadowlands: "We want *ALL* of your /played possible! Grind your eyeballs out."
Huge difference between the two games.
There is a huge difference yes, but there are people who prefer the grind. In most cases in WoW people make themselves grind when they don't have to. Ever since Legion, there is always a catch up system. People should know that by now, but yet people still act like they have to get everything done within a few weeks. It is just like right now with MoP Remix. And a more FF14 example, Island Sanctuary when people were hitting lv cap within a week. I did grind it a bit, but not that hard. I do believe catch up mechanics need to be added.... not to the existent of WoW, but there is a lot of things that need to be worked on with FF14. Let's face it, there are a lot of people who play multiple characters and don't want to go through the entire story again. And then new players have a long long slog through ARR to EW which they may not care about and I think pushes a lot of people away. If we hit lv 50 before we finish ARR, we should have the option to skip to the next expansion. If we hit 80 before we finish ShB we should be able to skip to EW. Or at the very very least, allow the skipping of Post Patch stuff.
Complete bullshit. Anything that isn't MSQ in this game is grindy as fuck. From leveling, to fate farming, to fishing, to looting raids. I don't get the impression that "grinding until they fall over" is NOT the goal.
@@Gloriankithsanus Those are *optional* grinds, though. If all you want to do is get reasonably good gear, all you gotta do is 4-5 expert roulettes per week and buy gear with tomestones, and then find some way of getting 500k or so gil (the experts give you 12k gil per run, btw) to buy the current weapon. There you go, you're geared up. Any optional content you _choose_ to do, well. That's optional, and done for fun. When you do content because you _choose_ to do it for fun, you don't care that it's grindy.
Alliance Raids also give tokens to upgrade tomestone gear, but those are guaranteed and set quantities that you receive per run. The pieces that drop in Alliance Raids tends to be glamour gear, and again, that's considered "optional content". They can also be used as filler until you get the tomestone piece for that slot.
In WoW, what do you do to get raid gear? Do raids. With the Personal No Loot system, you could kill 50 bosses and not see a single piece of gear you need.
Yeah watching cities like Mor Dhona or the Firmament housing area being built over time was pretty awesome, I wish the folks who joined later on got to see it happen!
Oooo, you chose the music that plays in the reconstructed area with all the races of the Omicron Tribe Quest... I love that piece, it has so much emotion behind it, and it's kinda a remix of the themes that played during 5.0.
The part about wanting the players to get rest was so great. An American company would prefer to go full "Scrooged" and say "If someone dies playing our game from lack of sleep, we'll get so much press. It would be awesome!"
Yea I also loved him saying "you can take breaks from the game and don't need to be subscribed all the time" until I realized that they hold my purse hostage if I own a house.
So... I remember Yoshi P saying EW post content, would change based on feedback. Particularly with a character that would be introduced in 7.1 that would be a new traveling partner, if players liked them. I do not remember any of these things happening, and a lot of people did not seem to like the 7.x plot.
Another note: If they could not make giving players an island fun, why would something larger like a planet be a good thing?
I am really excited to see what all this cosmic exploration is going to be all about.
I also agree that making every super casual and easy is not going to be good for the health of the game.
Looking forward to the difficult content yet to come :)
We could get a whole planet, and I still wouldn't have enough space to hold all my inventory
Yoshi P for the way the media tour was handled and how much he loves doing a good job, he really is the goat
Wow, your own planet... to walk around a barren landscape and click on gathering points to watch a loading bar.
Just like island sactuary.
I am looking forward to the new expansion, but with 0 expectations.. Do not sound, to much fun, to have a vacation expansion.
Well just have to wait and see!
A realm reborn ... REBORN, from what I've heard anyway
I had that exact scenario with Ishguard Restoration… I came in late and felt like I missed it, it seemed so cool haha
I’m excited for this new system with the planets and whatever though 😊
I would simply die and wilt and turn into a ghost in his presence.
Great vid! I would love that our Relic Weapons stay with us the whole Expansion! We get it through some type of questing for everyone at the start! It has an experience bar that fills up the more we use it in all content! Say every ten levels its power increases! Then by the end of the Expansion it is completed! This way our awesome Weapon makes the journey with us! Yes, I love the idea of crafting/gathering personal planets! This is sweet because I love the restoration events like Doman Enclave or Ishgard Restoration!
Saying "We were winging it the whole time," is probably the best thing that they could say after the first narrative arc is already over, which may satisfy doubters (edit: not daughters) that think that they may not be able to do it again.
Daughters? Do you mean doubters?
@@VigorousRaven lol good catch! Autocorrect on mobile did that. Or wait...some of those letters aren't even remotely close to each other on the keyboard. Maybe it was just me making a mistake.
May be satisfactory for daughters as well.
final fantasy is literally a series whose founding principle was winging it... "welp, this is our last shot..." BOOM! history is made!
FF16 story was so good I hope yoshi p doing that rubbed off onto ffxiv because it was so fluid
I feel like the best compromise for EVERYONE would be to keep the long, painful relic weapon grind for the first relic, so that it will still be seen as a badge of honour and accomplishment, but make all subsequent relic weapons in the same series easier to grind with just tomestones so it also does not punish players who do have multiple jobs. Best of both worlds.
Well the arr weapon is a arr grind. There needs to be a grind for the new content. Or across all expansions grind. Maybe do a 2nd weapon. Legendary epic relic grind. Where it starts off, "system message, you about to start content that is going to require long time to complete, make sure you set aside enough time." And then cannot accept any new quests.
@@michaelstiller2282 I mean the first relic weapon from each expansion, not just your first one ever. Sorry for the confusion.
Maybe marginally easier with each relic. I can't agree with "get 1 and then the next 13 are very easy" no, I'd vote for they get progressively easier, but the cutoff shouldn't be "get one and it's easy now"
I feel like the best thing is Eureka's weapon flow because it is fairly easy and doesn't require a bunch of random World Quests in other places. And then as you do more, you get like a discount on required materials. So if you need 10 of an item, they a feather from an Island Boss like Eureka had, You would need 10 for like the first 3, and then it goes down to 7. Then 5.... and finally 3 as you do more and more. I personally don't like the raids. I prefer the massive groups on a single world boss like creature like Eureka had. because even now the Bozja raids suffer from lack of interest. If there is going to be a raid, put it at the very end like Eureka.
@@sfnurh That would require the team balancing 14 levels of quest difficulty... And if the first one was sufficiently hard enough then it would make sense 'cause it would still mean that to have the privilege to unlock ANY of them you still had to work for it. And I'm not saying just toss over 650 poetics and that's it, more like, have the first relic be as difficult as the ARR grind (but different and maybe less annoying) then have subsequent relics be more similar to the EW pseudo- grind that doesn't take an entire patch cycle
I just want my old astro back
Can we start a Viera hat protest?
Let that go already!
@@TGMShoNuff I will as soon as I can wear hats
@@Brainplastics sacrifice you have to make
yes,please!
I am still salty about not getting Ramuh, Shiva and Leviathan as Summoner as a summon after Phoenix Stance
Overall, all the info they have released about DT (not counting job changes cuz until I actually play them and try them out I'm withholding judgement) I am excited for. They really have listened to the player base.
The EW relic process, I get it, they wanted to make it more manageable especially with the amount of jobs that the game has, but the fact that other than grinding out the Manderville questline if you had skipped it from the start, took out the fun and achievement of it.
Can't wait for the 6 movies to come out. Going to make the LOTR movies look like a mini-series.
Thank you for stepping back and sharing the big picture with us. This is the first video I’ve seen on Yishi-P’s other interviews. The plans you described are getting me really hyped for Dawntrail. There are places we can’t go to without dying? I play a Warrior, we’ll see about that. 😎
I was part of the ishgard restoration and yes, we went fu**ing crazy, in the first 2 weeks i didn´t get much sleep.
I want to know more about Azem. Hopefully, I kinda want to find more lore about that person in DT. As your WOL is similar or part of that entity 😊
Azem should be the final final boss of the entire game in like 12.5
i think the chances are good we will learn more about Azem in DT especially bc our azem crystal has the symbol of the sun which would fit Dawntrail
"Unlike GoT, Endwalker ended well" ... ooo, what burn haha. She just dumped a ... whatever is the black mage's current highest level nuke is.
For a second I thought that the thumbnail was a Mormon Ad
Coming from the mindset of someone who cant raid due to his work schedule (third shift) and forever anchored to the NA DC due to having a house, im really disappointed that we'll be having to wait 8 months after launch to get our hands on the exploration content. Though, based on eureka and bozja release times in their respective expansions, it falls in line with what I predicted. Though, I am looking forward to the 24 man raids since I played FF XI for many MANY years and am looking forward to taking on the shadow lord once again.
Yoshi P has unleashed a monster and I think he knows it at this point xD
I really hope cosmic exploration will lead to new area for resident housing like CMON LIVING IN A MOOON LIKE PLANET?!?!!?
11:20 the best way to go about it would be as simple as making the grind easier after a while (after the next expansion comes out for example)
If the idea is to keep people busy between patches, then no one would complain about them being easier to get once you get busy in a new expansion.
And for those who DONT want to grind and still get the weapons for all jobs then just wait till it get easier later (obviously that would be only for glamour) but at least so far it hasn't been impossible for casuals to at least get ONE for their main job.
14:30 Oh god, i really hope we will never ever get another one time crafter/gatherer ranking or actually any kind of one time tournament like that. As much as i love crafting an gathering, but that Ishgardian Ranking was just pure suffering. And one thing made it even worse, was that many people just used bots for it.
I think what YoshiP means when he says they have to go through a period of narrative construction is more like ... Endwalker was the culmination of a massive plot arc, and DawnTrail will be setting up all the threads that future expansions will follow up on. I have a feeling that this expac is going to have a lot of mysteries that don't get solved, and I'm okay with that as long as there are plans for the future.
I'd like to see relic weapons be BiS right away. I'm cool with it being difficult to get and maybe be easier to unlock after the next tier of the relic gets introduced so you can get them fast on your alt jobs. The alt jobs will just be a step behind unless you put the time into it.
I hope with the job reworks they give crafters and gatherers individuality too.... Fisher is the only non-copy/paste class of them. I sure hope someone with influence would champion this to Yoshi-P.
Putting the "expert" back into expert roulette has me excited. The last time expert roulette was actually challenging was HW.
they say the same thing every expansion lol
love this kind of video
They tell you they don't know, but they know... I'm sure
It is interesting to hear that they finally connected all of the Ascian story "dots" in Shadowbringers, because of all of the expansions to me that was extremely great also due to lore, where we learned so much more about Ascians and they went from "fellas in the back doing bad stuff" to something completely different. Still "evil" in that sense but there appeared purpose behind it, reason. Made me respect them more. Still was going to stop them but at least I understood why.
And I liked how they did relic weapons in Endwalker. To me the story itself is more important, things and choices you do during it to perhaps form the weapon. Finishing it with tomestones is fine. Brain-numbing grind, doing some instance over and over again just to get multiple copies of same drop, farming fates and what not - that kills any and all fun. Grinding. Sucks. There's no achievement in it, no accomplishment other then "I had more free time per day then you did, so I this grind took me less time then for you". And it wasn't "less work" or "shorter journey" in Endwalker, you literally had to do the WHOLE Manderville quest line to get to the point of getting that relic weapon. Sure, to a 10 year player this is shorter journey in the end, but to a recent player this is a whole long quest line with instances and all to accomplish. That's quite a journey.
One more thing about "ranking" systems that are based on accrued value like Ishgard restoration: it pretty much means that if you don't step in at the start and dedicate most of your time to it, you'll never make it, and for any one with a smudge of competitiveness in their bones, that is peak disincentivizing. It happened to me as a player back then - coming in late, lots to learn, will never win, so what's the point, and left. To this day I still avoid doing Firmament content as a result; it just grossed me out forever. I hope Cosmic Exploration, if it has a ranking, is not based on total accrued contribution over time, but more like the FATEs system where if you have X impact you have Gold, and Y impact gives Silver, etc.
I wouldnt mind if they just made the FIRST relic need the extra steps that makes it more of an accomplishment like the books of the SHB relics, but the giant grind for all relics afterwards was such a pain i gave up halfway with lots of them, so i wouldnt mind subsequent relics just needing tomestones, its more of a middle ground also relic maps are good because they also offer other avenues of making gil content and collectibles like eureka and bozja
I'm a sucker for sequel hooks, as my last few years of play have evidenced. Whatever CBU3 cooks up might just keep me excited either way. I have that kind of trust in them.
One thing that I hope is done better now that we are in a new beginning, is creating an actual world. The content was fun in FFXIV but I never felt a reason to be out in the world itself, and quests were often just go into a circle and kill a few mobs, move on. I want to explore more.
"We want the weapon grind back"
"We don't want that crazy grind back"
Make up your minds people!
they are different people
1:44 man became fun police and said "fun is mandatory" 💀
The Bozja system was probably the most balanced, it was entangled in the expansion end content, it was a grind but not as absurd as the earlier expansions and it took up the idea of 1st relic hard, later relics easier. I think they need to continue on that path, you can have 15 quests with grinds to get your first relic but 10 of those quests are "first time only" and condense down to 5 quests (or whatever) for the remaining relics.
I'm kinda hyped for cosmic Restauration. Since Ishgard I'm burning hot for rebuilding Garlemald but having your own planet? I'm pretty unsure about that one. Island Sanctuary did sound way cooler than it actually was so I'm skeptical about CR. But I'm still looking forward to it, I'm curious what they're planning with it.
And I really hope we get another Bozja area after MSQ. I really liked the setting.
And about the relics... I'm shuffling 4 to 5 classes thru MSQ simultaneously so yes, I appreciate easy relic grinds 🙈 but I wouldn't mind grinding my pretty 🍑 off for at least one relic to show off. I hope they'll find a nice middle ground on that topic
4:06 How could someone think the scions are cringe 😭
I would like to see mix of ream reborn and endwalker, make it so the first weapon of each patch takes some time and effort to get, but after that you can use tombstones for the rest.
About Cosmic Exploration: there's a difference between addictive gameplay and toxically competitive gameplay.
The problem with Ishgardian Restoration is that you know there is someone out there who is going to spend nearly every waking moment on it, so someone who wants to compete feels that they have to go at least to that level of commitment to compete.
Your thumbnail now has me wanting giantess Zepla content 😢
Yoshi P is the man, "I tried to read their emotions." Honorable mention to Ishikawa and Soken also!
This is why FFXIV is the best MMORPG! (And I've been playing my fair share since my EQ days)
With regard to the relics I think another reason it feels like cutting corners is that for several expansions in a row, the relic content came later and later, and those of us who like doing relic content noticed. In Heavensward, there was a relic weapon quest available from the beginning, just like in ARR. In Stormblood, we didn't get Eureka until patch 4.25, which would've been ~7 months after release. Bozja came out in patch 5.35, meaning we went half the expansion without relics. Continue that pattern into Endwalker and we might have gotten an Eureka/Bozja equivalent at 6.45, at which point the expansion was nearly over and what's the point of including relics at all? So, from our perspective, no relic zone but the new relic quest comes out in 6.25 means "obviously" they cut out the detailed questline/grind zone element so they could release it faster. And that still feels too late to me. I really want relics to be available from the beginning again.
Edit: Also, I've said this ever since Stormblood, my dream "relic zone" is Eureka again but with MANUAL LEVEL SYNCING so it's easy to do the level grind with a consistent friend group without worrying about anyone "getting ahead" separately.
I do wonder if the END Relic is actually a case of cut content. Like they wanted something more involved, but they just didn't have the resources. So they tied in the Hildebrand quests they were already making, even threw in the Asura trial, and added a tomestone vendor NPC (who doesn't even have a desk...) because that was the easiest thing to implement.
This team is the best it's insane. We've been blessed with such cool people to make the best MMO around.
I am just glad (and hope) the darkness and despair since heavensward its over and we are going in a new adventure.
If you watch the new dawntrail trailer that just came out, and then go back and watch the endwalker version of the same trailer, it really is just... way less exciting. The graphic change is massive in the trailers too, but really just the sense of adventure and mystery is so much higher with dawntrail. Also the characters, jesus. Having so many new prominent characters featured in the trailer instead of just recurring ones feels so much more interesting to me.
Wild that they talk about increasing the challenge of 8 man raids and then show a preview that includes an 8 second tutorial of a left arena cleave followed by a right arena cleave, that goes into cardinal/intercardinal dodge, and top it off with a tankbuster followed by party stack. So exciting!
I hope that in the future, when 14 finally dies - Square will look at the success and decide to make a another FF MMO. I would be a happy 60 year old man if I was playing FFXXXV - Online
I’m just disappointed that alisae has once again tipped over board and we’ll have to find her.. 😂😂😂
Hell yeah...Our lives FOR ISHGARD progress! Long live Sir Aymeric!
Based on my experience doing a ton of 24 man raids just make every encounter involve basic math and people will be challenged.
Wait.. with the futuristic city thing going on.. talk of cultivating new planets.. are we going to be terraforming? like through/with some ancient advanced civilization? being like stewards of new earths through the galaxy post endwalker after Meteon dispeled dynamis back out to the universe and since she is now "singing a new song" about hope and life? maybe she guides us to them/finds them? maybe we somehow start with the 13th? 🤔
Yoshi P confirmed Mormon
I do expert dungeoms as a warm up for lvl 90 dungeons